Squirting - who does it?

[Chicup 41]

bi4me2 said:

(her) It's as much pee from me as it is when a man ejaculates from his penis. I guess you're the only ones "allowed" to have extra organs for orgasming. Skene's Gland

 

I'm a biologist, and a doctor. I've dissected both males and females, and have seen their naughty bits in ways I'd rather not have as part of my training. The problem isn't if Skene's glands exist or not, the problem is they are so small that you can't really see them with the naked eye. Biologically speaking, they would have to be magical to make that much fluid in so short a time. It's just not physiologically possible.

 

Then you have to look at the evolutionary reason behind it. For men, it's quite obvious and every mammal in the animal kingdom works the same way for its males. Some are more (chimps) some are less (gorillas) and it's all based on their mating as chimps are polygamous and gorillas are harem monogamous. Chimps have sperm competition and gorillas do not so they need less semen. This all works out and can even be graphed. If you are interested humans fall in between. We would be basically monogamous in terms of sperm competition but not completely.

 

For females on the other hand there is NO evolutionary reason, nadda. Women who don't squirt have babies, women who do have babies. It makes no difference, has never been noted, or studied as anything special. YET they would have to have these magical and incredible instant fluid producing organs that go from zero to across the room in a VERY short period of time. It just doesn't make sense.

 

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Is it so hard for you to understand that just because you think it comes from one place (which it doesn't) that's it's not "pee". It amazes me that the ones that scream so loudly that it's pee are men that have never had the experience themselves. Is it so hard for you to grasp the idea that OMFG a woman might actually have the ability to ejaculate as much as a man does. Ignorant Neanderthal thinking at it's best. Boy does this "piss" me off.

 

You can keep being mad, but when my wife was a 'squirter' she had no idea she was doing it and couldn't really feel it directly. After all she was having a huge screaming orgasm.

 

Again it is not Neanderthal thinking like this is some damn contest, it's just logic and not making assumptions without any backing behind them.

 

Do you really think anyone here gives a damn like its some competition? We are not children here.

 

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And just so you know.......I can use the bathroom right before I have sex. ejaculate 10 or 12 times (soaking the bed) and then have to pee again right after. I'm sorry but my bladder cannot produce that much liquid. Until you actually experience it yourself (and I don't believe that you ever have) you have no clue. So keep saying it's pee. Keep being as ignorant as science has been about a womans body for the last 19 or so centuries. Keep being the typical "man" that is superior over every woman and at the same time as ignorant as my pet rat.

 

I woke up a few minutes ago and the first thing I did was go to the bathroom, while typing this I have to pee again.

 

You can keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better, but don't be mad that people with more knowledge of human anatomy and physiology do not agree with you. 

 

[Miss Sunshine 29]

I think everyone gets the wrong idea of squirting because of the porn movies which shows these women squirting buckets of liquid. I also enjoy some pee fun and have had many orgasms while peeing on someone or getting peed on. A number of times another gal and I drank a large quantity of water, then the guys used a g spot vibe and an anal vibe on us and we timed it to where we couldn't hold back at the time of orgasm and it looked just like those movies, and it was great. So I am only speaking from experience and no testing. But as I said, I also squirt a much different liquid when i cum but it is not a flow of liquid it is more of a seeping stream and it tastes good and is a lot like a man's cum. But to each their own.

[WhatisTruth 41]

Chicup said:

I'm a biologist, and a doctor. I've dissected both males and females, and have seen their naughty bits in ways I'd rather not have as part of my training. The problem isn't if Skene's glands exist or not, the problem is they are so small that you can't really see them with the naked eye. Biologically speaking, they would have to be magical to make that much fluid in so short a time. Its just not physiologically possible.

 

Yes you are an expert, but that doesn't make you the only authority on the matter either. I have heard other experts with medical backgrounds make claims that counter your own. The truth in the matter is that it hasn't truly been scientifically studied for multiple reasons. First and foremost, is that it is not common. Second, sexism, especially in the medical field, has been pretty damn rampant. Finally, the politics of funding. VERY few people are going to fund something like this, and if its not going to be funded, its probably not going ot be researched.

 

 

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For females on the other hand there is NO evolutionary reason, nadda.

 

That you know of. I can think of a couple reasons. First, it makes a female more desirable. If they are more desirable, than there is a higher chance of passing on those genes. Second, it may or may not play into the role of getting pregnant. We don't have the studies to prove one way or the other on this. It seems to be chicup that when it comes to science, your pretty closed-minded about most things...

[Chicup 41]

Miss Sunshine said:

I think everyone gets the wrong idea of squirting because of the porn movies which shows these women squirting buckets of liquid. I also enjoy some pee fun and have had many orgasms while peeing on someone or getting peed on. A number of times another gal and I drank a large quantity of water, then the guys used a g spot vibe and an anal vibe on us and we timed it to where we couldn't hold back at the time of orgasm and it looked just like those movies, and it was great. So I am only speaking from experience and no testing. But as I said, I also squirt a much different liquid when i cum but it is not a flow of liquid it is more of a seeping stream and it tastes good and is a lot like a man's cum. But to each their own

 

Now that's something I would agree is possible and understandable.

[Chicup 41]

Yes you are an expert, but that doesn't make you the only authority on the matter either. I have heard other experts with medical backgrounds make claims that counter your own. The truth in the matter is that it hasn't truly been scientifically studied for multiple reasons. First and foremost, is that it is not common. Second, sexism, especially in the medical field, has been pretty damn rampant. Finally, the politics of funding. VERY few people are going to fund something like this, and if its not going to be funded, its probably not going ot be researched.

 

If women through out history were sending streams of unknown liquid across the room, I think someone would have studied it in depth by now. I'm sorry but there is absolutely no proof it is anything but urine.

 

That you know of. I can think of a couple reasons. First, it makes a female more desirable. If they are more desirable, than there is a higher chance of passing on those genes.

 

Really? I never even heard of squirting until the last 10 years or so. No one was picking their girlfriend on it, no one ever MENTIONED it when talking in a group of guys as a very young adult living in a fraternity with several live in (and very orgasmic) girlfriends. The idea that this is sexual selection seems odd for a couple of reasons. One is that you don't see it until after you have sex, not prior. You don't choose someone because they are a squirter. Two, I doubt all men enjoy it, no one likes sleeping in the wetspot for the most part, and this is a HELL of a wet spot.

 

Finally even if it were sexual selection that doesn't mean its not pee, in fact it would still most likely be pee for the reasons I already outlined.

 

Second, it may or may not play into the role of getting pregnant. We don't have the studies to prove one way or the other on this. It seems to be chicup that when it comes to science, your pretty closeminded about most things...

 

I'm just not naive. If you told me you could turn a prince into a frog I'd know you were a fake, if you told me you could turn a butterfly into a caterpillar I'd read your work.

[bi4me2 93]

Female ejaculation

 

Isis Media - G-spot & Female Ejaculation

 

So maybe you're right and all these other women are peeing. I am not one of those. I can literally push him out with the force of the fluid.

[slevin 1,374]

Get yourself into a study about squirting for sure then. I haven't seen any studies that found the fluid had come from the vagina. If that is the case for you then I am sure a scientific study would definitely uncover some interesting results.

[bi4me2 93]

Chicup said:

Perhaps its just because I'm trained in reading scientific literature but....

 

Is a interesting read and does nothing to really dispel the idea its from the bladder and urine.

 

(him)

 

Well I'll tell you what. When you have a woman literally blow you out of her vagina when she squirts then we will talk. Until then you are speculating.

 

While my wife might be a bit perturbed by some of the responses here, and while she might get a bit hostile towards doctors that seem to think they know it all (for good reason ... but for another thread) I have personally experienced this with her for damn near 15 years now and here's my take on it:

 

1. Without a doubt it comes from within her vagina, no doubt in my mind

 

2. The 'flavor' of it is 'sweet' and the color is 100% clear

 

3. She can't do it when she is dehydrated ... just doesn't work

 

4. Again, on those odd times where I was able to make it happen by fucking her (it is very difficult and usually only happens when we use our sex swing) she has either 'squirted' around my penis or on the explosive ones pushed me completely out.

 

5. 9 times out of 10 I am 'down there' when she squirts, a perfect 'view' and more than not my fingers are inside her ... it comes from her vagina, no ifs ands or buts.

 

 

Oh and sorry 'mr doctor', you haven't a chance arguing with her. You can thank your fellow physicians for that. Like the idiot doctors that told her for years her 'fainting' was 'all in her head' only to finally have a chiropractor realize (first visit) her thyroid was 'dead' .... sorry but I have seen what quack doctors have done to my wife and her anger is very justified. She is mad at doctors and for a very good reason.

 

Maybe some day the male dominated medical profession will get their heads out of their asses and actually take the time to figure out the female body and all its wonders ... but I doubt it

[Lascivious L&L 866]

Chicup has done a wonderfully patient job of explaining squirting from a biologic point of view. Anger has nothing to do with what squirting is. Nor does attitude toward doctors.

 

The confusion here is that squirting is not one thing, as has been pointed out numerous times in this thread. Most of the posts have dealt with copious squirts, those with a lot of fluid, as in cups to a quart, as well as a lot over time, repeated squirts. These come from the urethra, as anyone who observes closely can see.

 

By the way this male writes alongside his wife, who squirts, and she has made it very clear that she knows her squirts, large ones, are pee.

 

There simply is no other place that produces this quantity of liquid exiting the urethra other than the bladder. Urine is often clear, doesn't have a lot of taste, and sometimes is sweet. It is constantly produced so can be squirted repeatedly, no matter whether the bladder has been "emptied." Orgasms can expell urine from the bladder more effectively than urinating can.

 

The other type of squirt, teaspoons or so, are different. Those tests online are of this type of squirt, so of course it doesn't test as urine. Then this type is confused with the soak the bed type.

 

We males don't ejaculate cups of semen. Peter North may squirt a tablespoon or so, but most of us squirt in the teaspoon range.

 

This smaller quantity of squirt often comes from the vagina and likely is the lubricating fluid of the vagina. Orgasms can as effectively expell the lubricant from the vagina as it can from the bladder, but there is far less of it.

 

Confusing these two types of squirt is one of the main confusions about squirts. Most of the posts in this thread have been about the soak the bed type of squirts.

 

Getting angry over this subject means you have an emotional investment in what you believe. Unfortunately anger has nothing to do with whether what you believe is correct.

[bi4me2 93]

Get yourself into a study about squirting for sure then. I haven't seen any studies that found the fluid had come from the vagina. If that is the case for you then I am sure a scientific study would definitely uncover some interesting results.

 

Well I'll tell you what. There is no way I would open myself up to the medical community. Beside the example my husband gave (which is 100% true) I have also had a OB/GYN tell me that my 3 miscarriages had nothing to do with my thyroid dysfunction, only to read in every medical book that it is one of the top causes. Then to have him look me in the eye and tell me that I could have a miscarriage every month and not know it. Nice going doc, glad I looked to you for advice. There are many other personal examples I could give you as to why I don't trust/believe anyone with a MD, DO, PHD or the like following their name.

 

Yeah these are the people that I want going over my body trying to figure out what I already know and what others will never believe even with scientific proof. Maybe if Kinsey was still around I would say yes or even someone of his nature/reputation, but as it stands now, there is no way, period.

[Maybe_Someday 68]

Much thanks to everyone who has invested time in this discussion. I personally have learned a lot from this discussion. Chicup, Bi4Me2, and Lacivious all bring up some excellent points in this discussion. Chicup is clearly a dedicated professional who has gone above and beyond in discussion this issue from the perspective of his medical and biological training. Mrs. Bi4Me2 has clearly had some personal experiences that have influenced that couples opinions of the validity of "squirting" and medical professionals in general. I'm happy to hear about your positive experience and sad to hear about the negative experiences.

 

This discussion is colored by personal experience, a dearth of quality academic research, and the pornofication of female ejaculation. In trying to find more answers I dug a little deeper and found the following:

 

Female ejaculation - wikidoc

Skene's gland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Female ejaculation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Based on the information in these links I make the following hypothesis...

 

Female Ejaculation describes an expulsion of fluid from the urethra in volumes less than 35 ml (about 8 teaspoons). The fluid is significantly different from urine to clearly not be urine, however in the course of a very strong orgasm it may be mixed with urine that is expelled simultaneously to female ejaculation. There is some indication that the Skene's Gland can refill rapidly (in minutes not seconds) so one my be able to experience multiple instances of female ejaculation during a sufficiently long sex session.

 

Squirting describes the pornofication of Female Ejaculation. By pornofiication I mean taking the phenomena of female ejaculation and making it more grandiose for benefit of the camera. Squirting describes an expulsion of fluid from the urethra but in volumes greater than 35 ml. The fluid is mostly urine but will likely include female ejaculation fluid. Since most of this fluid comes from the bladder is it most likely to experience only one large expulsion of fluid.

 

I think this covers it.

 

There is some controversy surrounding this and related topics. it's very important to make sure we don't spread false information or give the impression that you're dysfunctional if you can't have a female ejaculation. However, it's just as important to not dismiss the experiences of those who say something real is going on or to shame or embarrass them for an orgasm that is a little messier regardless of the exact origin.

 

it's important to remember that inconclusive studies are not proof of the lack of existence. Furthermore, it's important to remember that anecdotal evidence while not scientific cannot be dismissed wholesale. I'll point to the extreme case of Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder - Wikipedia. From a documentary on the Discovery Health Channel women reported being met by physicians with skepticism, dismissal (it's all in your head), or outright disrespect (your husband/boyfriend must be VERY *wink* lucky).

 

In closing, Female Ejaculation is different and distinct from Squirting. Female Ejaculate is different and distinct from urine. The pornofication of this phenomena has caused considerable confusion. Not all women appear to have same development of the Skene's gland, from microscopic to very developed. Finally, the fact that we are talking about a gland/spot that is in the vagina and is reported to only be engorged/sensitive when the woman is highly aroused, making clinical inquiry quite challenging.

 

I've rambled on long enough. Have a good one.

[Chicup 41]

It is an interesting corollary to the limited study I linked to that used a catheter to show that the fluid came from the bladder. It showed that the fluid was urine based, but that other glands could contribute to altering the substance of the fluid after it left the bladder. Not a wide spread enough study to be conclusive in my mind, but it certainly points to a plausible explanation.

 

Women getting 'wet' is a rather obvious function of sexual activity and I've been with women so turned on 'wet' doesn't quite cover it. That fluid getting mixed with the urine is quite understandable and some of it may come from glands in the urethra. That I think would account for the differences.

[Guest rdy46227]

The more I reflect, the more I like the theory that Skeen's Glands, ducting into the urethra, are there to provide lubrication slowly "drop by drop", which will wick higher into the labia minor than vaginal secreations.

[SAVANDWIN 266]

"You don't choose someone because they are a squirter. Two, I doubt all men enjoy it, no one likes sleeping in the wetspot for the most part, and this is a HELL of a wet spot. "

 

You don't choose someone because they are a squirter.....on that I beg to differ, many times part of our attraction to others has been exactly that quality. I'm neither bothered by that nor flattered; it is what it is and I am what I am.

 

"no one likes sleeping in the wetspot for the most part, and this is a HELL of a wet spot. "........agreed including us which is why we always use and we never leave home without a good supply of hospital/puppy pads and several top sheets which we use to cover the pads.............when we are finished we simply remove them from our/their now dry bed. We're not all ignorant , inconsiderate asses .

 

As to the the rest of this forum I have not seen one word of FACT on either side ; until it is a proven fact there is no point arguing about what the fluid actually is. Enjoy it or don't , makes no never mind to me either way .

Everyday in this world what once was thought to be factual/logical in fact becomes an untruth . Secret mysteries unfold around us constantly ;Thank god science is exploring and attempting to expand the narrowed minds of many people...........If you'll forgive me now I'm off to my flat world where man can't travel in space, cancer means instant death and our trees, clear air and natural resources are in endless supply but first I've got to feed my flying monkeys.

 

Mrs Sav

[roosternhen4hen 15]

My wife and I want to accomplish this so bad. She felt that she was very close one time but we are thinking its going to take a females actual touch. Everything is going great when females are around but we think she needs another woman involved with us to push her over the edge.

[Chicup 41]

"You don't choose someone because they are a squirter. Two, I doubt all men enjoy it, no one likes sleeping in the wetspot for the most part, and this is a HELL of a wet spot. "

 

You don't choose someone because they are a squirter.....on that I beg to differ, many times part of our attraction to others has been exactly that quality. I'm neither bothered by that nor flattered; it is what it is and I am what I am.

 

"no one likes sleeping in the wetspot for the most part, and this is a HELL of a wet spot. "........agreed including us which is why we always use and we never leave home without a good supply of hospital/puppy pads and several top sheets which we use to cover the pads.............when we are finished we simply remove them from our/their now dry bed. We're not all ignorant , inconsiderate asses .

 

As to the the rest of this forum I have not seen one word of FACT on either side ; until it is a proven fact there is no point arguing about what the fluid actually is. Enjoy it or don't , makes no never mind to me either way .

Everyday in this world what once was thought to be factual/logical in fact becomes an untruth . Secret mysteries unfold around us constantly ;Thank god science is exploring and attempting to expand the narrowed minds of many people...........If you'll forgive me now I'm off to my flat world where man can't travel in space, cancer means instant death and our trees, clear air and natural resources are in endless supply but first I've got to feed my flying monkeys.

 

Mrs Sav

 

There is a fact that the ONLY place to store the 16oz of fluid, the most anyone 'squirts' is in the bladder.

 

There is a fact that no glands produce fluid that fast in the human body.

 

Pee is the null hypothesis here. No one can counter it beyond saying its not.

[SAVANDWIN 266]

"Pee is the null hypothesis here. No one can counter it beyond saying its not."

 

I'll wait for Conclusive Evidence . An opinion is not a fact no matter how many times you repeat it.

Frankly I could not care less what the liquid is; some enjoy it some don't but before you put your 2 cents in and state something from your "Doctors" opinion but 100% sure that you're correct and not merely projecting your theory or "null hypothesis".

Perhaps if by some unexpected random act you actually witness or cause a women to squirt you could be so kind as to gather up a specimen and run a full spectum of tests on it for all of us...since your a Doctor and all.

 

Mrs Sav

[The Fuse 1,012]

"Pee is the null hypothesis here. No one can counter it beyond saying its not."

 

I'll wait for Conclusive Evidence . An opinion is not a fact no matter how many times you repeat it.

Frankly I could not care less what the liquid is; some enjoy it some don't but before you put your 2 cents in and state something from your "Doctors" opinion but 100% sure that you're correct and not merely projecting your theory or "null hypothesis".

Perhaps if by some unexpected random act you actually witness or cause a women to squirt you could be so kind as to gather up a specimen and run a full spectum of tests on it for all of us...since your a Doctor and all.

 

Mrs Sav

I think perhaps you should gather a sample when you squirt, and have it tested yourself. I think you'd be more likely to believe the results that way, and not likely to believe the results of someone else's test.

 

I squirted once, maybe twice. The first time I was conscious of it. It was preceded by a feeling of having to pee, and doing nothing to stop it, just like all the written material on squirting I'd ever seen said would happen.

 

Whatever it is, I'm not anxious to repeat it. It's not a nice wet for sex. It's a watery wet. If my partners won't believe I'm not faking orgasms without my squirting, I think that's a bigger problem than whether it's pee or not.

 

Please, if you're so sure, go get proof either way. Seems to me it has to be pee, but I don't care that much. If you're so anxious to prove what is physically so unlikely or at least not understandable by physicians (that it's

not pee), then please, please, go get proof from your own squirt, and shove it down their throat.

[slevin 1,374]

The thing is, people have tested the substance. The contention is that people read into the results what they want. It's not 100% urine, but it has urine content combined with other substances. Makes sense to me; urine from the bladder mixed with vaginal secretions and other chemicals/hormones from other glands.

 

This is one of those cases where people are just going to believe what they want to believe.

[SAVANDWIN 266]

"If my partners won't believe I'm not faking orgasms without my squirting, I think that's a bigger problem than whether it's pee or not."

 

LOL .......on a serious note that would be a problem...frankly I've never met a man who's ego meant so much to me I'd Fake It. I pity the man who would dare to ask me if in fact I was faking anything!

 

Anyone know a Hot Swinger DR...we could run that experiment in his lab .....I'm game since I squirt frequently but can't say it ever felt like I had to "pee" at the time.

 

Mrs Sav

[WhatisTruth 41]

SAVANDWIN said:

Anyone know a Hot Swinger DR...we could run that experiment in his lab .....I'm game since I squirt frequently but can't say it ever felt like I had to "pee" at the time.

 

I have a lab coat...does that count?

[Chicup 41]

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Anyone know a Hot Swinger DR..

 

*ahem*

[SAVANDWIN 266]

Chicup ahem,

You might be hot and you may even be a DR but you'll do me no good....your deep seeded adversion to squirting would definately be prohibitive lol.

 

Mrs /Sav

[Lascivious L&L 866]

An interesting question is why a difference of opinion is called an aversion to squirting. Why assume that someone who holds the pee opinion is averse to squirting? Such an assumption suggests that the aversion is in the assumer, and is actually an aversion to pee.

 

This thread is an interesting study in human psychology, belief, and want, as well as sexual desires and aversions.

 

One of my experiences with squirting was before I was married to my current sweetheart. It happened in my waterbed with a woman who squirted large gushes many times. The bedding was soaked, but in the heat of the moment I was not aware just how much was squirted.

 

The next morning I attended to the wet bed. All sheets, blankets, and the foam covering of the waterbed went into the washer. Removing that covering exposed the seven tubes that comprise the waterbed. They sit within a heavy vinyl container designed to catch any leaks in the tubes. The tubes were wet, and when removed (50 lbs. or more of awkward 6 foot tubes of water) there was substantial liquid caught by this container. It was not merely wet, there was a puddle. And it smelled of urine.

 

I had to rinse each tube in the bathtub and empty the vinyl container, very awkward, plus rinse it out. I learned that squirting in that bed was ill advised and from then on used other locations for future squirting adventures.

 

I estimated around a quart of squirt was in that vinyl container.

[lotsoffun201 175]

My wife and I want to accomplish this so bad. She felt that she was very close one time but we are thinking its going to take a females actual touch. Everything is going great when females are around but we think she needs another woman involved with us to push her over the edge.

 

Believe it or not, most women require at least initially a harder touch. Once they are able to accomplish it regularly it can be much softer. There are techniques which work and a little research on the net helps. I can tell you that rather than the "come here motion" it is more of an up and down motion with the fingers curled.

[SAVANDWIN 266]

"An interesting question is why a difference of opinion is called an aversion to squirting. Why assume that someone who holds the pee opinion is averse to squirting? Such an assumption suggests that the aversion is in the assumer, and is actually an aversion to pee."

 

Now there's a new twist in thinking. My use of the word "aversion" perhaps might have been for lack of a better word. Sir Chicup has made it clear in my opinion he has no desire to be with a squirter, doesn't enjoy it, finds it messy and it doesn't aid in reproduction which which as I was pointing out to his "AHEM" response to the above comments I had made and would completely rule me out of his potential play list. I do squirt frequently and easily but lab test or not I can't just "make it" happen.......some playing would have to involved. From many of the posts of his I've read if nothing else he has a fine sense of humor and frankly I think hes been laughing the whole time as I have......but again you're free to disagree with my opinion anytime and I welcome all arm chair analysis of my opinions and motivations.

 

As I previously mentioned I care not what it is, who does it or who doesn't do it. I don't feel I have "better" orgasms than those who don't , I have no preference for playmates based on their own ability to squirt or not but I also don't believe the case on squirting has been proven one way or the other in the medical community or in the swinging community ;there are no Facts merely null hypothesis (wink).

 

Mrs Sav

[Miss Sunshine 29]

I enjoy pee fun and licking squirting ladies!

[GPHTallCouple 69]

I don't always squirt, sometimes I squirt just a little bit but other times it's more of a massive gush. Lately, its been crazy huge gushes and that makes me done with playtime. I start going into shock and MrGPH has to take care of me. Its not fair. We want to play well with others and not have me go into shock so easily. It takes me a couple hours to recover before I can play again. That part sucks!!

 

I have a couple of questions. Are there any other gushers out there that just don't squirt a cute little amount that release massive amounts at a time? If so how do you cope with the fluid loss? Have you gone into shock?

 

I have gone into shock and passed out from squirting before I became a swinger. I was all alone when I went into shock after my FB had left and I was very fortunate a neighbor noticed something was wrong and checked on me.

 

I have joked about hooking up an IV, has anyone tried it?

[lotsoffun201 175]

Mrs Fun is a massive squirter. While she has never gone into shock, she just drinks lots of water to keep her hydrated. Im not sure dragging an IV pole around is going to be all that appealing

[Miss Sunshine 29]

HUH? Try drinking water

[lotsoffun201 175]

I think the first poster was joking about the IV LOL......At least I hope so

[slevin 1,374]

I have gone into shock and passed out from squirting before I became a swinger. I was all alone when I went into shock after my FB had left and I was very fortunate a neighbor noticed something was wrong and checked on me.

 

I have joked about hooking up an IV, has anyone tried it?

 

If orgasming and squirting are causing that kind of serious situation I think you should go talk to your doctor about it. Are you squirting every time you orgasm? Are you having this kind of situation every time you have sex?

[GPHTallCouple 69]

Well, I guess I am more a freak of nature than I thought. Sigh....

 

I'm not doctor friendly. The last person I want to talk to about this is a doctor. This month I've budgeted to start seeing a naturopath for my other problems, and I'm hoping that he or she can discuss the gushing problem too.

 

I guess I'm gonna have to pace myself on the orgasms if I start squirting, otherwise I'm going to wipe myself out too quickly. That's going to be hard to do. I know you many of you guys are masters at making yourself last so you don't go too fast. Perhaps that's what i need to do.

[JandT_Elkhart 76]

Sorry, there's no way in hell you are getting dehydrated from squirting. And you aren't going into "shock" either.

 

Nobody, NOBODY "gushes" enough to dehydrate a body.

 

Don't mean to sound mean, but obviously if you are gullable enough to spend money on a "naturopath" then... well... just damn.. I'll stop now before someone flames me for flaming you.

[ViSexual 1,008]

J & T, I'm no doctor but I do know that when you sweat it's to keep your body cool and that, sweating profusely during athletic activities, can, and does dehydrate you.

 

So, why wouldn't squirting fluids during climaxes, if enough fluid loss occurred, do the same?

 

OK, and another possible suggestion..., what about Pedolite?

[fun4Ds 1,098]

GPHTallCouple said:

Well, I guess I am more a freak of nature than I thought. Sigh...

Nothing wrong with being different Just don't think, your alone. Nature in its-self, is the freak of all things

 

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I'm not doctor friendly. The last person I want to talk to about this is a doctor. This month I've budgeted to start seeing a naturopath for my other problems, and I'm hoping that he or she can discuss the gushing problem too.

I can understand that... are you a Gemini by any chance ? There are many who feel the same way. But I think for many who have trouble with doctors (Gemini or not) can benefit greatly from the medical professionals out there. The thing is, your partner. Sometimes we find people in our lives that are in fact, not good for us as individuals. Is your BF good for you, in this way ?

 

Don't consider yourself anything more than just different. My initial knee jerk reaction to your situation was WTF ? But don't take that the wrong way, its just something that's unknown, much like a puzzle to be solved

 

I find it interesting, (the female anatomy ie; squirting, or in your case, gushing)

 

On one hand, there are the na-sayers, people who have studied "extensively" and have a scientific conclusion. Which, to me, should never be overlooked or dismissed because we don't agree. The "proof is in the pudding", or in your case as well as other women who do squirt, the proof is in the puddle. But again, I believe there is more to it than that.

 

Then, on the other hand I hear the yea-sayers, the women who can tell me they do. To which, for self centered or cynical reasons, I say "show me" It's not all self-centered being a male though, because part of that is the sharing of something special. What goes along with that is how a woman feels about not only herself, but her sexuality as well. Some men see that as control, while others a form of true "connection" with their partners.

 

That being said, GPHTallCouple. If I may ask some personal questions ?

 

1. Do you think there could be other factors that contribute to your dehydration, as in drugs (prescription or not) including, alcohol, tobacco, caffeine or even herbal supplements, that could be intensifying your dehydration/shock ?

 

2. Stress ? Are there other symptoms such as, lack of sleep, loss of focus on what your doing at times ?

 

3. You mentioned prevention of your orgasms by way of, as I see it. "mental distractions" from orgasming during sex, so it doesn't "go off" too soon or perhaps at all. Would that make you feel good/better ?

 

And finally, Do you feel a connection between your sexuality and your spirituality ? I know, that's a tough one. No answer is, ok. But if you haven't thought of this on a personal level, it's worth mentioning.

[slevin 1,374]

ViSexual said:

J & T, I'm no doctor but I do know that when you sweat it's to keep your body cool and that, sweating profusely during athletic activities, can, and does dehydrate you.

 

So, why wouldn't squirting fluids during climaxes, if enough fluid loss occurred, do the same?

 

OK, and another possible suggestion..., what about Pedolite?

 

Sweat is taking moisture from the body to cool your temperature. Squirting is taking liquid from the bladder (not trying to start a debate) and some small amounts of fluid from other locations. The fluid in the bladder is not used to hydrate the body.

 

That is my layman's understanding anyway

[GPHTallCouple 69]

It is puzzling that I am losing so much fluid. I know when I first started squirting it wasn't a big drama. I did read somewhere that it is possible to stop or squirt less. I'll focus on that. I also read it is possible to make yourself squirt more by pushing, um, I think I do. I'll have to experiment and try to make sure I stop doing that.

 

When MrGPH and I first started dating, I didn't squirt all that much. Whatever I was or we were doing before, we need to go back to that more often.

[lotsoffun201 175]

To the Mrs. massive squirter from a Mrs. massive squirter,

 

DON'T LISTEN TO A MAN! MEN DON'T KNOW! Someone above said "the proof is in the pudding" or in our case "the puddle"...THAT person is correct!

 

I didn't start squirting until I was 40 years old! I had been HAPPILY married for 14 years to the same man, having sex the same way as always! One day, on our way to see a movie I might add, he started fingering me and much to BOTH our surprise, I started "leaking" fluid! The kicker was the more I leaked...the more I wanted it! I absolutely couldn't stop it! Neither of us knew what it was...I was slightly embarrassed...he was majorly turned on! We HAD to turn around and go home because my clothes were soaked!

 

Now, four years later, after much research AND experimentation....I am a happy "massive" squirter with a massively happy mate that loves me squirting more than anything else! Girlfriend...you are a RARE GEM WITH A RARE TALENT! You are NOT "different" or a "perv" or whatever else comment has been made in a derogatory manner! The fact that you say you think you "push" during that type of orgasm and think you should try not to is to stop the orgasm! Although orgasms by nature make you weak, tired and sleepy, (at times I cry after one just because of the release!) doesn't mean that you are failing during sex or not fun to be with! I know MANY MEN who promptly PASS-OUT right after they cum!

The only advice I can give is purely from my own experience and doesn't necessarily mean will apply to you! That doesn't mean you OR I are different in a weird way...every person's sexuality is unique and special! How boring would the world be if the only flavor we could experience was vanilla....please pardon the pun.

 

My experience is that a "clit" orgasm feels and is achieved different than a "squirting" orgasm. Both are amazing and satisfying! A clit orgasm requires a "sucking in" of the PC muscle (how you stop peeing) and a G-spot orgasm requires a "pushing out" of the same muscle. If your guy spends more time rubbing your clit while you are tightening those muscles you will clit cum. If he spends more time either manually stimulating your G-spot or having actual intercourse you will G-spot cum. (Squirt) I know some girls squirt from either orgasm and in that case then I guess it was just meant to be! By the way....to all the men nay-sayers who say you're peeing because the fluid is coming from your urethra (the same tube pee comes from) SO DO ALL MEN! Their cum and pee come out of the same hole!!!

 

I DO have to drink constantly during sex...regardless of which way I'm enjoying it! My mouth dries out from breathing heavy! Lol!

 

Other than that girlfriend...just experiment and have fun! Ultimately sex is only supposed to be about stimulation in order to achieve orgasm! If that's the only way you can cum...then drink extra water and ENJOY IT!

[GPHTallCouple 69]

Oh trust me, wasn't going to try to stop an orgasm from cumming, but if I am trying to push or rush the fluid out faster, I would like to stop.

 

I do try to have water with me or nearby for after sex, probably wouldn't hurt to make sure I have some before. I'm also thinking of eating salty foods so I can retain a bit more water than normal. I have had problems with low sodium levels in the past. That might explain why my body allows me to let go of too much water. My electrolyte balance might already be a tad precarious prior to squirting.

 

I probably starting squirting before I was 40, the first time I knew I was squirting I was pretty close to 40 though.

[lotsoffun201 175]

GPHTallCouple said:

Oh trust me, wasn't going to try to stop an orgasm from cumming, but if I am trying to push or rush the fluid out faster, I would like to stop.

 

I do try to have water with me or nearby for after sex, probably wouldn't hurt to make sure I have some before. I'm also thinking of eating salty foods so I can retain a bit more water than normal. I have had problems with low sodium levels in the past. That might explain why my body allows me to let go of too much water. My electrolyte balance might already be a tad precarious prior to squirting.

 

I probably starting squirting before I was 40, the first time I knew I was squirting I was pretty close to 40 though.

Well all I can tell you is that I squirt massive amounts and I don't have problems with low sodium! I squirt more than is humanly possible to pee! I just keeps coming out like a faucet turned all the way open!

 

I'm not debating whether or not you may have legitimate medical problems, I'm just saying that you don't have to have a medical problem to squirt vast amounts of fluid! And the trying to "push or rush the fluid out faster" is part of the orgasm in my mind! I'M COMPELLED!

 

Just trying to let you know you're normal, albeit rare, in the sexual arena!

[fun4Ds 1,098]

lotsoffun201 said:

DON'T LISTEN TO A MAN! MEN DON'T KNOW!

Ok, I'm a bit confused I don't speak for Women, but I do try to listen and understand, then convey that understanding to all. To say something in any conversation with a man or woman, Not to listen to either gender ? It's like blasphemy to my swing gods, Aphrodite, being one. A female by the way, who has blessed us in the lifestyle for having good communication. Do you think I could say to a fellow brother in the lifestyle "Don't listen to her, Women don't know" ???? Like I say that certainly feels like blasphemy, to not only Swinging, but ANY relationship as a whole

 

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Someone above said "the proof is in the pudding" or in our case "the puddle"...THAT person is correct!

 

Well, that would be me, A MAN ? I'm not trying to take these things personal but I sure feel they're directed at ME ?

 

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You are NOT "different" or a "perv" or whatever else comment has been made in a derogatory manner!

Yes she is different, as you are too, from me or my wife. You have a physical connection with GPHTallCouple. But that makes no one else WRONG. We could hash these things out in a PM or perhaps you could start a new thread where I would stand my ground that being different, is a beautiful thing. My wife, Mrsfun, has never "squirted" she's "different" and accepting of that fact. I can tell you, she would stand at my side, with ME knowing and understanding, HER, frustrations because of it. She in return, can accept my thrill and interests of a squirter, and feel comfortable with herself. Just as I can understand the possible frustrations of the OP in this thread. But I digress....

 

As far as derogatory statements about being call a "perv" ? That's our signature line.... Its not directed at anyone but Mrsfun and I on a personal level. I've read this entire thread and can find no other comment's other than, our own signature line "Well, at least we're normal pervs" Hell, I wrote a poem about it, with inspiration toward a song I'm working on. I hope it doesn't offend any one, and highly doubt it will. My hopes are of bringing people together who "get it" Men, women, Swingers, bisexuals, squirters, non-squirters, gays even those who are Straight. The world is full of different people But again, I digress...

 

Are we different, than others in the lifestyle ? Yes, in some ways but we also share common connections, sexually. We are normal pervs because we feel comfortable with not only our own selves, sexually, but as well with others, while the vanilla world calls us..... pervs.

[leftcoastcouple 32]

This is officially one of the strangest discussions I've seen in all my years of hanging around this place. I say that not as a judgment of the poster, but the topic itself. Thank goodness this sites exists so anyone can bring up anything they want without being ripped to shreds like they would be in most other places.

 

Mrs. LC is a very heavy squirter. We can't have sex without having a supply of towels on hand, and it's even more intense if she masturbates, receives oral sex or manual penetration (especially of the G Spot), or she otherwise gets direct stimulation. Sometimes, towels don't even do the job, and we're forced to change the sheets afterward. She's been this way for more than 20 years, when she first learned to relax and really enjoy herself during sex.

 

Despite this, there's no dehydration, being "done," etc. Unless the bed is drenched, she is more than capable of going back for more, whether with me or alone, the only detrimental effect for sex being a need to "relube" if we're going to have intercourse, since the fluid she squirts is more wet than slippery like normal vaginal lubrication. In fact, sometimes her subsequent orgasms--especially if she squirts again--are even more intense than the first.

 

As for shock, I'll reserve my comments. But for anyone to say that they are "not doctor friendly" in light of extreme physical symptoms, as GPHTallCouple does, is a dangerous game. The human body is a horribly complex mechanism, and if someone has a reaction so severe that they believe they are going into shock--or having seizures, or blacking out, etc.--it's silly not to at least discuss the situation with a qualified medical professional. There could easily be disorders at play here, and to not pay attention to them could be disastrous.

 

Just my three cents. On a happier note, I wonder what percentage of swinging women squirt and what their partners' reaction to it tends to be like. I find it a huge turn-on, and I consider myself lucky to be married to a squirter...

[lotsoffun201 175]

Dear Mr. Fun40,

I apologize if I offended you, as that was never my intention!

 

Let me explain my heart. If a male were post a question that said, "Is it possible for a man in his 50's to cum twice, back to back, without any recovery period in between? Because that's been happening to me and Ive never done this before? Am I normal? Should I try to stop it the second time and just be content with one? After 2 orgasms I instantly fall asleep and am unable to play! So is there something wrong with me?"

 

Then a post from a man comes up that says "Huh?" Try leaving your dick alone after the 1st one!"

 

And then comments from women started coming in, all of them incredulous and the flavor of their comments "as a whole" were things like..."There is no way in hell a man can do that....and if they say they are they're faking it!" Or "Are you doing this EVERY time you have sex? Maybe you should drink some caffeine and see if that helps you stay awake!" You get my gist!

 

If you'll remember the quote I made about, "Someone above said "the proof is in the pudding" or in our case "the puddle"...I ADDED TO THAT COMMENT...."THAT person is correct!" So I was in NO WAY saying that you were making "derogatory" comments!

 

My issue with the whole "issue" is that because it is a rare GIFT, (that adult film makers pay BIG MONEY FOR by the way! I was offered...but chose to decline.) and the majority of people have never even heard about it, while the rest of the majority believe it's impossible....OR claim that it is only urine...which it's not. There is an excellent on-line book by a female doctor who had never squirted but was intrigued by it and wondered if EVERY woman has the ability to squirt? So she started doing experiments...one of which was testing the fluid to see if it was indeed only urine! The chemical make up is completely different than urine.

 

GHPTall had made the comment, "Well, I guess I am more a freak of nature than I thought. Sigh...."

 

That comment of hers is a reflection of how she was taking the uneducated comments being made to her! Again, I'm not blaming you or your article and I don't feel there is anything wrong with people asking clarification questions! But when a host of comments makes a woman feel she is a "freak of nature"....THAT'S when I take offense! SHE IS NOT A FREAK OF NATURE!

 

I understand knee jerk reactions to one's who have never heard or experienced a woman who squirts! I get it all the time when we go to various "appropriate places" and Mr. Fun asks for 12 towels before we start playing in a room full of other people! People tend to stop what they are doing and stand around me while they watch the show! Some of the people ask my Mr. WHAT that was...others ask him HOW HE DID IT, (which by the way he does it SOOO good that I have cum in as short as 13 seconds!) Others ask HIM to try it on their girl (which I'm ALWAYS willing for) and even others ask if they can try it on ME to see what it feels like and if THEY can make me cum so they would know how to make their own girl cum that way! Not all of them can do it right and there are times I don't cum/squirt while another guy is trying on me. But that doesn't mean I'm dried up, because as soon as Mr. Fun gets a hold of my pussy...it will again happen in seconds! An interesting note to be made here is that there has NEVER, up to this point anyway, been a girl Mr.Fun has failed to make squirt! Obviously they don't squirt as much or as far their first time, and usually it takes a little longer on a newbie, but we're still talking seconds...not 10 minutes!

 

By the way, just for the record...the scenario I stated at the first of this text about a man being able to cum twice in a row with no recovery period in between...Mr. Fun just turned 50 a few days ago and he does that ALL THE TIME! Before seeing it with my own eyes, I would have ignorantly stated that it was impossible for men after their 20's to have the physical ability to do that! And THAT was my exact point in saying to the GPHTall Mrs. DON'T LISTEN TO A MAN...MEN DON'T KNOW! How can a man accurately say what a woman is capable of or not? Just as visa-versa, how can women know what a man is capable of when it's not something common to ALL men?

 

I DO wholeheartedly agree with your words at the end of your text where you said, "Are we different, than others in the lifestyle ? Yes, in some ways but we also share common connections, sexually. We are normal pervs because we feel comfortable with not only our own selves, sexually, but as well with others, while the vanilla world calls us..... pervs."

 

I agree with that and am not offended by the term "perv"! I'm more of a "perv" than you could imagine! Lol!

 

My ONLY concern in replying to Mrs. GPHTall was to assure her, from another WOMAN who lives in her same shoes, (or close to it) that she is NOT a "freak", there is nothing "wrong" with her and her sexuality, and to build her confidence in experiencing that which she has no control over!

 

Again, I apologize you Fun4Ds....please know that in my heart I was not attacking you or anyone else on the blog! Just trying to encourage a "fellow squirter"! Hugs and kisses! Muah!

[slevin 1,374]

And then comments from women started coming in, all of them incredulous and the flavor of their comments "as a whole" were things like..."There is no way in hell a man can do that....and if they say they are they're faking it!" Or "Are you doing this EVERY time you have sex? Maybe you should drink some caffeine and see if that helps you stay awake!" You get my gist!

 

I didn't see anyone reacting that way here. Everyone was addressing the fact that she feels she is going into shock after she squirts. Follow up questions to understand the frequency and impact of going into shock are quite appropriate. No one made any judgments in this thread that I saw. Going into shock is a serious thing and needs to be looked into. As I understood it she isn't just getting tired, she is going into shock.

[lotsoffun201 175]

Well maybe I was too defensive being a woman and fellow squirt queen! Lol! My apologies to any and all of you that felt flamed or that I might have hijacked the thread! Ive only been in the LS for a short time and generally don't post! I picked up on her phrase..."Well I guess I am more of a freak of nature than I thought...sigh." I didn't want her to worry about being "abnormal" just because many people have never encountered her gift!

 

But again...if I came across "on the war path" I sincerely apologize! My bad!

[MRSfun 152]

lotsoffun201 said:

Again, I apologize you Fun4Ds....please know that in my heart I was not attacking you or anyone else on the blog! Just trying to encourage a "fellow squirter"! Hugs and kisses! Muah!

 

Please understand, there is no apology necessary on behalf of my husband, Mrfun. He asked me to take a look at this over dinner and I believe both of you are saying the same thing in some ways. Being different is special. He has been calm talking about this with me, just as he means to sound toward you. I'm a lucky woman to have a man that can listen and not tell me what I think, but yet ask. Mrfun was just confused and is away at the moment. I can and do understand your situation, thank you for understanding ours.

 

Hugs,

Mrsfun

[lotsoffun201 175]

 

Just my three cents. On a happier note, I wonder what percentage of swinging women squirt and what their partners' reaction to it tends to be like. I find it a huge turn-on, and I consider myself lucky to be married to a squirter...

 

Mr. Fun here. I have been following the comments my Mrs. has been making with regards to this discussion. I am impressed with your statement about being lucky to be married to a squirter as I feel EXACTLY the same way. While I recall my Mrs. mentioning that I have been able to get every woman we have been with to accomplish this, and that is indeed the case, I was trained to do this by a professional. It requires manual stimulation done in a particular way for someone who has never experienced it. It does, however require a considerable amount of arm and hand strength and while initially appearing "rough" in fact it is quite the opposite. Once the woman experiences it for the first time, and basically is "forced" to let go using this method, it becomes subsequently easier. One thing I absolutely request they do is to pee immediately beforehand so there is NO QUESTION at all that the fluid expelled is NOT urine. After they squirt for the first time, it usually takes some time for the lady to recover enough to speak at all and perhaps this might be misconstrued as "going into shock"

 

I feel lucky to be with Mrs. Fun as it is incredibly sexy to watch her cum visibly so many times. We have soaked an entire California King bed in less than 30 minutes (photos to prove it ) And to the woman who felt she is a "freak of nature".....NO WAY! To the other posters who felt personally flamed Mrs. Funs comments.....her only concern was that the woman who posted originally realize that she is very normal and most likely not going into shock. I am a physician by the way and shock is defined by BLOOD LOSS, not vaginal secretions however large they may be. So unless she is "squirting" large amounts of blood which most certainly could not be overlooked, she is most likely experiencing the aftermath of such a "violent" release of fluid and orgasm. I have witnessed my Mrs on several occasions become immobile for 20 minutes or so after a particularly long session. The original poster should hydrate before a session and immediately after she is done. If doing it more than once, she should consider drinking water in between. We always keep a large bottle of water with a sport top next to us wherever we go. Funny thing is people who see the water bottle and know us realize what is about to happen

 

Frankly I have been really enjoying my Mrs. and this thread, perhaps sometime she might write a small article on this for the board to read if she gets the time!

[GPHTallCouple 69]

Well it's good to know that the squirting alone shouldn't be causing me to go into shock.

 

For the fellow squirters, I use a waterproof throw (Liberator brand). It is weird to bring my own blanket with me for sex but I have a hard time enjoying myself without it. Without it, I used to go through many layers of towels. I got so tired of doing laundry every time I had sex. I started having a lot of sex on my leather sofa. Love how water just rolls off of it. The throw has been a Godsend with swinging. I feel a lot more relaxed about having sex when I'm not worried about getting the furniture soaking wet.

[lotsoffun201 175]

The Liberator is a little expensive particularly when you have to take it with you. We found a better alternative. A waterproof picnic blanket! You can find them at Bed Bath and Beyond (during the season unfortunately) They fold and zip up so they look like a purse with a shoulder strap. Less than $20 and if you lose it ore forget it its not that upsetting.