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O.K., I'm not sure if this is the place to put this, but I knew it would be seen, and that Julie could move it if necessary. Back in January, over MLK B'Day weekend, we visited my folks in Miami and decided to go to a club, Trapeze. We had been out of Swinging for quite some time (never really in it that long), but wanted a little excitement and figured we would go "see and be seen". We weren't planning to play with others, but, if the opportunity presented itself properly, sure, maybe, why not?

 

We got to the club and it was pretty well layed out. Nice bar, nice dance floor (kinda sucky music, but we're dance instructors, we're hard to please) and a really nice buffet. The requisite porn was showing on two TVs and the skinny twenty-something girls were on the floor vogue-ing for one another.

 

Most of the crowd was the "not Ken and Barbie" set and were MUCH older than us (we're late 30's to early 40's, most were 50's and up). Now, I am not ranking on the "not Ken and Barbie" folks (we're kinda in that range) or the near-baby boomers. It's simply that we were going to see and be seen and wanted to be surrounded by the young 20-30 something Miami hard bodies that Trapeze is supposedly famous for attracting (all the pics on their site are of said people). Most of the even borderline attractive (to us, I know, please don't hate) women, were partnered with big, bald, bearded, biker looking dudes, which are simply not our taste.

 

Well, we weren't exactly feeling the love, but we thought we'd give the play room a try, if only to see it and play together. As we cautiously walked back there, a very very large (overweight, not foot ball player large), naked man in his mid-fifties, was being ejected from the play room, screaming and yelling, as another man and his partner came out. The second man was bleeding from his face where the first man had punched him and his partner (wife?) was visibly shaken, as were all those around them. This really put a damper on things for us, as well as the others who came out of the room, so my wife and I decided to go enjoy the buffet and then leave.

 

It didn't turn out as planned, but it made for a good story.

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:):)

Well, we weren't exactly feeling the love, but we thought we'd give the play room a try, if only to see it and play together. As we cautiously walked back there, a very very large (overweight, not foot ball player large), naked man in his mid-fifties, was being ejected from the play room, screaming and yelling, as another man and his partner came out. The second man was bleeding from his face where the first man had punched him and his partner (wife?) was visibly shaken, as were all those around them. This really put a damper on things for us, as well as the others who came out of the room, so my wife and I decided to go enjoy the buffet and then leave.

 

It didn't turn out as planned, but it made for a good story.

SOOOO.......how was the buffet?:)

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:lol: That is definitely a good story.

 

Honestly, I wouldn't go by the pictures of clientle on a website. Of course they are going to put the hotties on there to attract a crowd. We normally go to Hippie Hollow in Austin. If you look at the pics on their site, I think they show alot of women (one major pic is a composite/collage type thing on the main page, so of course they can 'make up' whatever they want)...and in reality on the 'average' weekend, the men outnumber the women there at least 4 to 1.

 

Wow...a fist fight in the playroom? Whew...wonder what the story was with that.

 

Eh, if the buffet was good at least it wasn't a total loss. ;)

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Actually, the buffet was pretty good. Hardly gourmet, as they are often billed, but definitely on par with some of the better chain restaurants. Sodas were free too, which was nice.

 

My wife suggested something interesting. that the really attractive people can go to regular bars and get people to hook up with, even in groups. They don't need swingers clubs.

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Always love to here the people were not hot enough for us. Maybe you should stay home and look in the mirror instead. We have been to Trap many times and if someone causes trouble they take care of it. This does not happen often but it can happen. One of the things we like about the club is its all ages and all types, even shallow people are allowed inside.

 

You don't have to do us if we don't meet your standards but to put done others because they are not the hotties you want and still choose to be see at a club well mest be great to be you and I am sure when you get to 50 you will do everyone a favor and never leave the house again.

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Lets see, you said:

 

"Most of the crowd was the "not Ken and Barbie" set and were MUCH older than us (we're late 30's to early 40's, most were 50's and up). Now, I am not ranking on the "not Ken and Barbie" folks (we're kinda in that range) or the near-baby boomers. It's simply that we were going to see and be seen and wanted to be surrounded by the young 20-30 something Miami hard bodies that Trapeze is supposedly famous for attracting (all the pics on their site are of said people)."

 

So, even being 'kinda' in the 'not Ken and Barbie' range, you thought those young 'hardbodies' were going to find you attractive ? That they'd ignore the bodies and age difference in a way you can't about those older and more 'not Ken and Barbie'? How does that work ?

 

Look, we have no problem with your preference, but unless you're going to hit the gym and get in the hardbody range, we think your expectations are just a bit unrealistic.

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O.K. this should cover the last two posts including the person that had the balls to send me a "reputation" without signing it.

 

Here's what they wrote, by the way...

 

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Your not ken and barbi but expect others to be because you paid? Buy a magizine. Clubs are not circus side shows for your cheap thrills!"

 

Actually, we are not ken and Barbie but we are professional dance instructors, so we are pretty damn close, (I was just being modest in my note) and we are entitled to want to be around others who are within the same range. When we are 50, we will hang with our age group. But, we are not.

 

Any other day, I might write something sensitive in reply to your note(s), but today is not that day. Who the hell do any of you think you are to write YOUR notes challenging what we are looking for, or find attractive? The bottom line is that swinging, is about realizing fantasy. You will not find a majority that fantasizes about being surrounded by old, overweight people. Women in Swinging do not fantasize about making it with chubby girls or bald men with small penises. Personalities are great but they can only go so far and overcome so much. Also, if any of you paid close enough attention, you will see that we didn't say we were looking to play with others, just surrounded by others. If we want to go to a club that has a reputation for drawing a young, fit, attractive crowd, in a city where you often must be "at least this hot to walk down this street", then that is our divine right. If we find the reality to be nothing like the fantasy, it's also our divine right to be turned off by that.

 

And, point of fact, yes, clubs ARE circus shows for our, and everyone elses cheap thrills. Otherwise, why go? "Swinging" is a very broad-spectrum word that includes voyerism. And, if you read my note more carefully, you will see that we weren't ruling out playing with others, just not hunting for it. And, at $70+ just to get into a place, it's best not to expect your money's worth in swapping.

 

For you overly sensitive types, please note that we did not pass judgement, we merely stated a preference. Next time, think long and hard before (any of) you choose to pass judgement on others for their experiences or their preferences.

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Hey calm down, I'm not mad at ya... everybody has to be somewhere.

 

The buffet is a touchy subject though, We are watchin our weight....hope it was low cal

 

Lets get to the good stuff... what was the fightin all about :eek:

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I think you went to the club with the wrong expectations. You have every right to expect whatever you want to expect but in the end, when you expect TOO MUCH you get dissapointed and that's what happened here.

 

If all you wanted to do was see and be seen by the hot 20's crowd of Miami you probably should have just gone to a vanilla club to get your groove on then you wouldn't have been upset by paying $70 to get into a club and not seeing hot bodies or having sex.

 

There were parts of your story that definately add up to a bad experience, but in the end, if a club doesn't live up to your expectations it's not the clubs fault.

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Julie, I appreciate your chiming in. The reality is, We went in hoping for, but not expecting our own live action porno. But, again, given the nature of Miami, it wasn't entirely unrealistic to do so. But, this is not our first time in a swinger's club, and we have a sense of reality. The demographic, just made it not what we were looking for. A bit of a let down, but no big thing. The buffet, made it not a total loss, and the fist fight clinched it as a good story.

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I re-read your post and realized it was not an outright attack like some others, so I thought it deserved a polite response. If you note, by the quote you chose, I was simply being clear about our preference, without meaning insult to what we were not looking for. This is no different than saying "listen, we have nothing against, but just aren't attracted to... [insert ethnicity here]"

 

And the kinda not in Ken and Barbie range stems from neither of us being model tall, and me being a bit thinning up top. But my wife is very strikingly beautiful and sexy (not only by my admission, but because I can't keep men away from her). I am cute in features, and run 4-5 miles a day, 5-6 days a week, and do pilates, and we are both professional dance instructors who run our own company, so hard body isn't too far off the mark.

 

And, if you re-read my post, at no time were we looking to be "found attractive" by others. We just wanted to be surrounded by others while we had sex with each other. That eliminates the issue of "why should they choose us?"

 

So, in that we are definitely near the proper attractiveness range that we wished to cavort with (which is, of course, subjective) and because we were not expecting anyone to want us anymore than we wanted them, I think our expectations, or at least our desire for such, was not unrealistic.

 

Again, I appreciate your polite approach and hope I have answered your questions effectively.

 

Lets see, you said:

 

"Most of the crowd was the "not Ken and Barbie" set and were MUCH older than us (we're late 30's to early 40's, most were 50's and up). Now, I am not ranking on the "not Ken and Barbie" folks (we're kinda in that range) or the near-baby boomers. It's simply that we were going to see and be seen and wanted to be surrounded by the young 20-30 something Miami hard bodies that Trapeze is supposedly famous for attracting (all the pics on their site are of said people)."

 

So, even being 'kinda' in the 'not Ken and Barbie' range, you thought those young 'hardbodies' were going to find you attractive ? That they'd ignore the bodies and age difference in a way you can't about those older and more 'not Ken and Barbie'? How does that work ?

 

Look, we have no problem with your preference, but unless you're going to hit the gym and get in the hardbody range, we think your expectations are just a bit unrealistic.

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Hey calm down, I'm not mad at ya... everybody has to be somewhere.

 

The buffet is a touchy subject though, We are watchin our weight....hope it was low cal

 

Lets get to the good stuff... what was the fightin all about :eek:

 

Of course it wasn't low cal. But, we weren't going to have sex (with each other, or friends) and there wasn't a display of Hagen Daz to choose from, so bacon, eggs, sausage and other assorted, nitrate laden breakfast delights had to do.

 

And, no idea what the fight was about. But the big guy was pretty pissed off and didn't like being challenged by the club for his behavior, and the guy with the bruised face was pretty good natured and said, "I didn't lose my hard on, so it wasn't too bad,"

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There are a few parties around our area that we go to play together and enjoy the view :facelick: Usually there are a few very hot couples but they don't always play...many are just into being there, being seen but only dressed to the nines....

 

For playtime with others we do go to the parties where people are older and personality counts way more than looks.

 

I can understand the hope of getting to be around the young ones to watch and being bummed about not finding it. I suspect the economy is partly to blame....at 70 to get in the door, less of the young ones have that to spend right now. But the Fight! OMG....that would have made it a real bummer........

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My wife suggested something interesting. that the really attractive people can go to regular bars and get people to hook up with, even in groups. They don't need swingers clubs.
Not necessarily. We know some very attractive people who go to swing clubs and never hook up with anybody. It's not because they don't want to, it's because they don't know HOW to. It takes more than good looks to be "attractive" to us. It takes personality.

 

One thing about the "young 20-30 something hard bodies" that you were looking for..... their "strike zone" is probably from late teens to around 30. That means they're looking for girls who still have tight flat tummies and perky boobs and men that have 6-packs and full heads of hair and can go all night long. Even if your bodies are in really good shape, your hands, feet, skin, teeth, and libido are still in mid-life. "Early 40's" is only a few years younger than their parents.

 

Does it seem ironic to you that percentage-wise, the people you wanted to hook up with (20's-30's) were about the same age difference from you as the ones you considered "much older" (50's) and wanted to avoid?

 

I still think your story was pretty funny. I wonder what was said (or done) that got that guy clocked?

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I re-read your post and realized it was not an outright attack like some others, so I thought it deserved a polite response. If you note, by the quote you chose, I was simply being clear about our preference, without meaning insult to what we were not looking for. This is no different than saying "listen, we have nothing against, but just aren't attracted to... [insert ethnicity here]"

 

And the kinda not in Ken and Barbie range stems from neither of us being model tall, and me being a bit thinning up top. But my wife is very strikingly beautiful and sexy (not only by my admission, but because I can't keep men away from her). I am cute in features, and run 4-5 miles a day, 5-6 days a week, and do pilates, and we are both professional dance instructors who run our own company, so hard body isn't too far off the mark.

 

And, if you re-read my post, at no time were we looking to be "found attractive" by others. We just wanted to be surrounded by others while we had sex with each other. That eliminates the issue of "why should they choose us?"

 

So, in that we are definitely near the proper attractiveness range that we wished to cavort with (which is, of course, subjective) and because we were not expecting anyone to want us anymore than we wanted them, I think our expectations, or at least our desire for such, was not unrealistic.

 

Again, I appreciate your polite approach and hope I have answered your questions effectively.

 

Disagreement is never a reason to be rude. ANd if you just wanted to have sex with each other, looking at older, larger folks like us should been more of an inspirations, as in "We better have lots of sex now before we become like them". ;)....just a JOKE folks.

 

We seriously would never believe photos of folks at the club being all those young hardbody types. Advertisers have been known exaggerate now and then :rollseye:.

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One thing about the "young 20-30 something hard bodies" that you were looking for..... their "strike zone" is probably from late teens to around 30. That means they're looking for girls who still have tight flat tummies and perky boobs and men that have 6-packs and full heads of hair and can go all night long. Even if your bodies are in really good shape, your hands, feet, skin, teeth, and libido are still in mid-life. "Early 40's" is only a few years younger than their parents.

 

O.K., I realize this is just going to be a case of he said/he said, but, we are really not just mid-lifers who are trying to dodge mid-life. We actually do look like we are in our late 20's (her) to early 30's (me), along with the in shape bodies. At least that's what we get from everyone who discovers our ages (and they aren't even trying to get us into bed!) that's skin, teeth, hands, feet, AND libido (O.K. our 2 year old son does a number on that)

 

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Does it seem ironic to you that percentage-wise, the people you wanted to hook up with (20's-30's) were about the same age difference from you as the ones you considered "much older" (50's) and wanted to avoid?

 

Actually, no. Because we look and much more like 20-30 year olds, and relate to them much more closely than to the 50+ set. Even though it's only 10 years in the opposite direction, as you say, 50 plusers seem much more in the range of our parents age (early to mid-sixties) than the do ours. They also talk and act like they are old enough to be our parents. Again, I don't remember writing about actually seeking to hook up in my original note. We wanted to be in a room, full of hot people having sex, to fuel our fire and, hopefully, for us to fuel theirs. But, actually partnering with others wasn't what we were going for. MAYBE if we were looking for partners, we would have been more forgiving, because personality does enter into it for us if we actually want to have sex with people. But, since we were going for the view only, that never entered into the equation.

 

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I still think your story was pretty funny. I wonder what was said (or done) that got that guy clocked?

 

Not sure. Maybe the guy hit on him? The whole bi thing is standard amongst the women, but not so welcome amongst the men.

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Not sure. Maybe the guy hit on him? The whole bi thing is standard amongst the women, but not so welcome amongst the men.

 

Could be, but my gut tells me that the fat guy intruded into a space where he wasn't welcome, was told to back off, and retaliated. Generally, guys who are having sex are pretty mellow, guys who want to have sex but aren't are pretty aggressive. It's nature at work. Deer and dogs are the same way. "Let me in, or I'll blow your house down"

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"Could be, but my gut tells me that the fat guy intruded into a space where he wasn't welcome, was told to back off, and retaliated. Generally, guys who are having sex are pretty mellow, guys who want to have sex but aren't are pretty aggressive. It's nature at work. Deer and dogs are the same way. "Let me in, or I'll blow your house down"

 

Very astute. I never would have thought of that. I wasn't too confident in my theory, but didn't really have anything to go on. The skinny guy was very mellow, despite the bruising and the larger guy was definitely incensed.

 

We'll, it made for a good story, and, it's like they say, "it's never fun until somebody loses an eye."

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I used to get a kick out of the gals at the clubs where I went who wanted to jump the bones of any guy who was slim and trim. I used to look pretty good with my clothes on when I was around 175 pounds with a 30" waist.

 

The shock on some of those "Ken doll" searchers faces when they spied my 4.5" cock was priceless. :rollseye:

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We are never disappointed at clubs because we always assume the crowd will be 50+ years old and over weight.

 

That way we can be pleasantly surprised if they are in fact in our age range :) In another decade+ I'm sure we will fit right in.

 

Don't take the attacks to hard, you should see what happens when you chime in on a diet thread here some times. This thread has reminded me though I need to really get serious on my diet again, I'm about 10-15 lbs outside of 'swing' range myself right now.

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      I knew I wouldn’t last long because I had almost cum multiple times just watching her. With some of the crowd still watching I got undressed, and slid my wet with pre-cum cock into my wife’s cum-loaded pussy. I fucked her until she started cumming. Her cunt convulsed so hard that it squeezed my cock and made me start to cum. I came in her pussy, mixing my cum with my wife’s new fuck buddies cum. I pulled my cock out and watched it all slowly slide down her ass. She got up and went over to our young fuck buddy and she gave him a long passionate kiss and said thank you for such a great time. He gave her one last little finger fucking and handed her a card of his if we were ever in the area again.
       
      He left after he got dressed and we got cleaned up and went out to the main room. I had multiple people including women and even the bartender say that my wife was one of the women they would like to fuck if they ever got a chance after seeing her in action. I guess I’m the lucky one here.
       
      Later that night when we were driving to our resort, she slipped her hand down pants and put her fingers in her pussy. She brought them out and rubbed them on my face. She smiled and said we gotta do this again sometime as we pulled into the parking lot to call it a night.
       
      And what a night it was.
    • By SPaige24
      My husband and I have been together for almost 10 years. I have always been bi- curious, but kept it as secret until the last month. Little did I know that he had a small feeling (thanks to a few drunk nights with my friend). Our marriage is very strong, and we are very opened with each other. I told him that I wanted to have a have sexual encounter with another female. He is on board, and we even talked about a MFM threesome as well.
       
      Here is my issue... How do I find someone? That friend is no longer a friend, I can't do dating apps because of my job, and I personally don't want someone we know. I have looked into Swinger Clubs, and I realize that finding a bisexual/lesbian female who is single is hard. We are opened to a couple if need be. I just want my husband there and or involved.
       
      My question is... What is it like going to a swingers club? Will there be people our age (27-30), are "predators" real, and how do I find a club? We are located in Washington, PA.
    • By AdamGunn2
      It was a fairly typical night at D.J.s Island, an early autumn evening. Mary and I hadn’t set anything up in advance, we’d decided to go almost at the last moment. From the second we entered the door our radar was beaming across the club, searching for a couple that might be searching for what we were also interested in - an enjoyable tryst.
       
      Mary took a few minutes to change into what she called a ‘trolling outfit.’ As I remember, that night it was a black babydoll with a loose bodice, thong, low heels. Many men admired her legs as I checked the forty or so women, many as scantily clad as my wife. None of our regular playmates seemed to be in attendance that evening, but we had our customs, we weren’t concerned. Perhaps an hour and a half later, I sat at a table next to the dance floor, Mary was on her feet, on the parquet, moving her body, seeing if anyone would move in. A slow sequence of men approached her, danced with her. Some would take liberties such as moving their hands under her garment, feeling the small of her back, perhaps place their palm on the roundness of her ass.
       
      I’d seen this many times before, I waited for one of two reactions.
       
      The first was that she’d spin away from the man; it signified she wasn’t interested in what he had to offer.
       
      The second was that she’d get closer, I’d watch her whisper in his ear. I knew the question, “Where’s your wife?” Some of them would shake their heads, they were attending as one of the few single men the club allowed, and when they received Mary’s response, they’d move away - that’s not what we were looking for at the moment.
       
      But the man might indicate where his wife was dancing a few feet away. When this kind of thing happened, Mary would glance to me and give our special signal - she’d put one hand on the back of her head, one on her stomach. When I got the cue, I’d come out, we’d dance as a foursome.
       
      As I approached, a man grasped the elbow of a tall attractive lady who was more modestly dressed, at least for the club. There was no conversation on the dance floor, the heavy volume of music and the thumping of the bass wouldn’t allow for speech. But I could tell the woman was interested in me, the four of us paired off and I often found myself facing this vixen. It was obvious they were as interested in us as I was in them, I could tell by the way Mary was rubbing against the man that she felt the same.
       
      After a couple of songs, Mary led the way off the floor, holding his hand, leading us off into a corner away from the speakers. As we sat, the man said, “I’m Ed, this is my wife, Marilyn.”
       
      Marilyn and I softly shook hands, I believe she raised the hem of her skirt to give me a view of her upper thighs. Ed had no problem seeing Mary’s legs, or where they met - she was sitting so that the babydoll was gathered to her side, leaning forward so her globes were exposed to his view.
       
      “Do you come here often?” Ed asked.
       
      “Every few weeks,” I responded, “you?”
       
      “This is our first time here.” Mary gave him a look that asked for further info. “We’re just starting this,” he admitted.
       
      Marilyn picked it up. “We’ve only had one time with a couple of friends. We liked it, heard about this place, decided to see if we could get into more trouble.”
       
      “Trouble’s our middle name,” I joked.
       
      Our conversation continued, where do you live, what movies have you seen lately, etc. It was a screen, of course, we were all calculating if the four of us would be pleasurable bedmates. I paid my attention to Marilyn, my wife had told me numerous times not to worry about her, she can take care of herself. My hand found Marilyn’s knee, she smiled at me, encouraged me to reach a tad higher. We bent towards each other, our mouths met.
       
      Marilyn opened her lips to me, the kiss was ardent, her mouth moist. She licked at my upper lip, her hand fondled the back of my neck. Our tongues clashed, promising cupidity, mimicking what I presumed our bodies might be doing in a few scant moments.
       
      We broke for a moment, Marilyn invited, “Would you guys want to go to one of the rooms?”
       
      I, of course, was all for it, but then I heard Mary. “Uh, not right now. But thanks.”
       
      We’ve always had the guideline that if one person doesn’t want to do something, she speaks for both of us. Regretfully, I pecked at Marilyn’s lips a last time, we stood, went separate ways.
       
      “You’re not upset, are you?” Mary asked me.
       
      “Of course not, not at all. You’re not in the mood?”
       
      “Oh, I’m in the mood all right, just not with Ed.”
       
      “Something wrong with him?” I asked.
       
      “I tried to get him interested,” Mary revealed, “but his kiss was a little cold, indifferent. I put my hand on his leg, he was too busy watching you and Marilyn, he never responded. My guess is that if we went into a room, he’d be watching you two, I’m not even sure he’d get hard for me.” It was a reasonable thought, it had happened to us a couple times before. “Hope you don’t mind, bet she’d have been a firecracker.”
       
      “Maybe. But you’re a firecracker too.”
       
      We headed back to the dance floor, in search of another couple.
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