The things we forget...

[Spoomonkey 421]

We used to be here all the time, but took a long break. Now we are back and excitedly planning our "reentry" into swinging.

 

First and foremost, we want to reconnect with old friends, but - of course - we are always looking for new ones. So we have dusted off our Swing Lifestyle ad, clicked around the threads here, discussed our fantasies again and rediscussed our experiences, good and bad...

 

Of course, in our excitement, I made the statement, "this is going to be easy!"

 

HA!

 

Now reality is setting in.

 

The things I have reminded myself of while sweeping off the swinging cobwebs:

 

1. Finding couples where both husband and wife are attractive is kind of difficult. Ad after ad of cute woman and "not as well kept" husband. And - the rare vice versa...

 

2. As much as we like the idea of single men for Mrs Spoo, there are reasons why we stopped looking... Dammit...

 

3. The phrase "we are attractive" means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

 

4. It is possible to take swinging so seriously that all of the fun gets sucked out of it - and the first way to do that is to write a stand-off-ish profile with a list of "expectations" a mile long. We all have our strike zones, but come on...

 

5. Couple profiles with only the picture of the wife feels like you are going to be stepping in a big puddle of awkward the minute you find out the reason for the "no hubby pic" is immediately evident when they finally send you one.

 

I am sure that I will come up with more as the days go by.

 

What about you? Ever take a break only to come back and think "Oh.. I didn't miss this part..."?

 

What other reminders will be heading our way?

[good times 991]

Welcome back buddy.

 

One old problem that has gotten decidedly worse, is the quantity of non-swingers (voyeurs/exhibitionist and so called "soft swingers") that seem to have all but taken over the lifestyle lately. Their are so many of them coming to the clubs in our area that the people actually looking for folks to have sex with are pretty much staying home in frustration. Seems like the swingers clubs have become the modern risque dance club/hangout.

 

Other than that, all I can say is, knowing you guys, I don't think you will have any problem jumping back in.

[fun4Ds 1,098]

It's so just good to hear from you like this. We sure hope your "reentry" is smooth with an outstanding, sensual landing. You and Mrs.Spoomonkey deserve that for sure.

 

I didn't see you post about those new people you meet and then you know, you just like them, you will always will..... But you didn't know that looking at a profile.... Then those you meet that you like them and then, well you know, we all wanna get passionate about it

 

It doesn't sound like your in tune with the personalities behind the profile or people you might be meeting yet.

 

This is weird me saying that to a man that is a king of his own swingdom..... Lets get to the more important stuff you may have forgotten.

 

Do you remember the bad food at some the clubs on a bad night ? It's still there..... I swear, same stuff.....Go ahead, poke your ant stick at it, you tell me

 

Its why we stop at those greasy berger joints in the wee hours of the morning. Or even worse we go into the seven eleven cause there all closed and Denny's is way off coarse from the motel or home. Now thats got to ring a bell....

 

As far as single males go, It seems like over time now many have come along way understanding the lifestyle. We see some damn good profiles with good dude's behind them more often now.

 

But sure enough, we still see those with a vocabulary limited to "Daumn, your olé lady sure has a nice ass "

 

We're just sitting here tonight having a margarita, talking about a few posts ourselves. I'm yakking on my computer and Mrs fun is over on Swing Lifestyle pervin your profile... Hope ya didn't forget us..... we're still the same

[SW_PA_Couple 4,023]

It's a fact. You have to kiss a lot of toads before you find a prince.

 

Glad to see y'all back at The Swingersboard.

[Spoomonkey 421]

good times said:

One old problem that has gotten decidedly worse, is the quantity of non-swingers (voyeurs/exhibitionist and so called "soft swingers") that seem to have all but taken over the lifestyle lately.

 

That was a growing problem when we came out there. Sad that nothing has changed - except to get worse. I guess the only real fun to have is at your place, eh?

 

You do make some damn fine waffles, after all.

 

That is really one of our fears. On the one hand, I am sure there has been some turnover in the local scene - which is going to be nice actually. Much nicer than having to do the "no thanks dance" with the same twenty or so couples you've already played that game with.

 

But - on the other hand - what will the crowd be? We need to more "watchers" about as much as we need a glory hole that spills out into the alley...

 

[Spoomonkey 421]

fun4Ds said:

Do you remember the bad food at some the clubs on a bad night ? It's still there..... I swear, same stuff.....Go ahead, poke your ant stick at it, you tell me

 

Its why we stop at those greasy berger joints in the wee hours of the morning. Or even worse we go into the seven eleven cause there all closed and Denny's is way off coarse from the motel or home. Now thats got to ring a bell....

 

It rings a bell so well that I need a Tums...

 

fun4Ds said:

As far as single males go, It seems like over time now many have come along way understanding the lifestyle. We see some damn good profiles with good dude's behind them more often now.

 

That is encouraging, really. Hopefully there are more guys who have taken the time to understand what we are doing. No doubt the guys who get it - and take the time to get it - are going to have a lot more fun than the guys who don't.

 

We are always open to that - so our fingers our crossed. And if you are wrong, I'll poke YOU with the ant stick.

 

fun4Ds said:

But sure enough, we still see those with a vocabulary limited to "Daumn, your olé lady sure has a nice ass "

 

Well - there is a pretty good reason why you guys would get a lot of "nice ass" comments

 

fun4Ds said:

We're just sitting here tonight having a margarita, talking about a few posts ourselves. I'm yakking on my computer and Mrs fun is over on Swing Lifestyle pervin your profile... Hope ya didn't forget us..... we're still the same

 

Tell her to perv away. We perv, too. Tell her I said, "nice hat."

[knb2004 364]

One old problem that has gotten decidedly worse, is the quantity of non-swingers (voyeurs/exhibitionist and so called "soft swingers") that seem to have all but taken over the lifestyle lately.

 

We've noticed that, too, and it's why we tend to stick to on-prem parties and clubs. In our experience the faux-swingers do not go to on-prem events.

[socolais 696]

Hey, good to see that you're back. Missed your humorously insightful comments,,, and then you walk through the door swinging a big purple something-or-other....

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

I've taken two breaks (more or less) and wow things have really changed or so it seems... maybe part of it is that I've changed and my relationship has changed. But even the short break we took last year had such a huge impact on us and it felt like that little break set us back to almost starting all over again.

 

The first break was a couple of years and coming back to the lifestyle and comparing to the way things were my first time around it seems like a completely different world. But, again I've changed, my relationship has changed (it's a different relationship) and my location has changed (across the country basically), so there are lot of little things that have a huge impact. But, man it did seem so much easier back then when the internet was such a small piece of the swinging pie. Now it seems like the primary ingredient. As Lee would say, I remember when swinging was about sex.

[Spoomonkey 421]

JustAskJulie said:

Now it seems like the primary ingredient. As Lee would say, I remember when swinging was about sex.

 

I missed the part where the internet wasn't a big deal. We have never really liked it much - and haven't had the best of luck with it. But I've heard stories of bulletin boards, swinger mags, etc.

 

Honestly we are hoping that getting back things will be as good or better than when we left. Fingers crossed anyway - even the ones on my foot.

 

I do wonder how our life changes will affect what we do. It will be close to two years before we really get back to it. That is a long time and a lot of changes. And I feel you on the location change... We are strongly considering moving home to Florida to be around the family (a lot of deaths recently have put family back into perspective) but we can't help but worry about how different the scene will be down there.

 

This sure isn't like riding a bike is it?

[Ed & Bunny 160]

Spoomonkey said:

Of course, in our excitement, I made the statement, "this is going to be easy!"

 

HA!

 

Now reality is setting in.

 

The things I have reminded myself of while sweeping off the swinging cobwebs:

 

1. Finding couples where both husband and wife are attractive is kind of difficult. Ad after ad of cute woman and "not as well kept" husband. And - the rare vice versa...

 

5. Couple profiles with only the picture of the wife feels like you are going to be stepping in a big puddle of awkward the minute you find out the reason for the "no hubby pic" is immediately evident when they finally send you one.

 

Good to see you back Spoo. I have always enjoyed reading your viewpoints. Case being the above quoted lines. We see exactly the same thing. Keep the good stuff comming.

[If_You_Please 81]

2. As much as we like the idea of single men for Mrs Spoo, there are reasons why we stopped looking... Dammit...

 

3. The phrase "we are attractive" means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

 

(2) - I take offense to that!!

 

(3) - I won't speak on the subjectivity of "attractiveness", but I think this pasty white bod does all the speaking required.

 

Honestly we are hoping that getting back things will be as good or better than when we left. Fingers crossed anyway - even the ones on my foot.

 

It's impossible for things not to be better. As all of this technology in communication and transportation advances, our Lifestyle advances with it. It's easier than ever for me to find like-minded, interesting people in the world to share experiences with and easier than ever to make my way to wherever they happen to be. It'll be even easier tomorrow. It's an exciting time for the advancement of Human Sexuality!!

[Spoomonkey 421]

If_You_Please said:

(2) - I take offense to that!!

 

Fair enough - but it is still an accurate reflection of our experiences.

 

If_You_Please said:

As all of this technology in communication and transportation advances, our Lifestyle advances with it.

 

Well - it isn't like we have just been teleported from the 1950s - and I am not so sure it is easier. To read the people who have been in this for a long time things have gotten less defined, more complicated and in some ways, not as much fun.

 

We started in 2003 and from then to now the biggest advances have been the Toyota Hybrid, the Ice Bike, YouTube, the iPhone, smog-eating concrete and the retail DNA test (I guess I can see how that would be handy for the unvasectomized out there).

 

We haven't really seen any Space Odyssey, monkey-meets-monolith type advances. There is "the Sixth Sense" project going on at MIT that may be the next stage of evolution - and make swing experiences more uncomfortable than a cavity search - but for now we just have a better Xbox.

 

And I'm just playing with you mostly. I'm enjoying your posts around here

[If_You_Please 81]

I wanted to add a quick thought on this...

 

To read the people who have been in this for a long time things have gotten less defined, more complicated and in some ways, not as much fun.

 

...

 

I see less defined as a move in the right direction. The less definition involved the more true everyone can be to themselves.

 

Complicated? Hmm, I like to think of myself as pretty complex and, honestly, simplicity is sometimes over-rated.

 

"Not as much fun" really just sounds like a personal problem for them. I'm living proof that all the fun you could want or need is available right in the here and now.

 

 

I believe it's important to appreciate and accept something for what it is, not what it was. It's wonderful to have fond memories of times past, but when you get bogged down in those memories to the point that it closes you off to the present it becomes a problem.

 

Just some mid-day musings...

[Spoomonkey 421]

We're floating off topic, but I am in a mid-day musing mood as well...

 

If_You_Please said:

I see less defined as a move in the right direction. The less definition involved the more true everyone can be to themselves.

 

Self-actualization is important. Being yourself is great. But what used to be people having sex is now people watching people have sex like they are monkeys in a zoo (and seriously, quit it folks!).

 

Think of it this way - you are running a race - 100 meter dash. You are good at it and travel to a lot of meets. But before long you have a guy who decides to skip instead of run.

 

Then a guy comes along who wants to partner up and do a wheelbarrow race.

 

Then you have a group of people who really just want to mill about in the middle of the track and eat fudge rounds (yeah, I am jonesin').

 

You see the problem? So you come to race and you step into what looks like a festival of some sort - and what once was straight forward is now something that you wonder if you really belong in anymore.

 

So while it may be all well and good for people to be themselves, it can really be a proverbial "wet blanket" when people get into "piss play" in the club showers. Swinging is becoming more and more "whatever" - and this is something I've learned from the sages around here - which makes it tougher to start on the common ground of "let's get together and have sex."

 

If_You_Please said:

Complicated? Hmm, I like to think of myself as pretty complex and, honestly, simplicity is sometimes over-rated.

 

Complicated for the sake of complicated is silly. What I wouldn't give for someone who could write clear directions when I am putting together a bicycle.

 

I think everyone is complex - it is part of the human condition. We may approach things straight on or ass backwards - but as individuals we are all fairly layered.

 

Simplicity is really just complexity understood

 

If_You_Please said:

"Not as much fun" really just sounds like a personal problem for them. I'm living proof that all the fun you could want or need is available right in the here and now.

 

This is really a bit of talk show gaga, isn't it? I mean - I get what you're saying. In that whole "motivational poster" sense, fun is a frame of mind. I get it.

 

But...

 

What you are really doing is lifting the phrase out of context and making what is really an unrelated point.

 

Here's why...

 

You can always choose to have fun. You could be stuck on a plane from Pennsylvania filled with Amish men going to an Amish Man convention and work positive thinking like a cow working over his cud. You can pep-talk yourself into enjoying the flight.

 

But the point I was making above is clearly "fun=sex". For a swinger, the real point of swinging is to hook up with like-minded, attractive friends. All the complexity taken out of it - swinging is about sex.

 

And sex is a whole lot more fun than whatever transcendental altered state that you have happened to internally rah-rah'd yourself into for the sake of finding fun in a night that would have been - without the intervention of the Carnegie Institute - a bust.

 

As I understand it, it used to be a lot more direct - from meeting to sex you had a couple of steps.

 

From the perspective of someone from that "era" of swinging, this new world of private messages, followed by instant messaging, followed by talk on the phone, followed by cam'ing, followed by dinner and drinks, followed by drinks, followed by dinner, starts to look like more work than is worth it. And therefore "not as much fun."

 

So while we can certainly follow "the road less traveled" and smile in all circumstances - actually having sex is way more fun than not.

 

Follow me?

[If_You_Please 81]

Spoomonkey said:

Think of it this way - you are running a race - 100 meter dash. You are good at it and travel to a lot of meets. But before long you have a guy who decides to skip instead of run.

 

Then a guy comes along who wants to partner up and do a wheelbarrow race.

 

Then you have a group of people who really just want to mill about in the middle of the track and eat fudge rounds (yeah, I am jonesin').

 

You see the problem? So you come to race and you step into what looks like a festival of some sort - and what once was straight forward is now something that you wonder if you really belong in anymore.

 

So while it may be all well and good for people to be themselves, it can really be a proverbial "wet blanket" when people get into "piss play" in the club showers. Swinging is becoming more and more "whatever" - and this is something I've learned from the sages around here - which makes it tougher to start on the common ground of "let's get together and have sex."

 

First, a simply beautiful analogy. Also, I think it's important to be respectful of others "niche desires" when in a setting like a club. Sure, there's some craaaazy shit going on in the semi-private room that even I think is a bit racy. I simply move along to some people/acts that do interest me. I don't dramatize what others are into/doing - if I don't like it, I go about my business.

 

 

 

Spoomonkey said:

Simplicity is really just complexity understood

 

Great quote! I'm going to remember that one.

 

 

 

Spoomonkey said:

This is really a bit of talk show gaga, isn't it? I mean - I get what you're saying. In that whole "motivational poster" sense, fun is a frame of mind. I get it.

 

But...

 

What you are really doing is lifting the phrase out of context and making what is really an unrelated point.

 

But the point I was making above is clearly "fun=sex". For a swinger, the real point of swinging is to hook up with like-minded, attractive friends. All the complexity taken out of it - swinging is about sex.

 

And sex is a whole lot more fun than whatever transcendental altered state that you have happened to internally rah-rah'd yourself into for the sake of finding fun in a night that would have been - without the intervention of the Carnegie Institute - a bust.

 

As I understand it, it used to be a lot more direct - from meeting to sex you had a couple of steps.

 

From the perspective of someone from that "era" of swinging, this new world of private messages, followed by instant messaging, followed by talk on the phone, followed by cam'ing, followed by dinner and drinks, followed by drinks, followed by dinner, starts to look like more work than is worth it. And therefore "not as much fun."

 

So while we can certainly follow "the road less traveled" and smile in all circumstances - actually having sex is way more fun than not.

 

I'm not attempting to be a "motivational poster"; I suppose my goal is to be a "stimulative poster". I have strong outlooks and opinions about this lifestyle, but they are also still very malleable. So I like posts that elicit passionate, insightful replies from people, many of whom I'm growing to respect very much.

 

I'm also not lifting anything out of context - I was defining fun in my statement just as you were in yours: "fun=sex".

 

"Swinging is about sex" - it doesn't get any clearer than that. I'm not sure what exactly gave you the impression that this fact is lost on me. Because swinging is about sex, I put a focus on comfort. I make it my top priority to be sure my partners are comfortable with the path to the fun and the activities during the fun itself. I've said it before, but I will again here - I believe adaptability is the most valuable asset I have in the lifestyle. I can swing however you like to swing.

 

"Actually having sex is way more fun than not" - no arguments here.

 

"Follow Me?" - sure, I'd consider it...assuming your orders aren't too outlandish.

 

I'll end by saying that I feel extremely lucky that your return to this board coincided with me finding this board. Your thoughts and insights are invaluable.

[realcplub2 513]

Welcome Back Spoo.

 

Love the comments on running a reace and the diversity of the people that take the race to mean what they want it to mean...

 

Now to the bare bones, this lifestyle yes is about sex... But more importantly its supposed to be FUN.. If it isn't, why participate?

 

Part of the problem is, if you look at the stats from any of the "decent" sites, on a weekly basis they are signing up 3000 people a week, on average. Taken those numbers that 150,000 a year. Thats the game players, Picture Hunters, the Cyber sex players, the fetishist, the soft swappers, and yes real swingers, newbies or otherwise, but the problem is finding the needles in the hay stacks.

 

Unfortunately, it's all about the hunt anymore, not the fun.

[Spoomonkey 421]

realcplub2 said:

Unfortunately, its all about the hunt any more, not the fun..

 

Exactly!!!

 

That makes the point very nicely. Well put

[Spoomonkey 421]

If_You_Please said:

I'm not attempting to be a "motivational poster"; I suppose my goal is to be a "stimulative poster".

 

That makes things fun around here. Anything to get us away from the same answers given to the same questions. Stimulate away!

 

If_You_Please said:

I'm also not lifting anything out of context - I was defining fun in my statement just as you were in yours: "fun=sex".

 

Your statement re: fun was "I'm living proof that all the fun you could want or need is available right in the here and now." Now replace "fun" with "sex" in the statement above and I simply don't buy it.

 

As a married man, I do get all of the sex that I want and need - and with the experiences I have had in swinging I get more than most men - and more than I probably deserve. However, in the context of my reply - that swinging is becoming increasingly "less fun" as the process to get to the "sex" gets more complicated.

 

That isn't a "personal issue". It is the changing nature of swinging in general.

 

If_You_Please said:

I've said it before, but I will again here - I believe adaptability is the most valuable asset I have in the lifestyle. I can swing however you like to swing.

 

According to your SLS ad and a few of your posts, you are bisexual. Right? That allows you a lot more room for adaptability that others don't have. But would you agree that "I can swing however you like to swing" is not entirely accurate? There are lines that you won't cross? Places that even your adaptability will not take you?

 

And being adaptable does not necessarily negate the frustration of change. If the change means more work and less "reward" then the "fun" is going to decrease. I think that is fairly standard thinking.

 

And that change in "fun" is the point I was making.

 

If_You_Please said:

I'll end by saying that I feel extremely lucky that your return to this board coincided with me finding this board. Your thoughts and insights are invaluable.

 

Thanks. I enjoy people who can debate without getting too nasty (a little nasty is always fun).

[If_You_Please 81]

"I'm living proof that all the fun you could want or need is available right in the here and now." Now replace "fun" with "sex" in the statement above and I simply don't buy it.

 

It must be due to a lack of purchasing power...what else could I mean, given the context?

 

 

That isn't a "personal issue". It is the changing nature of swinging in general.

 

I'll give you that, but I want to add that fun is subjective. It's important to make an effort to enjoy the plane ride with the Amish just as much as you enjoy the Annual Quilting and Churning Festival. I've had many journeys that beat the hell out of the destination...not in swinging, granted, but...just saying.

 

 

 

But would you agree that "I can swing however you like to swing" is not entirely accurate? There are lines that you won't cross? Places that even your adaptability will not take you?

 

If it doesn't involve irreversible mutilation, I can't think of much that I wouldn't try at least once. That's no marketing bullshit, either, just a philosophy I try (and succeed) to live by.

 

 

a little nasty is always fun

 

Finally, something I think everyone here can easily agree on.

[Spoomonkey 421]

If_You_Please said:

It must be due to a lack of purchasing power...what else could I mean, given the context?

 

I guess then my question is - are you making a practical statement or a philosophical one? Can you get all of the sex through swinging that you want here and now? Do your "wants and needs" change based on opportunity? I guess I am just asking for a practical explanation of what you mean...

 

Does sex happen for you at the snap of your fingers? If so, you have much to offer the rest of us.

 

If_You_Please said:

I'll give you that, but I want to add that fun is subjective. It's important to make an effort to enjoy the plane ride with the Amish just as much as you enjoy the Annual Quilting and Churning Festival. I've had many journeys that beat the hell out of the destination...not in swinging, granted, but...just saying.

 

I get that and for me it goes back to the motivational poster statement. We can "choose" to enjoy pretty much anything. It is all about attitude. We could even "choose" to enjoy going through the motions of looking for swing partners only to be frustrated. We could "choose" to go home and talk ourselves into whatever state of happy we want.

 

But that is well off point.

 

If_You_Please said:

If it doesn't involve irreversible mutilation, I can't think of much that I wouldn't try at least once. That's no marketing bullshit, either, just a philosophy I try (and succeed) to live by.

 

So - there are limits. We all have them. Mine are less expansive I'll admit, but by having boundaries we have established some common ground.

 

If_You_Please said:

Finally, something I think everyone here can easily agree on.

 

If we can't all agree on a little nasty, it is probably time to head home and start collecting cats

[If_You_Please 81]

Ok, I feel like I'm being over analytical at this point, so this is my last post in this vein.

 

I guess then my question is - are you making a practical statement or a philosophical one? Can you get all of the sex through swinging that you want here and now? Do your "wants and needs" change based on opportunity? I guess I am just asking for a practical explanation of what you mean...

 

Does sex happen for you at the snap of your fingers? If so, you have much to offer the rest of us.

 

OK, to be fair I may not have kept the words 'fun' and 'sex' exclusive. While sex=fun, so do a lot of things. If I had meant only sex, I could have excluded the word "want". I intended a practical and a philosophical meaning in my statement. I regularly feel fulfilled, both with the necessities and the little extras that I enjoy and that add so much to life.

 

 

 

I get that and for me it goes back to the motivational poster statement. We can "choose" to enjoy pretty much anything. It is all about attitude. We could even "choose" to enjoy going through the motions of looking for swing partners only to be frustrated. We could "choose" to go home and talk ourselves into whatever state of happy we want.

 

But that is well off point.

 

Again, conceded. Get back on the horse, look on the bright side, you can do it! I am, in fact, an optimist despite many years of being a dark, brooding individual. Hell, maybe it's just an equal-opposite reaction. Oh well, one of my favorite quotes of all time:

 

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events." - Robert Heinlein

 

I do have a jones for being right, though...

 

[Activate Motivational Poster]

I suppose the most important thing is not to let "The things we forget..." discourage you from pursuing the things you enjoy.

[End Motivational Poster]

 

 

 

 

 

 

So - there are limits. We all have them. Mine are less expansive I'll admit, but by having boundaries we have established some common ground.

 

Sure, I should have added that lovely prepositional phrase that highlights the best parts of being human: I can swing however you like to swing "in reason". That's better.

 

 

 

 

I feel like a fencer with a sore, bulging, over-worked saber arm...

[Spoomonkey 421]

If_You_Please said:

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events." - Robert Heinlein

 

I like this quote. I am actually an optimist.

 

I think we both need a break from fencing. It's been fun!

[sweet_tna 680]

This sure isn't like riding a bike is it?

 

Sure it is! Once you find the bike you want to ride, you hop on, and ride it down that big ole' hill, hanging on for dear life.

 

As for instructions of how to put a bike together, would now be a good time to mention that my parents used to own a bike shop? I still have most of the tools . . .

 

Glad to see you're back, you've been missed.

 

=)

[If_You_Please 81]

Sure it is! Once you find the bike you want to ride, you hop on, and ride it down that big ole' hill, hanging on for dear life.

 

=)

 

 

Should I feel bad that it took me an eight page essay to conclude the same point that sweet here so eloquently put in a matter of 28 words? Something tells me I should!

 

Nice Post

[sweet_tna 680]

Should I feel bad that it took me an eight page essay to conclude the same point that sweet here so eloquently put in a matter of 28 words? Something tells me I should!

 

Nice Post

 

Absolutely not! Seems to me, Spoo was enjoying your little tete-a-tete. Thanks all the same.

 

=)

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

Spoomonkey said:

This sure isn't like riding a bike is it?

 

Nope not so much. Especially not when things change around you at the rate that they do. Clubs come and go, the people change a bunch (although some of your old friends are still here).

 

We only took 6 months off this last time, and things changed a lot around us. Our favorite on-premise club seems to be in a constant state of evolution. The local clubs come and go like a hooker in the night.

 

Some things remain the same, like your ability to make friends quickly ?

 

Seriously though, we have begun to figure out what the websites are good for in the lifestyle and what they aren't. We've migrated to making our own fun, creating our own groups and get togethers, using the web to see who's going to a club and determine if we want to go there too. Then we go and meet people in person, skipping by all this hello, how do you do, web nonsense that goes on, and finding out just who is for real and who is really attractive vs just saying it.

 

And I'm sure you will soon remember (amongst all those other things you forgot) just how great the people HERE are and how they stand out amongst the crowd of swingers to become real friends, who are still here for you even after your 2 year absence.

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JustAskJulie said:

We've migrated to making our own fun, creating our own groups and get togethers, using the web to see who's going to a club and determine if we want to go there too. Then we go and meet people in person, skipping by all this hello, how do you do, web nonsense that goes on, and finding out just who is for real and who is really attractive vs just saying it.

 

When you get it figured out, you should really make this available! It sounds like the very thing anyone who deals with the internet would love. I can't imagine there is anyone who likes the endless email and weeding out process.

 

Or you could just keep it to yourself and make out like bandits...

 

Or find a way to share it and still make out like bandits!!!

 

I'll be the first subscriber.

 

JustAskJulie said:

And I'm sure you will soon remember (amongst all those other things you forgot) just how great the people HERE are and how they stand out amongst the crowd of swingers to become real friends, who are still here for you even after your 2 year absence.

 

The board and especially the meet ups we've been to have cemented how good the people are here. Mrs Spoo still talks about the impact of the Indy meet up on our "early days".

 

And it does feel like coming home. We missed it here. I am just waiting for Mrs Spoo to stop reading and start posting - then we'll all be one big happy family again.

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Hi guys

 

Good to see you on-line again. We can relate, we're on a break of sorts ourselves. A few months ago we met a couple that we thought would be good friends for a long while. Not only did that not happen but the whole experience soured things for us very badly. We havn't given up though.(see next paragraph)

 

Having said that try and remember the good times as well. Like...the SB meet up in Columbus, followed by breakfast at a certain monkees house, etc. The only reason we didn't quit completely is because we have had some very good times and met some good people we would not have otherwise encountered. Hope to see you both again sometime in the future.

 

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