1 hour ago, PeterJ said:

FL, I read the article over lunch today. I note that while the writer dwelt extensively on how being in an ENG relationship led to conflict as marriage approached and how that conflict was resolved, she conspicuously made no reference as to whether in the years following the marriage and faithful honeymoon they have continued to have an open relationship.

I think she alludes to the relationship remaining open in the penultimate paragraph. 

Kik is pretty common, though it's a very shitty protocol.   When we first got started and valued anonymity it was our go to, but over time we stopped caring and just text or whatsapp.   

2 hours ago, Fundamental Law said:

This piece in the NYT “Modern Love” section is an interesting inversion on marriage saving an open relationship. 
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/style/modern-love-marriage-starts-to-unravel-on-honeymoon.html?unlocked_article_code=1.p04.w8As.MeS0bbK8Fgc0&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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FL, I read the article over lunch today. I note that while the writer dwelt extensively on how being in an ENG relationship led to conflict as marriage approached and how that conflict was resolved, she conspicuously made no reference as to whether in the years following the marriage and faithful honeymoon they have continued to have an open relationship. The fact that this salient aspect was not addressed makes me wonder if their relationship has now become a closed one.
 

I confess, “ Modern Love“ is one of my guilty pleasures in life.🙄😉 As is the case here, some of these brief first-person essays are not just amusing, but could well prove helpful to many readers.
 

As none of these essays are published anonymously, I often find myself slack-jawed at what some correspondents are apparently eager to reveal about themselves, to say nothing about their partners and other love/sex partners. The narcissism is stunning. I’m also sometimes appalled at how a writer will carve up a ex while that person has no means of defense. Those essays seem pretty shitty to me and the papers publication of them borders on the unseemly.

We are all familiar with the dogma “Swinging will not repair a failing relationship, it will only accelerate the failure.” 
 

This piece in the NYT “Modern Love” section is an interesting inversion on marriage saving an open relationship. 
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/style/modern-love-marriage-starts-to-unravel-on-honeymoon.html?unlocked_article_code=1.p04.w8As.MeS0bbK8Fgc0&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

We know several couples who met in/through swinging after divorce or being widowed who now have strong and fulfilling marriages. 

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