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ive recently bought toys and videos for me any my gf. i was wondering if seeing that and using the toys with 2 holes filled will get her interested in swinging?

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Not here.

 

We saw a segment on the Lifestyle on 48 Hours, and Terry Gould was interviewed, about his Book, "The Lifestyle: The Erotic Rites of Swingers" (or something like that.)

 

After seeing the segment, we went to Amazon.con, and ordered his book, as well as The Ethical Slut.

 

We read them both together aloud, taking turns.

 

We met our first couple.

My wife kissed her first girl.

 

We haven't looked back since.

 

 

With respect to porn... I dunno... almost all the women I know don't enjoy porn the way guys, too. A lot of it is pretty anti-woman... especially the stuff that I see pop up when I'm surfing. I can't imagine a typical DP scene would open up a couple to the Lifestyle... but who knows!!!

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Porn and toys didn't have any effect on us becoming swingers. However, talking to each other about our fantasies did. We talked about a lot of other things too... how we would feel, what we would like to do, what we wanted in other people to swing with... you get the idea. Then it became a matter of turning fantasy into reality... and it wasn't at all like we thought, but being on the same page as we went through the process made all the difference in the world.

 

On another note... the Mrs. does like porn, gets her hot as a pistol, but she is very visual, more so than most other women we know. And she prefers a bit more of a story and porn with some build-up... not just straigtht to the action so to speak... but I digress.

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I'd have to say yes to porn and no to toys. I was the one to bring swinging up to my husband. We were watching some porn with 2 girls and a guy and I was really turne one by it. So I shyly said "that looks like fun" and the rest is history. I had never thought about it before and was surprised I came up with the idea and even more surprised the mr agreed.

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DH and I both love porn and that is likely how the fantasy/conversations started many years ago. Just a few months ago we were finally able to make the fantasty come true with a close female friend of mine who is bi. I love toys too but doubt that it had anything to do with it. Ok, maybe a little bit. 2 men at the same time is a HUGE fantasy of mine.

 

We are now looking to broaden our horizens even further and hope to attend our first party soon.

 

BTW, this is my first post. :D

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ive recently bought toys and videos for me any my gf. i was wondering if seeing that and using the toys with 2 holes filled will get her interested in swinging?

 

You never know, but I think the only thing that will do is make her really horny lol. Perhaps it will get you laid! Which, of course, is always a good thing. Swinging? Perhaps.

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ive recently bought toys and videos for me any my gf. i was wondering if seeing that and using the toys with 2 holes filled will get her interested in swinging?

 

I would say no. Oh,.... and then there's NO.

 

Swinging is much more about what the couple can do for each other, not what you can get HER to do. You need a pretty stable relationship first, and just getting her to watch porn and using toys has nothing to do with that. Read a bunch of posts, you'll learn some stuff :)

 

Mrs LOL

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I don't think porn or toys started us in swinging, but they both help with our play now! Our lifestyle started with open, honest conversation. The conversation started during sex - talking about our fantasies. I think the conversation that got us comfortable talking about our fantasies was the 'tell me about your past - I promise no jealousy or disregard - I'll just listen and then I'll tell you about my past'. We shared our first fuck, our first blow job (giving for me, receiving for him), our first voyeur experience, our first exhibitionist experience, our first one night stand, our first outside fuck, our first 'do it everywhere' night, etc. By the time we finished 'sharing' we were so hot we couldn't stand it. We had a great night of sex.

 

The next time we wanted to try to recapture that experience - and we'd already shared all the 'firsts' we started admitting to all sorts of other experiences. One thing led to another and we started sharing fantasies!

 

The rest is history!

 

Sarah

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Count us in the NOPE category as well. Porn and toys are great and all, but that had NOTHING to do with us wanting to swing.

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Unfortunately (from what I gather from your post), you have missed the most important step - communication. To get your girlfriend interested in swinging you have to find out where her head is on the subject. Have you talked about it at all to her to find out if she is receptive to the idea, or if she has any fantasies that she might want to explore. Porn and toys are great enhancers for your sex life and they are certainly a good first step AFTER having talking to her and confirming she is interested.

 

Otherwise it is comparable to going out and spending money on power tools and do it yourself video's and hoping that will make her as interested as you are on residing the house.

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scott,

 

I guess the problem with your question is that you're not asking about porn and toys in general, but about a fantasy of you that (I am sure) is the main subject of the porn, and a way to use the toy as to bring this very fantasy closer to reality.

 

So, disregarding the elements (porn, toys), IMO, you have a problem of method, and you're thinking of one that, deppending on your GF mindset, could lead her to leave you with the DVD stucked up your mouth and the toy stucked up your ass.

 

Porn may be ok, but you have to dig in your GF fantasies (instead of yours) to pick the subject, or at least ask the tender of the movies women enjoy. The same happens with toys, you can give her a toy as a gift and let her get used to it alone (or ask you to participate in this process) before trying the DP stuff.

 

In any case, if you take the right approach you may be surprised from the fantasies your GF may have on her own, after she tells you about them, and in any case, unless you find out you both share this fantasy, this would be something more close to a bargain, where both of you were eager to learn and share each other fantasies, while respecting each other limits.

 

So the question shouldn't be about what, but about how.

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we have talked about it. shes not ready for the thought of me with another girl. but my friend and i have talked about getting our girls together. he said his finance will do it. and my gf thinks she is cute and said with some drinks in her she might get with her. so i figured this could be a starting point.

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I asked Mrs. WS and she said "No. It was fulfilling fantasies only other men and women in the same room could do. Toys are toys, DVD is DVD, flesh is flesh." :D

 

Mr. WS

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we have talked about it. shes not ready for the thought of me with another girl. but my friend and i have talked about getting our girls together. he said his finance will do it. and my gf thinks she is cute and said with some drinks in her she might get with her. so i figured this could be a starting point.

 

Your girlfriend said she isn't ready but you are going to try to ply her with liquor because you and your buddy want to see the girls getting it on?? I think you guys need to realize that women are not toys that you can play with whenever you want just becuase you want to see two women having sex. Talk about insenstive and selfish.

 

If you have to drink to swing then you are not ready. The person that you need to be talking to and making decisions with is your girlfriend and honestly she has already told you how she feels but you can't seem to get past that and are doing your best to push her into doing what YOU want to do. Swinging is about two people having fun - this needs Trust, communication, and respect. Stop plotting with your friend and start listening to what your girlfiriend has to say, becuase right now I would say none of your are ready to swing.

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I agree with EvilMJ, except more encompassing, swinging is about more than two people having fun. If everyone in the room isn't on-board with it, then someone is being coerced or manipulated into doing it and they will feel bad about themselves after doing it, and resent you for coercing them into it when you, as their significant other, should've been watching out for their interests above your own. As a wise man once said, "Love is the condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own." If it doesn't work for either of you, then is doesn't work for both of you.

 

You need to really talk about this with your girlfriend. It sounds to me like this is more you and your friend's fanstasy than it is your girlfriends. If everybody isn't all for it than it will be a disaster.

 

Mr. WS

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we have talked about it. shes not ready for the thought of me with another girl. but my friend and i have talked about getting our girls together. he said his finance will do it. and my gf thinks she is cute and said with some drinks in her she might get with her. so i figured this could be a starting point.

 

This is another subject that trips me out personally. I think to each his own, I'm just curious. I'm not judging, what a person does with the body is their own business. But I have seen this alot: the woman is willing to have sex with another woman, but not with another man...somehow, in her mind, this is not "cheating" on her husband...not that swinging is ever cheating at all. But, if she has sex with a woman and not another man, she is still being faithful in a way to her husband. I just simply can't understand this method of thinking lol.

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Unfortunately (from what I gather from your post), you have missed the most important step - communication.

 

Very true. But porn can be useful in helping couples open up about their individual sexuality - which provides a good foundation for "the conversation about swinging". After that, porn has little value.

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I agree with EvilMJ, except more encompassing, swinging is about more than two people having fun.

Mr. WS

 

It is? :eek:

 

To answer the question, porn and toys didn't have anything to do with our decision to get into the lifestyle. It was a strip club on Christmas Eve. :lol: You can't make someone be interested in swinging. As the others have said, toys and videos can lead to a discussion about swinging, but just because someone thinks something's hot on-screen doesn't mean it will translate to real life.

 

Pepper

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we have talked about it. shes not ready for the thought of me with another girl. but my friend and i have talked about getting our girls together. he said his finance will do it. and my gf thinks she is cute and said with some drinks in her she might get with her. so i figured this could be a starting point.

 

Oh man, now let me ask you something. Do you really care about your GF and this relationship, or you're hanging out with this gal to have fun?

 

In any case, allow me to simplify your problem. You and your buddy wants a foursome, want to watch two girls having sex, want to fulfill the DP fantasy? This is really easy: hire two hookers, fulfill your fantasies, and get over it.

 

I know, in here this is an odd advice, no one here would suggest you to cheat on your GF, but honestly, the damage you can do to her by cheating to fulfill a fantasy she isn't up to fulfill would be nothing compared to the damage you'd make if you coherce her with alcohol into doing something she will regret later on (and possibly for the rest of her life).

 

Man, you're playing with a loaded gun here, aimed to your GF head, what you plan to do could be seen, and felt by your GF, as a rape (and if she feels so, it WILL be a rape, even if she were the one telling you, hypoteticaly, that alcohol could be a way to ease her a bit).

 

So, the next question is, what sort of advice you're asking for here? Because no one here will help you rape your GF.

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Sereneiders.

 

Being on a high horse means a potentially long drop to the ground.

 

According to Scott, it was his GF that suggested she'd like to play under the influence of a few drinks, not him. He didn't suggest anything like a "date-rape" scenario as you appear to have read it.

 

Our guess is that many (not all, but many) would not take that "final step" into swinging without a little alcoholic lubrication or other inhibition subduing circumstance.

 

They appear to be talking, is all. :(

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Very true. But porn can be useful in helping couples open up about their individual sexuality - which provides a good foundation for "the conversation about swinging". After that, porn has little value.

 

Yes when you put it that way I agree with you. Very good point

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Sereneiders.

 

Being on a high horse means a potentially long drop to the ground.

 

According to Scott, it was his GF that suggested she'd like to play under the influence of a few drinks, not him. He didn't suggest anything like a "date-rape" scenario as you appear to have read it.

 

Our guess is that many (not all, but many) would not take that "final step" into swinging without a little alcoholic lubrication or other inhibition subduing circumstance.

 

They appear to be talking, is all. :(

 

I pointed out I realize she was the one who "suggested" this, altough I'd like to know the actual conversation where this was suggested.

 

In any case, the whole thing should be discussed with a cold heart and a sober mind, it should be planned and at least the limits imposed. She may ask to drink to ease herself a bit, and this is fine, for as long as she is confident about his knowledge of her limits and his willingness to stick to them.

 

But notice Scott mentioned he discussed this scenario with his buddy, and didn't mention if he did the same with his GF, which is what really matters here. He's taking some comments from her, perhaps depriving them from the proper context, since she may have expressed a fantasy she want to preserve as a fantasy, and looking for a way to make these comments fit with the plans HE SAID he's discussing with his buddy.

 

So far, this isn't a rape scenario, but there are hints telling us this could easily become a rape scenario. This means, once Scott read this, he will provide more information about his relationship with his GF and about her mindset, and what makes him believe she really want this to happen, or he will understand there's a lot of homework to do with his GF to ensure this won't become a rape scenario.

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i think everyone here is taking this out of context. her and i have talked about this. she said she would probably do the girl thing with his gf but would have to have some drinks in her to loosen up before she did it. this is not something forced or anything like that. both girls i think would want some drinks to do it, theyve never done it before.

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i think everyone here is taking this out of context. her and i have talked about this. she said she would probably do the girl thing with his gf but would have to have some drinks in her to loosen up before she did it. this is not something forced or anything like that. both girls i think would want some drinks to do it, theyve never done it before.

 

Ok. Then, please, give us the context as for us to be able to 1) decide if we want to help you, and 2) figure out how to do it.

 

What worries me is what I remarked... "you think", for something like this to work out, you have to talk to your GF abouth whatever "you think" and you're not sure about.

 

For example, when she said she could do "the girl thing", did she meant to do it in front of you? did she meant to do it in front of your buddy? Is she aware about the conversations you have with your buddy about this? Did you talk with her about the potential outcomes in the relationship she will have afterwards with you, with this other gal and with your buddy?

 

I focused on the "rape scenario" before from the lack of information, but as you provide it, there still are other undesired scenarios that may hurt her... and even you.

 

For example, if you take a look around, you'll see we strongly advice against engaging in a swinging experience with previously know friends... moreover if this would be your first experience. That we advice to talk, talk and talk with your partner, and the only we got from you so far was some detail about your toughts and fantasies, the plan you're developing with your buddy, and that she gave you the ok to do something that is far from your first question and (I guess), your goal... end up doing the DP thing.

 

I may be totally wrong here, but from your words, it seems to me you're far from talking all the talk you should do with your GF. It is not just to disclose her fantasies, to get a theoretical ok to do something that for you is just the first step in the road while for her it may be the end of it. It's about figuring out what could go wrong and reasure each other in the ways you would react on those scenarios, it's about drawing TOGHETER the road in the map, where you both want to go, and how to take the shortest steps allowing you two to check how confortable you feel about what you've done; it's about going at the speed of the slowest one involved, insthead of looking for the ways to increase her peace, and it is about ensuring at every step along the way, you two are and remain in the same page.

 

Now, where you feel you are with your GF regarding what I just told?

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yes you are totally wrong here. shes aware of everything. shes said things and thinks that his gf is cute. shes aware of this. he and i would be watching and shes ok with that. we would never do anything that she didnt want to. this wouldnt affect our relationship at all.

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I would never have been able to manipulate or coerce my babe into swinging. We had discussed several things before we got married, swinging being a subject that we decided was okay to talk about, but not commit to at the time.

 

As time progressed, things happened kind of naturally. While we drink, we don't really ever get drunk, and even if we did, it wouldn't cause us to do something radical that we wouldn't ever do otherwise.

 

And like the others, porn was definitely a non-factor in swinging; we, to this day, like the fantasies, and we share them (or make up new ones) with our swing partner couple. All four of us have a little difficulty with taking porn seriously, and the times we've tried to use it, we end up turning it off. One time, we ended up in fits of hysterics--it was just in the moment.

 

We do kind of like cartoon porn sometimes, but usually just real life is so much bigger and better.

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let me give you the perspective from a bisexual woman.

 

Too often women feel cohersed into playing with other women for their husband/boyfriend. This may or may not be the case here.

 

I can see where she might feel a certain amount of trepidation about playing with another woman but she has to ask herself:

 

  • Has she ever been interested females or the female body before this
  • Did she have any interest in any kind of same sex activity before this
  • Is she only doing this because it is 'dirty' or exciting and new, or because she is honestly intersted in playing with another woman
  • Has SHE spoke with the other woman at any point??? This is a very important step
  • Since she feels she may need some drinks to loosen her up, will she regret this later? or has she thought about the morning after scenario?

 

There are a lot of things that really should be taken into consideration - Is the other woman interested in both giving and recieving, is your girlfriend?

 

You may think this won't affect your relationship but if you read some threads on this board you may see that in many cases it does affect the realtionship becuase what you think you are going to feel during and after aren't always the same when reality hits. That is why we advocate lots of discussion before hand.

 

My advice to you is that if you are both honestly interested in this scenario then all four of you need to get together some night over supper or something and have a long discussion about it. Decide what is going to happen before hand, what to do if someone is no longer comfortable and wants to back out, what everyone is comfortable with. Then there will be no surprises.

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scott,

 

Let me appologize if you felt I was being harsh, it's just that your post resembled many other posts here adressing this scenario the same way you did at the begining, from guys who were careless or irresponsible about the consecuences.

 

Now that it seems to me we get closer to the same page, I'll endorse EvilMJ words. Moreover, what I am telling you comes from my experience, and from other people experience reflected in this board.

 

Believe me, there is a before and an after, and right after you're able to tell how different things were from what you expected before, even when doing your best effort to plan and foresight the outcome and the day after. If you don't take this effort seriously, your really risk to screw your relationship big time. Thus we aedvice to and encourage people to make this effort, because if we don't, we feel we'd be helping to screw othe people's life, and we trend to be skeptical and conservative until we have enough hints about where people come from when asking for advice.

 

I still feel you didn't grasp the whole picture here, and it isn't necesarily because you're being careless nor irresponsible, but because of having a "wishfull thinking" approach. You didn't talk about your fears, nor your GF ones, and it's hard to believe there are no fears (because if they weren't, then you'd be foing this without looking for advice... and there are a ton of posts from fearless people who smashed their heads against the reality afterwads, asking for advice on how to control the damages).

 

Not expressing your concerns and fears tells me one of three things: 1) you're fearless (which was the scenario I previously assumed when replying to you), 2) you're denying the fear value, perhaps because you feel that by exploring those fears (your and from you GF) some of you may chiken out, spoiling the chance for this experience to happen, or 3) you're talking about them with your GF and, up to you, this isn't the topic to address here.

 

In the later case, the problem is, we have no clue to decide wich sort of advice to provide, because we're blindfolded.

 

In the second case, well... things toesn't work this way. Most fears have solid grounds on insecurities about oneself and about the relationship. Those insecutities deserve to be seen, and the proper way to minimize the risk of produce a damage is to isolate them and provide reasurance.

 

Now, it is up to you to allow us to give you a quality advice or not.

 

BTW, something we often advice and we didn't so far, is to invite your GF to participate in the board, because this way she would be able to talk about her fears and get some reasurance from us.

 

Whatever you choose to do, I wish you two the best.

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      "Time for a shower and a rest before we set up tonight," Tim suggested. So we slipped upstairs to our room and showered together. The shower was only big enough to get both inside and had a flexible pipe with a variable spray head. The naughty schoolboy in Tim surfaced, and he turned the shower onto pulse and started to work my breasts and nipples with the jet. I slid my soapy hands down onto his cock and worked it hard. Tim moved the shower between my legs, and I opened up for him. The jet started to bombard my clit. This was too much too quick, and I said, "Pack it up. That hurts."
       
      Tim settled down onto his knees and softly kissed her better. She responded quickly, and I pushed his face deeper into my crotch. The outer lips were gently opened, and his tongue probed for the inner lips teasing around my clit. I got impatient and rocked my hips into his face forcing his tongue onto my clit, demanding his attention. My legs spread apart of their own accord, and a hand crept around, caressing my bottom and making the cleft tingle with anticipation. As my pussy heated up and the waves started to build, that other hand was around my anus, caressing and probing the pink rosebud.
       
      As the first waves started to run through my body, a finger tickled and slid inside my arse. The orgasm exploding inside me was made more magnificent by the probing finger. The finger working deep in my bowel was enough to hit my "G" spot from the other passage. As I came down from the first shudders, the jet spray added its contribution, and I nearly passed out with pleasure. That brought on a multiple, and it kept coming and coming until I slumped against him.
       
      Tim dried me off, picked me up, and gently laid me on the bed. He dried himself and leaned over me. His cock was still hard. I lazily reached up, pulled him into my mouth, and sucked and sucked, working around the helmet just under the rim. He did not take long as he wanted a cum as much as the sucking. It exploded into my mouth, and I slurped it down, leaving about half on my tongue. Tim collapsed on the bed beside me, and we kissed, sharing the salty fluid he had deposited. "You minx! You are supposed to swallow that!" teased Tim. I shot back: "You know it turns you on tasting semen, so stop complaining."
       
      We both drifted into a deep sleep for a couple of hours. The house is very warm, so I put on a floaty dress and a white silk thong with a diamante glitter buckle at the back when I dressed. Tim smiled and said, "Babe, that does show off your bottom beautifully. I am enjoying their company. Susan has a great mind and body. What do you think of Greg?"
       
      Dodging his question, I asked my own. "Would you want to be inside Susan's pussy?" I asked, "Does she have fuckability?"
       
      "Oh yes, and more. But remember, this is not a swinging party; these are clients. We must be careful; a wrong move could mess things up big time."
       
      "Susan sort of hit on me in the sauna by 'accidentally' showing me her pussy," I admitted. "It's smooth and beautiful, and I could tell she was very wet."
       
      "Interesting," Tim said, "but it doesn't change the fact they are clients. Let's enjoy dinner. Come on; it must be time to go on down." I could tell, though, that my admission had hit home with Tim, and his stomach wouldn't be the only thing on his mind at dinner.
       
      The rabbit was fabulous, and we slowly munched our way through the various courses. Coffee and brandy followed, and we retreated into a smaller intimate family room with sofas, large seats, scattered cushions on the floor, and a big fireplace with a bright fire in the grate. Susan found a DVD, "Eyes Wide Shut," with Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise. Tim commented, "You look just like her, Susan."
       
      "She is a fine woman," Susan agreed. "I wish I had her bottom and her breasts. Watch the first scenes, and you get to see all of her. She is beautiful!"
       
      The film was remarkable, and we all watched it enthralled during the sex party scene in the large country house. The men in masks and long dark cloaks, women in cloaks, and other women wearing just about nothing. Couples fucking all over the furniture, and one girl was being done resting on the back of another man. A girl in the corner was being fucked doggy on a coffee table. I started to get wet. The film was deep, and the sex was great, although never construed as a porn film, much too delicate for that category. My pussy was alive, so I couldn't wait to get Tim back upstairs later. The movie finished, and Susan said, "That was the hot scene at the party. Wouldn't you love to join in and be one of them!"
       
      A careful silence was followed by Tim and me, which gained the retort from Susan. "You are swingers, aren't you? Otherwise, you would have said something about not sharing your wife!" I giggled, and Tim finally uncomfortably said: "Well, it takes all kinds of people with different attitudes to sex to make the world go around."
       
      Susan got up and walked out of the room. After a few minutes, she returned with a small basket of condoms and a collection of exciting toys. Susan smiled at me and said, "Mistral, let's give the boys a show. Then I will fuck Tim to a standstill as long as you are OK about it and want Greg!"
       
      "OK. I want to fuck Greg as much as he wants me. Same for you and Tim," was my husky reply. Suddenly, all the rules had gone out the window. Susan smiled and shrugged off her long dress, sliding it down to the floor, and she had nothing underneath. I got up and selected a toy from the basket, a rabbit dildo. I stepped out of my dress and knelt in front of Susan. She opened up her legs, and I switched on the vibrator, slid a finger inside a very wet slippery pussy, and pressed the toy to her clit.
       
      "My, we have been thinking rude thoughts this evening, hmmm?" I chided her. Susan said, "Well, the DVD certainly opened up the conversation. I tried to interest you in the sauna, and I saw the fuck-me look in your eyes but then got ignored. How come?"
       
      I ignored the question. "Get on the cushions. I want to open you right up and explore," I commanded. I worked slowly down Susan's body, tonguing every crevice. At the same time, the vibrator was held against her pussy without really trying to get inside. She rolled over onto her back, pulled me on top, slid off my thong, and peeled apart the lips of a very wet Mistral pussy. She arched her back to get her head between my legs, then slowly worked her tongue around my clit, just missing the most sensitive part: teasing, teasing! My head was between her legs sucking hard on her cunt, the vibrator discarded alongside us.
       
      Susan tasted and smelt divine, a cunt to die for, and we gently and slowly worked each other to a beautiful girly climax. I slid her clit between my lips and sucked gently, giving it all the attention it could take. Her bottom started to thrash about, and a muffled cry came from her as she exploded and released a dribble of pussy juice onto my face. Strong hands lifted us apart, and Greg sat me down on his lap, legs facing him. He kissed me gently, opened my mouth with his tongue, and started to probe my soul with his penetrating tongue. When those two had shed their clothes, I don't know!
       
      What I wanted was getting harder under my thigh and starting to poke up between my legs. My hand reached down and stroked the elegant cock, trying so hard to get inside me. Greg put on a condom and was ready for me. A thrust up then down onto it, and he was inside. I could not wait and would not wait. My hips thrust madly at him, exploring his cock and filling myself with pleasure. It must have only taken me 30 seconds to hit the first orgasm, and Greg was getting faster and faster until he exploded.
       
      We kissed and looked over at Tim and Susan. They were in a 69 with Susan sucking Tim hard and working her two fingers inside his anus. His balls tightened, and he emptied himself inside her mouth. She got up, came over, and kissed me deeply, sharing the contents of her mouth with me. Susan returned to Tim and started gently sucking him back to hardness again. Greg was working my bottom with his tongue, firm strokes working into the most private and sensitive area a woman has. I pulled him up and kissed him deeply, and again he shared the semen from Susan's mouth.
       
      Greg smiled and said, "OK, we all shared Tim. Would he enjoy sucking me?" I was a little unsure how Tim would react. Susan said, "He can't talk right now since his mouth is full of my pussy."
       
      Greg lifted me off him and walked over to the other two, kissed Susan, and then leaned over and lightly bit Tim's nipple, who, for a straight guy, relaxed and did nothing. Greg slowly worked down his body and started to get near his groin. Susan got up and thrust her pussy back into his face. Tim hungrily lapped at her while Greg took Tim's cock into his mouth.
       
      Tim started to push his hips at Greg, who was working the sensitive spots on his cock with expert reverence. I had never seen Tim with a man before, and it fascinated me to see how he responded to a man's attention. Tim gently pulled Greg around so they were 69 together and opened his mouth to get Greg's cock down his throat.
       
      Susan had slid behind me and worked one of the toys into my pussy. A little finger was up my arse, and the big rabbit worked magic inside me. I watched, fascinated, while the two men ground their cocks into each other's mouths, sucking and mouth fucking together. I could reach Greg's anus from where I was crouching, and I slid a finger inside, feeling for his prostate. I found the firm nut I was after and massaged it, bringing him to a rapid spunk explosion. When he started, I worked the prostate harder, milking the orgasm to its absolute. Tim was greedily swallowing all that Greg could deliver. Tim's hips began to shudder as he succumbed to Greg's tongue and spurted his load down his throat.
       
      The guys then got up and came over and kissed us. Greg pushed a quantity of spunk down my throat while Tim probed Susan's mouth. For the rest of the night, we moved upstairs to a large bedroom with a king-sized double that could sleep six without trouble. We swapped, we fucked, we cuddled and rested, then swapped, fucked, and cuddled some more, eventually falling asleep around 5 a.m.
       
      I awoke around 7:00, needing a drink. As no one else was around, I walked naked downstairs to get some orange juice. Halfway down the stairs, Jon appeared with a smile and a naked girlfriend beside him. "Hello, we returned late last night and realized you guys were having fun."
       
      Penny, Jon's girlfriend, said, "Come into this room. We had a camera in the large bedroom and watched you all together. What a turn-on!"
       
      I followed them in with dread, not knowing what to expect. Jon said, "Don't look so worried. We enjoyed the performance and wanted to share some of it with you."
       
      As I looked at the display, the threesome on the screen was waking up, and Susan was fondling both men. Penny said, "I often watch Greg and Susan's swinging parties here, and we fuck like bunnies while we watch. I enjoyed a threesome with Jon and his stepmother. What was Greg like? I haven't had him yet?" I just stood there, mouth open in shock, unable to speak.
       
      Jon pushed me gently onto the bed and started caressing my body while Penny approached the other side. Jon gently sucked my nipples while Penny's tongue delicately explored my womanhood. "We want to fuck you properly, Mistral, but I know your pussy must be sore from last night, so we'll stick with our tongues this time, OK?"
       
      After a few minutes of light sex, Penny said, "We better slip away quietly as we are not supposed to be here. Are you two coming to next weekend's party?" The feeling of this beautiful young feminine creature's tongue still fresh on my mind, I shot back, "You bet. If we are invited."
       
      "Oh, I expect you shall be," Penny smiled. She gazed into my eyes, dropped her hand between her legs, and worked a finger deep into herself. "Until next time...," she said, trailing her finger, wet with her secretions and Jon's cum, stickily across my cheek before resting it on my lips. An invitation which I readily obliged by opening my mouth. Her long finger worked around my tongue, gifting me the taste of her and her lover.
       
      I slipped upstairs and joined the frolicking three on the bed for more and more of what my body desired. Eventually, we fell asleep again and woke around 3 p.m. feeling completely satisfied and sexually drained. A shower and a good cleanup refreshed my body and spirit. Tim and I were due to leave soon, and Susan came to me and said, "You must come to our next weekend party. Please say yes. If you like, bring some friends that will enjoy what you two have this weekend. There is so much more I want to do with you and Tim. We have had a fantastic time."

      On the way home, Tim said solemnly: "You realize that the weekend could have gone dreadfully wrong if it was a trap. We were caught out, well nearly!"

      The following weekend swinger party is another edition of this story…
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    • By Billygoat
      From a open discussion with LS friends on Friday night.  Everyone at the table have been in the LS for eight or more years and have been quite active and have explored and experienced various activities and fantasies that interested them.  The common thread was the women present ( several wives, girlfriends and three single ladies) had all experienced and enjoyed having at the least two men (MFM) to several at a time (or throughout the evening at a party).  It didn’t take long into this conversation for it to turn into a ladies only animated conversation of their experiences and accomplishments with only their husbands/boyfriends asked to chime in verification/confirmation of the event, act or result of the experience.  Hands down all of us males had enjoyed whatever happened in the shared stories.  
       
      It was awesome to sit and listen to these women sharing their adventures, thoughts and results of their experiences and there was quite a bit of excited chatter and teasing…..lots of loud shouts and laughter.  I was glad due to our number and time of the evening we were seated at the back corner of the dining area well away from the few dinners still present.  I am sure there were a few servers who got an ear full.
       
      One noticeable revelation from observing all this was the common result of these experiences for the women.  All revealed in one way or another the personality…..confidence…..level of comfort the all experienced as a result of their sexual sharing and experiences in the LS.  Echoed by their spouses (those present).
       
      1. Ability now to discuss openly anything with their SO.
      2. Discuss, ask for what ever they had an interest in, desire, openly on any topic as well as sexually.
      3.  All openly discussed that sexually in their private lives prior to the lifestyle they rarely if ever initiated any activity with their SO only were reactive to initiation by their SO.  And NEVER asked for or discussed their personal desires, needs or fantasies.  (the single ladies present agreed they felt the same with any partner they might have.  Including the husbands and boyfriends of other women that they shared)
      4. Their personal sexual/sensual lives in their relationship have become broadened and deeper, a much closer intimacy (not just sexual) then before.  Far more satisfying.  

      It was not just a fun evening out together as a group (sex was not part of this evening at all, just social gathering) but so enlightening.  
       
      Sitting having coffee this morning it occurred to me that all this, generally, is probably true to some level to anyone who is involved at some level in the LS.  Dependent of course on what level or type of involvement in an alternative Lifestyle they are in.  I also thought that there are  common takeaways:
       
      1. Situational shyness, intimidation, lack of confidence, appearance concerns and feelings/concern of being judged negatively.
      2. That last part “feelings/concern of being judged negatively” is they largest shared issue that women have.  From the time they are self aware 6, 7, 8 years old and on…..they are told, threatened, educated  etc that their sex is private, not to be displayed shared discussed experienced and in many cases told any negative experiences are their fault….not being a good girl.
      3. The confidence, personal strength, emotional discovery over growth and feeling at peace with themselves.  Acceptance of who they are.
      4. Sexual preferences and desires.  Even with in their group a funny but eye opening discussion…and truth concerning size, preferred size and what/how it all relates.  It really isn’t what it seems.  LOL
       
      everyone grows in this lifestyle to their own comfort level.  But to watch these women and listen to them (including my Queen) was just hands down amazing.  This group of women discussing to only their experiences but some of their not yet experienced fantasies/desires.  Their emotions.  Support…..no negative judgements at all.  Even bragging rights and one up man ship between them.  A chance to get a peak into a part of the LS not often discussed……at-least with males present.
       
       
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