My wife is Bi, who would have known!

[WildFire 19]

We are both somewhat new to swinging, we have been married almost 16 years, we don't have a lot of experiences yet and so far we have only soft swapped with a few other couples, but in addition to swapping spouses, I always had the fantasy of seeing my beautiful wife locking lips with another beautiful woman and maybe even making love together, what man doesn't dream of that!!!

 

Whenever I brought up that possibility with her, she would say gross, no way, not me, not in a million years, etc...

 

Not any more!!! In the past several weeks she has had some really great experiences with another woman that we met on the dance floor at our local on-premise club. It all started with some dancing, then a little touching, and some playfull kisses and finally full on making out.

 

She loved it, and she isn't just doing it to please me which is what I originally thought.

 

I asked her what changed her mind? She said she was in a moment and it just felt right.

 

I am so happy for her, and I don't mind either...I even got in on the action with a threeway kiss in the middle of the two of them which was so nice...

 

I have to say as much as I hoped this would happen someday, I never thought she would really do it. I still can't believe it!!! She said never had feelings for women before we started swinging, and now we can talk openly about it to a degree... She is ready to explore some more at this point.

 

Is this the way most of the other bi-curious, bi-sexual swinging women got started?

 

Mr. Wildfire

[LFM2 1,482]

Hey there Mr. Wildfire, you sound pumped!!

 

I was always afraid to tell Mr. LFM that I thought women were beautiful and that I wanted to play with them. I have no idea what I was afraid of -- maybe being shunned? Being thought less of? I have no idea.

 

The first couple we ever played with -- she was bi. I guess I just kinda started playing with her while they both watched in awe. Mr. LFM was more in awe than her husband. He'd known she was bi.

 

When we talked about me playing with her, he sounded about ecstatic as you regarding your wife. He absolutely had NO problem with me playing with other women. So far, I have played with many, and it just keeps getting better and better.

[fun4Ds 1,098]

I think I see at least two people smiling behind the screen.

 

Add me to the list also

[TravlParty 87]

Is this the way most of the other bi-curious, bi-sexual swinging women got started?

 

Started when I was a teenager. Agree that it has gotten better and better.

 

My preferences are why we got into swinging, not the other way around.

 

Mrs. T

[VANudistcpl 109]

I know how you feel. The Ms. and I use to talk about as a fantasy and I never thought it would happen. Then one night the "moment" just hit her. Ever since its been a fun ride.

[WildFire 19]

Thanks all for the great responses so far...

[DR. HOUSE 15]

I was a bit more naughty than you. Our wives sound almost the same, I brought up her and another woman and she was like GROSS!!!!!

 

Then I took her to a club where I knew a beautiful dancer who pulled her into a private room.

 

She went in alone. She had no idea that the rooms where video taped!!!

 

My buddy was the DJ and we watched as the dancer slowly seduced her!!!!

 

Soft kisses that went to hands on breasts and ended up with them fingering each other as I watched in awe!!!!!!

 

When she came out of the room I told her I had seen everything and she told me no you didn't so I took her to the TV/video area and she was saying Oh My God the rest of the night!!!!

 

The next day she asked if we could do it again and instead of at the club we got together at her place and the girls where in the 69 with her ass in my wifes face!!!!

 

My wife has been bi-sexual ever since and loves the taste of pussy!!!

 

You have a lot to look forward to my friend!!!!

[realcplub2 513]

To quote every parent out there...

 

You dont know if you dont like something until you TRY IT

[WildFire 19]

Being a male, who always has to figure things out and be analitical about everything, (women hate this part of us)

it seems to me that bi females come in two flavors then:

 

1. They had an interest early on, even before getting into swinging.

or

2. Once they enter into a sexually charged environment, such like you would find in swinging, we are more open about accepting sexual feelings, and maybe the woman feels more open or safe to try it. Plus the other woman involved may have already declared her bi orientation and it is known, so there is a much better chance of acceptance over rejection.

 

I don't know, I am not a doctor, but when close to 90% or more of swinging wives seem to be BI in some way (alteast when looking at couples online profiles), one of the two flavors must be true.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Mr. Wildfire

[PB&J 1,086]

She went in alone. She had no idea that the rooms where video taped!!!

 

My buddy was the DJ and we watched as the dancer slowly seduced her!!!!

 

Soft kisses that went to hands on breasts and ended up with them fingering each other as I watched in awe!!!!!!

 

When she came out of the room I told her I had seen everything and she told me no you didn't so I took her to the TV/video area and she was saying Oh My God the rest of the night!!

 

If that was me, and my husband had set me up like that to be taped, I'd be outraged. Perhaps you knew ahead of time that she would be cool with it, but that should be a decision that a person gets to make FOR THEMSELVES.

[sexcupid 809]

She had no idea that the rooms where video taped!!!

 

If that was me, and my husband had set me up like that to be taped, I'd be outraged. Perhaps you knew ahead of time that she would be cool with it, but that should be a decision that a person gets to make FOR THEMSELVES.

 

I got the impression that they were in a strip club and the dancer took his wife into a VIP room to do this. Perhaps there are signs posted in the lobby or other areas warning that there may be security cameras in place. Because face it...if the girls take a patron back into a room alone, she no longer has the 'protection' of a bouncer. How else would they know the dancer is A.) in trouble or B.) doing something she's not supposed to be doing (like having sex with a customer...although apparently that's ok in that particular club if it's another female)?

[BiloxiCouple 695]

I got the impression that they were in a strip club and the dancer took his wife into a VIP room to do this. Perhaps there are signs posted in the lobby or other areas warning that there may be security cameras in place. Because face it...if the girls take a patron back into a room alone, she no longer has the 'protection' of a bouncer. How else would they know the dancer is A.) in trouble or B.) doing something she's not supposed to be doing (like having sex with a customer...although apparently that's ok in that particular club if it's another female)?

 

In the post about the stripper it was his buddy that was the DJ and watching the tape/video. Good ol boys being good ol boys. If management/owner got wind of it....it might be a different story. Just assuming. I am sure they have license issues just like a swingers club.

[Miss Sunshine 29]

I had the same experience, once I was with a woman for the first time I had to go back for more. I now can't go too long without having sex with another woman.

 

Now the big question, does anyone know of a woman who was totally against sex with another woman but after it happened left her man for a woman?

[DR. HOUSE 15]

well pband J.......

 

You certainly are welcome to your oppinion.....

 

It seems to have worked out well for us......

 

I was friendly with both the DJ and the Dancer so I guess it would really have to be good ole boys and one naughty girl.....

 

 

Sounds to me like the crust is getting old on the bread.

 

Dr. House

[fun4Ds 1,098]

well pband J.......

 

You certainly are welcome to your oppinion.....

 

It seems to have worked out well for us......

 

I was friendly with both the DJ and the Dancer so I guess it would really have to be good ole boys and one naughty girl.....

 

 

Sounds to me like the crust is getting old on the bread.

 

Dr. House

 

Then call me crusty also, my wife would be pissed !

Then again, this ole boy would have just asked if we all wanted to go to a private room. We do that...

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

YAY!!! This is how it's supposed to happen... it just does.. at its own pace and in its own time.

[WildFire 19]

Thanks Julie,

 

Also, next time you are heading up to Nashville let us know, would like to say hi.

Your site has been a huge help to us.

 

Mr and Mrs. Wildfire

[DR. HOUSE 15]

Well so much for being new up here. It was only my first day up here and the attacks began already.... not the kind of place we want to subscribe too.

 

Sorry my tactics seemed soooo out of line to all of you.

 

My wife loved the experience..... and she and not any of you is what that matters.

 

Ya know folks people are different....

 

Couples are different....

 

What might piss off one wife might excite another.

 

Maybe the next time someone new comes up to your site ya might want to keep that in mind.

 

Good luck the unsubscribed doctor.

[rpu3 630]

Dude, lighten up. Nobody attacked you.

 

It's a discussion forum. You are allowed to state your opinion or situation or experience and did so. EVERYONE else is allowed to do the same, even if they don't agree with you. Nothing happened in this thread that should make you take your marbles and go home in a huff.

 

Stick around, relax, and figure out a way to accept the free expression of opinion around here.

 

/threadjack

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

Well so much for being new up here. It was only my first day up here and the attacks began already.... not the kind of place we want to subscribe too.

 

Sorry my tactics seemed soooo out of line to all of you.

 

My wife loved the experience..... and she and not any of you is what that matters.

 

Ya know folks people are different....

 

Couples are different....

 

What might piss off one wife might excite another.

 

Maybe the next time someone new comes up to your site ya might want to keep that in mind.

 

Good luck the unsubscribed doctor.

 

What attacks!? Just because a couple of people said that they wouldn't have been too happy if things had gone that route for them (being videotaped without warning)!? That is not an attack.

 

Your comment to PB&J (quoted below) was more of an attack than anything anyone said to you.

well pband J.......

 

 

Sounds to me like the crust is getting old on the bread.

 

Dr. House

 

This is an online forum (and one of the nicer ones at that), if you can't take people disagreeing with you then you probably shouldn't post on the internet (anywhere) and you are better off to unsubscribe.

[it'sso 198]

Once a gal gets a taste of a sweet pussy, how could they resist another lick?

Being a guy and experienced experienced in cunnilingus, I say, who can blame them?

[almostnewbies 18]

Only speaking for my own experiences...

 

I've always taken notice of hot sexy women and been curious what it would be like to be with a woman. When R and I first started relating our fantasies to each other, we both had the FMF and FMFM fantasies. Neither of us had experienced any sort of swinging, other than in our minds lol. Neither of us had been with partners who would have been open minded enough to explore those fantasies either, until now.

 

When we went to an on premises club and were in the sexually freeing and charged environment things just kind of happened naturally. Dancing on the dance floor led to kissing and fondling on the dance floor which led to going to the bedroom area and more exploring. It was awesome. R could barely contain himself, he was excited to be watching me with the other women.

 

Our profiles state that I am bi-curious, but I think that's mostly because I'm not very bi experienced. The few times we've full swapped have been with couples where the women were bi-curious and were sensual and fun times. Lucky me huh?! I'm sure I'll be changing my profile soon enough lol.

 

T

[almostnewbies 18]

Once a gal gets a taste of a sweet pussy, how could they resist another lick?

Being a guy and experienced experienced in cunnilingus, I say, who can blame them?

 

Personally I think it's more than that, although you are correct too. Women's bodies are softer, skin is softer, tits and nipples are typically bigger, boy I'm gettin myself worked up thinking about this!

 

T

[Nitati 28]

Women are so beautiful. I've always enjoyed looking at all different types of women. That said, with all my gawking I have never been tempted to so much as kiss another female (not even in my drunken college days) because I love men so much, and didn't get sexually aroused by the ladies. Going to the on-premise club we like didn't make me yearn for a woman's touch either (I just felt like all the girl-girl stuff was "fake" or not fake, but more for the sake of turning the men on, if that makes sense... which only served to remind me why I don't enjoy fmf or lesbian porn). I was set & settled in this knowledge too, until I actually saw a whole group of only women going at it like 6 months ago. Whoa. My mind has not been the same since. But I've still never so much as kissed a woman, lol! I guess it's a good thing my hubby doesn't have the FMF fantasy lol. Even if I do get to finally experience bi-play, I don't know that I would ever be considered fully bi. And rather than FMF I'd rather do FFM where the hubby and I completely devour & ravish the other girl. But then hey, what do I know? I've never actually tried it... yet....

[IvoryTowers 380]

I do wonder about the number of profiles that say the woman is bi or bi-curious. It seems out of all proportion to any other studies about female bisexuality. I guess there are a couple of options.

 

1. Women in swinging are bowing to pressure to present themselves and act as bi (everyone else says she's bi, so if we want to meet anyone, I'd better say that as well).

 

2. Women are naturally more fluid in their sexuality than labels suggest and will be aroused by a situation rather than have a set range of interests (as many of the posts here have suggested).

 

3. Women who get into and enjoy swinging are a self-selected population that overlaps with the bisexual population.

 

I honestly think it's a mix of all of these. I do know that almost every couple we've been with has advertised the woman as bi or bi curious and none has tried to do more than kiss me (and most have ignored me completely). Now maybe I'm just not attractive to them, but their men seem interested!

[WildFire 19]

Update... Wildfire had a great night last Sat. with some swing friends at our local club. She had some nice Bi-play with the other female. She even enjoyed her first woman to woman orgasm ever while us men lavished her upper body!!!... It was a perfect night all around for everyone. Hopefully more to cum soon... She considers herself to be fully bi-compatible... it certainly adds another dimension to our nights out. What a nice surprise for me too!

 

Mr. Wildfire

[bharadwajk 15]

Hello Mr. Wildfire

 

I am Bharat Male 40 years from Nashville,TN. Pl join with your wife for lunch some day at Nashville downtown. Looking forward to meet you.

[Karmickiss 28]

Hi All,

I have a raging fever at the moment, but saw this thread, couldn't help it...bear with me please. I think I've stated my concerns and feelings about the women that are "truly bi"..or are just passively so, or stating it as a added lure...but wont go there.

 

I just wanted to add, that I've always been "close" all my life, with one or two women...and looking back, lot's of those realtionships had an added element I was too far into denial to see...I had crushes and even cared deeply for some.

 

One thing I've heard countless women tell me, if they say they are bi-curious...sticks out in my mind, and I felt the same way. I am openly bi...have had several girlfiends, so I have been approached by local women, that just wanted to "talk" to a person that can keep thier anonymity. I'm real good like that, I like the reputation that secrets are safe with me..

 

So, that thing I was talking about...and soooo often I've heard the same thing...especially if one is having a drink to loosen inhibitions about even talking about it...but not always the case. I found there's a big fear there..that might go along with the curiosity...and sometimes that fear might be deep enough to make certain women never even consider that side of themselves..if they have one.

 

I knew I was attracted to women, at the end of my short marriage I was sure of it(Miss Sunshine, the marriage ended due to other reasons, but I did leave and ended up with the same woman for a considerable amount of time)...but I had the same fear that I've since heard literally countless times from others. There is this feeling that another woman is supposed to really knows how to turn on another woman, just b/c they are both female. I can agree to a degree...but also know, really, we are all individual, and all the woman I have slept with, might have some similairities...but none of them, have been the same. I've been happy to find that in general, women might be more open about helping to direct me...having great communication...generally, not all, of course. OK..the fear for me and several others might sound really silly, but it was very real for me.

 

Since I had sex with men only up to a point, and not having any experience with women yet....I was nervous about the one act of "going down" or "eating out" a woman. I was nervous that of course, it would be expected...and didn't know if I could handle it...and didn't know if I could please her....all I knew were my prior experiences...and being a woman...I know that it is often not so cut and dry as to what will be the "turn ons". I was afraid if I started to do it..and then couldn't continue, of disappointing and "feeling stupid"...b/c there is that great expectation, that women just will naturally know all about pleasing another woman, no matter what, like a mind reader.

 

I just knew I had feelings for other women...but was a little intimdated, instead of taking it one step at a time. I've heard so many women say to me..."I'd like to experiment on another woman, but I just cannot picture or get over the idea of eating her out..." Now I can say there is no pressure, go as far or not as you feel good about. Also I share with them that in my case...I worrried and worried about giving good oral sex or being able to "do it right"...etc...and you know what? It was the MOST natural thing in the world when it happened. I absolutely love love love to eat a woman out as long as she can stand it, or will let me...no joke! I also like to give to men...very much.

 

OK..this whole post maybe incoherant..and I need to get back in some hot water...hurts to breath...but great thread. Too bad about the doctor...or whatever that was all about...geez...I know the type...it's called projection, I think... But no bad wishes towards anyone!! I just felt bad for those that were "attacked" in actuality. This is a great place...and part of what makes it great is the variety, and ability to be honest with each other.....Warm wishes to all......Sincerely, karmic

[sxmcouple 16]

Your story sounds so familiar to mine. Can't wait to see how far the Ms. will take it but obviously she's well past the long standing line that it was gross. Watching her make out with another woman while I sat between the two ladies was an amazing thing to witness. Can't wait to see what happens next.

[dr_pepper 25]

After many discussions with my ex about our both being bi, I know that if I had any say in the matter, I would be a bi woman, who leaned toward women, but would be in a hetro relationship.

 

I remember a young girl I worked with, who happily went to bed with anyone she liked. Sadly I was too old for her to be interested in. She was a free spirit The best kind.

[roosternhen4hen 15]

My wife is shy about it but a lot of the same things turn her on. Since it seems like you have a little experience with this; could you have a talk with her in hopes to help us achieve this also.

[magnum 78]

We are both somewhat new to swinging, we have been married almost 16 years, we don't have a lot of experiences yet and so far we have only soft swapped with a few other couples, but in addition to swapping spouses, I always had the fantasy of seeing my beautiful wife locking lips with another beautiful woman and maybe even making love together, what man doesn't dream of that!!!

When ever I brought up that possibility with her, she would say gross, no way, not me, not in a million years, etc... Not any more!!! In the past several weeks she has had some really great experiences with another woman that we met on the dance floor at our local on-premise club. It all started with some dancing, then a little touching, and some playfull kisses and finally full on making out.

She loved it, and she isn't just doing it to please me which is what I originally thought. I asked her what changed her mind? She said she was in a moment and it just felt right. I am so happy for her, and I don't mind either...I even got in on the action with a threeway kiss in the middle of the two of them which was so nice...

 

I have to say as much as I hoped this would happen someday, I never thought she would really do it. I still can't believe it!!! She said never had feelings for women before we started swinging, and now we can talk openly about it to a degree... She is ready to explore some more at this point. Is this the way most of the other bi-curious, bi-sexual swinging women got started?

 

Mr. Wildfire

 

Lucky you...

[couplers 4,638]

I don't tiptoe around it - I don't have a "bi" side, I have a Lesbian side, which after forming a poly family with two other women and two men, is as important to me as my hetero side.

 

Also, it seems that most men, even those in traditional, conservative marriages, wouldn't be upset if their wife had a relationship with another woman.  It's just much more acceptable (for whatever reason) than a guy having a gay side.