No Condoms

[nursemolli 17]

We NEVER use condoms. We both luv the feeling & taste of cum. I have a sixth sense and can tell when someone is not healthy. We don’t swing with drunks, druggies, smokers or heavily tattooed people. If a person obviously disregards their own health, we just pass on them. This has worked for us for 40 years.

[Additude 457]

I wouldn't say that's a good thing or a bad thing. I agree with you on your filtering out those you consider undesireable, but even people outside your catagories perpetrate.

 

Consider you having swapped with a couple that doesn't share your views. Suppose they had sex with one of those listed in your catagories. The way STD's work, it's basically no different than you having sex with one of those listed in your catagories.

 

I'm not condoning or supporting the use of or the non-use of condoms. We, like you prefer to go without. However, I just wanted to add some scope to your mindset.

[Speed & Trixie 163]

We NEVER use condoms. We both luv the feeling & taste of cum. I have a sixth sense and can tell when someone is not healthy. We don’t swing with drunks, druggies, smokers or heavily tattooed people. If a person obviously disregards their own health, we just pass on them. This has worked for us for 40 years.

 

Perhaps you could parlay this talented sixth sense.... I bet there are lots of real-life applications for this. Example: my friend HATES needles and goes into hysterics every time she has blood drawn. If you could just tell her whether she's healthy, she'd pay BIG BUCKS to not get poked (with a needle, that is).

 

Trixie

[SAMnTINA 362]

Come play with us. We also prefer no condoms and feel that the protection they seem to offer gives some the idea that being selective in choosing their partners does not matter.

[sweet_tna 680]

Hey, swinging is what you make of it. There are plenty of people who prefer (and do) play bareback. As long as you realize that your sixth sense doesn't cover you on your playmates' other partners and that you're still taking a risk, then more power to you.

 

=)

[ArousedInterest 34]

nursemolli said:

We NEVER use condoms. We both luv the feeling & taste of cum. I have a sixth sense and can tell when someone is not healthy. We don’t swing with drunks, druggies, smokers or heavily tattooed people. If a person obviously disregards their own health, we just pass on them. This has worked for us for 40 years.

 

Well speaking from a generation that likes its tattoos and piercings, I am glad to know that makes use undesirables. Sense that shows we disregard our own health, by doing this to our bodies.

 

I know several nurses and doctors with large amounts of tattoos and piercings, does that mean you do not let them work on you? I am not trying to be jerk I am just asking.

[slevin 1,374]

There are a number of girls I went to school with who are very attractive, take care of themselves, value their hygiene, dress well, have perfect teeth, perfect complexions, no tattoos or piercings......and all have herpes.

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

slevin said:

There are a number of girls I went to school with who are very attractive, take care of themselves, value their hygiene, dress well, have perfect teeth, perfect complexions, no tattoos or piercings......and all have herpes.

 

I appreciate the point you are making -- people who look respectable can none-the-less transmit an STD. But I have to bring up the small point that condoms offer very little protection from herpes.

[slevin 1,374]

SW_PA_Couple said:

I appreciate the point you are making -- people who look respectable can none-the-less transmit an STD. But I have to bring up the small point that condoms offer very little protection from herpes.

 

I wasn't trying to make a case for condoms. My point was rather aimed at the sixth sense

[ArousedInterest 34]

Mrs.ArousedInterest and is a healthcare professional. I hope she develops this 6th sense soon and makes our swinging safer.

[sweet_tna 680]

ArousedInterest said:

Well speaking from a generation that likes its tattoos and piercings, I am glad to know that makes use undesirables. Sense that shows we disregard our own health, by doing this to our bodies.

 

I know several nurses and doctors with large amounts of tattoos and piercings, does that mean you do not let them work on you? I am not trying to be jerk I am just asking.

 

I guess us "undesireables" will just have to keep to ourselves.

[dumbasarock10 49]

I'm pierced, tattooed, Have lots of casual sex, and get tested regularly. I'm clean. Oh, and I prefer condoms because I like not having illegitimate children with other men's wives. I know, what a weirdo I am. How do I live with myself? Hey Sweet TNA, here's to us undesirables.

[two4youinswva 3,068]

I always thought the sixth sense was "I see dead people". Of course, they're not that healthy either, so I guess this fits.

 

So, for those of us that don't have any sense (wait. what?), do you recommend we continue to use condoms?

 

SAMnTINA said:

We also prefer no condoms and feel that the protection they seem to offer gives some the idea that being selective in choosing their partners does not matter.

 

I can't recall one time in our swinging experiences that we've said "They don't look healthy, and could possibly be incubators for an STD, but since we have condoms, we'll go ahead and do them".

[bbarnsworth 2,637]

Well speaking from a generation that likes its tattoos and piercings, I am glad to know that makes use undesirables. Sense that shows we disregard our own health, by doing this to our bodies.

I know several nurses and doctors with large amounts of tattoos and piercings, does that mean you do not let them work on you? I am not trying to be jerk I am just asking.

 

My wife and I don't play with heavily tattoo'd/pierced singles/couples simply because we don't find it particularly attractive, in fact very much the opposite.

 

For my part, I find a woman's body a beautiful work of art. Stunning in presentation, elegant in movement, desirous in repose. Adding tattoos to a woman's body just ruins the image for me. It's like spray painting a portion of the Mona Lisa. Yes, it's still the same person underneath. Sorry, it still ruins it for me. Nothing to do with health at all...just effects on attraction. One or a few small tattoos, fine. Lots? Sorry.

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

The only tattooed woman with whom I will have sex are those also having tits, ass and are breathing.

[ArousedInterest 34]

SW_PA_Couple said:

The only tattooed woman with whom I will have sex are those also having tits, ass and are breathing.

 

I call that tattooed woman with tits, ass, and breathing my wife.

[maggoo 23]

This topic always gets them going.

 

At the end it's personal choice and how you want to live. A bit like common sense depends on who is speaking it and their intentions and agenda. By the time you eliminate your list there wouldn't be a lot on offering at times.

[sexylady1970 69]

We always use condoms and that is our personal choice. We won't play without them. We of course respect your decision, and if you feel comfortable with it, then of course it is your choice.

 

STD's many times have no outward symptoms, and we have read that something like 1 in 4 or 5 people in the United States does carry the herpes virus. Hepatitis has no outward symptoms either much of the time and we all know that an HIV+ person doesn't display symptoms until they are far along in the process.

 

To us, our choice is to not risk it, but we respect those that do. We are certain that we have played with couples that don't use them but with us unless they are going to use a condom, there is no penetrative play.

[prometheius 137]

To us, our choice is to not risk it, ... We are certain that we have played with couples that don't use them but with us unless they are going to use a condom, there is no penetrative play.

 

I would respectfully pose this question to you; When you say that there is no penetrative play without a condom, does that include oral play as well? Or do you insist on the use of dental dams as well:confused:

[N8ture Girl 318]

If my understanding is correct, many STD's can be transfered via oral sex as well as through intercourse, so unless a person is using some kind of oral protection and condoms then your not really protected. In my opinion the only protection a condom provides is for the prevention of pregnancy and thats not even a 100%, granted it might protect againts certian STD's to some degree, but I think many have a false sense of security when it comes to wearing a condom....

[CXXC 435]

Mrs. CXXC and I insist on the use of condoms for several reasons. Whatever the reality may be regarding their efficacy in the prevention of most STD’s, this placebo affect works to keep our minds centered upon the activities at hand and not the unseen dangers. Is this wise? It is not. Is this using commons sense? Again, it is not. The only true method of protection against STD’s, pregnancy, and various other fluid transfers is abstinence! This is called the "Swingers Lifestyle", not the "Don’t touchor kiss and Wish Lifestyle"!

 

Yes, condoms do aid greatly in the prevention of unwanted pregnancies. Yes, they, when oral activities are not engaged in, can aid in the prevention of the spread of most STD’s. Yes, they are more of a comfort factor than we realize. However, what is that amount of comfort worth to us all? The number STD’s and pregnancies that have been avoided by the use of condoms are far greater than the totals that have gotten through. If that were not the case, the numbers of “sick” individuals would be far greater than it is.

 

I am surgically safe yet I wear one to protect Mrs. CXXC from the potential harm that they may prevent. I do not elude myself into thinking that they are 100% secure. I also know the odds become favorable for the transfer of STD’s and such through oral and manual stimulation. I don’t use a dental dam. She does not always offer her oral services requiring a condom. This is a gateway for illness that we are comfortable with. We do however, require that our play partners wash their hands and use sanitizer before playing. Also, if they move to another woman and play, they must repeate the process of washing before playing with Mrs. CXXC. One penis is easier to cover than ten fingers. We try our best to break the chain of contamination!

 

We will probably continue to use condoms for the duration of our lifestyle involvement. I dare say that the biggest reason is to prevent unwanted pregnancy. The close, and illogical, second place reason would be for the comfort we get from using them in our self acknowledged denial of possibility!

[LFM2 1,482]

 

We will probably continue to use condoms for the duration of our lifestyle involvement. I dare say that the biggest reason is to prevent unwanted pregnancy. The close, and illogical, second place reason would be for the comfort we get from using them in our self acknowledged denial of possibility!

 

This is why we use condoms as well. I especially like reason #2!

[willyoats 324]

I never used a condom with any partner, nor was I asked to.

 

My wife started by asking all parners to use condoms, as pregnancy was a concern. She frequently had a yeast infection after having sex with a new partner. After a few years later she dropped that requirement but still had the yeast infections. She finally gave up swing altogether. More trouble than it was worth.

 

We know of no one, ever after asking club owners, who had clap, syph, HIV, or aids. We do know of clamydia, Trichomoniasis, herpes and HPV, all of which either were cured or never caused ongoing problems (for instance, only one minor outbreak of herpes and no other for 10 years). The risk is there, but slight compared to the benefits, provided one is quite careful about choosing partners.

[todesireu 16]

we are both health professionals and insist on condoms. just our preference for risk reduction.

[xxxboxy 139]

So what do you do to protect your scrotum?

[SheLovesTheSun 40]

I don't know, it just seems like a bad idea not to use condoms. Granted, they may not protect you from all risks, but at least they reduce the risks. Yes, it does come down to trust, but sometimes even someone you do trust can let you down.

 

That being said, I don't use condoms with my boyfriend, but we would insist on using one with other people.

[celtic239 297]

I had intercourse with a condom but never used one during oral. Without trying to sound facetious are flavored condoms preferred over regular ones for oral?

[RDfnd 180]

Seems that few use condoms for oral, (some to completion), even though they require them for intercourse.

[Meetussoon 68]

6th sense.....

"I see infected people."

 

We prefer bareback, fully aware of the risks.

[Guest BamaRide]

My position is that I don't like using a wrapper...simple enough... Condoms are nothing more than a means to mitigate risks. That said, it is not the ONLY way to mitigate risk. A much more important factor for doing this in my mind is the know who I'm fucking! For real! Let me put it to you like this... you are going to be intimate with someone in the room... on the left side are people you know...people you share a good amount of time with getting to know.... your knowledge of these people you can only have sex with bare back...on the right.. are people that you know nothing of... but they all have condoms and are more than willing to hook up using them...

 

Who are you more comfortable with?

 

I'll ride with the bare back gang... more pleasure... and I know what I'm getting into..literally!

[WonderWhat 166]

Well, assuming that the main concern about bareback play is AIDS, there's rapid tests with 20-30 minute wait times. It's somewhat pricey, but might be worth it.

 

Anyway, the sixth-sense thing doesn't really convince us: Would the couples here have sex with shiny, happy, sexy Hugh Grant? Remember that he was arrested because of a quickie curbside blowjob with a street prostitute? I really can't imagine an easier way of getting genital herpes.

 

Yes, we try to minimize risk, but no amount of sixth sense will be able to screen all the risk. It's a gamble we try to control with condoms, but, like crossing the street, it's a calculated risk.