Fundamental Law 2,903 Posted November 30 This is the current Most gifted NY Times article. While focused on naturism, the fact that it is the current most gifted speaks to interest and some level of acceptance. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
PeterJ 959 Posted November 30 @Fundamental Law, i read this NYT story this morning at breakfast and thought of everyone here at the Swingers Board. As you have noted, it is interesting that it’s the most-gifted article currently on the site. It’s not as bad as most sites, but the Times has plenty of clickbait, and while i found the article enjoyable and informative I also gave it a high clickbait quotient. But i agree that it’s an encouraging sign that beyond whatever the titillation factor is involved for themselves, so many readers felt comfortable sharing an article on the subject of social nudity. (I don’t spend much time thinking about the "Naturist" vs. "Nudism" divide, but to me there seems to be an almost puritanical element in Naturism.) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
njbm 2,899 Posted November 30 We once gave naturist friends a funny Halloween card. It showed a couple arriving bare assed naked at the door of a conventional house party. The hostess looks horrified as she opens the door. The naked couple says “ I thought the invitation said costumes optional.” They put it on their nudist resort cabin’s refrigerator. It was classic. Thank you for the article, FL. I think that there would be more nudists and swingers if they were “exposed” to it. But both hobbies are somewhat underground, along with BDSM, homosexuality, etc. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fundamental Law 2,903 Posted November 30 1 hour ago, PeterJ said: @Fundamental Law, i read this NYT story this morning at breakfast and thought of everyone here at the Swingers Board. As you have noted, it is interesting that it’s the most-gifted article currently on the site. It’s not as bad as most sites, but the Times has plenty of clickbait, and while i found the article enjoyable and informative I also gave it a high clickbait quotient. The LeMonde version is about the exhibition, not the nude attendance. https://www.lemonde.fr/m-le-mag/article/2024/08/31/le-naturisme-une-epopee-dans-le-plus-simple-appareil-en-exposition-a-marseille_6300469_4500055.html Vive La Difference!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
bbarnsworth 2,652 Posted November 30 Everyone; an easy way to get around the click-bait type crap on news type websites these days is to view the article in "reader view" or "immersive reader". This works in Firefox and Edge by pressing F9. Chrome has such a mode too, but I don't use Chrome as it's basically spyware. This mode eliminates the vast majority of the click bait crap and makes articles readable again. Quote Share this post Link to post
PeterJ 959 Posted November 30 1 hour ago, bbarnsworth said: Everyone; an easy way to get around the click-bait type crap on news type websites these days is to view the article in "reader view" or "immersive reader". This works in Firefox and Edge by pressing F9. Chrome has such a mode too, but I don't use Chrome as it's basically spyware. This mode eliminates the vast majority of the click bait crap and makes articles readable again. Apple’s iOS has a Reader that functions in similar fashion. And for us who are older it offers easily adjustable font size. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,711 Posted December 2 Was this adults only? I appreciate that in Germany, FKK culture is family friendly. Quote Share this post Link to post
hunterdonNJcpl 1,421 Posted December 2 On 11/30/2024 at 10:17 AM, njbm said: Thank you for the article, FL. I think that there would be more nudists and swingers if they were “exposed” to it. But both hobbies are somewhat underground, along with BDSM, homosexuality, etc. Naturism (mostly in the form of nude beaches) is the only one we readily confess to around our vanillas. Half our vanilla friends and family think it's nuts and the other half are like "we'd love to go with you some time". 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
njbm 2,899 Posted December 2 On 11/30/2024 at 12:22 PM, PeterJ said: Apple’s iOS has a Reader that functions in similar fashion. And for us who are older it offers easily adjustable font size. Where would you find this on iPad? Quote Share this post Link to post
Fundamental Law 2,903 Posted December 3 22 hours ago, hunterdonNJcpl said: Naturism (mostly in the form of nude beaches) is the only one we readily confess to around our vanillas. Half our vanilla friends and family think it's nuts and the other half are like "we'd love to go with you some time". The use of the verb "confess" is interesting. We might have chosen "reveal" (pardon the pun, etc. ). Casual/holiday nudity has become fairly mainstream. What we hear in response mirrors your experience: it's a conversation stopper/switcher for some and a "tell us more, and can you recommend destination/travel agent" for others. As mentioned in other threads, we will invite vanillas that we know well to join us in the hot tub. About 1/3 accept, and are tentative the first time. Interestingly, when they are next in our home, it's sort of fun to see just how quickly they will hint at "is the hot tub open?" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
hunterdonNJcpl 1,421 Posted December 3 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Fundamental Law said: The use of the verb "confess" is interesting. We might have chosen "reveal" (pardon the pun, etc. ). Lol true. It feels like a confession bc sometimes it's followed by an interrogation! When we started the nude beach thing it was the 90s. We were young and just dating. We let it slip among a group of friends that we were going to Gunnison Beach (NJ's only sanctioned nude beach) the next day and were promptly the butt of many jokes. But at the end of the night one of the other couples quietly asked if they could tag along. Of course we said Yes! Edited December 3 by hunterdonNJcpl 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,457 Posted December 9 On 12/3/2024 at 7:38 AM, hunterdonNJcpl said: We let it slip among a group of friends that we were going to We are so at ease in the lifestyle with our group that our lifestyle activity does sometime slip among vanilla friends. Not overtly, but in a kind of "what do you mean?" sort of way. Quote Share this post Link to post
hunterdonNJcpl 1,421 Posted December 9 @Numex - do you think your friends gossip about you behind your back? We're pretty sure ours do. Learning a couple in your friends circle are swingers is hot tea among vanillas. Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,457 Posted December 11 (edited) On 12/8/2024 at 5:59 PM, hunterdonNJcpl said: do you think your friends gossip about you behind your back? I'm sure those who have enough clues do. My ex-wife has picked up on a sliver of our activities, which has led to some interesting discussions between me and her and her and my now-wife. The one vanilla, but really curious couple who went through the vetting process* and joined our closed group, put it together and asked. As did the single, recently divorced single woman who asked to join but we turned down because she still wanted to date outside the group. *Which was interesting because as a vanilla couple, we as a group we required them to undergo both STD testing while remaining monogamous AND to have sex in front of the rest of the group as well as watching the group swap around, and engage in no fluid soft swap activities. All to make sure that they were comfortable with the reality of it. Edited December 11 by Numex Quote Share this post Link to post
Fundamental Law 2,903 Posted December 11 15 hours ago, Numex said: *Which was interesting because as a vanilla couple, we as a group we required them to undergo both STD testing while remaining monogamous AND to have sex in front of the rest of the group as well as watching the group swap around, and engage in no fluid soft swap activities. All to make sure that they were comfortable with the reality of it. A very different sort of "Hell Week" than experienced by those who aspire to become US Navy SEALS... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
kellimc 229 Posted December 12 On 12/2/2024 at 6:07 AM, couplers said: Was this adults only? I appreciate that in Germany, FKK culture is family friendly. I had to Google FKK culture. Quote Share this post Link to post
AdamGunn2 417 Posted December 12 5 hours ago, kellimc said: I had to Google FKK culture. So did I. From Wiki: Freikörperkultur, which translated as 'free body culture', includes both the health aspects of being naked in light, air and sun and an intention to reform life and society.[1] It is partly identified with the culture of nudity, naturism and nudism in the sense of communal nudity of people and families in leisure time, sport and everyday life. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,457 Posted December 12 On 12/11/2024 at 12:46 PM, Fundamental Law said: A very different sort of "Hell Week" than experienced by those who aspire to become US Navy SEALS... It wasn't a week and it wasn't hell by any measure. We in the group were concerned that this couple who were both very eager to start swapping, perhaps her a bit more, had never had any lifestyle experience before, not even soft swapping or nudism. They wanted safety and saw our closed group of other married couples as safe. So during their test-wait-test again time, we had them join us for them and us to be sure that they wanted to do what they thought they wanted. They proved themselves to us and to themselves that they were a fit by having no problem being naked and seeing all of us naked, fucking each other in front of us and watching the group engage in all kinds of activity within itself, and playing feelies all around. After the testing came back good twice, the group voted unanimously to have them join and we celebrated the end of "hell week" by all getting together and letting them play with member of the group as they wished. He got it on with three or four of the ladies, she took all of the men that day. They are now valuable members of the community. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,457 Posted December 12 2 hours ago, AdamGunn2 said: Freikörperkultur, which translated as 'free body culture', Leave it to the Europeans to make being neh-kid sound sophisticated, cultural even. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fundamental Law 2,903 Posted December 13 5 hours ago, Numex said: Leave it to the Europeans to make being neh-kid sound sophisticated, cultural even. 5 hours ago, Numex said: Leave it to the Europeans to make being neh-kid sound sophisticated, cultural even. Das ist Richtig, mein Herr! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post