Another one on Jobs and Swinging

[Dave_kat 227]

I just got back from a shopping trip out at Wal-Mart and ran into an old friend. His wife and he are also in the lifestyle, and we've known about each other for years. Heck, the only thing that kept us from visiting with them a few times was our rule about playing with people we work with.

 

Well, in the military community, swinging is not uncommon. Heck, do a search on SLS with the zip code for the nearest town to a military base and you will find quite a few military members who have ads posted. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

Anyway, they were not so.. hardlined about those rules, and were playing with couples in their unit and other closely related units. Well, accroding to him, someone got upset that they were either rebuffed or had a bad experience, and told his chain of command. He did not know he was under investigation, but the soldier's who were all at a party claimed that he and his wife were the only one's playing (so how did they have anything to do with it being adultery if it was just the 2 of them)

 

Well, now he has been busted down in rank (he was looking at becomming an E-7, now he's back to an E-5, a big drop in pay and other things.)

 

When they questioned him, they showed him copies of emails through SLS, which included copies of emails that we exchanged a couple of times, and questioned him as to who we were, units, etc. Lucky for everyone else involved, he played very quiet. He did specify to me that they had a picture of kat (just none of me luckily).

 

Not to mention, the military was either granted permission to access SLS for the purpose of gathering information against this person, or hacked the site.

 

Just thought we'd put this out there.

[menher1559 17]

Guess it just goes to show that it's never safe to let your guard down. It really pisses me sometimes that people are so miserable in their own lives that they must make others miserable to find happiness.

[JnCC 24]

That's one reason I didn't make a career of the military...too many opportunities to displease a superior, or to commit a transgression against their Middle-American moral standards.

 

What I didn't know at the time was that most civilian jobs aren't much different.

 

The thing is, I KNOW how military personnel behave when they're away from home. If the "High Command" slammed EVERY service man (and woman) who "broke the rules" on extra-marital sexual behavior, we'd be left with nothing but Wal-Mart greeters flying F-18's and Boy Scouts driving M-1 tanks.

[two4youinswva 3,068]

JnCC said:

The thing is, I KNOW how military personnel behave when they're away from home.

 

Reminds me of the saying, when I was in the service; "What happens on TDY, stays TDY."

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

Not to mention, the military was either granted permission to access SLS for the purpose of gathering information against this person, or hacked the site.

 

Just thought we'd put this out there.

 

Keep in mind on this part that ANYONE can access any of these sites simply by signing up. All they would have to do is create a free account and they can search the system and access profiles. How much they can see is really up to you and what you put out there, private vs. public pics, etc. I believe that SLS also allows you, the user, to block non-paying members from viewing your profile (but don't quote me on that).

 

There's really no issue of hacking or of anyone granting access to anything.

[Dave_kat 227]

Actually they had all of the emails, including the ones he deleted, when they went before his superior. That's either hacking or SLS cmoplied with this request

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

Interesting, that might be something you want to bring up over on SLS and see what they have to say about it. If they were hacked, I'm sure they'd want to know, I really can't see them just handing over that info without a court order.

 

Is it possible that whoever turned him in hacked his account and got the emails?

[Guest Mr&Mrs-naughty]

Reminds me of the saying, when I was in the service; "What happens on TDY, stays TDY."

 

Yup,

And that is a piss poor rule to live by. I have seen more divorces from people adopting that attitude. It doesn't work that way.

[TNT 1,155]

Another possibility is if he was using the auto-notify feature on SLS, it forwards a copy of the message to an e-mail account. If they investigated his home computer or if he was foolish enough to use his dot gov account there were all his emails. The Patriot Act seriously reduced your protections against surveillance so watch your ass.

 

Ted

[JnCC 24]

Yup,

And that is a piss poor rule to live by. I have seen more divorces from people adopting that attitude. It doesn't work that way.

Some people find it very difficult to maintain monogamous relationships over the long haul. Personally, I believe that contrary to "conventional wisdom" on the subject, if we're lucky we pair-bond with somebody who finds it equally difficult. That way, even if we don't agree with them on exactly how to deal with the problem, at least we are in agreement that it's a problem that must be dealt with. Swinging is one answer and works for a small percentage of people, but there are many other "avenues of release," most of which are familiar to anybody who's ever read a woman's magazine or watched television after 9 P.M.

 

For example, what about marriages in which one or both have long-term affairs and divorce is NOT the result? My best friend just broke off with a woman he'd been having an affair with for the last 8 years. Whenever her husband has to travel out of town with his "secretary," his wife goes on her own "trip around the world" with my friend. Both have pretty strong suspicions about what the other is doing, but continue to live in what appears to be an otherwise loving and committed marriage. Neither is pressing for details from the other, provided that some discretion is exercised in the execution. (no calls to the family home, no exposure in public or to the kids, etc.) Neither appears to have any intention of leaving the marriage. (much to my friends dismay)

 

On it's face, it's cheating, pure and simple. But it works for them. Is their marriage any more "dysfunctional" than a typical swinger's, just because her husband doesn't know my friends name, or the exact details of when and where he's bedding her? The majority of what this woman and her husband each need in the way of companionship, they get from their marriage. The rest, he gets from his "golf" or "business" trips, and she from her weekly liasons with her lover.

 

Most people aren't emotionally capable of embracing the "swingers lifestyle," and so they become liars instead. I'm not sure that's such a bad thing. But one thing I am sure of, is that however they deal with their problems, as long as it works for them, I don't pass judgement, and ask for the same consideration in return.

[Dave_kat 227]

Well, I'm no good at getting full quotes, but as far as the TDY, while I admit it happens, it's not something that I would choose to partake in. While in Kosovo I had plenty of oppourtunity, but I certainly chose not to. Maybe that is pair-bonding and why kat and I are so good to each other.

 

The Army did not even look at his own computer. This was all prepared without him even knowing it was going on, and when he found out, he went and tried to delete all the material out of SLS.

 

The problem is, under the UCMJ, they do not need a court order to do something like this. My concern with asking the admin of SLS is that they actually did allow the Army into the site, or forwarded the information. If so, my emailing about this profile, this case could cause me to revisit this trouble that we have already barely avoided.

[Guest Mr&Mrs-naughty]

Jncc,

 

I have been in the military 14 years and I know "What goes TDY stays TDY" means.

 

As soon as the plane hits the ground the guy is instantly on the prowl for a piece of ass and does not stop his quest until getting on the plane to go home no matter how many pieces of ass he has gotten. It works the same way for women except their numbers aren't quite as many.

 

It's one thing if the wife/husband tells the the other it is ok to play when they are out of town as long as it stays there. But to have a loving wife/husband home taking care of all the bills, house, kids and all the other shit it takes to make the world go round while the other is out getting his/her rocks off while at the same time calling home and telling his wife how well he is behaving himself is WRONG!!!

[JnCC 24]

I have been in the military 14 years and I know "What goes TDY stays TDY" means. As soon as the plane hits the ground the guy is instantly on the prowl for a piece of ass and does not stop his quest until getting on the plane to go home no matter how many pieces of ass he has gotten.

Wellll, yes and no. I've been in the flying business for...well, let's not go there, I'm startin' to get a little sensitive on the subject of "age"...but let's just say "it's been a while." Most of the guys I work with are ex-military. Some, and I won't try to place an exact percentage on it, but some ARE looking the minute they hit the ground. BUT...that "percentage," whatever it is, is probably not much different from any other group in their age/education/personality demographic. My personal experience has been that most guys do it once or twice, some guys do it occasionally, but very few do it all the time. When my ex- and I were active in the Lifestyle, I was damn near a "Boy Scout" on the road. It was a promise to her I made, and kept, right to the end of our marriage. I hope that brings some comfort to you girls whose husbands spend a lot of time on the road...

 

C'mon buddy, don't bust my chops on this "TDY" thing, OK? I'm having enough trouble trying to convince women to date me when they find out I'm a pilot...

 

It's one thing if the wife/husband tells the the other it is ok to play when they are out of town as long as it stays there

That was my point...some couples who could NEVER bring themselves to say "it's OK," will look the other way, provided that most of their other needs are being met within the marriage. The suspected transgression doesn't even have to stay "out of town"...just keeping it "off the dinner table, out of the checkbook, and away from friends, family, and the ladies at the bridge club" is usually enough. I've worked with guys who gave their wives tacit approval to dally when they were away. One was very careful never to return early from a trip, lest he "have to kick some guys ass."

 

A few years ago, we saw some very prominant political figures involved in some rather embarrassing adulterous relations. The behavior had undoubtedly been going on for years, but the wifes indignation wasn't that he had been doing it . Rather, it was that he had been caught doing it. I'm sure that if I write anything more on the subject, the webmaster will probably delete this whole post for appearing "political," and that's not my intent. But you know what I'm talkin' about, we've all had friends or acquaintances who have been in similar situations.

 

But to have a loving wife/husband home taking care of all the bills,house,kids and all the other shit it takes to make the world go round while the other is out getting his/her rocks off while at the same time calling home and telling his wife how well he is behaving himself is WRONG!!!

The "swinger" in me wants to say "YOU are CORRECT, sir!" But the realist wants to say..."let's not be so fast in our condemnation of Lifestyles other than our own. There's room for many different shades of grey here." I'm NOT making any excuses for anybody. As a single guy, hardly a week goes by that I don't talk to somebody who's been terribly hurt by a spouse's indiscretion. But bear in mind that some women who find their sex lives growing predictable and melancholy can't bear the thought of bringing anybody else into it, so they simply "shut down," or retreat into a masturbatory fantasy world. (often times, thanks to the internet and the availability of cheap hookers, their husband is already IN that world) Those women are often easy to find...just look for the "Supermom" at any school or church function. (I'm kidding, of course. Uh-huh...)

 

As I said before, staying in a marriage is tough...damn tough, for many people. And divorce sucks, especially if you're a kid. I have a tremendous amount of respect for couples who are able to "keep the fire alive" by incorporating swinging into their marriages. But then, I have the same amount of respect for couples who are able to incorporate ANY coping mechanism(s) that serve to keep the family unit intact.

[Dave_kat 227]

I've been in the Army for almost 9 years now, and I can tell you exactly how it is. Let's see. During OIF (I crossed the border on March 19, 2002, exactly 12 hours before the president annouced the beginning of the ground war) and we had several female medics attached to our platoon to provide consolidated support. Of those medics, 3 were female, and all three were having the time of their lives with both married and single soldiers, while the bullets were flying. Officers and Enlisted both for that matter.

 

I got back to Kuwait in Mid May, 2002, and I met 2 female 2nd LT's in the PX who were running a service out back of the Aid station. And boy did they make money.

 

While in Kosovo in 2000, everyone was afforded the oppourtunity to go to Sofia, Bulgaria, and well, let's just say that tons of brothels were opened to service the U.S. Army. Soldier's would come back with stories of parties that well, let's just say that a few spent quite a bit of time at these locations.

 

Heck, my last NTC rotation in June of this year, we had several married senior NCOs take underage soldiers to Vegas while we were out in the training area, and have fun. That did not go over well at all.

 

Right now, I just got back from dealing with a soldier who is married, had a wife in California, and a girlfriend (she just turned 18 in Nov) who is now 2 months pregnant. He moves his wife here, and boy if the young girl's mother is not on the phone with the 1SG.

 

And on the 15th, I have been required for the Court-Martial of a soldier who, among other things, is accused of raping his 15 year old cousin, and is claiming that his wife was the one sleeping with the same cousin.

 

Not only is the TDY mentality common, it's rather prevalent.

 

Still, even as an experienced swinger, I'm not interested in partaking in any of this business. My wife can still play with our friends while I'm gone, I know them and trust them. I'm not going to deny her sex while I'm unable to have some myself, that's in my mind just plain wrong. As you say, she's back here making sure the bills are getting paid on time, we're saving money, and all the while she's worried sick that some stray bullet or car bomb will have my name on it. If it distracts her from the pressure of that, heck I'm all for it. (I just want details) I'l end up being celibate, but unless someone really loves sex on the beach, that's probably a very good thing, there's just too much sand and not enough water there to wash it off.

 

Still, I have my concerns. My original reason for posting was because somehow the Army got into SLS and had access to all of the emails and pictures (including private) of this couple, without this couple's knowledge. Deleted emails included.

 

While I'm thinking about it though, I find it interesting that the Army supports things like the events in Bulgaria (heck, there was a bordello on the top floor of the hotel we were required to stay in) and yet will pursue incidents like Swinging when everyone involved is adult and it is consentual, on all parts. (perhaps a bit political, and if so I apologise).

[Guest Mr&Mrs-naughty]

Posted by JnCC:

 

The "swinger" in me wants to say "YOU are CORRECT, sir!" But the realist wants to say..."let's not be so fast in our condemnation of Lifestyles other than our own.

 

What I am condeming is cheating.

 

I've seen it enough to know what it is and what it isn't.

[Guest Mr&Mrs-naughty]

Dave,

 

That is kind of weird how they got their e-mails.

 

I can understand your not wanting to inquire for fear of further inditing yourself.

 

But what about the guy who got caught? If I was him I would be asking questions.

 

Is his wife Military? If not, she is beyond approach and she can ask the questions to SLS.

 

If they had e-mails between you and them and others I would definately have someone contact SLS. If they did not give access they should know someone has found a way to hack their site. And if they did give access, why?

[Dave_kat 227]

That's our questions. He was asking questions, and a lawyer told him that the messages were obtained legally, although he did not go into it further. Since he wasn't directly told, he himself could not tell me.

 

Unfortunately in the military, the soldier is responsible for the actions of his spouse. If his wife pressed the issue about SLS authorizing access, this whole thing could be reopened against him and taken to a higher authority.

 

For those that do not know, there are several levels of justice authority that the military uses. The lowest is Article 15, which is also called non-judicial punishment. Had this person not stood up and said I did not and will not identify anyone else, they might have even not pursued him in favor of a group of others. He did though, so it fell solely on his shoulders.

 

Rocking the boat, so to speak, can reopen the case, and since those of us in the military are in fact breaking the law by participating, he can be forced to name people or face even further prosecution. Should his wife choose to, the same thing can happen.

 

Since it was non-judicial punishment, there is no double jeopardy.

 

Now as far as my wife and myself are concerned, we would be willing to fight on the basis of religious practice although that in itself would be quite the fight. I can see it now, a 1st Amendment fight against federal law. Wouldn't be very quick.

 

To be honest, our hands are tied. If we rock the boat, a simple email back to the Investigator General, and now it's a whole new ball game.

[Guest Mr&Mrs-naughty]

I believe a soldier is only responsible for the actions of his spouse for things that happen on post.

 

But either way I can see your not wanting to pry.

 

Just curious... Did you dump your SLS ad?

[Dave_kat 227]

We're considering it, although it's kind of pointless now to maintain it since I leave the country in less than a month. I think as long as noone has a clue of what I do on the weekends, they can't really complain. It's very rare that we play with military ourselves, so I can't see there being too much of a reason for someone to complain.

 

I did make any pictures that show myself private, hopefully that will keep problems limited. Although there is one couple who has a pic of him in his Class A's, and I have not heard of something happening to them.

[northindycpl 32]

Reminds me of the saying, when I was in the service; "What happens on TDY, stays TDY."

 

I don't know what TDY stands for?

[Guest Mr&Mrs-naughty]

TDY= Temporary Duty

 

It is the same thing as a deployment.

It means being sent away from home to do their job or go to a school etc...

[Guest Mr&Mrs-naughty]

I did make any pictures that show myself private, hopefully that will keep problems limited.

 

If they had e-mails from you how did they not see the pics of you if they were not private before?

[xxoticangel 99]

Interesting topic and not one I thought the new "enlightened" military would spend time on considering all the other things going on in our world.

 

Back in my military days (pre Desert Shield/Storm) we had a similar incident that resulted in several lost ranks as well as forced retirements and resignations. While I was not involved in the investigation I did have the opportunity to read the reports from the investigators in the field. A unit on my base was involved in a "key swap" where everyone put his house key in a hat on Friday afternoon. One couple was designated "child care" and the others spent the entire weekend with whichever spouse he drew. Almost every married unit member (about 25) from the CO (O5) to the privates was involved. Every thing started when one wife got a case of the guilts after over 3 years of participating when she fell in love with another guy. In order to save her marriage she felt she had to stop and the only way to stop was to take away the temptation. She provided details to the PMO that included names, dates, and locations (this was something that was happening throughout the world). In the end every officer involved either retired or resigned, and every NCO was busted or not promoted.

 

There was also a prostitution investigation after Desert Storm. It was reported that several of the females had made a lot of money selling sex to males while deployed to the desert. It turned out that some of the women had deposited over $150,000 into their accounts in a year. While we all know where the money came there was never enough evidence to pursue criminal charges.

 

Due to the nature of my current job I am now wondering if I should pull my ads and become more vanilla. If it was discovered I would be fired for "moral" reasons. For some reason people look the other way at adultry but run away screaming when confronted by a swinger.

[swinglifestyle 15]

SLS here.

We do not comply with any request for private info without a court order.

We have never been contacted by any military branch and have never supplied any info to any of them.

 

Hacking of our site has not occured, that being relative to how you define a "hack". Guessing a users password and accessing their account is not a hack from my point of view. Accessing any site from a military base or military house hold would probably be subject to the militarys ability to monitor what you do.

 

Seems to me that the military has no right to invade this persons privacy and if what has been said is true, why is it being discussed here? Sounds like the military needs to be sued to me.

 

Without more info about what really happened, it's difficult to say much else.

 

We do not monitor this forum, any replies here will probably go unnoticed ;-(

[BettyAnnMBSC 24]

 

Having spent many many years in the military (1980 - 1998) and having been involved in such matters in the past, let me share some facts.

 

First, we don't have enough information here to decide whether the military invaded this service members privacy.

 

We don't know what the actual charge was but we can be fairly certain that the specification didn't read "on or about 3 september, SSG Jones did knowingly and willfully engage in swinging" -- it could well have been a charge on grounds of adultery and these are in fact more and more common. However, if his wife or playmate (or her husband) didn't make the complaint, then the fact that emails offering to engage in adultery were found isn't sufficient to show that an act of adultery actually occured. No CO wants to have an NJP review overturned because he didn't have evidence of the event.

 

If the service member lives in military quarters, uses a DoD laptop, or used his work computer for messaging or accessing SLS then those systems are free game for a serach by the command with no further legal authorization. The simple act of entering a military reservation subjects you and your property to search at the pleasure of military authorities. As it should!

 

Without a thorough review of the preceedings, it's impossible to understand the nature of the charges or the outcome. Since there are known "swingers" who have not had security clearances denied based on their swinging activity, it is hard to imagine that an NJP hearing was successfully reviewed and approved based solely on "swinging".

 

What is more believable is that the NJP specification relates to "inappropriate use of a government computer" -- wherein a service member used a govt machine to access SLS (for his personal satisfaction) and sent unofficial emails from that machine for the purpose of sexual gratification.

 

This then would be an issue in any work environment and not just in the military. It's been made clear that emails on a work computer are not private. Nor are websites visited or people contacted.

 

It is also possible that the SSG was confronted with an issue/charge of farternization. Possible if the SSG had contacted or actually played with the wife of a lower grade service member or if the playmate was a lower grade playmate. Military swingers are reminded that just because the Petty Officer and his wife are "swingers" doesn't mean the Senior Chief can't be nailed for fraternization if he sleeps with her. No less so than if he simply had an illicit affair with the Petty Officer's wife.

 

On some installations (training stations such as Fort Jackson South Carolina for example) a permanently assigned NCO or officer may be charged with fraternization for involvement with any member in a training status -- even if she and her husband are swingers. Even if she is also a prostitute! Even if she is senior in rank or 35 years old. It's a really common way to be reduced in grade at places like Fort Jackson. No sex with trainees!

 

There is clearly more to this former SSGs story -- it is indeed an issue of concern for those who have had contact with the SSG of a sexual nature. Did the SSG store pictures of other SMs wives on his PC? Did his browser cache images from SLS? If it's a gov't computer then those are now their images.

 

Based on my experience (and is only my opinion); the justice system in the military is much more fair and forgiving than here in the civilian world. I found that most service members who complained about NJP left significant parts of the story out when it was retold. Not to be a cynic but I'd not be surprised to hear a story like this begin "I was surfing porn on my work computer on company time.... and they got all pissed off..."

[JnCC 24]

Thank you!

 

I've thought all along that there was more to this story that we were hearing here. Your explanation of what may have happened is far more plausible than the one offered by the person who was reduced in rank.

 

As I stated before, before the military starts prosecuting soldiers, sailors and airmen for marital infidelity or other sexual misconduct, they'd better find a way to run their operation with about a fourth of the personel they currently employ. Include unfaithful military wives into the equation, and there won't be anybody left to defend our country.

[Dave_kat 227]

The charge was adultery, and I'll freely admit to not knowing the full details of how the information came around. He did tell me they specifically asked about myself and my wife, and they did have deleted copies of emails from SLS as supporting evidence. The charge was brought on by a servicemember who was at the party, claimed he did not participate, and that he observed the goings on.

 

This was at the SSG's off post residence, and I know for a fact that this SSG does not have a DOD computer. In other words, everything occurred off post. There was no search and seizure based on materials brought through the gate, they did not even go to his house and look at his computer.

 

I understand the viewpoint of the SLS for coming in and saying they weren't hacked and did not comply with any request without a court order. I wish they would monitor this or I had some contact information to see if there was a judicial court order from a military court authority (CID could have done the investigation, turning everything over to the BC for review and his decision on what level to maintain judicial authority).

 

Granted, we get into another sticky privacy issue with that.

 

I imagine they had pics of my wife because those were attached to the emails we exchanged when conversing about goings on in town. That was the limit of our talks online, due to us having talked back in the unit at one time and decidind that we worked too closely to play. If they had an account, they would surely have identified at least 25 couples from this post alone who have ads on there, using the military base as their residence zipcode.

 

My concern is where they got the email history from, that they used in this case.

Well, that and the fact that we have discussed on here, swinging and it's potential if discovered, and to illustrate it happening.

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

I wish they would monitor this or I had some contact information to see if there was a judicial court order from a military court authority (CID could have done the investigation, turning everything over to the BC for review and his decision on what level to maintain judicial authority).

 

You can contact the folks at SLS over at the SLS site, you are a member there from what you've said, so you can either bring it up on the forums there to discuss it more with them, OR you can message them through the system there, or email them - webmaster@swinglifestyle.com

 

This site is not part of SLS so there is no reason to expect them to monitor it. The only reason they even knew of this thread was because I had emailed Brian regarding the thread to give him a chance to check it out and respond.

 

Discussing the issue directly with them would be your best issue towards getting something resolved. No one else is going to be able to help you other than giving you opinions and guesses as to what may or may not have happened.

[BettyAnnMBSC 24]

Understand that I don't know the particulars of this incident. I don't know the people involved. What I do know is that some of the statements "don't wash".

 

It is very unlikely indeed that CID conducted any sort of extensive investigation for a matter that was going to NJP. It is also unlikely that SLS was issued a military authority court order to release records because had they been, the issue would probably have been widely reported in the news.

 

A person observing an occurence of adultry can not bring a charge of adultry (as far as I remember) -- that charge would have to come from 1) the command or 2) the injured persons.

 

As to where they got the emails from -- there are certain provisions of recently enacted laws that allow the authorities to come to your house, copy your hard drive, and leave without a trace. No warrant required.

 

More likely though -- if the exchange of emails was happening, it is possible that one of the participants provided copies.

 

Of interest however is that SLS doesn't forward "emails" (AFIK) - they simply make you aware that a message is waiting for you on their servers. Their involvement in this issue is unlikely at best.

 

Again, we simply have too little information to understand what happened. Not knowing the SSG, I can't speak to his integrity but, even if he told you his whole side of the story -- you still only have one side of the story.

 

As is the case in most walks of life -- if something is a serious enough hazard, you avoid that hazard. If having pictures of your wife in emails is a concern, then you might wish to not put pictures in your emails.

 

The specification for a charge of adultery requires:

 

(1) That the accused wrongfully had sexual intercourse with a certain person;

 

(2) That, at the time, the accused or the other person was married to someone else; and

 

(3) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

 

"Discredit means to injure the reputation of the armed forces and includes adulterous conduct that has a tendency, because of its open or notorious nature, to bring the service into disrepute, make it subject to public ridicule, or lower it in public esteem."

 

Could a person make a valid argument that being involved in the lifestyle could subject the service to public ridicule -- probably so...

 

chances are though... there is still more to the story than we have heard...

[Dave_kat 227]

I agree that with all of this, I have not gotten the whole story. My biggest concern is that they have had emails from myself and my wife used in this case (as far as he has at least told us). Whatever the workings of it, I guess it is something that I will probably never know (this individual has since been moved to another unit in another brigade, and it is a rarity that I will run into him to get an explanation for the disparity of the whole thing.

 

I do know that being in the military and in the lifestyle is a combination that has the potential of doing us some damage, but for us it is an acceptable risk based on the selections we make.

 

 

Julie, I will email Brian, I thank you for the address. Hopefully my concerns are unfounded and he just doesn't know that they guessed his password, or something along those lines.

 

I do appreciate everyone's responses to this whole thing.

[BradAndJanet 70]

BettyAnnMBSC said:

... Of interest however is that SLS doesn't forward "emails" (AFIK) - they simply make you aware that a message is waiting for you on their servers. ...

A minor point to be sure, but they do forward the contents of the message if you select that option in your profile. I believe that may be a recently added feature.

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

BradAndJanet said:

A minor point to be sure, but they do forward the contents of the message if you select that option in your profile. I believe that may be a recently added feature.

 

I'm pretty sure that has always been a standard feature.