exploringRM 305 Posted January 2, 2010 I was curious how many here that are full swap started as soft? Though it's not a scientific study it just seems to me that I'm seeing more and more tame/moderate couples on Swing Lifestyle. And I'm not knocking your preference, it's just another attribute to make sure we match on. I'm wondering if these people are testing the waters...will remain soft..will move on to hard..or just husbands wishing upon wishing their wife will say yes Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr. Truelove 81 Posted January 2, 2010 I was curious how many here that are full swap started as soft? Though it's not a scientific study it just seems to me that I'm seeing more and more tame/moderate couples on Swing Lifestyle. And I'm not knocking your preference, it's just another attribute to make sure we match on. I'm wondering if these people are testing the waters...will remain soft..will move on to hard..or just husbands wishing upon wishing their wife will say yes We started as full then kinda moved to soft swap. But not by our choice. Lately most couples we have met have just ended up being soft swap, and that is mainly the couples that are interested in girl girl play too. We are still looking for the elusive couple that we enjoy playing (all four of us) on a somewhat regular basis. Quote Share this post Link to post
PB&J 1,086 Posted January 2, 2010 We started full, and have stayed full. Had a couple of soft swap experiences but it's just not our preference. Quote Share this post Link to post
Learning 160 Posted January 2, 2010 We are a soft swap couple and there is no desire to move further than that. It's just not our preference. Quote Share this post Link to post
SW_PA_Couple 4,026 Posted January 2, 2010 JoAnn and I jumped in heads first. We actually bypassed an offer from an appealing couple who invited us to their house for a home-cooked meal and to watch them have sex. We just seemed to sense right from the start that that would fall short of what we really wanted. But maybe that's just us -- impulsive. ~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post
exploringRM 305 Posted January 2, 2010 We started as full then kinda moved to soft swap. But not by our choice. Lately most couples we have met have just ended up being soft swap, and that is mainly the couples that are interested in girl girl play too. We are still looking for the elusive couple that we enjoy playing (all four of us) on a somewhat regular basis. I guess I forgot about the girl-girl aspect. And I guess we might be in the minority as my wife is here for the guys! She does enjoy some play with the girls..but that's not our thing. Quote Share this post Link to post
exploringRM 305 Posted January 2, 2010 JoAnn and I jumped in heads first. We actually bypassed an offer from an appealing couple who invited us to their house for a home-cooked meal and to watch them have sex. We just seemed to sense right from the start that that would fall short of what we really wanted. But maybe that's just us -- impulsive. ~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post
Chris&Suzanne 204 Posted January 6, 2010 We consider ourselves soft-swap, but if the other couple is to our liking, and us to theirs then we go all the way. It just depends. Quote Share this post Link to post
CXXC 435 Posted January 6, 2010 We are odd in that we started out playing solo first then moved to couple/couple play. Our very first couple was soft swap. It would have been more had Mrs. CXXC and I discussed the particulars in advance. However, we have decide that soft swap is not for us. I will say, if Mrs. CXXC were to receive an invitation for a nice meal and to watch antoher couple have sex, I can't say that she would turn it down. Naturally, I would be with her. Hey! Free food!!!!! And someone else to do the dishes!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post
FitCpl30s 17 Posted January 7, 2010 We started as full swap and have stayed full, we tried soft swap but never really enjoyed it, what's the point of some guy getting me all hot and bothered then having to stop and wait for my husband to get get all hot and bothered before we can finally do it. Hey to each there own! all we ask is that you let us know upfront that you only do soft swap. Quote Share this post Link to post
bbarnsworth 2,652 Posted January 7, 2010 We are still looking for the elusive couple that we enjoy playing (all four of us) on a somewhat regular basis. Same here! We would LOVE to have a regular couple, and still maintain hope that someday we'll find that one great couple where we all click all the way around, and have lots of fun, etc. It's elusive. ...and you're three hours away Damn. -- We started soft swap. For us, it was a great introduction and testing of the waters so to speak. It worked out very well, and we played with that couple twice. The wife of the couple had never had sex with anyone else, and was unsure if she ever wanted to. That was fine with us. Great, great couple and we had a lot of fun with them. We're amenable to soft swapping, and as others have posted in other threads there can be a lot of rewards in soft swapping to sometimes make the experience better than if you'd full swapped. It's all part of the spectrum, all part of the fun. Now, same room no swap? I dunno. We really, really enjoy helping other people, swinging or otherwise, so we're happy to meet with newbies and give them a hand in understanding the lifestyle. We've never done a same room, no swapping, but though I don't think we'd say no, I doubt it would be our favorite thing. Quote Share this post Link to post
Spoomonkey 421 Posted January 7, 2010 We were soft swap for about ten minutes. We've had experiences where we played soft, but they really don't do much for us. I wouldn't be against it at all with the right couple, but it would have to be one of "lightening strikes" moments as we routinely send a polite decline to inquiries from soft swap couples. Spoomonkey Quote Share this post Link to post
good times 991 Posted January 7, 2010 We started out full swap and haven't looked back. As others have noted, their are a lot of soft swap couples now days, but it really doesn't do anything for us. Still seems to me like going to the amusement park but not being allowed to ride the rides. Quote Share this post Link to post
lardub 170 Posted January 7, 2010 We started out soft swap, watch and be watched, then progressed to oral. We now do full swap but not on first playdate gotta hold something back, we really enjoy long sessions of foreplay and the suduction, dirty dancing is always fun. Besides who wants to just dive in sex is so much more than intercourse. We enjoy the build up to full swap when its not rushed into.. Quote Share this post Link to post
NCfuncouple98 367 Posted January 7, 2010 We started out full. No intentions to change that! Quote Share this post Link to post
SW_PA_Couple 4,026 Posted January 8, 2010 Soft swap? I'll draw an analogy. While in the Los Angeles area November of last year, we spotted the Tesla showroom and decided to drop in. They let me sit in the driver's seat but would not let me take a test drive. I had a feeling like I would have to go into the rest room and jerk myself off to relieve the built-up tension. I'd be crazed if an attractive woman invited me to touch her Cointhian leather seat but would not let me drive her fast on the freeway. Quote Share this post Link to post
WildFire 19 Posted January 8, 2010 We thought we were going to start soft swap, but things went really well and we just clicked with one of our first couples. So yes, we prefer full swap, and I am also Bi, I was Bi-curious at the time we started. We have had soft swap only nights out with other couples that we really have enjoyed too, but ultimately we both would like to the end the night with a full-swap. We have one of those elusive couples that we enjoy playing (all four of us) and sometimes just 3 of us:kissface: on a regular basis. They are hard to find, but lots of fun Mrs. Wildfire Quote Share this post Link to post
NealnAnji 30 Posted January 8, 2010 Strange as it may sound, we were introduced to the concept of swinging with a full-swap of partners between two married couples (husband-wife). The gf of wife (Susy) talked us into swapping mates for play and then full intercourse. Her hubby played with wife2, ate her pussy, sank his dick into her pussy and fucked her to orgasm while Susy played with hubby2 (me) and the two of us we fucked until I dumped my load into her hot pussy. We have played with some couples and done some soft swinging since them, as we did all sexual activities with the other's mate but short of interaction of cock and her pussy short intercourse. Quote Share this post Link to post
LFM2 1,482 Posted January 8, 2010 We started out as full and stayed that way. We both decided early on that soft swapping was not in our blood. I also don't want to touch anyone's Corinthian leather and not be able to take it for a spin. Quote Share this post Link to post
Adam-n-Eve 223 Posted January 11, 2010 We did the watch/be watched thing for a while, then straight to full-swap. We won't really do soft anymore. To each their own, but soft-swapping to us just doesn't make sense. You're not free to go where your passions take you. Not to judge others, but after being with two soft-swappers and one non-kissing couple, we stopped playing with them. The soft-swappers we've been with were a little hesitant and seemed not to entirely trust each other. That's also why we won't play with a couple that withholds kissing anymore. It's almost a red flag to us; a trust issue. We know that's not all soft-swappers and non-kissers, but that was our experience. My biggest concern is having to keep these limits in mind the whole time. It's almost seems like they need to keep their partner from being able to give in to the whole experience so that they can't find it as pleasurable, thereby ensuring that they won't like it more. And, if they don't like it more, they won't run off with that other person. Again, I'm sure not all soft-swappers are like that, but it's not for us in any case. As Eve said when we first started, who wants to stop when you're all worked up to find your partner, make sure all four of you are on the same page, switch back to your spouse, and then have sex? Just let nature take its course. The first time we did it with soft-swappers I just felt like something major was missing. It really made me want to fuck her even more afterwards, but since I'll never get to, that's a bad thing. Quote Share this post Link to post
exploringRM 305 Posted January 11, 2010 I guess to add our own story, we are full swap, been that was since we started though we did same room sex the first two times to a swing club..mainly cause we were wound up; didn't meet anyone but wanted to play in that environment. We primarily play with full swap couples. We have a set of pretty close friends in the lifestyle that are soft swap and we have played with them. It's been a very enjoyable time with them, though the full swap aspect is a little missed. But the large part of our enjoyment with this couple is the friendship, along with the few bennies! The flirtying, touching, it's fun. But without the social/friendship interaction the soft swap would be lost on us. I don't think we would meet a couple that were soft swap only..perhaps playing at a house party would be fine..but not for a "couples date" sort of night. When searching online, that is one of the first items I look at, are they soft or full swap. Quote Share this post Link to post
ALilOEverything 901 Posted January 11, 2010 We started off open to full swap but game for whatever happened. We are seven months out and we are still at the same place. What I've found whether it turns out soft or full has no bearing on whether or not it was a good experience. Some of our soft swap experiences have been awesome where some of our full swap experience have been less than desirable and vice versa. I do prefer couples that are full swap because we enjoy knowing there is always that chance if the spark is there. Quote Share this post Link to post
mikeandjenn2001 77 Posted January 16, 2010 We started more as a voyeur/exhibitionist and moved on to soft swap, then eventually to full swap. We had to go slow because of a bad experience that we had when first starting out. There was a couple that we met for the voyeur/exhibitionist part and they tried to force themselves on Jen. That didn't go over so well with either of us. But we pressed on and met a lot of nice people and eventually met a couple that was willing to be patient with us. Quote Share this post Link to post
starryeyes 23 Posted January 16, 2010 When we put out toe in to test the water, we weren't sure. The evening ended up being full swap and like others.... we haven't looked back. Quote Share this post Link to post