Do bi-fem couples full swap more than straight couples?

[gnb4u 15]

There was a thread on another forum where a straight couple was complaining how hard it was to find other couples for full swap opportunities. The thread was written by a straight fem and she was complaining how all the attention and play time was going to the bi-fem couples.

 

Since our female half is primarily straight too we have often felt left out a lot as well and I could feel some of this posters pain.

 

However there was another post that made me go, "hmmm?" and reconsider that assumption. It was suggested that bi-fem couples do get more play time but perhaps not more "full swap" play time. True the couples with bi-fems probably see a lot more naked play time but how much of that is spent with the girls rolling around and how much of it is spent full swapping.

 

Since a straight couple's objective is going to be some kind of swap (soft or full) are they really being left in the shadows of the bi-fem couples or are the full swap rates fairly similar to the bi-fem couples? In this thread it was even suggested that straight couples may actually full swap more than bi couples since a lot of the bi couples probably just girl/girl play and leave it at that.

 

I realize there are no true statistics to back up any of this but I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Do you think bi-fem couples "FULL SWAP" more or less or the same amount as primarily straight couples?

[des1re06 200]

Interesting question.

 

As part of a bi-fem couple, I can say that we've had no straight/straight couples contact us - ever! Even though our profile states that the FF play is not a requirement. It seems couples think we're going to try to initiate that sort of play.

 

There are many times that we just want a straight full swap, and tend to only find that at house parties.

 

As a test, I changed my status to "bi-curious", and have gotten alot more responses on SLS. I wonder if we're only in the mood for straight sex if we'd get more response if we changed our status to straight/straight?

 

The majority of our contact seem to want the FF sex, so we're not getting as much Full swap as we'd like. Much more soft swap; at least for us.

 

 

 

Mrs. D

[Ed & Bunny 160]

Interesting question.

 

As part of a bi-fem couple, I can say that we've had no straight/straight couples contact us - ever! Even though our profile states that the FF play is not a requirement. It seems couples think we're going to try to initiate that sort of play.

Mrs. D

 

I must say in response to this that we are a bit guilty of being hesitant to contact couples with fully bi women. It is not because we are worried about the gals being inapropriate though. It is more because after opening more than a few profiles of bi fem couples and seeing they only want single females or couples with bi women, we just dont even look in the profiles any more. With us being free members at this time it saves on our alloted looks into profiles. So unless they contact us, its not going to happen. As for playing, we have no problem as long as they have no problem with Bunny being strait.

[sweet_tna 680]

It may just be our experience, but of the couples we've full swapped with, most had a bi-curious female and we had little contact with each other. On most of the occasions we've played with a couple with a bi female, it was only soft swap. I think this is because those particular couples are into swinging primarily for the F/F play.

 

=)

[realcplub2 513]

I tend to think the problem is that, More often than not, the concern is that..

 

The straight woman is concerned about being the target of unwanted advances by the other woman..

 

Look folks, lets be honest.. When we are in intial talks with ANYONE, the basic ground rules are discussed.. If this is a concern.. SAY SO!

 

WTF.. How about this.. Suppose for the sake of arguement it wasnt the Bi issue rather it was the issue of I dunno.. ANAL SEX?!? Are you gonna leave your preferences VAGUE?

 

We all are SUPPOSED to respect the whole NO MEANS NO.. So lets face the issue head on.. Are you afraid a Bi Woman can't keep her hands off of the Str8 woman..

 

While yes being Bi adds a whole new dimension of play.. there are still PLENTY of things 2 couples can do without crossing anyones "LINES"..

[two42lovers 273]

We are a bi-female, straight-male couple. We've soft swaped only three or four times, but full swapped many dozens of times. We play with a lot of couples with bi females, and a lot of couples with straight females. In most cases the main course, by far, is straight sex. Either way, full swap F/M sex is definately the main event.

 

Now if you looked at their profiles, a lot of the women I'm calling straight are listed as bi-curious. They tend to dabble a bit with bisexuality, but at most it's a little warm up play before the main course. (Nothing wrong with that - after all, they specificially are saying they are NOT bi - only curious.)

 

To know how a couple plays, we look to see if they are full swap and play with solo guys. If they play MFM, (as well as FMF and MFMF) they are invariably a couple with few hang ups or jealousies. They tend to be comfortable in the lifestyle. There are LOTS of couples who won't play with solo guys who still are "get down to business" couples, but the couples who are comfortable playing with solo guys seem to always be genuine players.

[arvcpl 16]

My wife is mostly straight and used to be afraid of bifemales but over time the majority of our full swap experiences have been with couples with bifems and she has very rarely ever been made uncomfortable by them. There are couples out there that have actual policies against any kind of M/F swap but other than those my experience has been that if a bisexual female is properly charmed and entertained by a male she finds attractive she forgets all about the ladies.

[JustMrJ 178]

This was one of my wife's first fears about contacting couples or meeting people at parties. She was concerned that the BiFems would make advances, which would make her VERY uncomfortable.

 

She found this was not the case. All she had to do was state she was straight and they were very nice about not making advances.

 

She now feels to be close to several of the ladies at the parties and has given kisses good night and such, which she thought she would find a turn off. They are not making a pass at her so much as just being good people.

 

I think it's a combination of the fear of the Straight Females and the profiles that are looking for lots of F/F play that turn away a lot of full swap play.

[Cottman Ave 15]

Like most of you, the majority of our partners are fem bi male straight

If I said that right, this lingo is new to us.

The ff entertainment I found is more for my benefit than bryans as its becoming more apparant he is enjoying me with men a lot more.

 

We have yet to find a straight straight cpl out of the 4 gatherings we attended/hosted

[theflamekasters 20]

the mrs is very bi passive, she wont make the first move on a woman, and is very picky about the woman she will play with, we have never had a problem with a bi-fem cpl not wanting to play with us becuase of that. We have a couple of couples that the girls want to play with the mrs and it just hasnt happened yet! We play with a single girl that truely likes cock and pussy equally and that is fun for both of us!!

 

We do stay away from cpls on sls that say girl MUST be bi!

But to answer the question, i dont see why a str8 cpl should have any trouble finding people to play with

[photoboxer 15]

Hi, we been swinging for almost a year, we are both stright. We attend many house & event parties, but as we come to see we both see very little play time with other couples that have a bi-female. She can't not take women trying to make a move on her and even when getting it stright to the couple we do hook up with, which has happen...the female always works her way to my wife to rub and touch her. We are both very fit, we workout 6 days a week, so it's not a out of shape thing. And to this day we have not been to an event or house party where there has been a real stright woman. I as a man can do a hot dates on Swing Lifestyle and get bi-men hitting me up...which I have no intrest at all. On the other hand put my wife on a hot dates list saying...Looking a male for MFM 3-some and I get all kinds of emails and im's from the guys and some women. My wife does not seem to understand, "she always says, she wants you". I tell her yea, but at the price of throwing you in the deal...lol... So, I kind of have thrown in the towel...and it's not my her fault (my wife) that it's like that, but I now just do the hot dates and get her MFM and moresomes. I could be going to the wrong parties, correct me if I'm wrong, but we been to many different locations and see the same.

 

thanks

[Just Passing By 140]

Right off the bat our experiences were not typical for various and cumulative reasons.

 

Scratched my head , couldn't think of any females that didn't have any F/F contact. Some were more perfunctory than others. Ironically wouldn't have been a problem for cpl w/ non biF , just never came up.

 

No shortage of M/F full action though.

[BigNikki 44]

Big Nikki here.

 

Oh this topic is so interesting (says a very bi- female).

 

Here's my take on it: In swing, women tend to lead and action tends to center around attractive willing women. So it should be no surprise that couples with bi-fems might get more action.

 

Not being especially attractive (but definitely being especially willing) I don't think John and I get more full-swap action than others. For us it mostly takes my forward nature ("Let's fuck!") to get things going.

 

Bless you natural bi- beauties, but John and I have to work at it.

 

-- Big Nikki

[MN Tom 251]

Well, we do very little cold contacting to begin with, but we do pretty much ignore the labels and instead go by what the profile has written.

 

If the profile says bi-fem play is highly encouraged or desired, we pass them up. If they are labeled as bi-whatever (aside from gay/lesbian, although we've seen very few of those) we dont mind as long as their profile isnt highly focused on bi-fem play.

 

We've been cold contacted by people who have strong bi-fem play wordings on their profile, and they have said things such as "dont worry, we play straight too" and that works.

 

As far as swapping more, I dont know if I would go that far. I think it's "easier" and you have more potential contacts if you have some bi category listed on your profile, but sheer volume of swaps are vastly more controlled by willingness, pickyness, availability and desireability.

 

We are listed as both straight and we could have swaps every night we chose if we wanted. Yeah it would take some work to fill every timeslot, but it could be done. Our pickyness and availability though limit our playtime moreso than any category we choose on the profile.

[BigNikki 44]

Big Nikki here.

sheer volume of swaps are vastly more controlled by willingness, pickyness, availability and desireability.

 

I'm so glad I'm not picky. That was God's gift to my swinging. I can be attracted to practically every creature on God's earth.

 

I don't know if it's innate in my sexuality or something that grew out of my knowing that I'm about as physically neutral in attraction as a girl can be (no curves, etc). But anyway my lack of pickyness give me some real advantages over others in the crowd:

 

I can enjoy having sex with just about anyone. There's always someone for me at the party because there's always someone who is being neglected by the picky. And my overdose of Compassion for the neglected gives me points in my family's religion #2; never hurts to earn points.

 

Sorry for going further of-topic, but there is a thread in this thread that I wanted to respond to.

 

-- Big Nikki

[MN Tom 251]

Big Nikki here.

 

 

I'm so glad I'm not picky. That was God's gift to my swinging. I can be attracted to practically every creature on God's earth.

 

I don't know if it's innate in my sexuality or something that grew out of my knowing that I'm about as physically neutral in attraction as a girl can be (no curves, etc). But anyway my lack of pickyness give me some real advantages over others in the crowd:

 

I can enjoy having sex with just about anyone. There's always someone for me at the party because there's always someone who is being neglected by the picky. And my overdose of Compassion for the neglected gives me points in my family's religion #2; never hurts to earn points.

 

Sorry for going further of-topic, but there is a thread in this thread that I wanted to respond to.

 

-- Big Nikki

 

 

Hey I see you on the pickyness aspect. And we do have some pickyness, one of us more than the other, but it's how it is. It's changing over time for both of us, when we first started it was a very narrow range, and it's widening as we experience more. It's definitely a limiter for a lot of folks, we've all seen a party which had a decent turnout and yet there are some sourpusses in the corner who will complain that the crowd wasnt what they expected.

[BigNikki 44]

Big Nikki here.

Hey I see you on the pickyness aspect. . .

 

And I hear you too.

 

I'm really glad I'm not picky (at least, not picky about physical "beauty").

 

And John and I don't just hunt out the people who are getting no action because they're easy, willing and grateful. Heck, though I (not we) are of no particular physical appeal, we can have just about anyone in the room, because we're very good at seduction.

 

But the neglected in the room can very eager, lively partners -- in short great people to do it with. The Compassion points earned in Nirvana are just icing on the cake. Too bad Christianity doesn't emphasize Compassion, or more swingers aren't Buddhist.

 

-- Big Nikki

[Dont.Stop 339]

I was initially a lot pickier than I am now. I am still more picky than Mrs, but the more we play and the more fun women I come across, the better I am at going for the right personality and mindset in a female.

 

I can say the last two women I had the pleasure of pleasuring I probably wouldn't have been interested in when we started a few months ago. Turns out they were both quite enjoyable giving and receiving.

 

I do admit that looks still play at least a small part though. Knowing this makes it easier when another couple says "No thanks."

[Tia Vampire 167]

We do not look at profiles where the woman is bi or bi curious. Not because we are afraid that bi woman will not be able to keep their hands to themselves, but because we both want to play. We are not in this just to fulfill my fantisies. Being co host of swing parties, we have only seen bi women soft swap or just flirt on the dance floor to get the guys going. We have seen more play with full swap couples.

[pakandj 15]

We are bi female/ straight male couple and we have played many times where even though both females were bi we did not play with each other. It is important to me for my husband to play and to enjoy himself too.