Carol_Danny 17 Posted November 9, 2005 Am I the only one that thinks penetration is just a very small part of Swinging? I'm just an average guy, but have never had problems or complaints, and we have been with guys of all sizes. Even the smaller than average guys have easily been able to satisfy my wife, as penetration isn't the most important thing to her. Bilingual4U's husband sits in that average category, as are most men. That's why it's called "average". Luckily, we have never judged our partners on the size of their penises. Doing that just causes you to lose out on some great sex! Actually, I lied. Carol doesn't like guys too big as she is quite petite and she finds them uncomfortable. But, there are so many other things you can do with sex than just penetration. -- Danny Quote Share this post Link to post
curiousagain 326 Posted November 9, 2005 I would think part of the allure of meeting someone new is the unknown, the exploring, the affirmation or changing of fantasys. But, if someone has a much smaller than average vagina or much larger than normal penis, there ought to be some warning to prevent harm and major dissapointments, though. I have a friend with what would definitely be called a porno penis and he finally had to get to the point of showing it to the ladys first and asking them if they were sure they could take it as most couldn't. BTW, he's a very skinny white guy, go figure. While I don't have what I would call a "porno penis" I have been keeping discriminating women happy for quite a while now. About half my FBs complain that it makes them sore for a day or two afterwards, but they keep coming back. Does anyone ever ask anyone how large or small their vagina is? I think if I was at a meet and greet and began being asked exactly as to size and such I would just end the meet right there. But, everyone has their reasons for doing what they do and I can't fault them. We all have a few questions that have to be asked at a meet and greet, that is part of what they are for. I would hope anybody that has been having sex with various partners, much less swinging for a while has learned to think on their feet (or back or knees), be flexible, and imaginative enough to always make sure their play partner experiences the most possible pleasure. Have you tried any SMs that have been in the lifestyle for awhile. You don't stay in the lifestyle as a SM very long if you don't have the tools and the talent to get the job done. And remember, in the vanilla or swing world, a hung man is like a beautiful woman. Irregardless of their personality or marital status they pretty much have their choice of partners and anyone wanting their time will have to take a number. If you make it to the head of the line and don't meet their criteria, it's "no soup for you"! Quote Share this post Link to post
LikeMinds321 1,527 Posted November 10, 2005 Bilingual4U said: In my experience, over many years of swinging, I have found that MOST of the guys have small cocks leaving me quite unsatisfied! I just read your profile and discovered you are 81 years old. I don't believe I've ever heard of someone swinging at that age. I doubt I'll have a desire for a penis at that age. Quote My husband is 6.5", thick and circumcised. The swinging ladies we have been with love this. It makes me angry that they are having a ball and I am frustrated. Most cocks I've met have been 6-7" so I'm surprised to hear in all your 45 years of swinging (this info I took from your profile) that most men were way under 6.5 inches. I have to agree with others who have said there is more to consider than cock size when seeking satisfying sex. Quote Bisex as an option has kept me involved and I love that. Okay. Quote Any other gals have a comparable complaint? Nope. But maybe in another thirty years I'll have a different story. Quote Share this post Link to post
Spoomonkey 421 Posted November 10, 2005 4Beauty2C said: We ask upfront now if they are over a certain length and if they are capable of sexual penetration/getting it up. my response would be: "I make no guarantees until I've seen you naked." As a guy firmly in the average range length-wise and more in the beer can range as far as girth goes, I have learned to ignore the size issues. If a person only wants a big cock, I am not for them regardless of my size. After all, I want them to have sex with ME. My cock will be involved - I promise - but lets focus on chemistry first. Good chemistry makes for good sex. If there is no chemistry, the sex is going to be average at best. And if their is no chemistry, I may not be able to get wood. That's not always the guy's fault... Just so you know... I would think a guy would have to be pretty desperate to play with a couple who grilled him that hard before heading into a room. Maybe I'm too sure of myself, but I would walk away knowing I would very likely find someone to play with who wanted more than just a guy who checks the right boxes... Quote Share this post Link to post
looking2swing 17 Posted November 10, 2005 I have come across several men that were not comparable to my husband, whom is more than well endowed. However, I have found that the actually penetration is a small part of swinging. I have the most fun playing with each other. I must use the old saying that it is not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean. Quote Share this post Link to post
Mrs Spoomonkey 118 Posted November 10, 2005 Coupleinidaho said: Although my hubby is 7" and thick, I cum the hardest (like a rocket) when he goes down on me and does the "come-hither" motion inside of me with his finger, rubbing my g-spot. Just because a prospective male swing partner isn't as well-endowed as my hubby (or has a small penis) wouldn't stop me from getting satisfied. The only issue in regards to penis size that I WOULD have a problem with is if the guy suffered from micro-penis. But that's an abnormality, not something you would run into on a frequent basis, if at all. I can just imagine if couples asked prospective female swing partners if they have had children vaginally, as in, how stretched out are you? But I guess to each his/her own. Good luck! This is me too. My best orgasms come through oral and/or that wonderful "come-hither" on my g-spot I don't always prefer men that are overly endowed because like Carol_Danny said it can be uncomfortable unless the guy is paying attention. I don't think I could ever ask someone up front and reject them only on the size of their penis. Like Spoo said if you have chemistry and just have fun trying different things it can be a great experience. Quote Share this post Link to post
dodgechevy 149 Posted November 10, 2005 male here talking, okay people sex ed time: the average (okay people read those words AVERAGE, as in the majority of males all around) tend to be 5 1/2 to 6 1/2. Now how much of that is actually necessary? 3 inches. Why? because the majority of a females nerve endings are at the base of the vagina. Your average vagina is only 8 inches long. The deeper you go the less you feel. Of course not all vaginas are the same. Some women have smaller vagina's and some have bigger ones. Women with larger vagina's needer a big size penis to feel better. Hell while im add it ill give some more info for the guys. If you are overweight expect to have a smaller penis size for 2 reasons. 1 the excess fat can start covering part of your penis, requiring you to really ram it in to have her feel the rest. and number 2, when you gain weight you release more estrogen then testosterone which causes you to get the lovely man boobs and the shrinking of the penis. now here is the good news. If you lose the weight, your body will start producing more testosterone making your penis grow to its actual size. i forgot how much, but i believe it was like an inch per 30lbs. and that my children is the end of the lesson. now to work on my grammar skillz :-) Quote Share this post Link to post
LikeMinds321 1,527 Posted November 10, 2005 dodgechevy said: If you lose the weight, your body will start producing more testosterone making your penis grow to its actual size. I forgot how much, but I believe it was like an inch per 30lbs. Let's see here... Based on this information, if MrLM gets down to a weight of 80 pounds he'll be toting a 9" penis. Quote Share this post Link to post
4uswingfriends 15 Posted November 10, 2005 Swinging is new to me but cock is not. No matter what any woman says or claims penis size does matter. My fiance is 8+ and 6.5 circumference so we have never had a problem. I am worried that when we find a couple that fits with us I may be disappointed. I am used to him but I really want to find a female to play with and a decent spouse to swap. I think I need something close to my fiance's size. Isn't it rude to ask especially when your making new friends. We just can't find a great couple that doesn't just want to hop in the sack right away. Quote Share this post Link to post
xxoticangel 99 Posted November 10, 2005 Size does matter to me but only if it is too long. Being only 5'1" anything more than 7" is just painful unless the guy is very gentle and watches his depth, which really decreases the fun since I prefer hot sweaty passionate sex to slow tender sex. When I get messages/responses from people that say they have 9" I just laugh and tell them no thanks. I have known some "size queens" during my life also and must agree 4uswingfriends that if a woman really enjoys size nothing else is going to satisify her. If we are talking with potential playmates and they mention size we let them know up front that hubby is an average 6" and let them decide. Quote Share this post Link to post
curiouscouple4f 17 Posted November 10, 2005 Size does matter to me but only if it is too long. Being only 5'1" anything more than 7" is just painful unless the guy is very gentle and watches his depth, which really decreases the fun since I prefer hot sweaty passionate sex to slow tender sex. When I get messages/responses from people that say they have 9" I just laugh and tell them no thanks.. Dito I agree, I'm also 5'1" (in shoes ) Anthing much larger than my husband who is average length, a little larger than average girth would hurt. 8" and up would be a no thank you. "The Mrs" Quote Share this post Link to post
Paphian 16 Posted November 11, 2005 In my experience, over many years of swinging, I have found that MOST of the guys have small cocks leaving me quite unsatisfied! Must be a result of people not routinely getting smallcocks vaccinations any more. Quote Share this post Link to post
Dr Jekyll 15 Posted November 11, 2005 We know a couple (that we love playing with) where the girl will ask you outright before the first date if you are at least of average size. Her point is simple, she enjoys looking at and feeling a big cock inside her. And for some reason, seeing a guy drop his shorts when he is small is a sure way to quench her fire... We all have some preset likes and dislikes in our partners that are turn-ons and turn-offs. For her it's a turn-off to see a small dick, and it in itself will lead to sex not being as much fun. Not because she can't orgasm wildly by oral play, but simply because the person has a trait that is a turn off for her. I tend to compare this to men with a beard or a moustache. If you have one, the chances of getting my wife into a room is extremely small, it's just too much of a turn-off for her. Why should penis size be any different? Quote Share this post Link to post
HappyPeople 17 Posted November 11, 2005 Penis size doesn't matter much to us but being able to keep it up does. Granted every penis gets shy sometimes but if it's a chronic problem, we aren't interested in that. Quote Share this post Link to post
BodyScape02 21 Posted November 11, 2005 Bilingual4U said: In my experience, over many years of swinging, I have found that MOST of the guys have small cocks leaving me quite unsatisfied! My husband is 6.5", thick and circumcised. The swinging ladies we have been with love this. It makes me angry that they are having a ball and I am frustrated. Bisex as an option has kept me involved and I love that. Any other gals have a comparable complaint? Oh ditto ditto ditto... I have the exact same complaint. We play allot less because of it. But at least when we do play... I am not feeling left out. I have the same likes as Samantha on "sex in the city" Remember the episode where she met a man she could really fall in love with ...but..."he has a really small cock" She is in bed and saying.."honey don't tease me, put it in" and he says " It is in" Yes to quote Samantha- "I really like bick dicks... I like to lick them and suck them...." Quote Share this post Link to post
DBL D 120 Posted November 11, 2005 Hey Spoo, beer-can thick isn't what I'd call average. We definitely want at least average and 4-5 inches isn't what we think is average. I think I'm average and yet I have been the larger of the guys most of the time. Fem D is let down to some degree, but she's learning. She has been with guys who are smaller and had fun. I think she'd just like something larger in general, even larger than me. I don't have a problem with her preferences but if I met a gal with a pussy too small for me (or too large!) I wouldn't have a problem if my partner didn't. There's more to a person than their "parts". Yes, there is! Male D Quote Share this post Link to post
Carol_Danny 17 Posted November 11, 2005 I know Danny already posted but I do want to add my comments. I actually prefer a smaller man over a big man. I am only 4'11" and I do have a shallow cervix. I can only take about 6 inches, so anything more is a bit of a waste. I do like a thicker man as the extra girth does hit the right spots and does feel good I have found that thicker men that are over 7 inches just is not comfortable to me. I can and do have sex, but the intercourse just isn't the best unless they take it easy. I usually get on top when I am with a bigger man so I can control the motion and depth. Carol xoxoxo Quote Share this post Link to post
WesternSwing 504 Posted November 11, 2005 In our experience most men fall in the 6" - 7" range, which agrees with the penis poll on this board. Being I'm in the upper range of "average" I figure only 2 out of 10 guys are going to be bigger than me, and 2 out of 10 will be visibly smaller than me (let's face it, +/- 1" is hard to decipher visually without a ruler). I don't see how you'd meet all these guys less then 6.5" when 70% of men fall in the 6" - 7" range. Mrs. WS agrees with Spoo, too. She doesn't care what the guy's penis size is, she's having sex with the guy, not the penis. If there is chemistry, then whatever size his penis is will be just fine. She says, "as long as the tongue works well, it's all good." She's had great times with guy's who couldn't keep it up very well. It's the whole experience that makes swinging good for her, not just a cock. Quote Share this post Link to post
valley 25 Posted December 28, 2005 curiouscouple4f said: Dito I agree, I'm also 5'1" (in shoes ) Anthing much larger than my husband who is average length, a little larger than average girth would hurt. 8" and up would be a no thank you. "The Mrs" Me too. Give me average any day. I've been 'bruised' inside too many times to like big ones. Plus, I adore oral sex but hate trying to dislocate my jaws to accommodate some thoughtless guy. As I try to explain, I can suck wine from one end of the bottle but not the other end...give me average any time. P.S.....doesn't mean I can't or won't enjoy bigger ones...there are compromises. Quote Share this post Link to post
Thrax 384 Posted December 28, 2005 You know...After reading these posts, I've never felt better just being your Average Guy. Really. Okay, if I was just ONE inch longer... Quote Share this post Link to post
valley 25 Posted December 28, 2005 You know...After reading these posts, I've never felt better just being your Average Guy. Really. Okay, if I was just ONE inch longer... Think of it this way,Thrax.........none of what youve got will go to waste. Quote Share this post Link to post
DBL D 120 Posted December 28, 2005 ...Okay, if I was just ONE inch longer... From the top...or the bottom? M.D. Quote Share this post Link to post
sukrekha 15 Posted December 28, 2005 for my wife size does matter. I have a 5" penis and one of the main reasons we swing is that she wants to see and feel bigger penises. In any case only she has sex with the other man so we make it clear that I will not be having sex so that the other girl is not disappointed. But yes we ask and ensure before hand that the guy is big where it matters!! Bigger guys are also more confident, vain and arrogant and that is a big turn on for my wife!! Quote Share this post Link to post
cray 15 Posted December 28, 2005 This is coming from my few years of multiple partners before marriage, during open relationships and just dating. I've had many partners, both large and small. Penis size does NOT matter if the man and woman know how to communicate. Everyone has their preferences and for some women maybe a longer/thicker penis is 'key'...but in my experience it shouldn't be. There are many positions and techniques that can make a smaller man just as satisfying. If a girl is satisfied with a man with one size of penis and expects a man of another size to do the same thing...then there will be dissatisfaction. My main word of advice is...don't expect the same thing from everyone. Communication is key. If a position isn't working out, try another one...or just adjust the angle. Sometimes just a small change can make a big difference. Quote Share this post Link to post
Thrax 384 Posted December 29, 2005 From the top...or the bottom? M.D. Hey, I don't care...from the middle, even. Quote Share this post Link to post