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We Need to Talk - Swinging & Friendship

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JustAskJulie

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Very shortly after arriving at the social on Saturday, the male half of one of a couple that we consider friends and think extremely highly of, pulled me aside "We need to talk". I knew he was right and I knew what we needed to talk about. You see, at the previous party he and I were dancing and it came up that I am very attracted to him. He was surprised saying that he always thought I was more into girls! "WTF! Seriously! No, I like cock. Girls are cool, but no, we are not one of those couples that are just there for the women." "Well, P is certainly not into my wife". "Hmm.. well I think he is." And I honestly thought he was. I was fairly sure that I remembered some comments from him indicating that he was into her.

 

And then I went to talk to P. I was wrong. CRAP! I jumped the gun again. Yes, it's getting to be a habit - one I'm working very hard to break before it happens again. P let me know very clearly that I would need to clear that up, and I fully intended to at the first chance I got. And then we got sidetracked by a hot newbie couple that seemed very interested in us (and vice versa). Of course, nothing came of that because we sensed she really wasn't ready.

 

Fast forward a month, and "we need to talk". He sat me down and I knew what was coming. "After we had that talk on the dance floor last month, you guys avoided us". "Well, to be fair, we weren't avoiding you, we just got waylaid by the hot newbie couple". "Look, we both know and accepted a long time ago that P is not into my wife. We are ok with that. We love you guys as friends and count you as one of the few couples in this lifestyle that we would really call friends outside of the lifestyle". WOW! That was huge. "We'd rather keep ya'll as friends and never fuck you." That may be the nicest compliment we've ever received in an odd way. As much as I'd fuck him in a heartbeat if we ever decided we were going to play separately (and I told him so), we feel the same way. It's good to have friends.

 

I have a single friend who would always get pissed off at the whole "let's just be friends" line saying "I've got enough friends, I don't need more friends" and I never understood it. Can you ever have too many friends? I don't think so and in the swinger world where often sex is the key attraction, sometimes it's even better if you can say you are friends. I'll take friends any day... and even if it's friends you'd love to have sex with... who cares, it just means more flirting and more fun.

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Relationships often feel like a merry-go-round. But once you get down from of the marry-go-round and gain a truer prospective (or use a better analogy), they seem more like a Venn diagram within which the intersections of circles change from time to time. We do have this one couple who are now friends without the benefit of sex. We had not anticipated that such a thing might happen. It just did. But all is well.

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We had this happen to us recently, though it was handled a bit badly. There was a couple where for whatever reason the wife and I were just not hitting it off and I'll blame myself for that one. Long story shorter they asked if they could play with my wife solo out of the blue. We don't do that sort of thing. AFTER that they did the "lets be friends" thing but it just rubbed us a bit of the wrong way. It wasn't drama or anything like that. Had they approached it slightly differently as your friends it would have gone over a lot better.

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We have been in this situation quite a few times actually. You meet and then for whatever the reason, play does not go ahead for various reasons and we ask if we can remain friends who don't fuck and they say yeah sure, but it doesn't happen. These are couples who we established that if play happened it was a bonus but if nothing else, friendly terms would be good. But I guess the people we have met so far who fell into that category, while they say they want to remain on friendly terms or in a few cases only, friends, they don't. So we moved on just as they did.

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I'm glad things worked out for you and this other couple. Like you, Mr. Sweet and I would much rather have friends than playmates. When they can be both, it's the best of both worlds.

 

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We had this happen to us recently' date=' though it was handled a bit badly. There was a couple where for whatever reason the wife and I were just not hitting it off and I'll blame myself for that one. Long story shorter they asked if they could play with my wife solo out of the blue. We don't do that sort of thing. AFTER that they did the "lets be friends" thing but it just rubbed us a bit of the wrong way. It wasn't drama or anything like that. Had they approached it slightly differently as your friends it would have gone over a lot better.[/quote']

 

Yeah, that would have hit us poorly as well.

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We have been in this situation quite a few times actually. You meet and then for whatever the reason' date=' play does not go ahead for various reasons and we ask if we can remain friends who don't fuck and they say yeah sure, but it doesn't happen. These are couples who we established that if play happened it was a bonus but if nothing else, friendly terms would be good. But I guess the people we have met so far who fell into that category, while they say they want to remain on friendly terms or in a few cases only, friends, they don't. So we moved on just as they did.[/quote']

 

There are many situations where that would likely be the case for us, as well. Honestly, there are just as few couples we've met where we would honestly love to have them as friends, as there are couples we've met where we both want to play.

 

Not long ago we had a similar situation (I posted about it here in my blog somewhere) with a different couple whom we'd played with in the past. We attempted to get together with them to play again, and things just went really bad and we realized that we had no interest in either playing or friendship. We'd been somewhat friends/acquaintances for a # of years, but looking back we realize that any time we spent with them outside of playing was just really awkward and boring. When we told them we were no longer interested in playing, they first begged, then pulled out the "but we'll still be friends? right?" and of course we said yes... what can you say really?

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