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As all whose read my other post, you all know that i have been thinking of throwing a MFM for my partner, she loved the idea, and honestly was very much excited about it, and honestly to tell the truth the more excited she got, the more it turned me on, anyways after having it be a talking fantasy, I decided to take steps to fulfill her fantasy of having two toys to play with, while two of us please her body like never before, Anyways i decided it was probably best to invite a known friend, actually i asked two different people, both of whom i trust, and know would never go behind my back to try to get a one on one hook up with my partner, anyways from here we decided Christmas Eve night would be the best time, we went out looking for a sexy Xmas outfit for her, and boy did we find one, (Just thinking about it has me hard...) Anyways as time came near you could just see the excitement coming off of her from her very smiles that showed so often, and believe me no nothing was putting this good mood off track, which really made me want to give this fulfilling a go...

 

UNFORTUNATELY! Both of my good friends chickened out, of course i was only planning to have one of them join us, as having both of them would probably be too much for the first time...

But both of them suddenly decided that they couldn't or didn't want to, I tried reassuring them that it was cool, that i invited them, and our friendship wouldn't be harmed, and it would be really fun we have rules and we'll do all the right steps to make sure everyone was comfortable...

But regardless, one of them felt that he was not ready for it and that he had to much going on, that maybe one day but not now, and the other started losing his nerve mostly because of a problem he had, apparently because of smoking there were times he couldn't get it up, and no matter how much comforting, he felt too nervous to give it a shot.

 

Quickly after my partner felt she wasn't as sure of having one with a stranger, and that she felt much better knowing that these people were people i had known, and on realizing this may not happen you could see that smile and drive fade down, i tried to talk them back into it, but lets face it, we can't force a person into something, the worst part is since that day i haven't seen that same excitement in her, and so I really want to get someone, a right someone to come join us, not just to put those great smiles back on her face, but i have to say, when she was as happy as she was, sexually things would getting interesting, and lets put it this way, I'm some what like a cat, i tend to really go through heat phases where i become extremely wild and crave something hot, and unless i have something satisfying that craving heat doesn't go away, just continues to build...

 

I honestly do have some worries, but nothing i haven't talked about with her, and really do believe that the only way I'll shake these worries in my mind is if i give it a try, and fulfill this MFM, lets face it i know it turns me on, even compared to before, my own fantasies have started to stray towards this kind of thing, making me cum harder and just feel that much wilder...

 

I have someone I'm currently talking to, who i may eventually be interested in having us join, but only time will tell if i continue to feel the same about him, my partner is clearly expecting me to take the lead in setting this up, and picking the person, most likely just very excited in fulfilling her fantasy and wanting to have me be completely alright with the person...

 

Anyways if anyone has any thoughts on this feel free to drop a thought...

But i think my question that is crossing my mind now is, would it be wrong to pick a random guy whom we both find attractive enough to join, and have a fling? Would that be a Safe thing to do? Or would it be best to continue to wait and slowly pick a person to have this first time MFM?

 

For those of you who randomly picked a stranger and played a fling how did it go?

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There are valid arguments on both sides of the stranger/friend debate. Ultimately it will come down to what you're both comfortable with (and what that is may change over time). My two cents is that swinging with an "unknown" guy is no more dangerous than dating the same guy in the vanilla world.

 

For our part we've had no luck with anonymous single guys (they sometimes get cold feet too) and a tough time recruiting casual acquaintances - they love the idea of banging my wife 'til she tells them she's swinging not cheating and that I'll know what goes on between them. Somehow that scares them off, it doesn't make any sense to me :confused:. We started in our teens with my best friend, long before we knew anything about "The Lifestyle". It was a great way FOR US to start because, as you mentioned, I trusted him which made everything much easier from a jealousy standpoint.

 

As for the peeks and valleys of her interest in a MFM, I can only suggest that you keep the fantasy going by talking about it, especially in the bedroom!

 

Good luck!

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Definitely not a friend. You saw already how awkward it made them feel.

 

We pick single males based on their knowledge of the lifestyle and how respectful they are of our relationship. There are many men available who are likable and understand what you're looking for.

 

If you feel the need to form a friendship beforehand, then do so. It's really quite simple. Look through the ads on whatever site you belong to and pick a few to meet in person before you involve your wife. Do find out what type of man she's interested in. You may be surprised that her fantasy man is nothing like you imagined.

 

You'll be able to get a feel for whether you're comfortable introducing them. If they won't meet with you first, then that throws the respect out the window.

 

Good luck!

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Have to agree with BiloxiCouple and say let her decide.

 

I also have to agree with them and say a club or online is a good bet. Even though we've never been to a club, we have had excellent luck online. :)

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Your friends chickening-out is really no surprise to me. In our experience many men get weirded-out with the concept of being able to fuck someone else's wife and the husband being okay with it, much less being in the same room at the same time AND being naked. It's eros (maybe ego) overload for a man.

 

I wrote a long blog about this a while back, what I call "The Cheating Wife Syndrome", where men are turned-on by the concept of a cheating wife, but are freaked-out by the idea of a wife having permission to play, or even at the idea of meeting the husband.

 

That, and as you mentioned, when they are friends it makes it even weirder.

 

We've met many men through swinger dating sites and have "interviewed" each of them via dinner and drinks together as a threesome. On some occasions there has been enough chemistry that it's game-on that night. Other times it just hasn't been there and we move-on to the next candidate.

 

One thing that is important to us is that this is a process we do together. We both have to be comfortable with the other person, whether it's another man or woman. Also, just because I think a guy is a great candidate for a threesome with us doesn't mean that Mrs. WS will have any attraction to him. So having her part of the process of finding a third is paramount for us.

 

So my advice is to involve your wife in more of the process. That may make her more excited about it, also. This is a "us" thing, not just a "you" thing. Be partners in crime.

 

And as a final note, in our experience it is easier to make friends out of swingers than swingers out of friends.

 

Mr. WS

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We considered a good friend as our first but we were the ones with reservations. We were afraid it would harm the friendship we had so we never approached him about it. Our first was a gentleman we found on SLS.We met him in a public setting to get to know him and see if there was a sexual attraction. He was very respectful and very well mannered at all times. We all got along great and our first time happened that evening.

 

We still look for guys through on line ads, the Mrs. decides who she might be interested in. We exchange a few e-mails and / or chat on line to get a feel for the person she is interested in. If that goes well then we set up a meeting, we always tell our prospective partner there are NO expectations to play on the first meet. If either of us get a bad "vibe" from the initial meeting we walk away, it has happened a couple of times. In one instance there was no sexual attraction on her part and the other just didn't "feel" right ( felt like he had some kind of hidden agenda). Mrs. Red always knows after a few minutes if she wants to play or not and I can usually sense this in her.

 

To answer your question the sex with strangers is what turns us on the most. I'm not quite sure how to explain it, maybe it has to do with the unknown, finding a new partners likes and dislikes or what he brings to the table as far as pleasuring the Mrs. We have had several play sessions over the last few months and each one was unique and erotic in its own way. All were very exciting and enjoyable. We would like to eventually find a "regular" someone we could play with when the mood arises, but for now we enjoy the chase and the seduction with new people.

 

I will say it can be time consuming and involves some work to find the right person through on line ads. You will get some weird to obnoxious messages but you just have take the bad with the good. You should let her make the choices and discuss who she is interested in together, both of you should be involved at all times. A club would probably be a much faster way to hook up with someone, but that just isn't our style. If you are anxious to make something happen soon, it may be a consideration for you. Find a local club and check it out, you may find what you are looking for or you may not. Just because you are there does not mean you have to hook up with anyone.

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As for swinging with otherwise vanilla friends, what they all said above. Yes, it can work out, but it can also end badly.

 

We knew nothing at all about the lifestyle when we had our first MFM, and the internet wasn't around then - I hadn't heard of it yet anyway. Lin knew a guy from work that she had flirted with heavily, and when we finally decided to go for it, he was the one she chose. They didn't work together - he worked in a different office - but they saw each other several times a day, and there was a lot of sexy banter back and forth between them. She has always been a flirt, so this was easy for her. I met him, and she flirted with him pretty heavily with me there to let him know that I knew about everything, and was fine with it.

 

One day she raised the bar to the top notch and told him that she wanted to experience an MFM threesome, and that he was the guy she wanted to help us make it happen. By this time the guy had sensed that she wasn't all talk and no action, but was hesitant to try anything. Well, he jumped at the chance. The following weekend, he came over, and the rest, as they say, is history.

 

Knowing now what we didn't know then, it probably wasn't the best way to go about meeting a first candidate for an MFM threesome, but at the time we didn't know any better. I would now advise people asking about such a circumstance to avoid it. It did work out for us, but it could have just as easily gone badly.

 

You basically have five options when it comes to meeting men already in the lifestyle for a threesome: online, swinger's clubs, swinger's resorts, house parties, and lifestyle events. Don't be too quick to say no to any of them. We have met some very decent guys at clubs, parties, and events, as well as online (we haven't been to a resort yet.) Sure, you have to wade through some posers, flakes, fakes, and married men looking for a little on the side, but nothing worth having is ever simple.

 

I do think she should become more involved in selecting candidates for this first adventure - after all, she's the one who is going to decide whether or not anything goes beyond a handshake or not. And it's all about her pleasure, right?

 

If it were us starting out fresh, I'd suggest that we create an online profile at one of the swinger's sites, browse around, and see who is out there in our area. I'd suggest that we look at the gentlemen carefully, make a note on the profiles of the ones she was interested in possibly contacting, then discuss things further with her. When she had decided on a couple of gentlemen she wanted to contact, I would write the initial e-mail suggesting to the gentleman that we meet over coffee in a neutral place to get to know one another a bit, then let her read and approve it. When we had both agreed to it, I'd send it. We would let him know that our meeting IN NO WAY meant that we were going to play on the first meeting day. After the meeting, we'd discuss it on the way home (and a lot further for a couple of days,) and if everything was ok to everyone, we could move on to schedule a play date. That play date would take place in a hotel, and NOT our home or his.

 

Please understand that everything I just described is with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. We've made our share of mistakes along the way - nothing major, mind you. We've gotten mixed signals from friends and acquaintances, and have probably missed out on a lot of good times because we tend to err on the side of caution by not pursuing things. We also have avoided a lot of drama and lost friendships, so I think it all balances out in the wash.

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:iagree: MrkLin said it all very well! Read what he stated very carefully.

 

We entered the lifestyle with MFM, with my husband's best friend of almost 20 years. He does not live anywhere close to us, was in town to visit, and he and his wife have been swingers for a few years. So while he was a "vanilla" friend to us, he was at least somewhat into the lifestyle. It was a great way to start! No regrets, still close friends. But then again, we haven't seen each other in person since.

 

Our 2nd MFM was with a close friend of both of ours that does live closeby, and he had been involved with MFM years ago with an ex-girlfriend. However, I will honestly say that it has strained our friendships. Jealousy from Mr. NC, as well as awkardness between the 3 of us, we haven't played in a month after 2 tries. He is very close to our children, who call them "uncle", and spends a lot of time with us as a family. We are trying very hard, all 3, to restore the friendship back to what it was.

 

Long story short - I think anyone that you meet in the vanilla world should stay that way. While it may seem more comfortable to start with someone you or she already know and are comfortable with, you cannot predict how everyone will feel about it the next day, a week later, or a month later. Try a local club - do they have nights that single men are admitted? Ours does on Friday nights. Create a profile on other search sites - there are plenty of single man that are already involved in the lifestyle that better understand a couple wanting to share this experience.

 

And as you've read above, you will have to wade through the profiles. We recently received an email from a single man - "Got 10" hard for u baby" - my response? "Is that really your pickup line? Good luck". Do not get discouraged - she will know who interests her and who doesn't, and together you meet them and decide whether or not to take it to the next level.

 

Out of curiousity - why is it that you want to start with a single man instead of looking for couples to share the experience together with?

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Yeah, when i first asked them, they were almost excited, but as time came closer they started to seem to lose nerve when they realized that it was probably going to happen, which sucks because having people like them whom i trust enough to really be comfortable with, would have been great...

But I do think it would be good to have some kind of bond going before anything...

 

And oh yeah! Me and my partner have talked a lot before we even considered asking those friends, and so I know exactly what kinds of guys she's interested in, which does make things that much more interesting...

 

Anyways thanks for the reply! Happy New Years!

 

 

Definitely not a friend. You saw already how awkward it made them feel.

 

We pick single males based on their knowledge of the lifestyle and how respectful they are of our relationship. There are many men available who are likable and understand what you're looking for.

 

If you feel the need to form a friendship beforehand, then do so. It's really quite simple. Look through the ads on whatever site you belong to and pick a few to meet in person before you involve your wife. Do find out what type of man she's interested in. You may be surprised that her fantasy man is nothing like you imagined.

 

You'll be able to get a feel for whether you're comfortable introducing them. If they won't meet with you first, then that throws the respect out the window.

 

Good luck!

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Hey,

 

Thanks for your post, i agree with it very much...

As far as having her be a part of the process as much as possible i try to get her in it as much as i can, but she has also made it very clear that shes just very shy about it all, and rather have me doing most of the finding and such, although slowly i have been getting her to open up more, so far she still rather leave the picking part to me, but now is open enough to come meet the potential choice i find for dinner or the "interviewing stage"

I hope sooner then later, I can awaken the wild side within her completely, but at the same time seeing her becoming more and more involved, step by step really does make things fun.

 

"it is easier to make friends out of swingers than swingers out of friends."

I can't agree more!

 

Your friends chickening-out is really no surprise to me. In our experience many men get weirded-out with the concept of being able to fuck someone else's wife and the husband being okay with it, much less being in the same room at the same time AND being naked. It's eros (maybe ego) overload for a man.

 

I wrote a long blog about this a while back, what I call "The Cheating Wife Syndrome", where men are turned-on by the concept of a cheating wife, but are freaked-out by the idea of a wife having permission to play, or even at the idea of meeting the husband.

 

That, and as you mentioned, when they are friends it makes it even weirder.

 

We've met many men through swinger dating sites and have "interviewed" each of them via dinner and drinks together as a threesome. On some occasions there has been enough chemistry that it's game-on that night. Other times it just hasn't been there and we move-on to the next candidate.

 

One thing that is important to us is that this is a process we do together. We both have to be comfortable with the other person, whether it's another man or woman. Also, just because I think a guy is a great candidate for a threesome with us doesn't mean that Mrs. WS will have any attraction to him. So having her part of the process of finding a third is paramount for us.

 

So my advice is to involve your wife in more of the process. That may make her more excited about it, also. This is a "us" thing, not just a "you" thing. Be partners in crime.

 

And as a final note, in our experience it is easier to make friends out of swingers than swingers out of friends.

 

Mr. WS

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Hey thanks for the reply!

 

Well the thing was, in conversation we were thinking of having a 3some with another girl to kick start our first experience in a three way, as usually being with two girls at once is something most males dream of having, on her part she was really new to the whole idea never really considering having another join, Other then that, the truth is sex wise I'm the only man she's ever been with, and after years of playing and enjoying each other in many ways, we decided it may be interesting to have another join, and since she has only been with me, she strongly felt that having one persons at a time was something she would like to start with...

Anyways as time passed I was able to have her open up more and more sexually with me, and started to encourage her to really just let loose, she eventually decided like my fantasy of having two girls at once, she thought it would be amazingly sexy if she could have two guys, and at first we agreed that alright first we would invite a girl to join us, and see how it plays out, then we'll find a right guy, and see how that was, as things started to become hotter between us, the issue that I was her first and only came up, whereas for me I've had my share of sexual partners, and as our conversations grew in depth, and as her fantasy began to grow on me, we together decided well for the first time why not make it a MFM instead? I mean I haven't been with two girls yet, but that doesn't change the fact that i have been with many girls, and experience wise she has only felt the best and better that i have, and never the best someone else has to offer, and so that's how we came to deciding that we want to start with a MFM...

 

Honestly though, at first i had many hang ups over the idea, I wasn't sure at first if i would be ok with another guy joining, even though the very idea of this naughty fantasy did pinch a arousing cord within me, but over time i started to feel that it was no different really then say a FMF, and topping that was that very fact that the more i saw the fantasy turn her on, the more i thought about her pleasure and moaning double, the more it grew on me... And now I've reached a point where when masturbating or having sex the fantasy of seeing her working me and another guy drives me crazy, i find that i cum harder and just feel that much more wild, compared to when i now fantasize about having a FMF...

 

Although the idea of having another couple join us really is a turn on, i don't think we're ready for that, and rather take on one person at a time feeling more comfortable with one person to fill some positions, but I'm sure after the first few 3somes we'll start looking for hot sexy couples to join us, as we both share a fantasy of laying back and watching another couple work us while we glace over to see one another in moaning pleasure...:hahaha:

 

 

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Out of curiousity - why is it that you want to start with a single man instead of looking for couples to share the experience together with?

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IMHO, nothing kills a friendship quicker than knowing what they look like when they're fucking. My reasoning for saying this is simple: Most, if not all friendships are based on a certain level of balance. I'm smarter, but he can run the 40 in 4 seconds/she's the better cook, but I'm better at keeping to a budget/He's a math whiz, but I can finish a 1,000 page novel in a day, that sort of thing. And as long as those barriers are maintained, they can usually agree (or agree to disagree) on almost anything. But, to paraphrase a rap lyric from the good old days, shit gets different when there's feelings involved. And sex, apart from the most basic "one night stand with the chick/stud I met at the club" variety, always involves lots of feelings.

 

Sure, you may know that your buddy's big enough to wear a wristwatch without worrying about tan lines, or you may have heard your BFF referred to as "Multi-Orgasmic Mary", but (for the most part) you won't get into too many details about what your friend's bedroom repertoire may entail. Personally speaking, barring my swinger friends (of course), I know almost nothing about my friends' sex lives (except to know when someone's hit a dry spell or vice versa). And there's a reason.

 

Bottom line, sex is one of those things that can become very touchy very quickly. When you've made a lifetime of good memories (fishing trips, college graduation, first workplace promotions, etc.) with a guy, it's disconcerting to discover that your previously balanced relationship tilts in his direction (due to his massive schlong/ability to hold his breath and not get bored or distracted/leet massage technique/etc.) If you don't actually know about his skills, it's easy to build yourself up as a competent, if not supremely talented lover. But, when you're staring at him as he pistons in and out of your girlfriend and her legs wrap themselves around his waist, that's where the self-doubt begins to creep in. Or, vice versa for the perceived "stud", as he learns that his high-school level of fucking only impresses women who are on the marriage prowl and therefore willing to accept a few flaws if the final prize is something to be admired (hopefully with thoughts that they can change that part of the relationship when rings get involved). It's easy to make a marriage-minded woman coo and squeal, especially if she thinks that she's making herself seem more marriage-worthy in the eyes of her lover. But, for a settled woman who's just looking for some sideline thrills, a pedestrian performance will be noted and commented upon. Let's not forget the good old "growers versus showers". You're 5 inches soft, six inches hard. Your buddy's 3 inches soft, 7 inches hard. It's hard to go back to communal showering with that knowledge in your head.

(In the interest of disclosure, I'm a grower and the physical verification of one very common stereotype when I'm fully aroused.)

 

And it's more of the same for the ladies. Women have a tendency to be neurotic enough about their bodies. Imagine learning that "Multi-Orgasmic Mary" is for real, and better endowed than you thought, and a squirter! Now, imagine the sight of your husband bringing her to a boil in the time that it takes you to get wet, watching as he presses himself between her breasts with the greatest of ease, then she deep-throats like a porn star. Or, as I've lurked on this site for a long time and have taken note of quite a few "I didn't really enjoy sex until I turned 40/started swinging/learned to make him do it at my pace..." posts, watching as your husband turns a "frigid" woman into his personal wonderland. The ego boost of knowing that your husband is just that damned good can easily turn into uneasiness if she seems to be coming over to the house too often. Same issues, slightly different context.

 

So, my advice? Find a single male swinger (We exist, and we aren't all flakes. And if you seem to be meeting a bunch of "single male" flakes, remember that swinging is a taboo/hot/masturbation-worthy subject. That "nice guy" may be a frustrated married man having sport with "the deviants". After all, if they're willing to break their vows, they shouldn't have a problem with letting him tug a few out over a cyber-connection, amirite!?) Make friends with him, let the wife vet him, then set up a meet at a time when a person without any obvious family entanglements would be available or could make himself available. If he's legitimate and interested, he'll show up at a dive bar in a bad part of town, or a hotdog stand halfway across the city, or even at a porno store at 1AM that's known to be frequented by gay men. (And yes, I've met swingers with those stringent standards. We still chat.) A married male, or a reputation-burdened game player won't take the bait. Someone like me, however, will gladly show up just for the looks of amazement on the faces of other people as he greets a MILFy looking woman with a kiss and a "subtle" butt tap.

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Our first experience was with someone we both knew and felt comfortable with. We were working an event, and after talking about it for some time she said he is our guy. I was quite suprised by her choice, she later confided it was a safe choice for her. We were out after the event, I approached him away from the table and explained what she wanted, he was very willing indeed. Nigt went great, we had a few more get togethers since, but are now interested in meeting someone new (on a side note, anyone know a quality single male in NJ/NY/PA???). As much as she is leaving me to set it up, I know it comes down to her picking the right guy, after all she has to be attracted to him, right?

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Mr. Essex, I love to read your posts! You are so well-spoken (well-written?) and that's something I find very sexy. If you lived closer, I'd love to meet you. (Even if it were just to be friends.)

 

Athenagirl

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Mr. Essex, I love to read your posts! You are so well-spoken (well-written?) and that's something I find very sexy. If you lived closer, I'd love to meet you. (Even if it were just to be friends.)

 

Athenagirl

 

It's been really warm here. If you ever decide to visit our slice of frozen heaven, send me a PM. I'll get some hotdish ready for you!

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Hey you two, get a room....... Preferably, in indiana :EG:

 

I know that trick. :nono:

 

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me...(counts on fingers, toes and other bodily protrusions) over 100 times, then you're really good.

 

P.S.-Athenagirl, call me. I have a friend who's like to meet you.

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It's been really warm here. If you ever decide to visit our slice of frozen heaven, send me a PM. I'll get some hotdish ready for you!

Hey Mr. Essex! The same goes for you... should you ever decide to drop in my neck of the woods, I'd be happy to show you around.

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I know that trick. :nono:

 

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me...(counts on fingers, toes and other bodily protrusions) over 100 times, then you're really good.

 

P.S.-Athenagirl, call me. I have a friend who's like to meet you.

Mr. Essex, tell your friend he can email me at my SLS account under my screen name: Athenagirl. (I have not been logging on much of late, though... taking a break).

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Mr. Essex, tell your friend he can email me at my Swing Lifestyle account under my screen name: Athenagirl. (I have not been logging on much of late, though... taking a break).

 

OK.

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Athenagirl:

 

Could you do me and the other mods a favor? Can you please confirm your registration? Until your registration is confirmed, the mods need to approve each of your posts one by one, instead of your posts just posting immediately, with no approval step. We've tried to contact you by PM and e-mail. Perhaps your registration e-mail is incorrect, or you haven't seen the PMs. In any case, can you check your UserCP section to see if your e-mail is correct, and your PMs and confirm the registration so your posts show up immediately?

 

Thanks - we enjoy your posts!

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      They send photos. Colored ones. Kodachrome.
       
      They give you a phone number. A city two hours away. They are a better than average couple.  No heavy weights. He is bi, she is straight. Your are 24.  They are 33 and 35.  You haven't tried bisexuality before, but your heart is racing now, anticipating something new, something erotic...your first threesome.
       
      You call the number. The wife answers and you give them the phony last name that you made up on the letter, and they give you the phony last name that they made up.  It's part of the game.   You banter nervously. They ask questions. You ask questions.  "What do you enjoy?"  "Do you like anal?"  "Do you like cum in your mouth?"  It doesn't matter.  If they said that they were going to cut your throat afterward, you would still go.  You are hooked. You set up a weekend meet at a motel at their location. King-size bed. Hard to explain to the motel clerk why you are asking for a king-size bed.  They don't ask. They've seen it all.
       
      The husband picks you up at the motel. Nice guy. Personable. Not his first rodeo. He drives you to their place, which is a surprise, but you are so nervous that you don't remember the address or how to get there. You go in. You meet the wife and son. She doesn't disappoint.  She is a looker. The teenage son is off to a friend's place and you are just someone going to a party with his parents. He doesn't know that you will be soon fucking his mother.  After the son leaves, they show you photos of their past swinging adventures.  If you had doubts, then now you are sure that this isn't their first rodeo.  Your cock or your mind. Both are about to explode.
       
      They follow you back to the hotel room that you rented.  Locked door, "Do not Disturb" sign.
       
      She kisses her husband and it starts. The disrobing. You are nervous. What to do first. Follow their lead and try not to appear overbearing or demanding.  She's on the bed, and he dives into a mouthful of vaginal bliss. You nervously start kissing her, massaging her breast, kissing her nipples.  Then you get on your knees and present your mediocre cock for her to devour.  She doesn't hesitate.  She has your cock buried down her throat while the husband buries his tongue in her bush.  The husband comes up for air, and moves to her breast, teasing.  You move to the holy of holies.  You lick, suck, and drink in the juices, probing with deep tongue thrusts, tasting the walls of her vaginal cavity while she is licking the husband's cock. Your member is not much different than his. You are relieved.  
       
      The position changes. She lays on her side. He enters her vagina from the rear, leaving her clitoris exposed. She discussed this with you on the phone.  Licking her while her husband fucks.  You go down and start to lick that clitoris, less than a inch from the pounding cock. You remember that he is bi. He wants this. You hesitantly reach up, and start to cradle his jewels, all the time her juices mingles with the fleshy taste of cock.  You can't bring yourself to put his cock in your mouth, so you go on licking the clit and fondling the balls until he grunts and fills her with cum.  He withdraws. You switch position.  His cum lubricates her vagina.  There is nothing sloppy about these seconds. You pound her while he licks and returns the favor of cradling your balls.  He doesn't suck you off, not sure if you will be offended. It doesn't matter he says. They just love fucking.  
       
      You release your semen into her, and you all relax, sitting and talking while a double load of cum streams from her pussy. You regret what the hotel maids will have to clean up. She pees. Returns. The ritual starts again. This time the cunnilingus is mixed with unfamiliar flavors. His cum. Your cum.  You don't give a fuck.  The thrill of the three-way has over ridden any social mores that you were raised with.
       
      More sex. More bi touching. This time you pull out and shoot your cum over her.  With that baptism, the holy rites have been completed. There are photos and kisses given. Promises of future sex.
       
      This was your first threesome.
    • By TeamCalgary
      Hello all. 
       
      We have been engaged in the LS since Sept 2019 and have noticed a pattern in our activity; curious whether this mirrors that of many of you. 
       
      When we first began, we meet folks usually online, and occasionally in a social setting.  Initially, our goal to gain a face to face meeting with the potential couple; a coffee, a drink, whatever. Looking back on it, we likely met with too many couples who were not good fits. 
       
      Now, our goal is to ascertain the "fit" earlier in the process, so that we meet fewer couples, but the ones that we do meet are, in theory at least, ideally better fits for us. 
       
      Peeling back the onion on this, it appears that we have gotten better at asking some of the dealbreaker questions upfront
      (condom use, drug use, PnP, same room, play together,  etc) that would help to stratify best fit earlier in the process, long before we ever potentially meet.
       
      Red flags are also coming into play as we are now more aware of what some of these things are and how they influence what works for us, and what doesn't. 
       
      For those of you who have extensive experience in the LS, we would welcome your comments in terms of how you ascertain "fit". Is it a process or a particular step; certain questions upfront, etc?
       
      Many thanks.
    • By NCcurious1
      True story that is still in my spank bank.
       
      This was way back to 2013, when you could find horny couples on Craigslist and Backpage.
       
      I was on business in St Louis, horny in my hotel room browsing through casual encounters to see what I could see.  Replied to a few cuckold couple posts, most were just horny dudes hunting for pics. Then I ran across an ad "St Louis couple looking for DP fun".  I replied that I was interested and had a hotel room downtown.  
       
      Cindy replied back when I asked her what they had in mind. "Splitroast me, tongue on my clit when I'm getting fucked, double vaginal, double penetration. You can spank me, pull my hair,  pinch my nipples if you get me hot enough." She then sent a pic of the two of them - Dave took it while he was fucking her doggie while she was sucking a huge dildo looking at a mirror. I sent a nude pic of me and anxiously waited a reply. She replied they were ready for the next step and would be downtown in one hour.
       
      We met in an Applebee's right next to the hotel to see if we mutually wanted to take it further. They walked in looking like a normal suburban couple. She was definitely a BBW girl and did most of the talking. We got to know each other over a drink and quickly came to the conclusion that none of us were psycho killers and I gave them a key while they went back to the car to retrieve lube and condoms
       
      After 15 minutes I hear a knock then the door unlock.  They both walk in smiling and comment "nice hotel." Cindy takes off the jacket she was wearing to reveal a lace teddy and fuck me boots that she must have changed into. She walks up to me confidently and gives me a wet kiss with lots of tongue as Dave watches and then joins in. Cindy then turns to make out with Dave while reaching back and fondling my cock through my jeans. I whisper in her ear, "Get on your knees and suck your husband's cock." Before I know it, Dave whips out his cock which is bigger and thicker than I've ever seen in person.  I get on my knees next to her and hold her hair back so that I can watch her blow him up close, moving her thong aside and fingering her sopping wet pussy loudly. She kisses me and I taste cock for the first time, albeit indirectly.
       
      We then move to one of the two queen beds and put Cindy on all fours. I pull down her panties to her knees and give her big ass a few playful smacks. She moans and spreads her legs a little wider, showing us her wet pussy and I shift my spanking to it. She shrieks and moans as I finger her pussy. Dave takes off her bra freeing her huge tits with big red nipples. I grab one and then another... tweaking her big nips to make her moan some more. Dave is sitting back stroking his big dick looking right at her. I don't think we ever made eye contact.
       
      Dave then throws two condoms down on the bed which is my cue to fuck her. I quickly pull it on, grab her hips, groan, and plunge into her wet pussy. Dave pulls her hair gently but firmly so that her face is in the air and her tits start swaying. I watch as he slides his cock down her throat and hear her give him the sloppiest BJ ever. Full on licks, lip pops, sucks his balls and fingers his ass as I fuck her harder, trying not to cum.  Then I feel as if I'm going to cum and suggest we switch positions. Cindy deep throats me and Dave starts to fuck her pussy hard as all hell making her titties bounce in all directions. She looks up at me and says, "This is so fucking hot, I love it." I grab her hair with both hands and start to face fuck her good.
       
      All of a sudden she starts trembling all over and moaning guttural. She spits out my cock and tells us she is going to cum. Cum was an understatement, she literally gushed girl cum all over my hotel bed. I've never seen such a gush, it sounded like somebody flushed a toilet.  
       
      "Sorry about the bed, but I told you I was a gusher," she says.  I suggest we all move over to the other bed and pull her on top of me. She is so wet that my pubes are soaked immediately. Dave pushes her forward onto me not too gently and we kiss as he works his cock inside her asshole. She starts to buck wildly and again tells us how hot this is. Her pussy is so wet that my cock falls out with every thrust into her ass. I suggest we switch positions and push into her ass as Dave fucks her with that monster cock. I spank her with every thrust talking dirty to her which sends Dave off to cumming inside her. We collapse for a minute and Dave excuses himself to get a drink of water. We are all sweating profusely.
       
      But I'm not done with Cindy yet, and lay on her missionary, spreading her legs wide and fucking her well used, stretched pussy like mad. I fall out a couple times and then decide to put my slippery hard cock into her ass, butt fucking her missionary. I think this was a first for her, since she calls Dave in to check it out. He watches and nods then leaves the bedroom to sit on the couch outside and listen.
       
      I give it to her for another 30 minutes easily, fucking her ass and rubbing her clit. She cums again and again but my cock gets desensitized due to the rubber and I can''t cum. As she is getting wore out, she asks me what she can do to get me off? I tell her that I don't think I can cum from fucking or sucking, come sit on my face and I'll jerk myself off. She looks at me devilishly and climbs right on top, lowering her big cunt right on my face, holds my head with both hands, and slides back and forth, giving me an opportunity to lick her ass. After two minutes of this I feel my cum boiling in my nuts and explode a huge load on my stomach. She smiles, licks some up and then snowballs me! Another first.
       
      I lay there not believing what happened as they get dressed and pack up. I email her after to check if Dave was OK with all of this and she says sure. I never hear from them again.
    • By Billygoat
      We had met Darrell and Judy at a swingers house party that we used to attend way back when we first started in the lifestyle. We have been involved for about a year and a half, and we met a lot of great people and played with some. Although we were very friendly with this younger couple, we hadn’t played. We had been in the same room together, in the open room, but never really discussed or talked about getting together physically in our conversation.
       
      At the last party, they had learned that I had a service business, something they might be interested in. They asked if I might be able to come by the following Sunday morning when they’re both home and go over some of the things they wanted to have taken care of. Darrell asked that I arrive early on Sunday morning, so I was there about 10 minutes ahead of time, parked in the driveway. Darrell came out on the porch and waved me to come on it. It was about 8 o’clock.
       
      We went into his kitchen, and he poured me a mug of coffee. After we chatted for a few minutes, he started to describe some of the things that he wanted done. He also mentioned that Judy was still asleep but should be down shortly.
       
      After about 15 to 20 minutes of casual conversation, you could hear movement, with someone coming down the stairs. A sleepy voice called out, “Honey, I need my morning dose.” Darrell responded, “Here in the kitchen, babe, we have company.” Judy shuffled in wearing her pink fuzzy slippers and an oversized men’s T-shirt, her breast swinging freely underneath the fabric. She mumbled a sleepy, “Oh, good morning,” as she headed for the pot of coffee on the counter.
       
      Darrell and I continued chatting away as Judy prepared her mug of coffee and joined us at the table. Darrell explained to her that we had already discussed their needs and that I had come up with a couple of suggestions that I would get back to them on. Judy sat quietly, taking it all in, sipping at her coffee, gazing between Darrell and myself through the rising steam of her mug.
       
      The conversation then turned to the usual general talk about what we’ve been up to, what they’ve been up to, work, etc. Darrell got up to pour another cup of coffee. As he passed Judy, she mumbled, “I need my dose, babe.” He just shook his head. I wasn’t really sure what all this meant. I assumed some sort of medication, but who knows?
       
      As Daryl returned with his coffee, he stood over Judy, bent down as she looked up, gently kissed her forehead, and said, “Honey. You wrecked me last night. I have nothing left to give.“
       
      Now I had a good idea what they were talking about and must’ve given myself away with a muffled chuckle. “She can be quite the demanding vixen, “said Darrell. “She kept me up half the night, and I’m all tapped out.”
       
      Judy looked at me with a very mischievous smile on her face. Darrell looked down at Judy and said, “If you need more, you’re gonna have to get it from him,” Daryl stated, tipping his head in my direction. I have to say this took me by surprise. As I said before, we have not played yet other than sharing the same area in a group room.
       
      I did not know what to say just sat quietly with probably a very silly looking grin on my face not sure if I should respond or not. Judy is the one who broke the silence. “Hmm I think I would like that very much if he is willing” again a moment or two of awkward silence when Derek stated “buddy you’d be doing me a favor I need a break.”
       
      Now I will be honest: Judy is a very good-looking woman 15 years my junior, about five foot eight, with an hourglass figure, long brunette hair, and large full breasts. To say I was attracted to her, you’re damn right. I just was not expecting this situation and did not want to overstep my bounds.
       
      “Well?” Darrell asked. “Really?” I asked.
       
      “Please. She has been talking about you since the last party. She is very willing,” Darrell persisted. “She sucks me off just about every morning. I got nothing left.” Judy smiled and giggled.
       
      I quietly thanked myself for showering this morning. “I just need to make a quick phone call to check in at home, but I would have to say I’m greatly interested and would be happy to oblige.” Judy let out a squeal of glee, clapping her hands in front of her, and I could not ignore the shaking of her breasts underneath the thin T-shirt.
       
      I made a quick call to the Queen, stating what was going to happen, and she responded, “Good luck, enjoy yourself, be home by 1 o’clock. We have plans this afternoon.” I put my phone down on the table, looked up at Darrell, and Judy smiled and said, “Well, I guess I’m free.”
       
      Judy took a sip of her coffee, turned her chair to the side and asked me to come stand in front of her. Once there, she did not waste any time unbuckling my belt and jeans, pulling them down to my knees. In one motion, she pulled my boxers down and buried her face fully against my flaccid cock and balls, sniffing deeply. She rocked her head from side to side and softly murmured a gentle “mmmm” of approval. After nuzzling me a bit, she gave me two gentle kisses, and using only her tongue, she swept my soft cock into her mouth. I looked over to Darrell to see he had a big grin indicating to me he liked what he saw Judy doing. I relaxed a bit more.
       
      Looking down at Judy she had her eyes closed. She was rolling me around inside her mouth with her tongue. Then she sucked hard and gently bobbed her head a few times, then took me completely into her mouth again. She was making soft, guttural moans as she continued attacking me. “She really loves doing this,” Darrell stated. I did not respond other than a sigh on my part.
       
      Judy continued working me with her mouth, and I started to respond to her efforts. As I started to swell, she took less and less of me into her mouth. She started stocking me with her hand and mouth. After a short time, she “popped” the head of my cock out of her mouth. “Oh my,” she said as she stroked me with her two hands, “I didn’t expect this.” She gasped, then took the remaining length of my cock beyond her two fists in her mouth. “Dude,” exclaimed Darrell, “do you mind if I take pictures of Judy with that?” I could only nod my head in approval; I didn’t want to break the mood.
       
      Darrell fumbled with his phone and started taking pictures. Judy, with just the tip of me in her mouth, hands-free. And then one of my full length from her chin to her forehead.
      “Damn,” Darrell stated, happily clicking away. Judy used one hand to stroke me while sucking on my balls. Darrell had the sound activated on his phone, and there were times it rapidly stuttered as he excitedly took multiple pictures as Judy skillfully continued the assault on my full erection. She tried to take more of me in her mouth but could only manage about half of me before her gag reflex kicked in, and she loudly gasped, popping me out of her mouth and sucking in a large amount of air while stroking with one, then both hands. Every now and again, she would run her tongue from my balls and under the length of my cock, sinking as much of me as possible into her mouth.
       
      At some point, the shutter noise on Darrell’s phone stopped. I wasn’t sure when, but he continued to move the phone camera around Judy’s head and shoulders, I assume taking video. After several minutes of this, although I’m not very sure of the time, Judy stopped. “Let’s go in the living room.”
       
      I kicked off my sneakers and pants and, with her holding my cock in her hand, led me into their living room to a sectional couch and had me sit on an oversized ottoman. She took a pillow from the couch and knelt on it in front of me. She resumed stroking me. One-handed, two-handed, then into her mouth. Shallow, deep, gagging a bit, then back to stroking. Time drifted away as I was enjoying every moment of her efforts. “Tell her when you are ready to cum so I can get a closeup,” instructed Darrell. Again, no answer from me other than nodding my head.
       
      Judy continued vigorously, trying to get me to cum. She rested occasionally, stroking my length with her two hands. After a bit of time, I heard her ask Darrell, “Can I try this? I really want to try him.”
       
      “Hell yeah,” Darrell exclaimed. “Is that ok with you?” he asked me.
       
      “Sure,” I responded. Judy is still working on me. “Only cum in her mouth,” Darrell instructed. I mumbled an “ok” in agreement.
       
      Judy told me to lay back on the ottoman as she stood stripping off the tee shirt. Her breasts swung freely, jiggling with her every movement. I expected that I would be given a condom or she might roll one on me, but instead, she turned away from me and started to lower herself onto me reverse cowgirl. Seeing my concern, Darrell assured me it would be okay if I was okay with it. I agreed.
       
      My crotch was soaked with Judy’s saliva. I watched with eager anticipation as she positioned herself over me. Darrell was giving her some instruction so he could get his video of her lowering herself onto me. I witnessed a few rivulets trickling down her inner thighs. She grasped my cock with her hand and rubbed the end of it along her lips while slightly lowering herself back and forth but not penetrating. After a few moments, I felt her start to take me in. She gasped and stopped for a moment, then repeated, taking me out, rubbing me back in. God, she felt great.
       
      Judy shifted herself slightly, still holding my cock. She guided me back into her opening, taking just the head of me into her. After a brief pause, she lifted her hips up a little and then backed down a little further. A few strokes and then a little more. Each time she did this, shallowly stroking what she had in her, she would slowly take a little more. With each deeper penetration, her body would gently quiver a bit.
       
      “Damn, this is hot”! Darrell blurted out. If he thought what he saw was hot he should see this from my angle. Damn is right.
       
      I do not think either of us were aware of time. There was no rush, no frenzied groping or pumping. Judy was in complete control as it should be, all about her pleasure, her comfort.
      It wasn’t long before I was completely embedded inside the warmth of this woman. Using her body to stroke me, she would take me shallow, then deep strokes, occasionally stopping, deeply penetrating, and grinding on me, almost like dancing on me with her hips. I could hear her murmuring something from time to time, but I didn’t make out what she was saying. I was too engrossed with what she was doing to me.
       
      After a while, she stood, releasing my cock. She turned, facing me, and straddled my waist. Grasping my cock she guided me into her, and she settled completely on my cock. “Damn babe, do that again,” Darrell, now directing this video. I didn’t care at all; I was thoroughly enjoying myself.
       
      He directed her to rise up almost off me the slowly back down. I was lost in her breasts hanging down on me, her nipples brushing along my chest with her rocking motion. Judy’s breathing was quickening with the occasional moan. I loved stroking her breasts, using both hands to hold and squeeze while my mouth teased and pulled on her nipples. She started to ride me harder for a while, stopping every so often with full penetration, wiggling her hips. Once she started raising herself completely and then slamming herself back onto me, taking full, deep strokes, I started to feel that I was getting there.
       
      “I need you to take me,” mumbled Judy as she raised herself off of me. I stood, and she knelt on the ottoman. I accepted the offer of taking her from behind, but I took my time. Partial and shallow strokes, then slowly pushing in deep.
       
      Gauging that she was comfortable with this, I spread her cheeks apart with my hands, went as deep as possible, and paused. With each deep penetration and pause, she would gasp slightly and pump and grind against me.
       
      I’m not sure who was breathing more excitedly, Judy, me, or Darrell, who was totally lost in videoing and watching through the lens. He had swapped out his phone for a handheld video camera at some point, but I am not sure when. I hadn’t noticed.
       
      Judy set the pace. She started bucking back onto me hard and solid. I took the hint and picked up the pace, slamming back into her with full deep strokes. Her verbal jerky breathless “aaahhhs” and “oohhhs” excited me and Darrell. He was moving around us videoing from various angles commenting as he goes.
       
      Judy announced we had to stop. I was concerned if she was ok. She was; she just wanted to be on her back.
       
      She grasped my hand and, giggling, pulled me quickly down the hall, with Darrell a step behind me, to a bedroom. She sat on the bed and quickly took me into her mouth, running her tongue along my length. She laid back her butt on the edge of the bed, pulling me to her. “Fuck me hard,” she said, “but I want you to cum in my mouth.” I nodded that I understood.
      I position myself between her raised legs. She pulled her legs back and wide open, bent at the knees. I leaned in, pressing myself against her opening, grasping each breast in my hands. Bending to nuzzle and suck on her nipples made me enter her partially, making Judy wriggle a light and let out an audible sigh. I squeezed both breasts together and alternated between each nipple as I started to push deeper inside her. She wiggled her hips, trying to press onto me. Once fully penetrated, she ground herself on me.
       
      After a few minutes, I raised myself above her and started slowly pumping into her. I alternated shallow pumping with a few deep full strokes and, from time to time, pressing deep into her and just grinding against her. It seemed to excite her, judging by her body response and breathy moans. “Fuck me hard,” she said, “take me hard!” Our director shouted the same, “Pound her hard!”
       
      Placing a hand on each thigh to hold her legs open and back, I started a steady thrusting, alternating occasionally slamming against her hard. Judy responded with pleasing moans. She fondled and squeezed her breasts and then gathered them both on her chest, cradled by both her upper arms. Her breasts rocked and waved with each thrust. It was marvelous. I was desperately trying to keep the same pace.
       
      Judy traced her fingers over her lower tummy, bringing both over the top of her pubic mound. Her fingers, finding her sweet spot, started vigorously rubbing above her clitoris. I continued to piston in and out of Judy. Her mouth opened, and her breathing sounded labored.
       
      After a few minutes, she started to make a soft-pitched whimpering noise. I continued to thrust hard into her. Only slightly withdrawing, then slamming back into her, making her whole body jerk, her breasts jolting about with each impact. Her whining noise was getting a bit higher and louder, and then it hit. She suddenly sucked in a big breath of air, her head picked up off the bed, a long guttural moan that ended on a high note. “Aarrggeeeee!” Then, her back arched as she slammed her head back, followed by rapid breathing and intermittent uncontrolled giggling. I felt her contraction, an intense gripping of my cock as she climaxed.
       
      I slowed to a slow, deliberate, full-stroke penetration. I knew I was very close. I declared, “I’m going to cum!” and pulled out of Judy and stepped back. Judy slinked off the bed to her knees on the floor. I was pumping my cock by hand. Judy pushed it aside and started to rapidly jerk my cock by hand. “Cum for me, come on, cum” Judy repeated this a few times as the build-up reached its peak. I moaned low and loud. The first volley went across her open mouth and right cheek. The next, she aimed me directly into her mouth. Third and forth, under her chin and neck, the remaining small spurts and drops landed scattered over her breasts. “Wow, oh my god!” Judy squealed excitedly.
       
      Darrell was beside himself with excitement. Other than the pictures and videos they made themselves, this was the first video allowed with someone other than Darrell. He said, “This is crazy sexy, hot as hell”! The clock in the bedroom indicated we had been at this for about 90 minutes. A first for all of us. But to be fair, a hell of a lot of manual and oral play, stop and start, prolonged it all. Judy agreed, reached over, and pulled Darrell to her. She quickly pulled down his sweatpants and promptly took his cock in her mouth. I picked up their video camera and started videoing the two of them.
       
      Judy had Darrell hard in just a few seconds. She made an extra effort to lavish his cock with her mouth, bobbing her head up and down and then swallowing him whole.
       
      She then pulled him down on top of her. He quickly slipped inside her and started hammering away with Judy, encouraging him along, “Take me baby, fill me up!”
       
      From my view, I had a clear shot of him pumping his cock in and out of her. With her telling him to take her hard, cum for her, and watching the two of us for the past hour and a half, he had no hope of lasting very long. He started groaning, Judy telling him to fill her. He let out a bellow and started cumming inside her. I caught the whole thing on video. His pumping and cumming. His cum leaking around his cock out of her. And when he pulled out, the cum leaked out of her. When things calmed down, he viewed the video and couldn’t believe how hard he came and how much he gave her. Judy chimed in, “And you said you didn’t have anymore, holding out on me.”
       
      We didn’t get dressed. We went into the kitchen and talked about what had just happened and past swinging adventures. About an hour later, Judy walked over to me and asked if I could go again. I looked at Darrell, and he quickly shook his head yes. “If you can, that would be awesome”. I agreed.
       
      We walked back to the bedroom and climbed up on the bed. We kissed and fondled each other a little bit. I then positioned myself on my left side and maneuvered Judy on her back with her legs up and over my hip. I easily slipped my semi-soft cock inside her. She was very warm and wet from Darrell. My hands were free to caress and squeeze her breasts. Darrell switched between videoing and kissing Judy. He occasionally played and sucked on her breasts. I slowly pumped a little into Judy. After a few moments, she exclaimed, “I can feel you growing inside me,” and giggled in amazement.
       
      Once I was fully hard I changed position to a supporting missionary. Using my knees to keep Judy’s legs open and my arms keeping me up to watch and nibble on her breasts. I started slow, long thrusts and built up to harder, faster, full-length thrusts. In about fifteen minutes, I was pulling out and dribbling cum on her tummy. Judy sat up and slid down, taking me into her mouth, making an effort to suck and lick me clean.
       
      It was almost noon, and I had to run to get home on time. We promised each other we would get together soon, all four of us. And that we did. They joined our group and played once or twice a month at our parties. We also traveled and shared very often for 4 - 5 years. Then, they moved to New Mexico for Darrell’s work.
    • By Trophy1802
      We are heading to Cuba on May 4th and will be staying at a non-lifestyle resort. As we enjoy getting together with other couples or inviting another guy to join us for some threesome fun, we are wondering if anyone has had any luck in attracting or getting the attention of potential interested play partners at non-LS resorts?
       
      If so, does anyone have any suggestions/tips/tricks that could help us in seeing if there are other people in the LS like us that may be willing to explore the possibility of some adult fun during our stay? After all, we are sure that we are not the only LS people that frequent non-LS resorts from time-to-time.
       
      Thanks and all the best to all Swingersboard members.
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