How do you feel about using escorts?

[2chase3 25]

Just wanted to get everyones opinion on how they would feel about a paid date. (escort,male/female) ...you get the idea.

 

Lets say you were in a situation where you had no individuals in your area to play with ...lol,I know everyone does but just entertain the thought for a moment.

 

Most of society frowns on the idea of hiring a person/persons for the sole intentions of sex, hence the illegal act of prostituion. Please give your opinion and why you would choose so. We are on the fence with this one.

[ncmd_couple 597]

2chase3,

 

Even when I was isolated from someone that I cared about as a partner for months, I would not hire a prostitute. Still won't. I don't find prostitution to be wrong, and I don't think that it should be illegal. But is not something that I would do. After all, unless I was at sea with a bunch of guys, there has always been someone that I met that met my needs at one level or another.

[Spoomonkey 421]

I recently read a book by Roald Dahl (the guy who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory). In the book there was a rich man who raised pheasants that, once a year, he allowed other rich men to hunt. These coddled, hand-raised pheasants were chased out of the brush for the hunt and then - tame and lacking any real self-preservation instincts - were shot down easily by men who would then drink brandy and smoke cigars while glad-handing over their "noble" hunt...

 

I suppose there are easier ways to "swing", but there is something fulfilling about waiting for those experiences with people who actually WANT to have sex with you. Anyone can have sex with a hooker.

[2chase3 25]

Very nice example Spoonmonkey, I would have to say it would be more on the lines of the "chase" for us as well. But if you tally all other aspects *(and I am referring to the hardcore swinging couples)* Where is the big difference in meeting a couple and having sex with them 15 minutes later, than paying for someones services other than the money involved. Morally speaking.

 

And by no means ,Do not take that as we have moral issues with swinging as I promise you we dont. We have never patronized a professional (well other than that Mexico trip 12 years ago with a few buddies, years before our relationship, but that's a bachelor's tale ) As I failed to mention this is just to get a idea of individual views. entertainment only.

[Spoomonkey 421]

2chase3 said:

Where is the big difference in meeting a couple and having sex with them 15 minutes later, than paying for someones services other than the money involved. Morally speaking.

 

I know you said that you didn't have a moral issue, but just for the sake of conversation, I don't think there is a moral difference at all. However, the difference that IS there, that would matter to us, is that the couple we met and had sex with 15 minutes later (hypothetical as that may be) wanted to have sex with us...

 

And in 15 minutes no less!

 

Either I was a charming devil or Mrs Spoo wore her "good boots"

[Darkblue 55]

No way!! i have to agree with Mrspoo and NCMD,i see no reason for a prostitute,even if i was desperate i would find another way to relieve the tension;-), a lot of these people are prostitutes because they have no choice, they don't want to jump in bed with me because they want me and find my body adorable, we want like all swingers do a person to jump in bed with us because they want to and not because they are getting paid to pretend they do...

[Guest screaminggood]

I'd take the money you'd spend on a prostitute and take a trip to a big city that has on-premise clubs! The women/couples you'll meet at a club will actually be into having sex with you. And if you have more than one day, you have an extra chance to choose a different club, etc.

 

...At the worst case scenario, you'll be a voyeur.

[Guest screaminggood]

If I were you, I'd take the money that you'd spend on a prostitute and go for a weekend in a bigger city with on-premise clubs. For about the same price, you'd get more opportunities with "real" people who just want to have sex for fun, not money.

[ShellyM 0]

2chase3 said:

Just wanted to get everyone's opinion on how they would feel about a paid date. (escort,male/female) ...you get the idea.

 

Lets say you were in a situation where you had no individuals in your area to play with ...lol,I know everyone does but just entertain the thought for a moment.

 

Most of society frowns on the idea of hiring a person/persons for the sole intentions of sex, hence the illegal act of prostitution. Please give your opinion and why you would choose so. We are on the fence with this one.

 

I don't know. I know in swinging I have thought "If I had brains I'd be getting paid for this shit vs. doing this for free"

 

LOL, I'm kidding.

Sort of.

[Chicup 41]

Mmmmm I'm not interested in meat puppets.

 

They have to want ME too, if not, no thanks.

[purpletiger 25]

ShellyM said:

I don't know. I know in swinging I have thought "If I had brains I'd be getting paid for this shit vs. doing this for free"

LOL, I'm kidding.

Sort of.

 

The good thing about swinging is you get to choose your playmates :facelick:. If you were getting paid, your playmates would choose you!

[sexcupid 809]

The good thing about swinging is you get to choose your playmates:facelick:. If you were getting paid, your playmates would choose you!

 

lmao....then I might be of the mind set of 'damn...I'm not getting paid ENOUGH for this!'

 

 

I swear, that outside voice needs to behave itself.

 

And to the OP...I have a hard time spending money....not that I am objectionable to it...but I tend to comparision shop, and look around...and look some more...and can be quite indecisive at times. So we might spend half the night trying to 'find' a suitable escort...or we could take our money and go out and have a good time and pick up someone that does enjoy us because we are all having fun, instead of being paid to 'enjoy' us.

 

It is a very fine line to distinguish...but think of it like this: you can tell when your wife or swing partner is just giving a mercy fuck (for lack of a better term...basically they are just not that into it)...or are they responsive and having a good time. The difference is there, even if you are still getting the same thing out of the deal (sex).

 

Maria

[two4youinswva 3,068]

Just like the others, it's the business aspect of it that doesn't do it for us.

 

I feel the same way about strip clubs. When I was 21, and first went to a strip club, it was the coolest thing EVAR!

--But after a couple visits, reality set in. It was all about the cash, and not about me being so hot that she just had to give me a lap dance.

 

I'm not knocking strip clubs. We still go occasionally, because sometimes the dancers show a genuine interest in dancing for Mrs two4you (probably just for the change of pace after 100's of guys). It's just somewhere I don't care to go without Mrs two4you.

 

FWIW: The absolute hottest, sexiest lap dance I ever had? In a swing club. Cost? A kiss on the cheek.

 

So, yeah, I'm narcissistic enough to want to be wanted.

--Or something like that.

[ShellyM 0]

purpletiger said:

The good thing about swinging is you get to choose your playmates :facelick:. If you were getting paid, your playmates would choose you!

 

Are you saying I make shitty choices then?

LOL, I'm teasing you.

[purpletiger 25]

ShellyM said:

Are you saying I make shitty choices then?

LOL, I'm teasing you.

 

Unfortunately , I don't live close enough to find out if you make really bad choices

[2ofakind33 15]

We prefer being wanted and the chase. I have been with my husband 16 yrs, we have patience to wait for that woman, man, or couple. But I totally understand and have thought about the paying for it aspect. But think it has to do with our last couple (arguing couples post).

[mrachel2 15]

prostitute....

When I was younger and a bit wilder, my friends and boyfriend put their $ together and got me for my birthday a male escort.

 

We all went to the bars and ended up at our place where to the surprise of some of our friends I took my BD gift to my room.

 

hat was in 1985ish.. i think they paid around $600 Canadian, that is like $1,000,000 US lol

[Tybee Swing 286]

2chase3 said:

Just wanted to get everyone's opinion on how they would feel about a paid date. (escort,male/female) ...you get the idea.

 

Let's say you were in a situation where you had no individuals in your area to play with...

 

Many couples are looking for FMF with an attractive, drama-free single female, which is next to impossible to find in swinging. I can see the appeal - or at least entertaining the thought - of living out this fantasy with a professional.

 

We've watched shows like HBO's Cathouse and have entertained the thought. The cost is ridiculous, though. For the cost of one hour with a ho, we could have a whole weekend at a swinger's resort.

[cubnamy1995 124]

there is no moral objection for me. Yes, there is a whole world of abuse and even deathly intentions because of drugs, pimps, the streets, etc. But, would me and hubby take a ride to the Bunny Ranch in Vegas, HELL YEAH! These girls beg for the job because they love sex. If someone is that into sex, I have to see what it's all about. It's kind of like fixing your car.......somethings are meant to be done by professionals. not as a common practice, but it would be one hell of a story to talk about having to money and time to go to the LEGAL brothel lay down 20 or 30 grand and see what that can get ya' >

[good times 991]

But, would me and hubby take a ride to the Bunny Ranch in Vegas, HELL YEAH!

Actually, the Bunny Ranch is about 400 miles from Vegas in the opposite corner of the state of Nevada, about 7 hours by car. The Bunny Ranch is about a 20 minute drive from Reno or 10 minutes from Carson City, the state capitol.

[havefuninsun 122]

I have no moral objection to prostitution ... I have no issues with people who go that route. Like a lot of folks, we enjoy the seduction as much as the sex ... sometimes more. So I don't see us doing that personally. But for each his/her own!

[Spoomonkey 421]

good times said:

Actually, the Bunny Ranch is about 400 miles from Vegas in the opposite corner of the state of Nevada, about 7 hours by car. The Bunny Ranch is about a 20 minute drive from Reno or 10 minutes from Carson City, the state capitol.

 

Boy...

 

I'd sure love to have my picture taken there some time...

 

[good times 991]

Boy...

 

I'd sure love to have my picture taken there some time...

Wow, short memory their buddy, don't you remember this....

[iapr 24]

If you are going to do that at least go to a legal regulated brothel in Nevada and not some street ho somewhere turning tricks for her next crack hit.

 

There actually are quite a few couples that do go to the brothels there and for some fairly legitimate reasons. There was a special on HBO about that recently and it featured a swinging couple that went to a brothel for an FMF and the reasons they stated were that not only was it hard to find a single fem but it was really hard to find a single fem that would have an encounter with them on THEIR TERMS. There are single fems that will join you but they want it on their terms and a lot of them are downright flakey and have a lot of issues. The thing that struck me was the couple in this documentary were downright beautiful. They were no ordinary John and Jane Doe swinger, they were hot and they said they had no trouble getting couples or single guys and they even attracted single gals but the single gals always had an agenda of their own and they (they couple) just wanted to have a simple no strings hook up and be done with it (remember the line from Pretty Women, "men don't pay hookers for sex, they pay them to leave when the sex is over.")

 

Personally I see prostitution and swinging as two completely different things with very little in common with each other. But if all you wanted was a simple pain free FMF where you could pick out a drop dead gorgeous 20-something chick and call all your own shots and not have to put up with any of her shit it may be worth the $. Yes a hot chick on a Sat night may run you a couple thousand dollars but that same chick on a Tuesday morning may only be a few hundred. The fact that it is legal, regulated, safe,private and they have monthly VD checks is worth the extra expense.

 

A few years back my spouse and I went to a spa and had a professional massage therapist give us massages and it was fun, relaxing and pleasurable although nonsexual. I really don't see any difference between that and a legal professional prostitute providing a service.

 

If both you are your partner are ok with it I don't see anything wrong with it. It's your $

[lurkergirl 47]

Sure, there's a big difference between swinging and prostitution, let me go ahead and acknowledge that up front so that no one flames me for the rest of my response.

 

I've "dated" male prostitutes in the past, and was fortunate enough that they either really did want me, or were amazing actors. Sure, they always cost me something, but at that time in my life, it was much easier to pay up front and get what I wanted out of the transactions with no negotiations or manipulations, than to go with the extended cost of maintaining a relationship with a non-professional. I was dancing for a living at the time, so there was always a "cost" to me when there was a man in my life, whether it was supporting some schmuck, or just the emotional cost of having to deal with a man dealing with my job.

 

My honey currently has a little gf who is terribly fun and entertaining, but always costs us 50-100 bucks everytime we see her. Not as an outright fee, but just because she's always short of rent, or needs gas money, or whatever. She's just one of those people. It's worth it to me to give her what she needs, because I know she's going to make my honey feel attractive and wanted when she's around. Same thing? I don't know, I don't waste time worrying about it. It is what it is.

 

So obviously, no, I have no moral quandry with prostitution. To me, a good escort is just another toy. I can buy a mondo fucking machine, or I can rent a walking, talking toy that will rub my feet and leave when I'm done with him.

 

I know that some people (obviously not the open-minded, live and let live people found here) would take offense at my viewpoint on it. But, it's their life, let them have at it. Yes, it's nice when the planets align correctly and the elusive unicorn or amazing couple wanders into your life, but I'm not going to let someone elses ideas of what's "right" or "wrong" affect what I do with my sex life. As long as we're all consenting adults, who cares what we're doing behind our closed doors?

[Tybee Swing 286]

My honey currently has a little gf who is terribly fun and entertaining, but always costs us 50-100 bucks everytime we see her. Not as an outright fee, but just because she's always short of rent, or needs gas money, or whatever. She's just one of those people.

 

Compared to the costs of traveling to a swinger's convention, hotel takeover, membership and entrance fees, wining, dining and "dating" couples or women you meet off the 'net and paying for the room, it's actually a bargain price.

[bill&sabrina 22]

I know that some people (obviously not the open-minded, live and let live people found here) would take offense at my viewpoint on it.

 

 

You obviously didn't notice the subtle eyebrow movements in other posts.

[Schmoozie 15]

I am writing this from an Aussie's point of view. In the State of Victoria where I live ( down South) street prostitution is illegal, although brothels and escorts are legal and highly regulated.

 

In the very early days of our swinging, I felt more comfortable paying an escort for his or her company rather that crossing the line with a friend, or picking up someone in a bar. I knew that escort only practised safe sex, and also had to have regular STD tests to be able to keep working, and must also be drug free due to the very strict laws in Australia.

 

We have also visited a brothel that welcomed women and couples as well as men.

 

We still occasionally visit http://www.boardroom.com.au and http://www.gotham-city.com.au to spend time with our favourite girls. They get paid, we spend time with these wonderful ladies and everyone goes home happy with no expectations of what tomorrow may hold.

We have two couples that we met through an Aussie swing site, so we seldom fork out the bucks for one of the girls these days as it costs a months wage for a weekend with them. If I had an unlimited funds I'd hire one of them on a full time basis....LOL

[lurkergirl 47]

Tybee, yep, my thoughts on it exactly....

 

Bill&Sabrina...yeah, those subtle eye movements sometimes escape me

[Vjklander 138]

I wouldn't go in for paid sex, but I have noticed the single males who show up with flowers for the Mrs and a bottle of *good* Scotch for me are always a bit more welcome for repeats.

[SEXYCUBANCOUPLE 7]

We owned an upscale escort service for several years, we did get a ton of clients requesting girls, gay males & she-males to go out to erotic, fetish & swingers clubs, especially older male clients , i see nothing wrong with it if that what you prefer & are willing to pay the services as long as there's nothing illegal!

[Malachista 170]

I have a few women in my family that work(ed) as freelance (as in not working for pimps) prostitutes, so I see it as a job as any other. (And we all have days when the job is more fun then on others)

 

As for paid people in the swing scene:

 

- I know two former single females who offer a service for single males.

They pay her a little fee, drive her to the club and they enter as a couple. They have a first round of sex together and then look if they want to spend the rest of the night together or search for other playmates.

 

 

- There is also a guy who workes as a stipper/escort/porn actor who comes to the club with his wife. He usually also seduces one or two of the single females in the club and on the end of the evening will hand over his business cards if they want to hire him during the week or so

 

As Shelly said, they all love sex, but have found out that they can get paid for it, if they just ask.

The club owners have no problem with them, as they say it is non of their business what people do before or after the party but all three of them are willing to play with people in the club if the time is right without money changing hands

[SEXYCUBANCOUPLE 7]

At our club any conversations or buissness dealing having to do with paid sex or prostitution will get you thorwout right away, tho we've seen several guys come in with what we belive are hired escorts

[jnbsmokin 29]

ummmmm no, I would "handle or buzz" myself first. When somebody actually wants to really f* you, you can tell. We are all about quality over quanity!!!!!!!

[jnbsmokin 29]

Vjklander said:

I wouldn't go in for paid sex, but I have noticed the single males who show up with flowers for the Mrs and a bottle of *good* Scotch for me are always a bit more welcome for repeats.

 

Where we come from, that's just remembering your manners... it's purely a gift,

 

and money ... welll no, we cut a guy off for offering.....

[The Main Course 0]

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