shy_couple 460 Posted May 3, 2009 Over the past few weeks we have noticed, on Swing Lifestyle, people seeking people who are financially secure. At first in one profile, then several. Are they asking to be paid for sex? Asking you to pick up the tab for the evening? Or just making sure they don't get stuck with the tab for food, drinks, hotel, or whatever? With the economy all over the news, and hitting close to home, our entertainment budget is tight. As a result we are going out a little less and usually going to a club or house party when we do. But to us this is a weird red flag that may just be occurring in our area. Are others seeing similar postings? Any thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post
ktimephoenix 156 Posted May 3, 2009 I think it's a "nice" way of ensuring you don't get mr and mrs welfare in the sack, so that A: you can actually relate with the person, and B: you are not stuck with the bill. I mean if one couple thinks that McD's value menu is high class dining, and the other feels $15 for a meal is reasonable, there are going to be issues when it comes time to choose the meeting/play place. Even before the "crisis" in Australia at least, plenty of people listed that they were "professionally employed", or stated that they were after "employed people". Quote Share this post Link to post
CXXC 435 Posted May 3, 2009 Hmmmm... Interesting thoughts. I would think it is an attempt to find other couples who are in the same financial state as they are. Not so much to cover the tab and such, but someone who can go out and do stuff with. Does money really matter? No. But socioeconomically speaking, there is a mind set that comes with financial stability. Perhaps they are simply looking for others with the same mind set. THEN AGAIN!!!!! It could be a great way to meet people who are well off, go out with them, have a great meal, drink or what have you, go to their place, drop a couple Roofies in their drinks, they pass out, you wipe them out. Some times i scare me! Where do I get this shit? I guess it comes naturally! My mother had a bumper sticker on her vehicle that said, "Honk If you are rich!" They would honk, she would slam on the breaks! JUST KIDDING! Quote Share this post Link to post
Additude 457 Posted May 3, 2009 Over the past few weeks we have noticed, on Swing Lifestyle, people seeking people who are financially secure. At first in one profile, then several. Are they asking to be paid for sex? Asking you to pick up the tab for the evening? Or just making sure they don't get stuck with the tab for food, drinks, hotel, or whatever? With the economy all over the news, and hitting close to home, our entertainment budget is tight. As a result we are going out a little less and usually going to a club or house party when we do. But to us this is a weird red flag that may just be occurring in our area. Are others seeing similar postings? Any thoughts? Have you considered the opposite? I doubt your statement about "getting paid" for sex is an issue. However, not getting stuck with the bill, the tab for the evening, etc. is worthy of consideration. Plus maybe some folks like to go out a lot, party, eat, dance, drink, vacation, sail, whatever, which costs money and they are also looking for people who have the finances to keep up. I think there are several viable alternate considerations. Quote Share this post Link to post
fun4Ds 1,098 Posted May 3, 2009 I can't say we see that in profiles here in our area. Quote Share this post Link to post
SW_PA_Couple 4,027 Posted May 3, 2009 Over the past few weeks we have noticed, on Swing Lifestyle, people seeking people who are financially secure.My best recollection is that these words have not, actually, begun to appear just recently. They have existed in a certain number of profiles for as long and we have been reading them -- in our case, several years. I have a feeling that people who say "seeking people who are financially secure" are trying to say that swinging is not a poor man's sport but they don't know how to condense this message into just a few words. JoAnn and I have encountered the same situation that others have described here at Swingersboard. You are out with a couple on a get-acquainted date and you pretty soon come into the realization that they are trying to decided whether to order cocktails, dinner or dessert as they can only afford one of the three. Quote Share this post Link to post
exploringRM 305 Posted May 3, 2009 I've not seen the financially secure words but do see professional couple in many profiles. We would fall into that category from our jobs but it's currently not in our profile. It might convey a particular level of taste and affordability for various activities? Of course putting that in a profile does not really mean anything, until you meet. Quote Share this post Link to post
JustAskJulie 2,596 Posted May 3, 2009 I can definitely see where more couples might start saying that. I know for us lately it's happened more than once where we've been out with a couple and encountered the "we only brought enough money to do x or z". And in both cases they seemed to think that drinking was the higher importance.... and in both cases, it added to our decision that they definitely were not for us. In both of those cases, for us it was younger couples, and it's just been one more nail in the coffin for why we have come to prefer couples at least our age or older. Quote Share this post Link to post
JustMrJ 178 Posted May 3, 2009 I have not seen this in our area, but I will say that if we can't cover our own bill for the evening and possibly the other couple we are with, we won't go out. I've been laid off since November 1st of 2008, but I've never been one to stick someone else with the bill. FYI, I had a third interview this last Friday and hope to get the "You're hired, let's negotiate your salary." call. Quote Share this post Link to post
VegasLee 1,486 Posted May 3, 2009 "professional couple" Does that mean they are both hookers? Ok, another reason we pretty much stick to the club. I don't care how much money someone has and don't care and really don't want to know. AT the club, they are there, there is nothing for me to pay for. Money does not come into the picture at all. We also host bar meets, everyone pays for their own drinks. I guess the ones that are really drunk are the ones with the most money. (I don't drink, guess I don't have the most money) I hate for so many things to get in the way of being naked and having fun. Quote Share this post Link to post
Chicup 42 Posted May 3, 2009 Having been stuck with a bill a couple of times, I can understand this sentiment. Quote Share this post Link to post
JustAskJulie 2,596 Posted May 3, 2009 We weren't there but we heard about a couple who showed up to a local group dinner... first they needed a ride... another couple helped them out... then at dinner they didn't have enough to cover dinner...someone else helped them... THEN they asked for cab fair home. They were asked not to return. Quote Share this post Link to post
CXXC 435 Posted May 3, 2009 We weren't there but we heard about a couple who showed up to a local group dinner... first they needed a ride... another couple helped them out... then at dinner they didn't have enough to cover dinner...someone else helped them... THEN they asked for cab fair home. They were asked not to return. You have GOT to be kidding! Dare I guess, neither of them had condoms as well? Quote Share this post Link to post
corynlaine 118 Posted May 3, 2009 hmmm. I guess I'll chime in because in our original personal add, we ended it with something along the lines of "If you'd like to get to know us better, invite us out to dinner" Some one pointed out that this sounded like we were ASKING them to pay/take us out to dinner. When all we meant to say was 1)if we go out to dinner, to a restaurant of your choosing you will feel more comfortable and we will be able to talk - as opposed to a club where there are people and loud music ala the other post "what you say I can't hear you" 2)we are very adventurous when it comes to food. Anything from raw bars and sushi, to Indian food that offers breaded deep fried cows brains. and while these types of places may or may not be any more expensive then your local choke and puke this is not for everyone. If we picked this type of restaurant you may not be happy or comfortable. 3) it allows you to set the bar for cost - while not frequently, we have been known to spend upwards of $300 for dinner for 2. No we're not going to do this on a weekly basis, but if this is where you want to meet it's totally OK with us. The way we look at this is even if it didn't work out with you, at least we had some good food (hopefully - as we've found that local dives are on the average far more likely to offer unique cuisine then some of the high end places, but that's another topic. ) in a place we haven't tried before so the evening wasn't a total waist. Quote Share this post Link to post
two4youinswva 3,068 Posted May 3, 2009 You have GOT to be kidding! Dare I guess, neither of them had condoms as well? Yeah, they had condoms, but when he was ready to screw, someone had to stand behind him and push his ass up and down for the pumping action to happen. not really. well, maybe. Quote Share this post Link to post
sexylady1970 69 Posted May 3, 2009 We did see one profile recently that was filled with the usual likes and dislikes, what they were looking for and about them. One thing at the end struck me as beyond unusual and IMHO took a lot of nerve to write. To paraphrase...."single mature men are welcome. We are looking for a distinguished man who can treat us in the manner we would like with first class vacations and VIP status and tickets to the best venues in town" WTF is that all about? Quote Share this post Link to post
two4youinswva 3,068 Posted May 3, 2009 We did see one profile recently that was filled with the usual likes and dislikes, what they were looking for and about them. One thing at the end struck me as beyond unusual and IMHO took a lot of nerve to write. To paraphrase...."single mature men are welcome. We are looking for a distinguished man who can treat us in the manner we would like with first class vacations and VIP status and tickets to the best venues in town" WTF is that all about? That sounds like Pay for Play to me. - Sugar Daddy for two? Quote Share this post Link to post
shy_couple 460 Posted May 3, 2009 I hadn't really considered the compatibility on socio-economic levels as suggested. That does make sense as most of us have our own interests and tastes that can be dictated by these factors. I was really kidding about the paying for sex comment, as we don't really think this is true. It just seems like an odd way to phrase that you are looking for a certain type of person. Our profile states that we a PROFESSIONAL COUPLE WITH CAREERS AND A FAMILY. We thought that said the same thing without being so blunt. We have come to a similar conclusion as VegasLee, we like to meet at our favorite local club. Just pay the door charge and BYOB and you are set for the evening and you don't have to worry about overpriced restaurants, clubs, or that you may not have the same tastes as your date. Quote Share this post Link to post
Chicup 42 Posted May 3, 2009 I think professional couple is a euphemism for 'No white trash'. Which is fine, we don't play with white trash either, but let's be honest. People don't put professional couple in a profile to show they have money, but to show what class of people they are looking for. Quote Share this post Link to post
ktimephoenix 156 Posted May 4, 2009 It just seems like an odd way to phrase that you are looking for a certain type of person. Our profile states that we a PROFESSIONAL COUPLE WITH CAREERS AND A FAMILY. see we'd read that as "we require discretion as we are professionals with a reputation that could be sullied by accusations of swinging, and we may not be able to play at the drop of the hat due to family commitments". Quote Share this post Link to post
LFM2 1,483 Posted May 4, 2009 Really interesting conversation here. I've never seen anything like that in any of the profiles we've viewed. Quote Share this post Link to post
The Fuse 1,012 Posted May 4, 2009 We've seen a profile that says "We are an upscale couple", as well as a few others that make it clear they have plenty of money. I guess they are trying to either suggest that you should also have money if you want to play with them, or alternatively, they are suggesting that their money is part of their attractiveness to play partners. I've never "gotten" that... it's not like I'm going to benefit from their having fancy cars or jewelery. I think that if someone thinks their money makes them more attractive as a swinger, they've got the wrong idea. Beyond the point where they're not expecting us to pay their bill, we don't care how much money they have. However, if some people's primary venue for playing is at Hedo or Desire, then we're not really for them either as we spend our money and vacation time on other things. We've seen a few profiles that suggest they swing on vacation. Obviously the money is a factor there. But even if they find people with money, those people would also have to want to travel. We travel, but not to swing. Our profile specifically says that we don't care about others' status in society. If people are cutting down on their entertainment budget, we can adjust. We don't like trashy people, but poor and trashy don't necessarily go hand in hand. Conversely, we know people with plenty of money but no class. Sigh... I do wish we had on-premise clubs around here... Quote Share this post Link to post
LFM2 1,483 Posted May 4, 2009 We've seen a profile that says "We are an upscale couple", as well as a few others that make it clear they have plenty of money. I've always thought of those who I see in profiles that have their pictures taken alongside them and their corvettes or other fancy whatevers are saying as well. If people are cutting down on their entertainment budget, we can adjust. We don't like trashy people, but poor and trashy don't necessarily go hand in hand. Conversely, we know people with plenty of money but no class. Sigh... I do wish we had on-premise clubs around here... Even though our profile doesn't state what yours does, we should. We don't have a problem with only meeting for drinks instead of dinner. We just wish we had clubs. On-premise or off-premise. This is just too conservative an area for anything like that. Quote Share this post Link to post
CXXC 435 Posted May 4, 2009 We have met some people in our travels abroad that felt money made them more appealing as swingers. Needless to say, Mrs. CXXC had little to do with them from that moment on. Upscale, well to do, Successful, whatever they wish to call themselves, My money is on people! Not what they own or do. I don't fuck a wallet or a purse, so what do I care? Quote Share this post Link to post
lovenestduo 74 Posted May 5, 2009 I think Fuse nailed it. It's like some people's enjoyment comes mainly from thinking they are better than others. Everyone's equal once in bed nekkid. We don't have time for people that mention class or status in their profile as, more than likely, they have other rules, restrictions and hangups that they haven't mentioned. Even clubs that advertise as "upscale" we stay away from due to the high snob ratio. We did see one profile recently that was filled with the usual likes and dislikes, what they were looking for and about them. One thing at the end struck me as beyond unusual and IMHO took a lot of nerve to write. To paraphrase...."single mature men are welcome. We are looking for a distinguished man who can treat us in the manner we would like with first class vacations and VIP status and tickets to the best venues in town" WTF is that all about? I think this was a humorous/sarcastic way of saying no single men. Like "single men welcome, must have 12 inch dick made of chocolate that ejaculates money" Quote Share this post Link to post
LikeMinds321 1,527 Posted May 5, 2009 I haven't seen any difference in recent months in how people describe themselves or their interests. The mention of "we enjoy fine wines and classy restaurants, travel, visits to Hedo annually, and the theatre" isn't any different then those many profiles I more often see that say "we enjoy riding our Harley's with other swingers, camping, baseball, hotdogs and beer." People, who may have different income levels, are merely pointing out what things they enjoy in life and hope to enjoy with other swingers. If people mention things/activities they enjoy that require more money, it does not turn me off to them any more than those who mention their enjoyment of things/activities that cost less. Bottom line: If anyone puts a lot of emphasis on needing certain mutual activities as a requirement to meet/play - and there doesn't seem to be any common ground between us on those things - we'll probably not contact them whether they appear well-to-do or middle-to-lower income. Quote Share this post Link to post
readytoplay104 15 Posted May 5, 2009 Swinging is like anything else we all choose our friends and playmates we don't care to socialize or play with anyone from the welfare, low class or anyone who cannot or is not paying their mortgages or other bills. Quote Share this post Link to post
good times 991 Posted May 6, 2009 "single mature men are welcome. We are looking for a distinguished man who can treat us in the manner we would like with first class vacations and VIP status and tickets to the best venues in town" WTF is that all about? I think this is just a creative way to eliminate single guys, and those with no sense of humor. Quote Share this post Link to post
JustAskJulie 2,596 Posted May 8, 2009 This reminded me of this poll/thread: Would someone's income be a factor in your decision to contact them? Quote Share this post Link to post
ktown 15 Posted May 9, 2009 In these hard times all the people who are looking for people they call classy because they have money might one day be on the other side of the coin when they get laid off or their company closes. Swinging does not have to be expensive, it is what you make it. Quote Share this post Link to post