Ideal penis size?

[Guest whammy2000]

There are lots of threads on here asking if penis size matters, but I didnt see any threads on WHAT penis size matters!

 

I once saw a survey of women who said that a penis that is 8x6 (inches) is idea. There were some sizes, on the graph, approaching, and bigger, then this size that said pleasurable but not ideal...not doing a ver good job of explaining here is a link to the graph. This was discouraging because 8x6 is huge...like pornstar huge!...like less then 1% of the population has penis this big huge!

 

My penis is just over 6 inches long and 5.5-5.75 inches in girth (depending on how turned on and hard I am) and is 2 inches wide...I have had women who didnt seem too impressed and some women who realy responded to it and thought it was big. I used to be self-conscience about the fact that I didnt have a giant penis because that's all you see in porn. And my penis doesnt look big on me, Im a big muscular guy (6'2, 235)

But now that I know I well above average in girth im cool. Only 5% of men have a girth as big or bigger then me...comdine that with the fact that I have to wear large size condoms and now I happy. I satified with my penis...I realize that most men out there would love to have my penis and Now I really dont think about it anymore, but im still curious.

 

What penis size is ideal for you, ladies?

what do you think of my penis size? (dont be afraid to hurt my feelings, becasue it wont...id just like to know)

[VanHlebar 187]

I think "most" guys at one point or another have this issue of am I big enough. I won't say all, because I know some realize or just don't care. I can confess that I used to worry a lot when MrsVan and I first got into the LS. I never worried that I wasn't good enough for her, but it sure did seem that I was usually on the "short end" of the stick in our encounters.

 

Then I did some research, and will admit to actually doing some measurments of my own. Well I don't worry so much anymore. I know that I am statistically speaking a little larger than average, but not huge. I know that I haven't had any complaints (not that I think most women would say so direclty anyways ) so I am ok with it.

 

I do think, just guessing here and going with what I have heard from MrsVan and other playmates, that they much prefer girth over length, in general. I have also learned very very long time ago, as in way back in High School, that no matter what, if you take care of your partner BEFORE intercourse, it really won't matter much how big or small you are, she is probably going to have a good time.

 

-Van

[pxjcp 15]

if you take care of your partner BEFORE intercourse, it really won't matter much how big or small you are, she is probably going to have a good time

I agree with that 100%..

[mixtupcpl 169]

Well who knows really. The question is pretty much beaten to death and I think 99% of guys worry about it (the 1% being the guys that are huge ) and women really dont help LOL

 

When it comes up in a situation like this, women will *almost* universally chime in with "doesnt matter", "other ways to satisfy", etc. But then once this type of topic is over, the "mystique" of the larger than average member seems to kick back in. I know of more than a few women who have fucked a guy PURELY because they heard he was "big". And Im talking guys that I am pretty much certain they would NOT bother with other wise. These are basically vanilla women also.

 

I suspect the reality is that most women probably could handle and/or want something larger than average, but the fact is that for whatever genetic reason, it really IS rare.

 

I have friends that are larger and while sure, there are women that claim they wouldnt want that full time, their experiences are pretty consistently women gaping in awe at what they have, saying "my god you are so huge" and pretty much going nuts.

 

But again, there isnt any surgery to fix it, so if you're of average endowment all you can really do is accept it and move on (and avoid women that have spent a lot of time with the 1% crowd )

 

I guess what I've come to learn in life is that yes, size matters, but thankfully most women will at least cut you some slack and make the best of what they get. If that isnt enough for you, there's always therapy

[Additude 457]

So...where do "we" get all these percentages and geographical references from?

 

I have heard people over the years say this and that, bigger and smaller, percentage of this and percentage of that, which race this and which race that...but for the life of me I have never seen any "facts" to any of it.

 

I've never seen a scientific "Ratio" chart of size to girth referenced to the percentage of the population, or even a scientific study that factualizes penis length....

 

I hear a lot of talk about it though....a lot of references to it though...but I've never seen any facts...

 

I once heard that the average male penis was 6" long and that the average female vagina could handle 9" of penis...which means that there are over 10,000 miles of un-used vagina in New York City alone... (joke)

[TheLorax 173]

Kinsey and Masters and Johnson both did studies with actual measurements.

 

Both had issues with statistical sampling, but still, they probably had a better sampling than most people, even people who've seen a lot of erect cocks up close and personal.

 

That's where those figures come from.

 

I'm average sized. Sometimes it bothers me, sometimes not. With one of my

partners it feels like I don't fill her much, with my other it often hits bottom and she complains it's too thick. Like most guys I used to obsess about it, now I only occasionally obsess about it. What helped me was when I started playing with them myself

 

Visually, sure, a really large cock looks neat. I'd like to play with one that was really, really huge just to see what it was like. But I know for a fact that *I* wouldn't want to play with one that large all the time. The largest I've played with was 9-10" and it was difficult to deal with. The smallest was 4" and while there were some things we couldn't do, it was kinda fun.

 

I will say that I *never* worried that much about it until my first wife, who I married at 18 (she 19) as a virgin (me) when we started playing, and her fairly experienced, talked a lot about how much she really enjoyed some former partner who had a really big cock, and her girlfriend's husband had a really big cock and how she was envious, and on and on. I was a poor lover at that age and she wasn't a good teacher, so it wasn't until I met my next lover who really taught me how to make love that I started feeling better about my abilities. One of my favorite authors writes about one of her characters who had just realized that the young woman he was about to play with (who was engineered to be a super soldier) was in insecure virgin:

"she could kill me with one hand, but I could kill her with a word." I took that to heart, and I try to *never* say something that could have that effect on someone else.

 

So, enjoy what ya got, enjoy who you play with, and if they aren't satisified with you, it's probably best to move on and find people who are.

[mixtupcpl 169]

writes about one of her characters who had just realized that the young woman he was about to play with (who was engineered to be a super soldier) was in insecure virgin:

"she could kill me with one hand, but I could kill her with a word." I took that to heart, and I try to *never* say something that could have that effect on someone else.

 

So, enjoy what ya got, enjoy who you play with, and if they aren't satisified with you, it's probably best to move on and find people who are.

 

Wait a minute... back up here a second. This is totally off topic, but it is just such a funny aside I cant pass it up.

 

Im reading along with you and its like "ok... got it... penis size... average can be psychologically tough on guys... right... some chicks are size queens... finding one before you know anything sucks... got it... ooooo... literary reference... cool!.... young couple playing... sounds good... she is engineered to be a super soldier... makes sense... wait a second!"

 

What author is this chronicalling the love lives of genetically engineered super soldiers? I dabble at writing myself and am a huge sci-fi junkie. I particularly love when an author can place outrageous characters and settings into an immediately acceptable and believable context. This isnt a series I recognize right off the bat but would love to check it out.

 

With regards (back on topic) to the unused vagina in NYC, that is hilarious as well I hear really varying things on the length of the vaginal canal, though, and I've never heard of 9". I think the average would be nowhere near that, and much more like 5-7" (thank god )

[TheLorax 173]

 

What author is this chronicalling the love lives of genetically engineered super soldiers? I dabble at writing myself and am a huge sci-fi junkie. I particularly love when an author can place outrageous characters and settings into an immediately acceptable and believable context. This isnt a series I recognize right off the bat but would love to check it out.

 

 

That would be one of my favorite authors, Lois McMaster Bujold from a scene in the short story "Labyrinth" part of "Borders of Infinity."

 

Miles is locked in Ryoval's basement with a teenage werewolf. No one said anything about this in his ImpMil training...

 

Bujold writes really good Military/Romance SF and has recently been writing Fantasy. She does a very good job at exploring sex and sexuality issues in her writing without making them the focus of the story or having them distract much from the central storyline.

 

She also has a keen insight into what motivates people and how interpersonal communications works and fails. I've learned a lot from her over the years and a lot of what I teach has origins in her works.

 

Yes, I read a lot. Curse or blessing depending on your perspective, since I can go through the average novel in 2-3 hours, it means I am often wanting for pleasure reading. Helps when I am reading for learning though.

 

With regards (back on topic) to the unused vagina in NYC, that is hilarious as well I hear really varying things on the length of the vaginal canal, though, and I've never heard of 9". I think the average would be nowhere near that, and much more like 5-7" (thank god )

 

The average vagina is about 4" in depth normally and lengthens to 6-9 inches upon arousal.

[Chicup 42]

The ideal penis size is the penis that gets used.

 

We spent the last couple mornings at a nude beach. I'm very 'average' and I fit right in and and other 'average' men were there with their wives too, all hanging out and being average. Sometimes I was hanging low (hot sun) other times I was playing 'Mr. Turtle' (water + cool wind).

 

While it would have been more fun to have had a elephantine trunk hanging out while we walked around to get more attention, I've never had a situation where a woman said 'oh sorry thats too small' or the like.

 

Worry about what you can fix and change, your physique, your hygiene, your look, and let the penis do its own thing.

[celtic239 297]

I am on the lower end of the average scale. The reason I would want a longer/larger penis is that I could do doggie style and DP without slipping out/being able to enter without throwing my back out.

[TheLorax 173]

Worry about what you can fix and change, your physique, your hygiene, your look, and let the penis do its own thing.

 

This is true wisdom. Regardless of gender.

[tribbles 490]

Too thick hurts and is not going to get to go in. I've met a couple of other females who agree. I've met a few who only look for thick.

 

Maybe it's really not 'one size fits all'

[Karmickiss 28]

Hi All,

I couldn't resist:D Maybe I'm one of those women who sounds unbelievable, or so I recall threads like this and was then generally surprised to hear so many say size really does matter. Also the conviction if a woman says otherwise, it's probably not total truth, of course, not everyone feels that way, but more than I thought, if I remember right.

Honestly, kind of the same way that I can go for either gender, depending on the person, it's the same way with chemistry and size. If one is secure in themselves, it is easily felt, for me, always a turn on. I think any stressing I ever did about size, was the guys close to me who truly might have agonized over it, and be hard to console, so to speak. Then it's b/c I'm pretty empathic and sensitive, that I might feel nervous for the person if it's a real problem.

For real, to me,if there's chemistry, everything is good, and desirable, as is, not some pre set idea about size. Actually, when I first started to have actual orgasms, it was in young marriage, and he was a little under average...I guess...but not by much, and only can say this, b/c that's how he described himself, I'd say "average-ish'. It had nothing to do with size, everything to do with being super comfortable with myself, finally, after having such a steady partner I really trusted on a friend level first. I had to really feel secure in my own body, as far as body issues, before I could enjoy someone else the way I can now. The orgasms were not better or worse than with other people, who had larger ones...it was me, really, finally letting go more.

OMG...I had this one experience, (actually a few, with one person) with a male friend of mine when we were both single...and...I can't even describe, but I told him half-jokingly he really should have "warned me". In this case there was actual good chemistry, but it took a bit for me to "get there" b/c initially, so painful. It was actually a bit of a drawback, b/c the desire to keep it going for more than one go, each time, was limited, due to soreness.

In both cases there was genuine chemistry, and adapted around things. I know it's not something that would ever make or break a natural, sincere, and fun connection. Best, karmic

[amid 91]

Gynecologist examing patient

 

"Wow you have a large vagina, wow you have a large vagina"

 

Patient

 

You didn't have to say it twice!!

 

Dr.

 

I didn't

 

after that intro.. there is an awful lot of talk about Penis size. What about vaginal canal size.. I've been with a few women that were "tight" and a few women that well let's say they were loose. I'd say I'm on the slightly above average size with girth.. so if I've come across loose vagina's where the stimulation wasn't as great I'm sure some of the average to lower than average guys have.. But I guess no one complains about a BIG pussy, can't see it from the outside!

 

Definition of Vagina, it's the Box that a Penis Cums in..

 

Just find a Box to fit your Penis.

[TheLorax 173]

Vaginal size can be adjusted to a large degree by exercises (kegals) and stretching. I dated a woman who had worked on it so much that I could fist her and then she could turn around and squeeze my cock so hard it was almost painful. Obviously not all women can have that much range, but there is a lot a woman can do if she wants to work on it.

 

While I can honestly say that most of the women in my life have been perfectly happy with my size, I can also say that there's been at least two who have negatively commented directly on it and a couple more who made comments along the lines of leading me to believe it wasn't enough for them, even though they were trying to be nice about it.

 

So it's hard to get over that kind of negative self image.

[it'sso 198]

If you've only had to listen to it three or four times, you probably are packing enough to suit 90 % of the available women who indulge in the lifestyle. If you hear it far more often, your only option is to grow a thicker skin since you sure as hell won't be growing anything else thicker.

[Sunswept 161]

I think it was William Faulkner that said:

"Everyone is happy, until they start thinking about how happy they really are."

 

So my phallic collorary to Faulkner's quip is that happiness is to be found in maximizing the time spent using one's penis -and minimizing the time spent measuring it.

[mixtupcpl 169]

This:

 

If you've only had to listen to it three or four times' date=' you probably are packing enough to suit 90 % of the available women who indulge in the lifestyle. If you hear it far more often, your only option is to grow a thicker skin since you sure as hell won't be growing anything else thicker.[/quote']

 

And this:

 

While I can honestly say that most of the women in my life have been perfectly happy with my size, I can also say that there's been at least two who have negatively commented directly on it and a couple more who made comments along the lines of leading me to believe it wasn't enough for them, even though they were trying to be nice about it.

 

So it's hard to get over that kind of negative self image.

 

Basically prove out that yes, size certainly does matter. I mean guys with 8", 9" and beyond never hear these things at all right? So I suppose there are times they have to deal with "oh my god, thats so big!" or "please take it easy, that thing is just TOO big!" Im sure thats got to be rough for them

 

And most women can manage to accomodate all but the true circus freaks, so I would think with some caution it all works out fine and everyone is happy in these situations. The most honest sounding feedback I see from many women on the topic is "well its the kind of thing where its amazing to indulge occasionally, but you wouldnt want that full time!" That kind of says it all and OF COURSE most guys reading this would prefer to be in the "amazing rarity" category .

 

But as has been said numerous times even in this thread, you cant do anything about it, so it really isnt good to obsess over it. We all do it of course (again, except for that top few percent), and sometimes its cathartic to bitch and moan, but the key is to not let yourself get too down on yourself over it and keep in mind that most of us are in the same boat (and just PRAY you never have the misfortune of running into a size queen with a cruelty streak )

[Karmickiss 28]

Hi All,

I thought amid's response was interesting. I recall learning some things about vaginal "size" in a human sexuality class...lol. The whole thing about kegals in my opinion, definately is a good tool to use if one is interested in exploring results with this.

I have of course, heard the old saying about "whores" are suposedly "loose" b/c they are being "stretched" regularly, thus, causing a looser vagina. If I remember right(time to pull out some saved literature to take a look). And even thinking that "tightness" then is sign of a "good girl". There's some interesting tied in things.

At the same time, if one is anxious, or even unconsciously has some issue, there can be unusual tightness(rare extreme would be vaginitis, IF I recall the term properly, it means vaginal 'freezing' that can be unpenetrable so clamped, or worse, getting "stuck" with some man's penis stuck insde, whatever the size, and have actually have to go get medical help to get apart!)...that would be there even for the smallest "piece". Or, if the woman is not adequately turned on...it could make one unusually "tight". I recall hearing that the more relaxed, and/or turned on a woman might be, the looser it may seem. Thus thinking about a person who might be very unshy and uninhibited of course, she can seem a little looser but of course, doesn't dictate as a rule for many varieties of reasons, and again, kegals are great for varying the control by will, if one wants to.

I feel like I learned somewhere that the average vagina actual size, is close to same in all women. The only thing that truly might "stretch out" a vagina would be childbirth. I read that no matter how much sex one has, it is not enough to actually "stretch it out"...that it always "bounces back" to original size, with many different factors as to how tight or loose one might be at any given time. Supposedly, IF childbirth stretched anything permanently, it was only by a very small degree...and then, again, kegals..

A bit over tired, so I hope that all came out right. I've always been conscious of those wonderful muscles before I heard about kegals...and been told I'm "tight"..lol..but there are so many other factors that could be attributed to this. Again,a little wiped out tonight, hope it all came out right. I so could be wrong on some of this, but at least it's interesting to think about and surely probably able to be researched, I'm going by memory, and thought it fair to put in a response to the "other side" of the equation when it was brought up. Wishing all the best tonight!!Warmly, karmic

[realcplub2 513]

 

What author is this chronicalling the love lives of genetically engineered super soldiers? I dabble at writing myself and am a huge sci-fi junkie. I particularly love when an author can place outrageous characters and settings into an immediately acceptable and believable context. This isnt a series I recognize right off the bat but would love to check it out.

 

Umm.. Joe Simon/John Romita/Stan Lee .. Captain America... Jerry Seigel/Joe Shuster ... Superman..

 

Ok, enough comedy...

 

While EVERY man thinks having a 8, 9, 10, 12 inch cock is the IDEAL situation, and would gladly take the UPGRADE.. reality is, some women CANNOT accomadate, or even ATTEMPT such severe sizes.

 

Now pay attention... immedately after reading mentally fold and place in the back pocket of your BRAIN..

 

Its not the size of the wand but the MAGIC you do with it

 

There are guys out there, that the size of their cock is what they THINK makes them appealing..

 

there are more weapons than just the main cannon to bring to bear before winning the battle of the female orgasm.. or satisfaction