SnsualPrsuasion 15 Posted November 1, 2005 We have a fun night coming up soon & my deal is this: We have no kissing boundaries, for both of us it is part of the turn on of the whole swinging thing. We feel like it is more erotic, and actually feel kind of funny if there's no kissing involved w/the other couple. (Doesn't mean we're knocking it, it's just not our preference) Our cpl interest is something we haven't run into before, he likes to kiss, she doesn't (FF is okay, but she doesn't kiss the other male) I realize ppl have boundaries, however, considering we don't have any on that issue, should I not kiss him just because she'd prefer not kissing my hubby? (I plan on talking to DH about it, just would like general feedback from y'all...) I don't NEED the kissing to feel the pleasure, but it's a definite PLUS to the whole experience. Or should I just keep that out of it so hubby doesn't feel left out? (He did say, teasingly, that if he doesn't get to kiss, then neither do I, hence we're going to be talking about it for sure before it happens....but have any of you run into this?) Quote Share this post Link to post
JustAskJulie 2,595 Posted November 1, 2005 Ok, let me see if I got this straight.... You guys are both ok with kissing and prefer it. The couple you are meeting with, the male is ok with kissing but the female is not (unless it's another woman)? Is that right? I would wonder why their boundaries are this way? Is it a choice on her part? Or does seeing her kiss another man make him jealous? I am with you, I'd have a really difficult time playing with a couple who wasn't totally ok with kissing, as you say it's just part of it, so having to avoid it would put a damper on things and knowing me, I'd probably screw up and not even thinking about it attempt to kiss someone (I'd never make a good hooker). I'd definately want to know the answers to the above (their reasons why) before I did anything with them. If it's a jealousy issue on his part, I'd probably avoid playing with them altogether for fear of other issues popping up. If it's just her thing (that she doesn't like kissing other guys) then I'd sit down and have a discussion with them and establish what the group rules will be to everyone's satisfaction before proceeding. Quote Share this post Link to post
SnsualPrsuasion 15 Posted November 1, 2005 You had it right. We prefer kissing, the male half of this couple does as well, but she only kisses the female. It's not a jealousy issue, it's her personal preference. I have a feeling it's due to the fact that they've had a lot of FMF play, but limited full swap...but still...her choice. I guess my real question is does it come up often, & how do people deal with it, and also is it wrong for me to kiss him when hubby won't be getting the same treatment or should we just keep kissing out altogether. We'll def. be talking to them before getting together & it will be discussed....just wanted the feedback. Thanks! ~Mrs. Snsual~ Quote Share this post Link to post
twoplayful2 16 Posted November 1, 2005 We've been there, very recently in fact. Both of us are very into kissing, the other guy was as well, the other girl was not. Dunno if it's a general preference or she's just not into kissing me. For us it's not so important that we ask about it in advance, but it is important enough that we won't repeat with anyone with such a rule. And if it starts to happen too much then it just might become important enough for a pre-play rule. With this particular couple it didn't really matter, kissing was just one of several things we weren't really clicking on so we weren't going to be getting back together with them anyway. But if you're both into kissing as part of the action, why settle for a couple that isn't (both) into it? And speaking from the guys perspective, I don't really like my wife and him kissing not because I don't want her to get what I'm not getting but I don't want him to get what I'm not getting. Sure it sounds a little childish, sour grapes, whatever, but we like to play where we both feel good about things after. If the situation were reversed (though the few times it's happened it's always the girl with the kissing issue...no, my breath isn't bad! ) I would feel exactly the same way, as would she. Quote Share this post Link to post
Jamie&Kieth 36 Posted November 1, 2005 Well, here is my 4 cents ... must admit I really enjoy kissing both women and men. Never really been in a situation where kissing is not allowed or only kissing the woman or man. But to me part of sex is kissing, kind of like ketchup (and/or mustard) with a hot dog. For the two of you it seems whether or not you can accept the situation, if it's ok with you guys then go for it. All lot of it could also be the comfort level,. One couple who we swing with just could not accept the thought of "eating out" a girl after he came in her, she at the same time thought that was disgusting (she would not swallow but enjoyed watching others). After watching others in our group swallow & eating each other out after cumming ... they finally did it. Now they are comfortable and have no inhibitions except for anal licking which naturally takes some acceptance. Well here is my opinion ... go for it, if your'e not comfortable with them, hey it's their loss. see ya Jamie Quote Share this post Link to post
northindycpl 32 Posted November 1, 2005 Well, I find this interesting! We are a NON-kissing couple. It has always been our rule and it has never been a problem, from our standpoint. (Reading your post tho, makes me wonder if I am just oblivious) Our rule was made as a personal preferance, and it has nothing to do with jealousy. I will also tell you that it has something to do with both of us being smokers and most of our playmates are not. That, too, makes me feel less then confidant in kissing others. We do not want to passionately kiss others. Playful kissing is ok. We explain this rule first and if there is any hesitation with the other couple, then it is a no go. Chances are the couple is going to be aware of the rule more than you. We have couples forget a lot and it is no big deal to us- as it is our rule not theirs. It is a matter of a playful reminder to them. After awhile, they remember and it is fine. Now kissing on the lips is the only thing that is out.... kissing other places is just fine Quote Share this post Link to post
good times 991 Posted November 2, 2005 We have run into a few couples with the no kissing rule and for us it is a no go. The reason for this is that I don't think I could relax and get into it when somebody has a rule like this. I would spend the whole time concentrating on not breaking their rule instead of just doing what comes naturally and having fun. Quote Share this post Link to post
northindycpl 32 Posted November 2, 2005 We have run into a few couples with the no kissing rule and for us it is a no go. The reason for this is that I don't think I could relax and get into it when somebody has a rule like this. I would spend the whole time concentrating on not breaking their rule instead of just doing what comes naturally and having fun. Hey GT, Can I ask, if you don't mind, How this rule is any different then lets say, not swollowing, or no anal sex? Can you still relax while recieving (giving) a blow job if the no swollowing rule applies? I am just really curious. Quote Share this post Link to post
Chicup 42 Posted November 2, 2005 We have played with a non-kissing couple before, quite a bit really. Its not 'as good' but its still good Quote Share this post Link to post
twoplayful2 16 Posted November 2, 2005 How this rule is any different then lets say, not swollowing, or no anal sex? Can you still relax while recieving (giving) a blow job if the no swollowing rule applies? If I may, it seems like kissing is such a natural and common thing to do while having sex that it takes a little more of a conscious decision not to do it. If you're in a common guy on top or girl on top position it actually feels a bit awkward to me to be avoiding kissing. Quote Share this post Link to post
Carol_Danny 17 Posted November 2, 2005 Carol is really into passionate kissing during sex, be it with a man or woman. Her best orgasms come while kissing. I'm not overly keen on it myself, and prefer lighter, much less passionate kissing, when I do it. But, it doesn't affect anything we do as she does what she does, and I do what I do. -- Danny Quote Share this post Link to post
jennandjamesinm 87 Posted November 2, 2005 We have played with a couple that has a no-kissing rule and at first it was strange for us as we both like kissing to get things heated up, but in the end it was all good Now - I don't think that we would say no to a couple that has a no kissing rule. Jenn Quote Share this post Link to post
northindycpl 32 Posted November 2, 2005 If I may, it seems like kissing is such a natural and common thing to do while having sex that it takes a little more of a conscious decision not to do it. If you're in a common guy on top or girl on top position it actually feels a bit awkward to me to be avoiding kissing. Maybe you just haven't met the right non-kissing girl yet? Quote Share this post Link to post
jennandjamesinm 87 Posted November 2, 2005 Maybe you just haven't met the right non-kissing girl yet? I think you'd probably be that girl Jenn Quote Share this post Link to post
northindycpl 32 Posted November 2, 2005 I think you'd probably be that girl Jenn LOL I have been told, maybe by a few, that they didn't even notice the lack of kissing! Quote Share this post Link to post
SnsualPrsuasion 15 Posted November 2, 2005 It's not that I don't ejoy myself without kissing, with a previous couple it was a no-no for them, & hell, we were allowed to kiss everywhere else...neck, ears, everything downward. It wasn't uncomfortable, it was just that we had to be concious all evening of not breakin' their rule. The thing is is that we haven't run into this particular situation before; he does, she doesn't. Should I still do it, since I like to, & he does, or keep it out altogether because Mr. Snsual won't be doing it? We've just never had the split thing. It was either no for both or yes for both. [Maybe you just haven't met the right non-kissing girl yet?] I tell ya what the last lap dance I had, I NEVER saw boobs! LOL But it was the most erotic thing I've ever had happen to me. She was so distracting other ways, that I never noticed until she was done & way across the room and I'd parted with a twenty! LOL So maybe you're right. I never would have thought to enjoy a lap dance so much that didn't involve seeing those, yet I did!! ~Mrs. Snsual!~ Quote Share this post Link to post
Pepper & Drew 384 Posted November 2, 2005 We played with a couple who had that rule before and I broke it, then spent the rest of the time thinking "doh, don't do that again!". Not that they were really upset about it, but I did find myself thinking about it the rest of our play time together....and felt really bad for getting "caught up". So, not that we absolutely wouldn't play with a "no kissing" couple, but we really would rather not have to worry about breaking a rule during the regular course of play. Pepper Quote Share this post Link to post
good times 991 Posted November 3, 2005 Hey GT, Can I ask, if you don't mind, How this rule is any different then lets say, not swollowing, or no anal sex? Can you still relax while recieving (giving) a blow job if the no swollowing rule applies? I am just really curious. Sure, I don't mind if you ask at all, allthough I think that twoplayful2 said it pretty well. Kissing during sex is something I do without even thinking about it so I would have to make an effort to think about it to avoid doing it. In your other examples you mention, if I am receiving oral sex and am about ready to climax I always tell the woman doing it so if she doesn't want that to happen we can move on to other things. As far as anal, we don't go there (one of our three rules) so that wouldn't come up. We don't single out "no kissing" as a no go, we are very interested in all of our potential play partners rules. If any of their rules don't mesh with ours then we just aren't compatible for sex, we can still be friends though. PS - In case you were wondering about our other two rules they are; no pain, and we both have to approve of potential playmates before we play with them. We used to have a whole list when we first started but the majority of them have been thrown out. We have decided that simple is better, not for everybody I guess, but works for us. Quote Share this post Link to post