Want wife to do gangbang, what if she gets pregnant?

[Sex Wonderer 19]

Hi everyone, I'm new here, and never experienced swinging. I really want to try it out though, so that my wife could have sex with 3 or 4 men at once. I would like to go into her after other guys deposit their cum inside her. I don't want them to wear condoms!

 

Reading through the posts here, I want to try to be the sloppy second, or even third, or fourth...

 

The question is, if she does not want to take pills to avoid pregnancy, what would you guys do, if you face the situation where she got pregnant?

 

I'm sorry if there are other posts like this one, but I would really like to know

[corkwan 20]

You're going to need some birth control, somehow. taking chances like that would be not only risky to yourselves, but also to your partners. If you didn't tell them she had no birth control, then it would be rather deceptive.

 

There are plenty of other birth control options, e.g, diaphram, sponge, etc, which are relatively effective. of course, none are going to prevent the spread of disease, so you'd need to choose your partners carefully. Here is a pretty comprehensive list : https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control

 

Sometimes, a fantasy is best left a fantasy. If you're making it a reality, make sure you check the consequences REALLY CAREFULLY before you leap over the edge. If she got pregnant, would you both(!) be comfortable with an abortion, or alternatively, fathering a child who is not your own?

[Sex Wonderer 19]

Maybe this might sound weird, but my wife doesn't want to take birth control pills. She wants all of us to cum inside her. I don't mind other guys having sex with her, and having their cums inside her. But regarding her being pregnant with other guy's child, I hope it wont happen that way.

She just laughed if I asked her to take birth control pills, saying that she wants only the best sperm to become her child. I guess she must have read it somewhere when she told me that german tribes have their wives shared so that the wives could produce the best offsprings.

This might sound a bit weird, and I don't know whether she's just joking or not. But I do know that she doesn't want to take the pills (for whatever reason), and she does want all of the guys to cum inside her.

I love her so much. I wonder, how many of you guys out there don't mind fathering other guy's child? I must admit that i hope it won't come to that situation, but I do love her very much, and if that does happen, I don't know what I should do.

[corkwan 20]

My wife doesn't like to use the pill either. For some women artificial hormones screw too much with their moods.

You can look at the natural methods of birth control (periodic abstinence — fertility awareness-based methods) I posted, but of course, the woman is usually most sexually excited when she is ovulating. Another option is to find men who have had a vasectomy and are not longer fertile. Or that your wife gets her tubes tied, etc.

I can understand the fantasy. For some women, sperm is like a reward, and feeling it inside them really turns them on. My wife gets very hot when we have sex and there is a risk of pregnancy. But i don't think I'd do that with a stranger. Anyway, is it the risk of pregnancy which turns her on, or the feeling of men cumming inside her. If it is the latter, then there are options you can explore (see the link).

You've got to deal with the consequences, so, if that is the fantasy you should have a good think about your options and the consequences before hand.

[Sex Wonderer 19]

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anyway, is it the risk of pregnancy which turns her on, or the feeling of men cumming inside her

 

I think it is both. What I didn't tell was that she really wants to have a baby. We've been married only recently, and if she does become pregnant.. well... I guess that's the risk I have to take... I love her, and I think that's the most important thing. I don't know about the future, but I know that now, I'll please her with every way I can.

 

Anyone here who allow other guys to cum inside their wives, and she got pregnant with a child other than your own? Please, I just want to know how you guys (if any) handle it.

[WesternSwing 504]

I don't think your fantasy is uncommon, however it poses several risks. First of course is the pregnancy you mention. The best method is the pill or the patch. There are diaphrams and IUD's and others, but I understand their effectiveness isn't as good as the pill or patch.

 

The last thing you want it to bring another man's child into the world in your relationship. I would think this would not only weigh heavy on the marriage itself over time, but it would be really unfair to the child. If you never told the child you'd be lying your whole life, and if you did, what you you say? "Well, it's like this. Mom had sex with four guys at once and you were the result. We don't really know who your daddy is."

 

Then there is the disease factor. With just herpes they say that 40% of adults have it. Four guys, good chance two are gonna have it. And not one is gonna admit to it when he thinks he's gonna be in on a gang bang of your wife (or any other STD for that matter).

 

You're better-off using condoms and playing it safe. For your wife and for yourself.

[Sex Wonderer 19]

WS, in terms of disease, I strongly agree that its better be safe than sorry. But, assuming the health factor is safeguarded, would you guys mind if your wife bears another guy's child? Has anyone here face such situation?

[highlander 21]

Sex Wonderer said:

WS, in terms of disease, I strongly agree that its better be safe than sorry. But, assuming the health factor is safeguarded, would you guys mind if your wife bears another guy's child? Has anyone here face such situation?

 

One out of three married women have at least one child that is not their husbands - but most of those men are in denial of it. Actually men who are suspicious are no more likely to have such a child than men that aren't.

 

The only way really to know is to get your kids paternity tested(it isn't that expensive).

 

It actually wouldn't surprise me if folks that swing have a lower rate of children that aren't the husband's than the general population.

 

Personally, I wouldn't want to raise a child that isn't mine unless it were the child of a VERY good friend(say if he died),a relative or possibly someone that had done something really heroic and noble according to my values.

 

That said, I think swinging is going to change a lot with cheap paternity tests and the emerging of HIV tests that are better than condoms.

[WildMiCouple 325]

highlander said:

One out of three married women have at least one child that is not their husbands - but most of those men are in denial of it.......

 

Not to hijack a thread......but where in the heck did you get that statistic? Sounds way to high to me

 

Brett (and Tammy)

[WesternSwing 504]

Sex Wonderer said:

WS, in terms of disease, I strongly agree that its better be safe than sorry. But, assuming the health factor is safeguarded, would you guys mind if your wife bears another guy's child? Has anyone here face such situation?

Um, yeah. We would. Child bearing is between us. I have a step-daughter I've raised since she was three, she's now eleven. I'm the only dad she has ever known. But, I went into this relationship with the understanding that I would be raising another man's child, as Mrs. WS did knowing she would be raising my daughter from a previous marriage. This is normal second marriage stuff. BUT, and this is the big BUT, this is not my wife getting pregnant in a gangbang. This is not bringing a child into this world under the cloak of deception to both the father and the child. This is an ethical issue.

 

If you want a gangbang without using condoms, if having numerous men cum in your wife turns her and you on, good. But don't make a child the unwitting victim of your fantasy.

 

That is my opinion.

[WesternSwing 504]

WildMiCouple said:

higlander said:

One out of three married women have at least one child that is not their husbands-but most of those men are in denial of it. Actually men who are suspicious are no more likely to have such a child than men that aren't.

Not to hijack a thread......but where in the heck did you get that statistic? Sounds way to high to me

 

Brett (and Tammy)

Doing some Googling I found an article on the UK Men's Movement website that states "At least one in 10 children was not sired by the man who believes he is their father" and a quote from the director of one of the seven government approved paternity laboratories says "in about one case in seven, the presumed father turns out to be the wrong man."

 

The article doesn't mention the percentage of those that are married women who are cheating or single women with multiple partners.

 

Clicking on several links reveals the same 1 in 10 ratio. Interestingly almost the articles are reported on men's rights websites about fighting paternity, they all reference the same articles, there are no links to the original article, and I can't quickly find the original article through Google.

 

Now, I did hear the 1 in 3 ratio somewhere at one time mentioned in regards to men returning from WWII in 1945 who's wife's had children while they were deployed.

[highlander 21]

Not to hijack a thread......but where in the heck did you get that statistic? Sounds way to high to me :rollseyes

 

Brett (and Tammy)

 

Robin Baker's execellent book "Sperm Wars" discusses this. Baker is a professor of reproductive physiology-and was interested among other things in the exact biology of what happens during a "gang bang". Turns out there are men who reproduce quite a bit better in a gang bang situation than others-and some of them down reproduce especially well _outside_ a gang bang situation. It has to do with the peculiar characteristics of their sperm.

 

Another book that talks about this is The Third Chimpanzee by Jared Diamond of UCLA. That book is more available-but isn't good IMHO as Bakers.

 

The rate of cuckoldry varies a _lot_ among different populations. The child most likely to be someone elses is the first-the least likely the second-but the trend goes up steadily as a woman ages. Basically a lot of women get pregnant by someone and then marry someone else.

 

My advice to the initiator of this thread: if you _do_ want to facilitate your wife's gang bang pregnancy fantasy, select the men that participate very, very carefully. If you really are planning to help raise this child as your own, you are granting these men an enormous honor. What kind of people do you really think the world needs more off? What is this guy really going to do for your family? Is getting your wife off really the biggest thing in the world? Keep in mind, raising a child is a 21 year plus investment. I have no doubt even if you were very up front, you would have _lots_ of takers-potential child support and all. Eskimos and other peoples that do this stuff regularly really do have rules about how this stuff is done.

 

As far as guys, if you don't want to pay child support, quit whining and either:

1) get a vasectomy

2) be very, very careful who you fuck-and under what circimstances

[Chicup 41]

Am I the only one vaguely horrified by this thread?

[highlander 21]

I don't think your fantasy is uncommon,

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The last thing you want it to bring another man's child into the world in your relationship.

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Then there is the disease factor. With just herpes they say that 40% of adults have it. Four guys, good chance two are gonna have it.

I think it is a common fantasy in part because a lot of tribal cultures actually do this sort of thing to get the young men to identify with the tribe. Now, they have _rules_ around it-like the child conceived this way is unlikely to be the heir of the husband for example.

 

Now, I can conceive of reasons why someone might want to do this. What if someone auctioned on E-bay a chance to participate in a gang bang in which the woman was likely to become pregnant. What would the "fair market" price of that be? I think a kid in the US costs about $800,000 to raise-figure $500,000 if someone was paying up front-or $125,000 for each of 4 guys. The poster is in Asia-things are a bit different there. I'm not meaning to be crass and commercial, but there are guys that just might look the other way while someone impregnates their wife. John Majors who was prime minister in the UK for example has a child with the wife of a very wealthy Arab(who knew dang well what was going on and pointedly never brought it up to his wife according to an interview with her after her husband died). I aways thought Cher's daughter Chastity looked a lot more like her manager than Sonny(i.e. what some folks will do for a record deal....).

 

The odds of _none_ of the guys having herpes is 1/8(unless you test them--that is .6*.6*.6*.6). Actually, I think it would be lower because the types of guys likely to participate in a condom free gang bang aren't exactly the general population. Now the odds of the lady geting herpes from this encounter is less than that, because it isn't a 100% contagious disease.

[RnLinohio 17]

Chicup said:

Am I the only one vaguely horrified by this thread?

No you are not the only one.

[highlander 21]

Here is a quote from the review. I'd have to look, but I don't think that 10% figure is the highest estimate.

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465081800/103-0365011-3097474?v=glance

 

"If you've ever looked upon sperm as a little army of white-coated soldiers setting off to sack and pillage a barely pregnable fortress . . . well, you'd be right, according to this fascinating new book. Dr. Robin Baker, who has studied sperm and cervical mucus in much greater detail than anyone would've thought necessary, has come to some startling conclusions: that less than 1 percent of sperm is actually designed to fertilize an egg (the rest are there to block other men's sperm), and that 4 to 10 percent of all children born to married couples are in fact the offspring of other men, usually of higher socioeconomic status, with whom the mother had a short-term relationship."

 

I honestly think that if an attractive, younger woman placed a personals ad looking for a husband with the condition that something during the marriage, she would conceive a child via a gang bang, she would have a substantial number of takers. I'm not saying that this is a good idea. I'm just saying that is how much latitude she would have in the present situation.

[Rombi's Girl 15]

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Originally Posted by Chicup

Am I the only one vaguely horrified by this thread?

 

Dito All I can say is bless their hearts. As for me, I'd want to know which man fathered my children, and I'd like all my children to be fathered by the same man.

[InterestingOnes 16]

A father is the man who raises a child, not the man who impregnates a woman.

[bunnyrabbits 17]

I concur with interesting.

 

So, here's my story. When I married my wife, she had an 18 month old daughter. About a year later, I adopted her. I love her very much and I am the only daddy that she has ever known.

 

Here comes the interesting part. About 6 years ago, my wife and I were doing the occassional threesome, MFM. And, she would go out with her boyfriend on her own at times. She was not on the pill at the time. We talked about the possibility of pregnancy and I wanted here to use some sort of BC. The boyfriend refused to use condoms and to make a long story short, she had his baby. This was very hard on me at first. But after he arrived, I really and truly began to love him. The biological father never had anything to do with him and we never asked him for anything. Our son is a very happy little boy.

 

I would not recommend this for anyone. But, if you are swinging and not permanently fixed, you must be prepared for the consequences.

[curiousagain 326]

RnLinohio said:

No you are not the only one.

 

Ditto!!

 

BTW, I did recently read a study (not on the internet, in health care literature) that stated in testing done in several large cities across the US the rate of the husband not being the Father averaged 20% with some cities running one third. These test were done without the knowledge of either parent using blood from routine blood samples. The study did not mention any categories by first, second, etc. child or socioeconomic class, race, anything. This was overall.

[Sex Wonderer 19]

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A father is the man who raises a child, not the man who impregnates a woman

I feel the same way.

 

Bunny, when you said your wife wasn't on pill at that time, and you heard that her boyfriend refused to use condoms, you have taken into account the possibility of her getting pregnant with her boyfriend's child as well.

 

Despite all that, you still allowed her to have sex with him. and for that, I think it is honourable to be able to let your wife experience sex with other guys, allowing her to be pleasured by others, and also to raise and love the child she has in the process.

 

I'm not sure if there's a lot of others like you, but I share the same view, believing that love and sex are 2 different things. She can have sex with anyone she likes, and I would still love her. I love her so much that I don't mind if she gets pregnant with other guy's offspring. BECAUSE the mother of that child is my wife.

[BiNWAR 15]

Ok, I'm probably going to get hit because of what I'm about to say, but who cares.

 

Swinging is about being responsible to yourself, your partner and the people you choose to be with. Having sex with someone without protection is just plain idiotic and stupid....hello can we say STDs, how about HIV?? 3 little letters and a lifetime of agony.

 

If the person I was with, whether is was my partner in life or a sex partner, didn't want to play it safe I would have to ask myself if they were safe for me!

 

Cream Pies are a huge turn=on for me in all honestly and for my hubby also...would we love to do one,but will we? Hell no not with someone we don't know...there is no way.

 

As for predominancy... I'm fixed, hubby isn't. I don't want him getting someone other women knocked up.

 

For one thing he is a very responsible adult, which means he would feel and obligation to take care of the child whether her hubby/partner wanted him to or not in his eyes that is his child not the other guys and 2) Purely selfish on my part, but we have 4 boys of our own that he needs to support not some offspring from a tumble, and 3) These are children that deserve to be brought into the world in a safe and loving environment...can you image what a child would feel like if he was told that he was a product of a swinging.

 

So that is my soapbox feel free to knock me off. I understand everyone is different in their beliefs and actions...

 

Heather

[Alura 2,774]

I'm just a hick Okie, Sex Wonderer, but if I were faced with your problem, I'd get her pregnant first, then go swinging.

 

Mr. Alura

[biblonde 22]

NO WAY IN HELL would I risk getting prego by that many men!!! And not useing anything just because it sounds fun??? WTF...The risks are just way to high for us. And I know hubby would never want me pregnent by another man. We have had many talks about this and I went back on the pill when we got into this lifestyle just incase a condom broke. Pleasing your wife in this way is just setting yourself up for lots of hurt!!! and what if you catch something besides getting pregnent or both??? Then what. Is it really worth the risk? NOT IN THIS HOUSE!! but to each their own. I think it is an awful idea but then again that is just my opinion.

[highlander 21]

BTW, I did recently read a study (not on the internet, in health care literature) that stated in testing done in several large cities across the US the rate of the husband not being the Father averaged 20% with some cities running one third. These test were done without the knowledge of either parent using blood from routine blood samples. The study did not mention any categories by first, second, etc. child or socioeconomic class, race, anything. This was overall.

 

That sounds about right. This is much more common in cities that in rural areas. The fathers are largely managers/business owners, cops, judges, ministers and doctors.

[highlander 21]

BiNWAR said:

Having sex with someone without protection is just plain idiotic and stupid....hello can we say STDs, how about HIV?? 3 little letters and a lifetime of agony

 

The thing is with the newer tests (That are mainly available now in San Francisco and North Carolina), called NAAT, the safety factor from being tested is at least as good as what condoms provide by themselves(the newer tests can spot infection after 10 days vs. 6 months).

 

Now, I _still_ wouldn't suggest doing cream pies with guys selected at random from the internet even if they were tested, but I'm just trying to put this into perspective.

[Jimsfuckstory 4]

I used to share my ex-wife, (she's my ex because of other reasons not her riding other men). The guys would cum in her and one guy in particular would have sex with her quite a bit. No contraception at all. I would do her after. She got pregnant with our second daughter and the time frame could possibly have been his but I have no idea don't care and never checked. It's my daughter period.

[couplers 4,615]

On 1/23/2023 at 1:31 PM, Jimsfuckstory said:

The guys would cum in her and one guy in particular would have sex with her quite a bit. No contraception at all. I would do her after. She got pregnant with our second daughter and the time frame could possibly have been his but I have no idea don't care and never checked. It's my daughter period.

People raise stepchildren, have artificial insemination, adopt.  I see nothing wrong with this approach.  You love your daughter and that's all that matters. 

[ROCKlandCpl 451]

Our swinging started after my childbearing years because it freed us from that fear of getting pregnant even with protection. For us if a miracle happened like getting pregnant at this point we would not go through with it. With pregnancy not in question other health fears are more on point for us as we don’t use protection which others might say is stupid. 

[bbarnsworth 2,637]

(I realize this is an exceptionally old thread, recently revisited)

 

It's exceptionally rare that I disagree with Couplers, but...

 

I would never, ever, ever, in a million years engage in swinging sex with a woman with a significant chance of getting her pregnant, or likewise a man to do so with my wife. Ok sure, your wife gets pregnant, she has the child, you raise the child as your own. Doesn't sound too problematic, does it? Except, it is. Consider;

• The child won't be certain of half of their parental medical background. This could cause problems later in life.
• The child might harbor lingering concerns their dad is not their dad, and the dad might not ever know their concerns.
• The child might some day get a DNA test. What if the parents are no longer among the living? Questions arise that will never have answers.
• Same concern; what if the parents are still alive and they ask? Now the child will know their father was a random fuck for their mom.

For me, this is just the beginning of the potential problems. I won't inflict that on an innocent child-to-be. My wife and I have always taken strong measures to ensure we don't get pregnant and don't get others pregnant.

[couplers 4,615]

 

12 hours ago, bbarnsworth said:

It's exceptionally rare that I disagree with Couplers, but...

I'm glad that you did.  I reacted in haste, particularly to the statements:

  

On 6/18/2005 at 8:09 AM, Sex Wonderer said:

... my wife doesn't want to take birth control pills. She wants all of us to cum inside her. ... she wants only the best sperm to become her child. I guess she must have read it somewhere when she told me that german tribes have their wives shared so that the wives could produce the best offsprings.

OK, if you want to feel the men ejaculate, I can understand that; some women don't want to or can't take hormonal contraceptives.  But sex has its fundamental purpose of creating new humans, so take responsibility for that.  There are IUDs and diaphragms.

 

But this situation (if true) goes further beyond that.  She has a desire to set up a competition among the men to get her pregnant with the thought that she will conceive the most robust child.  I don't think it works that way.  What she will get is the fastest, luckiest swimmer.

 

So it is a conflict between the husband and wife over the paternity of the child she plans to have, and apparently he doesn't want to go along with this plan, and I agree, but for a different reason.  An article I read long ago said that upper middle class couples adopting children are often frustrated when they adopt a child from a disadvantaged background because sometimes the child doesn't grow up to meet their expectations.  Despite the best schools, a stable family, etc., trouble arises.  The article pointed out that a child's overall development in intelligence, disposition is half environment and half genetics.  The adoptive parents can give him or her the environment, but not the genetics which they do share with their parents, siblings, grandparents and have set their expectations for a child's development.

 

If they decided to chance a bareback gangbang (I can't believe I'm writing these words) and don't want to conceive, then use an IUD, diaphragm, or plan it during her non-fertile period.  If she gets pregnant despite precautions, then consider an abortion.  If you decide to have the child, then I stick with what I said above.  There are many children who turn out well growing up in an adoptive home with the adoptive parents and the child not knowing their parental provenance.

 

Although nowhere nearly the same, our poly family started when Clair became pregnant by my husband (she wasn't having sex with Red at the time), which was totally unexpected and unplanned because she was on birth control at the time.  Our relationship was only beginning, and Clair offered to abort so as not to upset our nascent relationship.  Instead, I pushed hubby and Red that I get pregnant as well so Clair and I could go through it all together.  I went off birth control and over the next two months hubby and Red did it "pot luck" so I could get pregnant as quickly as possible.  It was the best decision ever.  (Reciting this, it does give me a little sense of what this guy's wife is talking about; it was an amazing feeling having two men trying to conceive with me.  But keep in mind, both knew, supported the situation of what Clair and I were doing, and either man would be a responsible father just by himself, but Clair and I have the support of both.)

 

On the other hand, if one of us conceived a terribly defective fetus or were raped, we would abort without hesitation.

 

We are lucky to live in these modern times where the joy or sex can be separated from reproduction.  Use those tools wisely.

Edited March 25, 2023 by couplers

[Ed23 32]

7 hours ago, couplers said:

OK, if you want to feel the men ejaculate

Is this possible (not the contractions/pulsations)? 

[couplers 4,615]

14 hours ago, Ed23 said:

Is this possible (not the contractions/pulsations)? 

Definitely. 

[ChristianSwinging 59]

For us as a loving couple who also have intercourse with other men and simply love having sex naturally and without a condom, it is natural that we keep and raise a child, regardless of the man it is from.
We know the men and we love it with them.
Why should we suddenly reject a child who is from a man who had the permission to cum into her?

Just because it's not mine? 
That would be absolutely ridiculous and a low blow to all the men we associate with.

What kind of man would I be if I didn't raise it together with her as a gift of our lustful pleasure with others and the deep love between us.