Rumors of Swinging at an IN Nudist Resort

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

Really?! How shocking!

 

Swingers Campground Posting Riles County, Neighbors - Indiana News Story

 

So evidently something about a one day event at this place was posted on SOME swinger site... but by the time the news folks got there it was gone....things that make ya go HMM...

[bbarnsworth 2,640]

This is Martinsville we're talking about. Those of you who know, know. I unfortunately know. Or maybe fortunately. At any rate...

 

A rather large segment of the town's population are religious fundamentalists. Their views are, to say the least, extreme. Over the years, there's been many stories in the press about racist incidents happening in and around the town. The hatred of gays and lesbians is rampant.

 

Sample: During a 1998 Martinsville, Ind., high school basketball game, fans of the all-White home team verbally harassed visiting Black players

 

I loved the owner's comment that he was going to list the campground with "GLAD and the Gay Lesbian Coalition of America". That played right into the absolute worst fears of a large number of people in that town. It should be fun watching the fireworks on this one. I hope the guy has some money to fight the legal battles.

 

Not surprisingly, about 1% of the town's population is registered on swinglifestyle.com. If the townspeople knew, I'd buy tickets to watch the fireworks.

[LikeMinds321 1,527]

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Owner Sandy Partlow last month petitioned her property to be zoned as a campground. That was the result of a complaint sent to Morgan County officials and local media about adult parties taking place at the property - advertised on a swingers website - and charging admission.

 

In response, the Morgan County Planning Office sent a notice to the owners to stop running a business called "Oasis of Chetwynd" until they got zoning approval. The planning director told Eyewitness News to run an adult business, they would need a different kind of zoning and they haven't filed that yet.

 

Although one of the advertisements sent with the complaint describes it as a "clothing optional campground," Partlow gave a different story to a local newspaper.

I am not too sympathetic.

 

If you advertise on the net and ask for money for a service you provide, you're going into business and letting the world know about it. The first thing Sandy Partlow should have done was get her business set up and in order; acquire the zoning, apply for a business permit, and take it from there.

 

The chances are high that opposition would come from setting up a business like this. The comments from people who don't want her operating are to be expected.

 

When I read articles like this I'm not frustrated with the neighbor's comments, I'm frustrated reading another story in the news about a swinger who doesn't have the common sense to go about starting a business like a smart business person would.

[xxxboxy 139]

I get frustrated and saddened by both.

[justinandtricia 23]

I just wonder exactly what kind of zoning that an on-premise club would fall under. Its not bar(even though theres liquor there, its not being sold but brought by individuals so no liquor license is required) Its not a strip club(nobody is getting paid to bare their ass), I mean the only thing they could really zone if for is maybe a dance club, or night club.

 

I guess the U.S. zoning commission needs to go back and think up a new zoning law targeted to on-premise swinger clubs.

[two4youinswva 3,068]

When I read articles like this I'm not frustrated with the neighbor's comments, I'm frustrated reading another story in the news about a swinger who doesn't have the common sense to go about starting a business like a smart business person would.

 

I agree. If folks that wanted to open any type of swinging establishment would spend a few minutes reading the Swingers in the News stories we link on here, they would know that the first thing they should do is get a lawyer, then do every single thing by the book. It doesn't mean the Gladys Kravitz folks of the community won't come after them, but it does make it harder for them to shut you down.

[justinandtricia 23]

xxxboxy said:

First comment on the site is playing the "think of the children" card. I'm so tired of that being used as the ultimate reason for everything.

 

Isn't that what we are doing by making places like this, that way the kids dont come home early from the movies and find mommy and daddy with another man and woman doing things that the kids shouldn't see?

[xxxboxy 139]

justinandtricia said:

Isn't that what we are doing by making places like this, that way the kids dont come home early from the movies and find mommy and daddy with another man and woman doing things that the kids shouldn't see?

 

No. I don't want my kids coming home from the movies and seeing me and the Mrs. doing things that the kids shouldn't see regardless. Creating a swingers club or camp ground or what ever you want to call it is about concentration of individuals with similar interests.

[bbarnsworth 2,640]

Billing itself as a "Gay Community Camp".

 

Chance of success in Martinsville? Maybe in an alternate universe.

[Marcusnrose 15]

If this place is on a 20 acres and has buildings where people play inside they should be left alone.

 

Playing outside at night is also fine. What does the surrounding community have , night vision goggles. People that are trespassing on private property to sneak a peak should be arrested as peeping toms.

 

Don't bother the adults that are just enjoying life's given pleasures.

 

The place Needs proper fencing to keep the curious children out.

 

However, have you read what kids do today? Oral sex is not sex, but rather friends with benefits.

 

By 1970 standards, today's teens are swingers

[justinandtricia 23]

Sexual oppression is invading someones privacy. How else would those not in the lifestyle know what goes on within the lifestyle, they are sitting at the front windows of their condos in their retirement villages with a pair of binoculars spying on us. And they call us perverts.

[DarkVoyuer 15]

I agree. If folks that wanted to open any type of swinging establishment would spend a few minutes reading the Swingers in the News stories we link on here, they would know that the first thing they should do is get a lawyer, then do every single thing by the book. It doesn't mean the Gladys Kravitz folks of the community won't come after them, but it does make it harder for them to shut you down.

 

Do you think these are mostly conservative Christians behind this opposition?

[DarkVoyuer 15]

Sexual oppression is invading someones privacy. How else would those not in the lifestyle know what goes on within the lifestyle, they are sitting at the front windows of their condos in their retirement villages with a pair of binoculars spying on us. And they call us perverts.

 

It seems to me that the negative stereotypes of swingers is strongly influencing this opposition.

[two4youinswva 3,068]

Do you think these are mostly conservative Christians behind this opposition?

 

Why do you ask? Was Gladys Kravitz a conservative Christian?

[DarkVoyuer 15]

Why do you ask? Was Gladys Kravitz a conservative Christian?

I ask because I truly suspect this group is a community based group that has secular and religious people. I ask you the question because I am trying to evaluate whether my perception of mainstream hostility towards many alternative lifestyles may be paraniod. Many members have told me that most of this crap is started by religious wackos.

 

I have really have no idea who this opposition group is but my prejudice says they are people who are from the mainstream which includes a few religious nuts. In other words, they are regular people with various beliefs. It is ironic that I am saying this because in the past I blamed the hostility towards all alternative lifestyles on only religious fundamentalism. Fifteen years ago you would not find any guy who was more indignant of the idea of Christian fundamentalism than myself. I guess I have mellowed out.

[two4youinswva 3,068]

In this case (as with many others) it doesn't matter.

 

They could worship Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I know. The bottom line is the proprietor went about setting the club up the wrong way.

Do it wrong, and someone will get you, religious or secular.

[AskMeOk 148]

In this case (as with many others) it doesn't matter.

They could worship Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I know. The bottom line is the proprietor went about setting the club up the wrong way.

Do it wrong, and someone will get you, religious or secular.

 

Maybe, but if that is what the neighbors want and I owned the property, I'd be sure they got what they wanted. Since it is apparently zoned agricultural, I would raise hogs, peacocks, and guinea hens.

 

Take *them* faith based values, Bubba....

[Coupleerotic22 1,419]

I ask because I truly suspect this group is a community based group that has secular and religious people. I ask you the question because I am trying to evaluate whether my perception of mainstream hostility towards many alternative lifestyles may be paraniod. Many members have told me that most of this crap is started by religious wackos.

 

The question kind of stereotypical on a number of fronts there. We are conservative and Christian AND swingers. And I don't feel like the odd man out with many I meet. Swingers truly come from all walks of life.

 

So I guess it goes without saying I do not equate conservative Christian and religious wacko.

 

I might have an issue with this group for a number of reasons that had nothing to do with swinging. As a business owner, people throwing up business and doing so without following the laws always piss me off. As would someone building any type business next to my home that might negatively impact my property value. For that matter, building a business that required a level of traffic next to my home.

 

I am not saying that the people interviewed are not religious nuts and that is where they are coming from. I am just saying there are plenty of reasons to have problems with this.

[justinandtricia 23]

Like I said. prudes. I mean c'mon, this kind of crap can be expected in the only state in the union that you still can't buy alcohol on Sundays.

 

It is just all the old people clinging to beliefs that will soon be forgotten. To be honest, the shit I did in college at parties makes on-premise clubs look like a Disney movie. And the funny thing is that all the crazy stuff that goes on is being done by these narrow-minded old people's grandchildren that they are trying to protect from these kinds of things.

[bbarnsworth 2,640]

justinandtricia said:

Like I said. prudes. I mean c'mon, this kind of crap can be expected in the only state in the union that you still can't buy alcohol on Sundays.

 

Mmm, not correct. There's a patchwork of blue laws across the country, and a number of states still have blue laws on the books that aren't much different than Indiana's.

 

justinandtricia said:

It is just all the old people clinging to beliefs that will soon be forgotten. To be honest, the shit I did in college at parties makes on-premise clubs look like a Disney movie. And the funny thing is that all the crazy stuff that goes on is being done by these narrow-minded old people's grandchildren that they are trying to protect from these kinds of things.

 

Agreed. The idea of 'protection' is ephemeral at best. I cringe when I see people attempting to 'protect' their children from the horrors of society. The reality is those children are going to have to function in society, and forcibly burying their heads in the sand isn't helping them. I strive to educate my children rather than protect them. Ultimately, I can't protect them. I can help provide them with tools to manage their interactions with society though.

 

The outcome of this case was a given from the beginning. Nevermind that the person trying to set up the camp went about it in the wrong way; plenty enough problems there. But, the owner's appraisal of the likelihood of the community's acceptance of this camp was either (a) so wrong as to defy description or (b) intentional; doing something they knew would never be accepted for reasons other than the intention of opening a camp.

 

Martinsville would never, ever have accepted this camp. Meanwhile, just 30 miles south, there's an operating AANR nudist camp (link) that has been operating for more than 40 years. There's a dramatic difference between Martinsville and Bloomington. Opening a camp such as this in Martinsville, as a business owner, is akin to attempting to open a Taco Bell on top of Mt. Everest.