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My husband and I just established with a new doctor. I really like her, she seems very nice and easy to talk to. This is a good thing right?

 

I am going back in next week for a well woman check. It's just my yearly and I am having no problems. I do want her to check me for everything (again not having problems but would like to have that peace of mind) though but I am not really sure how to ask. My plan is to just say "Since we are already doing a Pap can you just check me for everything else too". My fear is that she will ask questions why since she knows I am married.

 

What should I say if she asks me why? Any ideas? I'd rather not say I think hubby is cheating but I ALSO don't want to tell her I'm a swinger either!

 

HELP!

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As many here have found. The Truth will set you free!

 

Do you take your care to the auto shop and not tell them what is wrong?

 

How can a doctor check you for things she has no idea what to look for?

 

If you are not comfortable enough with your doctor tell them the truth then maybe you need to find a new doctor.

 

Your health is not something to play games with.

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As a physician.....Just ask. If you don't want to tell the reasons why you are concerned, then you can say to him or her the following:

 

"You know, perhaps I am might be a bit obsessive, but I think I want to know these things and since I am here we might as well do it. I know I will sleep better at night"

 

As a side note, I just went in for MY YEARLY PHYSICAL, I asked my private physician for some what would be considered "off the wall" tests for a routine exam. He did them without question.

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I wouldn't say I'm uncomfortable with my doctor. I like her, just established with her as I stated in my first post. I don't make it a point to go around telling vanilla people about my lifestyle. I obviously do NOT want to play around with my health since I AM going to ask to be tested for everything. I was just seeking advice on how to ask without having to reveal I am a swinger. I trust my parents and friends but that does not mean I would be comfortable telling all of them about my lifestyle either.

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I would rather do it with my Dr. I am sure a health clinic will do it also.

 

Like VegasLee said, "the truth will set you free".

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I have told the primary-care physician more than once what kind of activities I was into and asked if there were any actions that should be taken. He recommended no tests unless symptom were evident and asked a few questions about symptoms. Each time he gives me condoms enough to supply the Russian army and on my way out says, "Be careful." When JoAnn told the gynecologist what she was up to, the gynecologist was horrified but basically did the same thing -- asked if there were any symptoms and set her home with a (discreetly disguised) bag of condoms, no extra tests being recommended.

 

~Michael

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I think it's important to let your doctor know. I told my ob/gyn about my lifestyle (ok, I did play it down) just so she may be more attuned to certain things. I can understand the fear of doc being judgmental, but hopefully they are taught not to do that. And I believe in their experience, they have seen and heard much worse.

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You have to remember the Dr.s work for you. They are not doing you favors, you are paying them to perform a service to your requests. You are paying for their training and eduction to provide you with the best possible answer and treatment.

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ClosetSwinger said:
My husband and I just established with a new doctor. I really like her, she seems very nice and easy to talk to. This is a good thing right?

Congratulations CS, you have already established one of the most difficult things to find for us. You see, Mrsfun has a phobia toward doctors or anyone in the medical profession. Not just the people but the places as well. You can't imagine what a dentist appointment could be like, you really can't..... But I digress, although I can say without a doubt I could understand your fears, without making light of them. Small hurdles can be very big challenges to some....

 

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I am going back in next week for a well woman check. It's just my yearly and I am having no problems. I do want her to check me for everything (again not having problems but would like to have that peace of mind) though but I am not really sure how to ask. My plan is to just say "Since we are already doing a Pap can you just check me for everything else too". My fear is that she will ask questions why since she knows I am married.

 

What should I say if she asks me why? Any ideas? I'd rather not say I think hubby is cheating but I ALSO don't want to tell her I'm a swinger either!

Is there a chance since you mentioned "My husband and I established" you could ask him to do the talking ? Will this be a GP for the both of you, or a gynecologist for you only ? I'm not clear on that.... :rolleyes:

 

You don't have to explain the Whys as to your needs in full detail, and as a man who has good report with all of our medical personnel, I can say there will be no interrogation. Many doctors in this economy are just like mechanics, they don't want to give you reason to go elsewhere, they want you to stay with them.....

 

One of you needs to come forth with your inquiry or live in wonder until you do, and yes, you BOTH need to be checked ! Is it possible for either of you to speak on the phone before the actual exam ? That might relieve much of the tension in asking for a complete STD screening. Your new doctor will probably just schedule a time for you be at a lab for your blood work and nothing more will be said, until you return for your follow-up.

 

Believe me when I say, I'm not making light of your situation.... We can and do understand.... Try that phone call first, tell them you want a full STD screening to ease your mind in this day and times and your uncomfortable asking..... try it today, and I'll bet you feel better. Deal ? :cool:

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Thanks for all the advice, I appreciate it and you all have really calmed my fears about this. My doctor SHOULD work for ME and I am probably thinking about it too much. I know two other women that see her that have gone in with some crazy stories (one is a swinger and she TOLD the doc, the other thought she had herpes) so I am sure that what I say is not going to shock her. I think I am just more worried about what she will think of me. This is a GP btw. There is such a negative stigma attached to swingers and I hate that.

 

Hopefully she will just do the testing and not ask too many questions, if she does, I'll give short and sweet but honest answers. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Here's a thought....donate blood. They screen for EVERYTHING and, if something comes up, you get a letter. Now, I have never donated myself (big baby here), but my husband does at least once a year. I heard on the news after 9/11 & Katrina (basically after any major disaster) people flock to donate. Sadly, lots of blood is rejected and the donor gets a letter in the mail explaining why. IMO, you'd kill two birds here. Donating blood (a precious gift!)...and..."no news is good news". Food for thought. :)

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Here's a thought....donate blood.

 

Swingers might not be too popular as blood donors, unless you don't tell them that you are in the habit of having multiple sex partners.

 

We finally told our doctor- or PB did, on his last visit a few weeks ago- he didn't even raise an eyebrow, asked the condom question, and that was that. We've been getting our STD testing done at a free clinic in the nearest city, and will probably actually keep that up.

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Blood donors are tested for Hep B&C, Syphilis and HIV. So not everything, just the really bad STD's. Chlamydia, gonorrhea and HPV are not screened for when you donate blood. Your best bet is to talk to your doctor or go to a clinic and tell them your history. They will help you decide what tests to have done.

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Thanks for starting this thread. This is a subject that we believe many in the lifestyle will be interested in.

 

Good luck and let us know how it goes at the doctor when you ask for the tests.

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Me: Hey doc, I would like you to run a full STD screening.

Doc: Ok, no problem. Anything specific we need to be looking for?

Me: Nope, just taking precautions.

Doc: That is smart, your results should be back in a few days. By the way, prevention is the best cure.

Me: Got it doc, thanks!

 

This is how it has gone for me. They have already asked about drug usage on the questionnaire I filled out and he can see I have no markings of drug use. He knows my medical history. He doesn't need to ask too many questions, they can assume much an know what else to look for too. So they can assume it means I have more than one sex partner.

 

Some docs may ask a few more questions, like verifying you are not into recreational drug use. Or asking you if you understand the dangers of unprotected sex. They are very good at being discreet and understanding why you ask certain things. If they need to know more they will ask and you should tell them as much they need to know. They might want to know if you have multiple sex partners, they don't need to know it is by way a gang bang or even swinging for that matter.

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I don't know if this helps the situation, and I didn't want to add fear to the factor.

 

But is it just us :rolleyes:, because we know a heck of a lot of medical professionals, that like to get naked. :hahaha:

 

I'm just sayin'...

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I don't know if this helps the situation, and I didn't want to add fear to the factor.

 

But is it just us :rolleyes:, because we know a heck of a lot of medical professionals, that like to get naked. :hahaha:

 

Actually, it brings a certain level of relief to me. They know the medical consequences better than most, so if they are willing, the I figure I am ok, as long as I take precautions. Maybe it is a false sense of relief, but it is there none the less.

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So I had my appointment and my doctor was great. I just casually said since I'm here could you check me for everything.....you know for peace of mind? She said sure and didn't ask further questions! I wasn't concerned that I had anything as I am not having any problems but I do like having the peace of mind. Now had she asked me questions I was going to just say that hubby and I have some friends with benefits at times. I doubt she would have questioned me beyond that.

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Glad to hear it worked out as easily as it did. I think most Doctors would respond the same as yours. Ms JM used to go to a Doctor who was always trying to get her to go to the church the Doctor attended. Not sure she would have taken the request very well. :nono: Slightly off topic, I have always been concerned about my insurance company knowing I was being tested for STDs. I have gone to a doc in the box and paid cash rather than use insurance. Any of you know whether or not the coding on the blood tests indicates it is for an STD? Should I have any concern about my health insurance company knowing I am being tested for STD?

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I would not be concerned about your insurance. STD testing can be required in many instances not related to promiscuity or other high risk behavior. For example, when we adopted we were required to be tested for HIV as part of the adoption application.

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Do not use the blood supply as your test media-- BAD, BAD, BAD idea. What if they miss something and you infect someone ? If you can have sex with other people you have to be grown up enough to get tested. I'm a biochemist and you simply do not do this.

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I went for my yearly pap and was seen by the Physician's Assistant rather than the regular doc and was hoping I could ask for std testing and fly under the radar. First she asked me if I've had multiple sex partners, I confirmed yes and then she asked why I would do that since I indicated in my history that I'm in a relationship. She also asked if we were happy. I'm sure my face was beet red as I had to explain that we were both happy with the arrangement of my multiple sex partners :- l . She didn't appear to approve, But... I got to get my full spectrum testing and all was right with the world. Good thing for privacy laws as this is the same ob-gyn office my mother uses!

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Do not use the blood supply as your test media-- BAD, BAD, BAD idea. What if they miss something and you infect someone ? If you can have sex with other people you have to be grown up enough to get tested. I'm a biochemist and you simply do not do this.

 

While I agree with you that it's probably not the best route to go, it's FRIGHTENING that something could be "missed" in that arena. I guess NOTHING is full proof though.

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Do not use the blood supply as your test media-- BAD, BAD, BAD idea. What if they miss something and you infect someone ? If you can have sex with other people you have to be grown up enough to get tested. I'm a biochemist and you simply do not do this.

 

Yeah, my understanding was that blood testing is not conducted on all donations but, rather, on a random basis. I don't know how accurate that is, but I would just nut up and get the tests done - which it sounds like you already have.

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Oh...if you donate...it is tested. I only offered it as another option to anyone terrified of talking to their doc plus the additional benefit of donating blood. But, know this, lab tests your doc orders can, and are, flawed too. But, to each his own. I had a full screen ran on me by my doc and the lab up and lost all of it. Now...it made me wonder...how accurate are the labs??

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Consider that back in the early 80's, before HIV was even known to exist, it entered the blood supply when unknowingly infected people donated blood. You can't screen for something that isn't yet identified, and you cannot deny that even with condoms, we do indulge in a higher-risk behaviour that the average blood donation clinic is not going to be too thrilled about. If you want to get tested, and really can't face your doctor, go to an anonymous clinic. I know we have them in Canada because that's what we've been doing.

 

"To each his own."

The action of donating blood could have a serious impact on someone who receives the blood. In that case, it's not all about the person who can't bring themselves to ask for tests.

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From a physician and scientist...

 

1. Getting tested is a logical part of managing risk.

 

2. As mentioned by so many posters, your health care provider is legally obligated to maintain your confidence. As a health care provider, there is little you can tell me that will surprise me. I have seen/heard of it before caring for someone else. I cannot help advise if I do not know. So spill.

 

3. Insurance companies have little interest in whether (much less why) a test is performed that is in the realm of screening. Where they get interested is when they are on the hook for money. So if a test comes back (for example) HIV positive, they are most interested in managing the costs.

 

4. Edison Carter is correct. There is no test that guarantees safety. A test is part of risk management, but by itself does not constitute risk management. Choosing partners thoughtfully, using condoms, and so on are all part of the management strategy. Caveat swinger.

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Well, for us (my wife is a nurse, and worked in our local clinic for a few years), we decided that we didn't want to get tested in our local clinic, just to limit the chances of someone finding out locally about our lifestyle. Yes we know about privacy and all the regs, but still, rumors happen.

 

So, since we live by a big metro area, we went to the county health clinic. Which works out rather well. It's vastly cheaper for testing, they do it all day long so they have it rather streamlined, and nobody we know works there.

 

I know it's not directly on topic, but it's a workaround if someone wants to go that route.

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We trust our family GP explicitly. We've both been going to her for years. A while back, for *A*'s annual checkup, I tagged along and we sat down and had a talk with her about the changes to our relationship. We talked STIs, testing, HPV vaccine, etc. It was honest, nonjudgmental, and informative. It is awesome to have her as a doctor.

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We trust our family GP explicitly..... We talked STIs, testing, HPV vaccine, etc. It was honest, nonjudgmental, and informative. It is awesome to have her as a doctor.

 

This is just as it should be. Your medical professionals are there

--to help you stay healthy, not to judge your decisions;

--to help you manage risk, not to tell you what risks to take;

--to keep you informed, not to tell you what to think.

 

As an aside, it's a pleasant exception when patients are forthcoming about their sexual health concerns. We medical professionals should be grateful for your candor and should always offer the respectful responses to which you are entitled.

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Assuming that we are up front and honest with our doctor, should we be worried that they might write something about our activities in our medical file(s) that could cause a problem later? (e.g., when you try to buy life insurance they access your medical records)

 

I want to be honest with my doctor, but I do NOT want a written record of what I talk to her about when it comes to multiple partners...

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Same. Our doctor is one of 3 in the building. We get on great with all 3. shortly after starting swinging, and as part of re-assuring ourselves we decided to get tested for everything.

 

We went in and simply talked to him about it. He was completely non judgmental, described risks and symptoms, calmed a lot of our fears, and sent us off for the blood tests that would be covered by our insurance. There were other tests that weren't covered (I can't remember the details) but he gave us the low down on how to go to the public clinic at the local hospital to get those tests done for free too!

 

Everything came through clean, and we will be getting tested again shortly, having decided to get tested annually.

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I feel that if you are engaging in behavior that you may be embarrassed to talk about should you be doing that? No judgment, just a thought. Doctors are trained to deal with everything. If you get an attitude, dump the doc and find one that you're comfortable with. I have talked frankly with my doc and no issues.

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Enjoying Life, most of the times my doctor will carefully review my file before he sends a copy of it out. They also will code in such a way that the insurance won't raise any flags and pay the claim.

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To Enjoying Life...

 

If you trust your physician, you have to trust his/her discretion.

 

Medical data are just that, medical data. Many patients have a variety of issues that they consider at least as sensitive--if not more sensitive in some respects-- than having more than one partner. I have cared for many patients with issues such as transmissible diseases (HIV, Hepatitis), mental illness, history of rape and other abuse.

 

We are cautious about transmitting information except on a need-to-know basis, and only then under HIPAA regulations (in the USA).

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To Enjoying Life...

 

If you trust your physician, you have to trust his/her discretion.

 

 

Thanks for the advice. I've recently started seeing a new gynecologist rather than the GP I'd been seeing for XX years. I'm not sure I've had enough interaction with her yet to be that comfortable. But I have an appointment coming up in a few weeks and will have a talk with her about what and how things get written in my file, how things get coded for insurance, and how/under what circumstances medical records could be disclosed to third parties. I'll make a decision based on that conversation whether to trust her or whether I should start searching for a new doctor that I do trust.

 

Maybe I'm being overly cautious but I had an issue with the way in which my GP described something in my medical records that almost caused me a problem when I was buying new life insurance last year. It just made me far more conscious that what I say to a doctor 1) doesn't always stay as private as I thought it would and 2) might get interpreted and recorded in your file in a way that was actually very different from the reality of the situation.

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