Single Guys Looking For Hot Married Girl Sex?

[Wunhungdude 15]

Regarding single guys looking for sex with hot married women, here is my take.

 

After much reading on this web site and other related "swinging" web sites... I am NOT a swinger per se, but I am a very sexually active individual (single) who finds himself involved in multiple partner scenarios, and with married women quite frequently.

 

My reason for posting now, instead of just continuing to laugh my ass off at all the single guys bitching and moaning about not being able to hook up, is this: I am going to make a general statement to all of the single guys who frequent the boards looking for hot, married-girl action... It's never going to happen!

 

If you have not figured it out by now, someone needs to tell you - IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN! Get a freakin' clue! The "Swinging" lifestyle it occurs to me is almost like a "Members Only" club, meaning if you don't bring something to the table to swap... you really have no right to be sitting at the table!

 

Get off your ass, and off the internet, and go out into the real world and prove you have some redeeming qualities by actually getting a girl on your own merits! Stop hounding the guys here about wanting to screw their wives! I have a strong suspicion that once most of you (if possible?) get girlfriends, you won't be posting here anymore!

 

Lastly, this site is like going to a car show. Lot's of pretty people on display - but NEVER be so crass as to ask for the keys to someone else's car!!!!! Unless you show up in a Muscle car, exotic sports car, or other fine collectible (your woman), you have no RIGHT to ask to sit in, sit on, or drive someone else's ride!

 

I don't come to this site to hook up with anyone, I come here to read stories from like-minded individuals. Somebody has needed to tell your bitching, whining ass single cry babies for a while now to GO OUT AND GET YOUR OWN ASS - THEN COME BACK TO POST!

 

I don't know of a single woman who responds to a guy whining about what he does not have! It seems to me there are posts every day about how people don't want to meet you, or hook up with you. Boo-hoo! Let me tell you, every/any night of the week I can go out and find sex (no, not for money either!). Why can't you? If you are intelligent, decent, caring, warm-hearted, or have anything to offer - a woman WILL notice and WILL choose to spend time with you.

 

If you find you can't EVER meet, or succeed with any woman... Probably time to take a long look in the mirror and figure out what the fuck is wrong with you! Spending too much time frequenting "swingers" boards that you are not developing your social skills? Too much time chasing illusions of sex with married women? Too much time spent chasing porn on the internet?

 

I know my statements ARE inflammatory - hate me if you like as I really could not care less. But know this, you know that I am right about you. I am out having sex with beautiful women pretty much every night of the week. I am being introduced to new ladies by females I have already slept with. What does that tell you? Not only do I not have to hound other guys girls for sex, I have women working for me to introduce me to other girls!

 

I don't ask for it to happen this way... I simply treat each woman that I meet as if she were a queen. I show respect. I try and make women feel comfortable about themselves. I offer compliments often. I SHOW, not just talk about how much I care and feel for them as individuals.

 

I hope that any single guy reading this takes something away from it that can help them be more successful with women. The one thing I take away from the pissing-posts is that my life is SUPER! I now realize how good I really have it!

 

Thank you very much~!

[northindycpl 32]

WOW......................................

[cpl4playmass 31]

Allllllrighty then!!!!!

[CB_n_Red 16]

Well.... I did sort of expect some sort of reaction from others when I read that one!

 

Just waiting for some of the others single blokes to chuck in their two penn'orth

[Alura 2,775]

Well, Wunhungdude, although I agree with much of what you wrote and am sympathetic with your basic philosophy if not your delivery...

 

There is some demand, vastly overfilled, for single men among swingers. Some couples prefer them and that's okay.

 

And you're right... They need to develop some basic manners.

[gentletexan 15]

I have been lurking here for a while (I hope y'all forgive me for lurking). I'm not a swinger just fascinated by the stories and the insight offered by others.

 

Wunhungdude, let me tell you I have been wondering the same thing for a long time. The single guys make it sound like they are being victimized or something when they can't find suitable females. The part about how to treat women and getting off their asses and looking in the mirror was, well priceless. I like the way you write.

 

Once again, forgive me if anyone feels I shouldn't post.

[JnCC 24]

Ya know, for a guy that claims NOT to be a swinger, you pretty well "nailed it" on the subject of single males in the Lifestyle. I couldn't agree with you more!

 

The only thing I'd take exception to is your statement that single guys should "Stop hounding the guys here about wanting to screw their wives!"

 

I have NEVER initiated contact with a couple as a single male, and never will. In fact, I don't even reference my SLS ad in my profile, since I'm not "trolling for couples" in here OR over there. I think most of the single guys who regularly post here feel about the same way. I don't know about them, but I'm saving MY "crocodile tears" for the attractive and articulate single women who don't call back, not the couples.

 

Other than that, spot-on! 'Course, how many guys will read and believe it is another matter...

[VegasLee 1,486]

As the Male of a couple I won't totally agree but he brings up some great points.

 

Get out where the women - swinging couples are. All this nonsense online is not going to get you much of anywhere.

 

Laura gets 20 plus online messages a day, with blank profiles of course asking if she wants to meet up. (that is the nice ones). She just tells them, we are at the club on this night, be there so I can see if I want to "meet up." NO ONE wants to have sex with someone they have not even seen. Get a clue guys.

 

We look mostly for single guys to party with. Sometimes as a couple, other times just for her. Don't make our life so hard as to act like an ass online all the time. Show up if you say your going to and check out what is really going on.

 

If we are at the club, we are there to party. Not play silly bar games all night. This is a SWINGERS CLUB, we are there to swing.

 

He is very right, as long as you hang out on line crying and whining about all the online BS then you will do nothing but hang out online.

 

Go where the swingers are if you want to play with swingers.

[hotsummers 15]

LOL It just sounds like you are full of yourself and are the exact kind of conceited single male we work to avoid. Pushy, arrogant and thinks that they are Gods gift to women. No thanks.

[curiousagain 326]

There is no denying much of the OP is true. But, it is obviously written by someone who is part of a wife swapping couple.

 

It is obvious from the OP words and terminology that he sees his wife the same as he does his car or other expensive toy. It/she is property and "you can only ride mine if I can ride yours" is his mentality whether it is an inanimate or animate possession of his.

 

The last two paragraphs have much good in them but are negated by the obviousness of the poster's ulterior motives and thoughts displayed in the first paragraph.

[Spoomonkey 421]

Great advice - shitty attitude...

 

Shift thoroughly and enjoy

 

Spoomonkey (who has sex with beautiful women every night too... Hehe)

[Wunhungdude 15]

Thanks for the feedback guys & gals. Some things I would like to respond to:

 

I am SINGLE as is indicated in my post.

 

Arrogant & conceited? Amazing how quickly the line between assured self confidence and conceit is moved by someone who does not even know you.

Shitty Attitude? Guilty! Admittedly I succumbed to the negativity, and thus became guilty party by responding with negativity. Is there room on the boards for forgiveness?

 

Do I spend time with beautiful women most every night? I would counter with another question-what do you consider beautiful? I find the company of a "beautiful" woman to be quite intoxicating. Beauty however is a very limiting adjective unless and until it is opened up to include more than physical appearance. I spend time with soccer moms, single moms, doctors, politicians, socialites and anyone else who would choose to honor me with their presence. Every single person has something special to offer, and are unique in their own way. That is where the beauty comes from. I have yet to meet a single person who does not have something to teach me. You simply have to be a good listener to hear the lesson. People in general very often overlook other individuals based solely on their physical appearance. I am a little deeper than that.

 

I wonder how offended some of you might be to learn that my time is paid for by the company that I keep. The years of refinement, and social lessons and pain at learning the correct social graces to achieve this level of success I fear may be beyond comprehension. My years spent at college were childs play considering the lessons I have learned in the real world. I am not advertising as I am sure the site prohibits that....

 

In hind-sight maybe it is not such a bad thing that many guys are spending their time on-line and surfing this site as it leaves that many more women unattended, and lessens competition. Thank you!

 

In closing, single guys-the world is your oyster.. You simply have to have the drive and determination to make your wants, needs & dreams a reality.

 

I've enjoyed my time here. This is a very healthy outlet for me. Thanks again!

[SexhoundDog 18]

I wonder how offended some of you might be to learn that my time is paid for by the company that I keep. I've enjoyed my time here. This is a very healthy outlet for me. Thanks again!

 

What, are you a gigolo or something? I can't imagine this being THAT healthy of an outlet if you're getting it as much as you claim though.

 

Your article did humor me though. You definitely don't lack confidence, and I don't know you well enough to call you arrogant. But hey, if it works, who's knockin' it?

[dave110256 21]

Your time is paid for????????You're on the wrong site for that.

[gentletexan 15]

Awww...Wunhungdude "you get paid by the company you keep". I wish I hadn't read that, now you have ruined my image of you. Here I was thinking you were a debonair, thoughtful, considerate, Cary Grant type instead you're Richard Gere in American Gigolo. I think I'll go back to lurking.

[JnCC 24]

I wonder how offended some of you might be to learn that my time is paid for by the company that I keep.

 

That ices it! I take back the nice things I said about you a few posts ago. Now, I KNOW you're full of shit.

 

99.9% of the guys who are "being paid for their companionship" are earning their money in the company of wealthy older males. The remaining .1% are, well, let's just say, "YOU ain't one of 'em." In fact, the only "beautiful women" you "spend time with every night" are in your gratuously inflated MIND, Buck-O.

 

Oh well, everybody is entitled to 15 minutes of fame. I guess this is how he wanted to spend 5 of his...

[EternallySingle 32]

What can I say that I didn't say before?

 

Oh, yeah. Do you know why so many women recommend you to their friends for sex? They don't have to work for it with you. They don't have to be nice, or kind, or genuinely concerned about how your day went. They just have to say they want it, you'll show up, and they can give you a little token, kick you out, then brag to their friends about what happened.

 

When I was in Tacoma, right after I left active duty, I had a 'girlfriend' for a short time (two weeks) who had that kind of arrangement with about a dozen guys around town. I dumped her the fourth time she asked if I'd give her money for some imaginary bill. Then some guys in my unit told me how stupid that was, since she was charging me less than other guys. And this was while I was in the National Guard, not overseas in Germany or Korea. Sure, those women might like your company and technique, but for how long? And how long will you be satisfied with that.

 

But thats your life. You get paid, I take mine in trade, at least friendship for friendship. Whats difficult? Finding real friends that can deal with having sex as well. Not judging you, though. I've been there. It was fun...in the beginning.

[Wunhungdude 15]

You guys & gals crack me up. Glad I could be of service to you. Something I am quite used to-being of service that is :-)~ !

 

This post did not start out as me bragging about how much sex I get.. It started out about me bitching (imagine that!) about the single guys crying about NOT getting any.

 

I don't know the people on the board very well, but I am enjoying your company immensely. If I am still welcome, I would like to continue to participate!

 

Just so you know, my feelings are not hurt in the least.. I respect that you can speak your opinions here.

 

By the way, if ever any of you are down in Houston, and would like to get together for a drink, and enjoy some good conversation, I would like that very much.

 

Until then~~I hope everyone has a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year!

 

I wonder who's stocking I will find myself in this Christmas?

[gentletexan 15]

Wunhungdude I'm in Houston, I'll meet you, no wait...if I meet you do I have to pay you ?

 

This time I really promise to go back to lurking.

[Wunhungdude 15]

JnCC-I am trying to make sense of your comment "The remaining .1% are, well, let's just say, "YOU ain't one of 'em." In fact, the only "beautiful women" you "spend time with every night" are in your gratuously inflated MIND, Buck-O."

 

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and researched the word "gratuously" as I previously had not heard it before. Alas I find the word does not exist-at least in the Kings English. Were you by chance going for "GRATUITOUSLY"? If you were, that really does not make a lot of sense to me either.

 

Here is a practical application: "JnCC found his grammar had come under gratuituous criticism." Which is blatantly the case at this point.

 

I am not feeling the love from you.. A SMARTER person would be slower to pass judgement, and more open to the idea that just because it is NOT POSSIBLE in your life that it does not mutually exclude someone else from being successful in a similar venture. Only the ignorant fear what they do not understand. Embrace me brother, I can be your best friend. Life is far too short to harbor negative feelings about ANYONE!

 

Remember what I posted earlier-everyone has something to teach us. I am searching patiently for what it is I am supposed to learn from you..

[Wunhungdude 15]

Gentletexan, I appreciate you taking time to respond. If you seriously ever want to get together to chew the fat, I am available.

 

Do you have any favorite haunts here in Houston? I have been frequenting Uptown Sushi, The Capitol Grille, and also Marks or Pierres. I occasionally go over to Sullivans where there are easy pickings, but the crowd is a little older if that suits your tastes.

[curiousagain 326]

Troll

 

But, I'll take the bait. NO, Dude, you began your post bitching cause guys weren't bringing "their own toys" to "playtime". There are a lot of intelligent, self assured, women of their own mind on here and being treated as property is not high on their goal list.

 

As far as being a "kept man" by women, been there, done that, ain't going back. I was young, when you're young, you'll try almost anything. Maybe that is your problem. Men are not kept or compensated, Boy toys are. Men do as they want, boy toys do as they're told. Grow a sack and get a little self respect and act like a man. Treat women like human beings and not customers or property.

 

But, anyway, there is forgiveness on this board, but just a little hint, you're going about it the wrong way. Name calling and such have no place here. It's a pretty open forum provided you have manners and respect for other posters.

 

Aw, forget it, probably a troll anyway.

[growgirl 15]

Curiousagain, I was just going post the same thing. Troll..... Seen a few on here, but this guy is a little better than most...

[northindycpl 32]

To play devils advocate for a second (maybe it is best I don't) but here goes... Keep in mind that I am on no ones 'side' just a casual observer...

 

Isn't this a place where we can say anything? Aren't our individual opinions unique enough for all of us to come back, again and again?

 

I understand and agree that we shoul have a certain level of respect for other posters, and name calling is certainly not a way to show respect, however, Well Hung did not reply to a post...he started his own originally, and then defended his point of view.

 

Even if none of us agreed to his point of view, he is still entitled to have it, and share it on the post he started.

 

I re-read this thread a few times, and out of curiosity, how is what he is saying... in the tone he says it, different than the tone we often bash married men?

 

Maybe we take offense to what he says, so what? As you have the right to discuss your opinions he has the right to discuss his. And we don't have to reply to his posts...

 

'If you don't have anything nice to say... don't say anything at all'

 

Name calling is not acceptable in any circumstance!

 

Can anyone say cock fight?

[Spoomonkey 421]

Isn't this a place where we can say anything?

 

Yes indeed...

 

And as you can see, we have

 

Mr Hung has, to his credit, not fired back. I respect that. I question his position of judgement over single males, considering that he claims to be a man-whore.

 

If his claims are true, something that can hardly be proven, so is fair to be called questionable (no different than me saying that I can tie my penis around my ankles and bungy with it), then he is simply not in the shoes of the single men who use these boards or the other adult services. And further, the women that he is dealing with are not at all like the women on this board - or the average woman in the swinging world...

 

My wife does not need to - nor would she ever consider paying a man for sex.

 

He is telling men how to act - that is his broad point. The problem is, by his own admission, he is not a swinger - he is a prostitute.

 

I respect the fact that he has handled much criticism with less venom than other recent "men gone amuck" - and I think he may have a place here. But he would do well to learn from the real single men who are a part of this board and who are generally in high demand.

 

Just my thoughts on it...

[northindycpl 32]

Yes indeed...

 

And as you can see, we have

 

Mr Hung has, to his credit, not fired back. I respect that. I question his position of judgement over single males, considering that he claims to be a man-whore.

 

If his claims are true, something that can hardly be proven, so is fair to be called questionable (no different than me saying that I can tie my penis around my ankles and bungy with it), then he is simply not in the shoes of the single men who use these boards or the other adult services. And further, the women that he is dealing with are not at all like the women on this board - or the average woman in the swinging world...

 

My wife does not need to - nor would she ever consider paying a man for sex.

 

He is telling men how to act - that is his broad point. The problem is, by his own admission, he is not a swinger - he is a prostitute.

 

I respect the fact that he has handled much criticism with less venom than other recent "men gone amuck" - and I think he may have a place here. But he would do well to learn from the real single men who are a part of this board and who are generally in high demand.

 

Just my thoughts on it...

 

 

How did I know you were going to respond?

 

Good points.

[Dave_kat 227]

Dave was born and raised in H-Town, and learned to keep his mouth shut. While we both agree that his original comment was a bit nasty, but had some merits, the later ones should be more of a TMI.

 

It phases us little that he get's tokens for sex. While we know that will so very rarely lead to any kind of meaningful relationship, he'll figure it out (hopefully before he gets seriously burned).

 

What bothers us is the casual attitude he displays towards letting it be known that he's got all these notches in that belt (and the bedpost, and wherever). In a world of discretion, that's almost like jumping up and yelling that he's one, and then turning around and pointing out others and others.

 

Just a side note, whatever happened to the good ole Southern Gentleman who kisses but doesn't tell?

[gentletexan 15]

Okay folks, I need some educating. Why is Wunghungdue a troll ? Isn't a troll someone who starts an inflamatory thread then is never heard from again ? Wunhungdude has come back to respond to the other posts again and again. Northindycpl even said as much "he started his own thread originally and then defended his point of view".

 

Also at the beginning of the thread long time forum members like Alura, Jncc, Vegaslee, and Spoomonkey even agreed with what Wunhungdude was saying. Until the getting paid part showed up.

 

So curousagain and growgirl do you still think Wunhungdude created this thread just get a rise out of the forum, or does he still have a point ?

 

Wunhungdue come clean !!! if you are for real say so !!! are you a Troll ??

 

Gentletexan (not defending Wunhungdude...well maybe a little he's a fellow Texan after all).

[Alura 2,775]

Personally, I was struck from the beginning of Wunhungdude's posts that both his style of writing and his attitude were too similar to another character, DevilsAdvokat, who hung around here creating strife among members until Julie banned his arrogant ass.

 

As I said early on, I agreed basically with Wunhungdude's philosophy if not his delivery. It is the responsibility of us all to avoid endangering other board members. If one can't post without insulting, he really needs to be on another website where there is a certain amount of status reserved for the one who can most subtlety insult while disagreeing.

 

Good manners are what set the SwingersBoard apart from our lesser pretenders.

[EternallySingle 32]

I don't know if Wunhungdude is a troll or not. He's in Texas, I'm in Michigan. So even hanging out and exchanging war stories is probably not going to happen, unless I get accepted in this training program for repairing medical equipment next April. Even then, I'm probably old enough to be his father's little brother, so... IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK of him (sorry, watched a dvd of Wrestlemania 18 last night...gotta love the Rock). I just posted my opinion of what he said. Some of it was good, but it really was just common sense stuff (to me, anyway). The other reminded me about a part of my life I've put behind me, except to warn other young men about what will happen if they try to make it a way of life. Been there, done that, and have three scars that are finally fading on my chest for my trouble.

 

By the way, I saw a cartoon on xXxtasy (a porn channel on C-Band satellite) of a cock fight. I got queasy everytime I had to ... well, you know ... for a week after that.

[growgirl 15]

oh no, gentletexan, a troll doesn't always disappear... in fact, the majority of the good ones stick around and stir the pot frequently. The initial posting is always inflammatory and then the succeeding ones usually insult responders personally; case in point, his rant about JnCC's spelling...

 

wonlongdongdude fits my criteria for a troll to a "t". That and considering it's his/her "first" posting here...

 

He/She is entertaining though, and like a good troll, does bring up valid points, just presents them in an offensive way. I'm guessing it's a 16-20 year old male, educated but unemployed or underemployed, living at home with a computer in his room, too much time on his hands and nobody who really wants him around. He's more than likely the same troll that posed as an anti-breasteeding woman on one of my natural parenting boards.

[JnCC 24]

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and researched the word "gratuously" as I previously had not heard it before. Alas I find the word does not exist-at least in the Kings English. Were you by chance going for "GRATUITOUSLY"? If you were, that really does not make a lot of sense to me either.

I was going to let this one slide, "take the high road" as it were. But then I decided that the weekend was coming up and that this might be my last post for a couple days, and I thought, "Oh, what the hell..."

 

Wunhungdude, there are a lot of words in common usage that won't be found in The King's English. Take the word "Peckerhead," for example. It won't be found in any respectable dictionary, but if somebody calls you one (as perhaps they may have) you certainly know what they mean.

 

Did I spell that right? Please correct me if I didn't. I'd hate to go through life calling people names that I was spelling incorrectly.

 

Another such word is "Gratuous." On the one hand, it isn't to be found in OneLook Dictionary Search (http://www.onelook.com/?w=gratuous&ls=a) yet a quick Google Search turns up 67 references to it. So, maybe you know something the other 67 don't know...namely, that they're using a word that doesn't exist. Well, doesn't exist in the "Official Peckerhead Dictionary of the King's English" at least.

 

A SMARTER person would be slower to pass judgement, and more open to the idea that just because it is NOT POSSIBLE in your life that it does not mutually exclude someone else from being successful in a similar venture.

I never said it was impossible. What I said was that for all practical purposes, the actual number of heterosexual men who were "paid for their companionship" was so infinitesmally small that it was highly unlikely that they would be found posting in these forums. I would have said the same thing had you stated that you had walked on the moon or looped-the-loop in a helicopter. Yea, some guys have done it, but they're not posting in here...

 

There's a basic "reckoning" that occurs in all human relationships. That's true whether they involve a businessman who's paying $40 for a quickie blowjob on his way home, or a somewhat frumpy, middle-aged housewife who's offering easy, "no strings, no complications" sex to younger or more attractive men in a swing club. There is no free lunch for anybody. There is always a "balancing of equities" involved. If money is being exchanged as a consequence of the relationships you curently enjoy, it's a sure bet that it's because the women you see aren't bringing enough beauty, youth, intelligence, personality, or some other quality into the equasion. Basically, what it comes down to is this;

 

1) You can fuck people much like yourself, in which case there's no money involved.

 

2) You can fuck people younger and prettier than yourself, in which case, they're expecting to be paid, some how, some where, some way.

 

3) You can fuck people older and uglier than yourself, in which case you can expect to BE paid.

 

Whoever you fuck, or whatever your financial arrangements are with that person, you're no better qualified to speak of "what women want," than anybody else in here.

 

Now, if you want to offer some advice on how to pretend to be interested in what some old douchebag has to say about Corvair automobiles or Eisenhower's presidency, I'm all ears...

[Wunhungdude 15]

I must say I have enjoyed reading the replies to this point. If posting something on your boards that goes "against the grain", makes me a troll, so be it.

 

Let me clarify what I was initally posting about as my point seems to have been lost.

 

Initally, I was mildly bothered by the posts from single men in which it appeared that they were complaining about not being able to hook up with couples, or married women. Similar to homeless people which I have VERY LITTLE sympathy for, they have every opportunity to make a way for themselves, but instead, in my view, sit and complain about what they DON'T have. Have any of you guys ever read Who Moved My Cheese? All I could think about after crossing several of those types of posts was "hey! There's Him & Haw!".

 

As mentioned previously, I was experiencing a little stress about some completely unrelated issues, and made a poor decision and lashed out.

 

Again, thank you all for bearing with me and for allowing me to participate in your friendly forum.

 

Contrary to what has been posted, I didn't just come here to "stir up a mess". I just thought that for someone like myself who does not surf this type of site very often that it was apparent from the start that reading posts like that were a turn-off to me. Think about other visitors who have an interest in learning about the lifestyle and what type of impression they might gather if they constantly see posts wherein the singles are whinging and crying. I think the site would be better represented if those types of posts were not so frequent.

 

In the end, I hope some people were able to look past the negative aspects and take something positive away from this shipwreck.

 

For the record, I am 36 years old, well educated, and hold a professional position. No, I don't live with mommy & daddy, but I do own the house they live in...

[VegasLee 1,486]

Ok, In no defense of anyone here that is posting and gets paid for sex I would like to state a fact that has amazed me for years here in Vegas.

 

I help manage one of the busiest swing clubs in Vegas and willing to bet most anywhere. We see one thousand people each week, couples and singles. I also don't miss any Lifestyles convention in Vegas that normally has four thousand or more people at it.

 

Since Laura and I live in Vegas there is not a week that goes by that we don't get asked by Couples that are swingers where they can find a "working lady" here in Vegas. Sometimes it will be a single man but most of the time it is couples that go to swing clubs all the time.

 

(note, paying for sex is NOT legal in Las Vegas)

 

Now I have been in the lifestyle (swinger) for over twenty years +++++ To this day I do not understand why swinging couples want to pay someone to have sex with them.

 

Since many here seem to have very strong feelings on this subject can someone take a shot at explaining this one to me?

[curiousagain 326]

There is no denying much of the OP is true. But, it is obviously written by someone who is part of a wife swapping couple.

 

It is obvious from the OP words and terminology that he sees his wife the same as he does his car or other expensive toy. It/she is property and "you can only ride mine if I can ride yours" is his mentality whether it is an inanimate or animate posession of his.

 

The last two paragraphs have much good in them but are negated by the obviousness of the poster's ulterior motives and thoughts displayed in the first paragraph.

 

edited for spelling: If my fingers could only keep up with my thoughts.

 

Gentletexan: I didn't disagree with everything Dude said. I did disagree with his attitude towards women. As you can see from my original reply, I too agreed with much he said, just not everything and not in the way he said it. And then after asking if there was room for forgiveness on here, he blasted back at some people. He is the one that posted the original inflammatory post. You can run into a crowd and start slapping people and not expect to get slapped back!!! I think this is a pretty open forum, but if you start throwing tomatoes, don't be wearing your good clothes, cause it'll come right back at you.

[curiousagain 326]

Vegaslee, I have often heard that a prostitute doesn't get paid to have sex. She gets paid to leave after the sex. Maybe some couples are more comfortable with that or don't have the patience to seek out the perfect "single swinging bi_female"

[gentletexan 15]

Curiousagain, I understand what you're saying - when posting follow the golden rule.

 

Say y'all Wunhungdude has made a conciliatory post, so what do you say if we put the sniping, flaming, and character assassination behind us. Although I must admit it does make for some interesting reading.

 

Wunhungdude, I just saw your post about wanting to meet, so sorry didn't mean to ignore it.

 

Say, by any chance do you live inside the loop or around the Galleria. All those places you mentioned are either on Westheimer or off 610 (sorry folks for making references regarding the local geography). I drive by Uptown Sushi off 610 almost every day. Sullivans is on Westheimer right ?

 

Sure I'll like to meet ya ! BTW what does slim pickings mean about Sullivans? We are talking about the food right ?

[Alura 2,775]

Wunhungdude wrote:

 

If posting something on your boards that goes "against the grain", makes me a troll, so be it.

 

Again, Dude, it was not what you wrote, but the way you wrote it. Your first post was condescending and arrogant. The long-time posters and monitors on this board are quick to squelch posts like that because experience has taught us that such an attitude causes friction. Worse, it causes many of our valuable poster to avoid writing their opinions for fear of similar attacks. If we wish, and we do, to keep this board the high-caliber and friendly place that it is, we have to keep such attitudes at bay. Fortunately, we're good at that which is the reason this board has remained the best of its kind.

 

You're a good writer with some intelligence, the kind of folks we like to have involved here. If you understand our high standards and want to abide by them, you're more than welcome to add your input.

[Alura 2,775]

Wunhungdude wrote:

 

As mentioned previously, I was experiencing a little stress about some completely unrelated issues, and made a poor decision and lashed out.

 

No problem, Dude. We all live and learn, yourself seemingly more quickly than others we've dealt with. Apology accepted on my part.

 

Again, thank you all for bearing with me and for allowing me to participate in your friendly forum.

 

Welcome from Oklahoma, Dude! We're always glad to have our Texas neighbors join us. Please continue to add your valuable input.

 

Mr. Alura

[EternallySingle 32]

Ok, In no defense of anyone here that is posting and gets paid for sex I would like to state a fact that has amazed me for years here in Vegas.

 

I help manage one of the busiest swing clubs in Vegas and willing to bet most anywhere. We see one thousand people each week, couples and singles. I also don't miss any Lifestyles convention in Vegas that normally has four thousand or more people at it.

 

Since Laura and I live in Vegas there is not a week that goes by that we don't get asked by Couples that are swingers where they can find a "working lady" here in Vegas. Sometimes it will be a single man but most of the time it is couples that go to swing clubs all the time.

 

(note, paying for sex is NOT legal in Las Vegas)

 

Now I have been in the lifestyle (swinger) for over twenty years +++++ To this day I do not understand why swinging couples want to pay someone to have sex with them.

 

Since many here seem to have very strong feelings on this subject can someone take a shot at explaining this one to me?

 

I think it has to do with the possibility of an emotional attachment. Someone you pick up in a bar, whether a sports bar, dance hall, or swing club, is more likely to feel some kind of attraction towards you, which can lead to feelings of affection. Someone you pay is there to perform a job and leave. Its really possible that a lot of times its the woman pushing for the Pro, because she feels the Pro will only be in it for the money, and will do what they ask to get paid and won't ask for much in return. This will work because there's little chance of a friendship developing, meaning the couple can effectively eliminate the need to form any kind of rapport that may damage the relationship. Its probably one of the reason some wives can more easily forgive a husband who frequents a prostitute but not one that has a romantic but non-sexual relationship with another woman.

[spidery6 15]

The original context of this was to berate the single guys who complain about not being able to find partners - on that point, I definitely agree.

 

Problem is - most of the complainers don't know how or where to look effectively. They don't know how to approach someone, how to open a conversation, how to continue a conversation, how to read body language, how to take "no". And this applies whether it is online, in a bar or a club.

 

Therefore, they pay for the privilege of having company.

 

Could it be that too many guys learned 'relationships 101' from a porno?

[smitty888 15]

I am new to this site and, yes, intend to spend some time here. However, not every single male that spends time here is soliciting, begging, crying, or praying for some horny couple to swoop down from above and jerk them from in front of their computer screen for a night of "wife tag". There are actually those individuals who instead of going into a club and being offensive, be it intentional or otherwise, would rather spend some time learning what the lifestyle is all about. Of course, it would be better for a single male to 'go where the swingers' are. I do, however, believe that going into a swinger's club without at least attempting to learn about the lifestyle is like going into another country without attempting to learn their customs - you are bound to do something you probably shouldn't. That's is why some single males are here. And who knows, maybe along the way, a they may may get lucky enough to meet that person that will eventually open the door for them - and maybe not. But in either case, it is not a complete waste of time.

[Spoomonkey 421]

But in either case, it is not a complete waste of time.

 

And this attitude will take you far, grasshopper

 

Now I'm even more glad to have you here!