Threesomes, and Christian views regarding threesomes?

[sailships 15]

I was searching the board here for posts relating to religion, Biblical verses, etc as it might apply to swinging. Or more directly, FMF threesomes.

 

My girlfriend and I have talked about threesomes before, and also consider ourselves Christians, but are curious about the Christian implications of a threesome.

 

Can anyone help? Direct us to any resources, other threads, etc?

 

Many thanks!

[Coupleerotic22 1,419]

In the end it is up to you to make peace with it. Biblical versus can be interpreted to say different things to different people. In the end your relationship with God is what you should rely on.

 

Here is one site that is pro swinging:

Liberated Christians Polyamory, Swing, Biblical, Sybian Cyber Center

 

And one site that is pro sex but anti swinging.

Interview with Ex-Swingers: Seeing God’s Redemption ~ Part One Christian Nymphos

 

I gave two different views so you could see arguments for both sides.

 

We are swingers and Christians and have a relationship with Christ, we know we live in a state of grace and feel comfortable that we are good with God. Each person has to find their own peace.

 

Good luck and God bless.

[BigNikki 44]

We've discussed swinging and Christianity before in other threads, but you've got to admit that threesomes and more complicated stuff are a touch trickier.

 

No jokes permitted here about threesomes and The Trinity.

 

My family practices three religions and you could say John and I are lapsed in all three. But we live in their shadow.

 

I can square our swinging with all three, but I'm not a theologian or tight with any teaching.

 

For me Christianity and the other two religions ask this: For everyone, they ask us to live morally; for those who can, they ask us to be spiritual.

 

For me, the only thing religion demands of my swinging is no cruelty. Or if you will, the Hippocratic Oath: first, do no harm.

[lardub 170]

We have a boytoy who we tend to see on Sunday afternoons after he attends church, we have never judged him for his involvement with his church which he is very involved as he has been busy due to church business. We at onetime were very involved with a church even sat on council for a number of years and a number of other volunteer positions, but the hypocrisy we found was much to difficult to ignore any longer. The constant put downs for people who didn't follow the teachings of the bible and the gossip circle, as well as the persistence to insist that Christianity was the one and only truth, despite the fact that all christian denominations consist of pagan rituals that predate Christ and are simply made up by the roman emperor Constantine and a number of popes and others in order to appease people into following this religion.

 

A bit harsh for me to say but in studying religion most of my life and understanding history and what transpired within the RC church in its early infancy through to modern day it would be rather difficult for me to remain in a church and to continue the hypocrisy.

 

As for your dealing with swinging or threesomes many popes in the early years had wives, engaged in sex with males and females and orgies and are now saints so my guess is yes it is allowed

 

check out this link.. List of sexually active popes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[BigNikki 44]

I don't think I've ever mentioned on this Board that my John was a monk for a few years before we were introduced to marry. He doesn't tell me much about it, but it's never caused any conflict with our swinging.

 

Those years, though, delayed my passion for him.

[Chicup 41]

My personal take has always been there is a lot of sophistry among swingers trying to justify swinging from some sort of Christian perspective. You aren't going to find it convincingly. You need to make up your own minds on 'wrongness' and be comfortable in what you do rather than try to find someone elses interpretation that gives you the green light and absolves you of thinking about it.

[lotsoffun201 175]

Don't even get me started on Christians and swinging......Mrs was and still is a very religious person. She says...."the marriage bed is undefiled" meaning whatever a married couple bring to the bedroom is sacred. Not sure that applies as originally intended but is sure sounds good. She has been receiving nothing but grief over the past few days from her holier than thou Christian friends on facebook to the point of tears.

 

I posted this on a similar thread only a few days ago. Frankly I heard and read all I could on FB regarding that and I just committed facebook "suicide"

Maybe my profile will rise from the dead sometime in the future, but not right now. I have heard enough. I would rather stick to these sites....At least we aren't judged

[Alura 2,774]

I follow my uncle's teachings about Father Sky and Mother Earth. I don't have to make any excuses.

 

Alura

[bbarnsworth 2,644]

In the end it is up to you to make peace with it.

 

The best advice.

 

For anything you do in life, chances are you can find a religion somewhere that holds beliefs that say you're doing it wrong. There's no possible way to achieve salvation via all religions, all religious texts. In the end, it's up to you to decide what is most important to your spirituality, what tracks most with what your own belief system is.

 

My wife and I are both practicing Christians. We had considerable discussion regarding swinging and religion. We were able to quite comfortably square Christianity with swinging.

 

Here's a point of discussion for you and your partner; Adultery doesn't mean what you think it means. Adultery doesn't mean sex outside of marriage, or sex with someone who is married (but not your spouse). The term has changed in definition over the centuries through many translations and changes in nature of how it is used in the societies where the term has been used. Think; "Gay" a hundred years ago meant happy. Now, it means homosexual. So, if there were a passage that said "Thou shall be gay before the Lord", it's meaning a hundred years ago vs. today would rather dramatically change.

 

If you look at what Jesus said about marriage and sex, it was actually very, very minimal.

 

If you look in the Bible to find people held in high regard as morally right and good, you will find some rather amazing facts relating to their marriages and sexual activities.

 

These are uncomfortable things that most modern Christians would literally freak out at the suggestion.

 

Here's another one. Someone above noted some popes having wives, lovers, etc and now being saints. Did you know some priests and bishops ran whore houses and felt religiously justified in doing so?

 

Hummmmmmmmm.

[twistedpretzels 100]

I follow my uncle's teachings about Father Sky and Mother Earth. I don't have to make any excuses.

 

Alura

 

I agree. Especially, about the excuses.

 

[Guest sandraandalex]

If god really cared about my sex life, I'd get a different god that had more sensible interests.

[celtic239 297]

While I'm not a theologian I believe that most organized religions frown upon sex outside of the normal husband and wife relationship and that this prohibition isn't confined just to Catholicism or other Christian religions. I believe that threesomes are prohibited in Islam, some sects allow a man to have several wives but he is only allowed to bed them one at a time. Buddhism and traditional Hinduism preach that "enlightenment" requires one to practice sexual self restraint. The Lifestyle is not a poster child for sexual self restraint.

[Alura 2,774]

...traditional Hinduism preach that "enlightenment" requires one to practice sexual self restraint.

 

The ancient love temples in India don't seem to illustrate this:

 

love temples in india - Google Search

[Big Rock 173]

I follow my uncle's teachings about Father Sky and Mother Earth. I don't have to make any excuses.

 

Alura

I follow my own experiences, and ditto.

[Big Rock 173]

The best advice.

 

For anything you do in life, chances are you can find a religion somewhere that holds beliefs that say you're doing it wrong. There's no possible way to achieve salvation via all religions, all religious texts. In the end, it's up to you to decide what is most important to your spirituality, what tracks most with what your own belief system is.

 

My wife and I are both practicing Christians. We had considerable discussion regarding swinging and religion. We were able to quite comfortably square Christianity with swinging.

 

Here's a point of discussion for you and your partner; Adultery doesn't mean what you think it means. Adultery doesn't mean sex outside of marriage, or sex with someone who is married (but not your spouse). The term has changed in definition over the centuries through many translations and changes in nature of how it is used in the societies where the term has been used. Think; "Gay" a hundred years ago meant happy. Now, it means homosexual. So, if there were a passage that said "Thou shall be gay before the Lord", it's meaning a hundred years ago vs. today would rather dramatically change.

 

If you look at what Jesus said about marriage and sex, it was actually very, very minimal.

 

If you look in the Bible to find people held in high regard as morally right and good, you will find some rather amazing facts relating to their marriages and sexual activities.

 

These are uncomfortable things that most modern Christians would literally freak out at the suggestion.

 

Here's another one. Someone above noted some popes having wives, lovers, etc and now being saints. Did you know some priests and bishops ran whore houses and felt religiously justified in doing so?

 

Hummmmmmmmm.

Spoken like a true lawyer, BB. My opinion is, that if you look hard enough, you can find loopholes in any and every theology, that can justify any act. The governing texts of all major religions, and even cults like Scientology, can be and are, subject to individual interpretation. I think what the OP wants to know is whether or not the LS, in general, and threesomes, specifically, violate the SPIRIT and traditional teachings of Christianity. If that is the case, then I think that unequivocally, the answer is yes. IF you are a practicing Christian, and adhere to the values and practices of an organized Church, then the LS is Adultery and threesomes, the same. I do not agree with this, and do not practice religion, but I accept it for what it is, and don't try to justify my Poly marriage by means of some spurious, back-handed, pseudo spiritualism. We , who practice relationships out side of the norm, need to set our own agenda, and stop playing the semantics game with Vanillas, on THEIR terms, and by their rules, and start to stand up and be counted.

[Coupleerotic22 1,419]

Spoken like a true lawyer, BB. My opinion is, that if you look hard enough, you can find loopholes in any and every theology, that can justify any act. The governing texts of all major religions, and even cults like Scientology, can be and are, subject to individual interpretation. I think what the OP wants to know is whether or not the LS, in general, and threesomes, specifically, violate the SPIRIT and traditional teachings of Christianity. If that is the case, then I think that unequivocally, the answer is yes. IF you are a practicing Christian, and adhere to the values and practices of an organized Church, then the LS is Adultery and threesomes, the same. I do not agree with this, and do not practice religion, but I accept it for what it is, and don't try to justify my Poly marriage by means of some spurious, back-handed, pseudo spiritualism. We , who practice relationships out side of the norm, need to set our own agenda, and stop playing the semantics game with Vanillas, on THEIR terms, and by their rules, and start to stand up and be counted.

 

 

So to sum it up, if someone believes differently from what you believe about something that you don't believe in the fist place, then they are wrong?

 

How enlightening.

[Big Rock 173]

So to sum it up, if someone believes differently from what you believe about something that you don't believe in the fist place, then they are wrong?

 

How enlightening.

CE22, I tried to explain my reasons for my statements, and I was careful to show that there is no right or wrong, only dogma and opinion. If you or the OP really want to know about this, instead of asking swingers, ask a member of the clergy of any denomination, if threesomes or Swinging are wrong or right. Let me know how many affirmative answers you get, if any. Instead of arguing this point amongst ourselves, we should all be promoting our lifestyle choices to the Vanilla world as positive alternatives to traditional relationships. My wives and I have made the decision to be completely open about our marriage to anyone who inquires. It has cost Janie her job (five figures) and has cost all of us the love and respect of some of our family members. My sister will no longer speak to me, and both Janie and Bet's parents have expressed strong disapproval, as well as Janie's former Pastor. This isn't a religious issue, it is a human rights issue. As little as 20 years ago, Gays and Lesbians were condemned by virtually every major religion, and this continued until the gays took action. Now many religions are more accepting. There is no place for religion in the bedroom.

[Dont.Stop 339]

Mrs. said "Oh my GOD!" a few times during an MFM. Absent of a lightning bolt, we considered this a sign and we continued on.

 

Seriously though, man has a history of adapting/interpreting religion to suit his needs. Until the ideals in the Bible are unilaterally enforced instead of selectively interpreted, it is, in my opinion, a handy book of fables.

 

Your mileage may vary. I know of a lot of unhappy people who are bound to the readings of the Bible. And they don't even believe in god.

[Big Rock 173]

Mrs. said "Oh my GOD!" a few times during an MFM. Absent of a lightning bolt, we considered this a sign and we continued on.

 

Seriously though, man has a history of adapting/interpreting religion to suit his needs. Until the ideals in the Bible are unilaterally enforced instead of selectively interpreted, it is, in my opinion, a handy book of fables.

 

Your mileage may vary. I know of a lot of unhappy people who are bound to the readings of the Bible. And they don't even believe in god.

Exactly my point, DStop. There is no way to interpret any religion correctly. If you obey the letter of the Bible (or other religious texts) you may be wrong. If you interpret the words, differently from what the established usages are, you may be wrong, also. If I were the OP I would go ahead and have the 3-some, then sit down with your handy-dandy Bible and find a verse that says it's OK, I'm sure that there is one that can apply.

[Alura 2,774]

Isn't there a story in the old testament about a 900 year old dude who had a threesome with his two daughters, the instigators? Who was that? Methusula? Job? Noah?

 

If you're 900 years old and able to perform in a threesome, it has to be an act of God, don't y'all reckon?

 

Alura

[Coupleerotic22 1,419]

Rock - the poster was not asking about civil rights issues, but religious issues, you decided that was the wrong question and have attempted to it into and argument and crusade (pun intended) by saying "we should all be promoting our lifestyle choices to the Vanilla world as positive alternatives to traditional relationships." It's their question, let them ask it. I think the OP's question is more about squaring their faith with swinging more than a "semantics game with Vanillas." If you can add something to the answers then by all means do so, but don't change the question to one that fits your agenda.

 

And by the way I am not interested in "promoting our lifestlye choices to vanillas," and further more that has nothing to do with the OP's quesiton, so I can't say they are either. But I am interested in trying to help people that are curious about swinging even if they are looking for "spurious, back-handed, pseudo spiritualism," or better yet have real faith and are curious enough to ask rather than accept "dogma and opinion" of the church.

 

Furthermore there is a difference between religion, faith and a relationship. So organized religion if far from the final answer. But if you read the Bible there is a whole lot of sex and bed room activity going on contrary to your position. And faith is supposed to be 24/7 so while religion may have no place in the bedroom, for Christians faith does.

 

Remarkably the bible, even in English, does not say many things that religions say it does, and that is particularly true if you go back to the original languages. So what bbarnsworth said is actually very accurate. But knowing how organized religion is I agree you won't find many clergy telling you swinging is a good thing. Then again they tell us so many things that are not actually in the Bible. As you pointed out, people used to condemn homosexuals much more, but people start looking at the bible and realizing it did exactly say what the had been told for so long. The same is true here, if people are willing to question and look for themselves. Which the OP's appears to be doing.

 

But what strikes me most about your post, and thus the sarcasm in my reply, is you answer is not much different than that of the clergy. Basically that you cannot be both Christian and a swinger because "the SPIRIT and traditional teachings of Christianity" forbid it "unequivocally." Same dogmatic approach, just a different dogma. It is bewildering that people that have decided not to "practice religion" are so quick to give answers to people who are trying to figure out how to do just that.

[lardub 170]

Well Jesus liked threesomes...

 

Matthew 18:20 Jesus says, "For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."

 

Oh and it was Lot's daughters who got him drunk, fucked him and then raised his children.

[Alura 2,774]

Oh and it was Lot's daughters who got him drunk, fucked him and then raised his children

 

I should have remembered that, Lardub... Lot, the guy with the salty wife.

[Big Rock 173]

CE22, it simply isn't worth the trouble. Believe what you want, change the context of my words however you will, but I'm not going to get into an argument with you. If you want to say you win, ok, you win. You read into my posts your own ideas, not mine. Almost the first words I typed was ,"In my opinion", Or don't you feel that I'm entitled to that? Out of here.

[Chicup 41]

Isn't there a story in the old testament about a 900 year old dude who had a threesome with his two daughters, the instigators? Who was that? Methusula? Job? Noah?

 

If you're 900 years old and able to perform in a threesome, it has to be an act of God, don't y'all reckon?

 

Alura

 

They got him drunk first and you know what they say about drinking and incestuous swinging.....

[Coupleerotic22 1,419]

They got him drunk first and you know what they say about drinking and incestuous swinging.....

 

Funny thing is Chicup, I was reading another thread and you wrote something along the lines of "don't get me started on old people sex" or soemthing along those lines.

 

I was going to warn Alura he needed to hide this thread because clearly 900 year old sex would be off the charts "old people" sex.

 

Personally, I say more power to them, I hope to be "old people" someday and sure as hell hope I am having "old people" sex.

 

According to my little girl anything over 20 years old is OLD! So I guess I have already been there for a while. All in the eye of the beholder.

[Chicup 41]

We saw several 70+ year old couples on our swingers cruise in April.

 

I thought 'More power to them if we are lucky that will be us some day' but that does NOT mean I want to watch

[mactlk 16]

For us, reading "Divine Sex" by Philo Thelos helped us come to a better understanding of what we read in the Bible on sex versus what we had been taught all our lives as did visiting this board and the other one already mentioned by another poster.

[youngman21 15]

I was searching the board here for posts relating to religion, Biblical verses, etc as it might apply to swinging. Or more directly, FMF threesomes.

 

My girlfriend and I have talked about threesomes before, and also consider ourselves Christians, but are curious about the Christian implications of a threesome.

 

Can anyone help? Direct us to any resources, other threads, etc?

 

Many thanks!

 

hello Sailships,

I myself am a Christian and I have grown up in a christian home, all my life I have believed in the usual things like pre-marital sex is wrong and same with homosexuality all those other things too. However there was always a doubt in my mind as to whether pre-marital sex was actually bad, and almost 2 years ago, I stumbled on a bunch of articles and some websites on the internet which have convinced me otherwise about these sexual issues.

 

Not only do I believe premarital sex is ok but same with threesomes and homosexuality and swinging and stuff like that.

 

I found out the info from some of the same places that are mentioned in some other posts

Liberated Christians Polyamory, Swing, Biblical, Sybian Cyber Center

I was also emailing one of the owners of the site about a bunch of questions and bible verses and i felt like his answers made good sense and held up better than the opposing beliefs.

and I read a book called 'Divine sex' by Philo Thelos

Christian Based Erotic Website, How To, Literary & More - EroticLiberty.com

erotic liberty can be a good website too.

 

so I hope that helps and that you wouldn't stop being Christians or turn away from the faith just because you want to experience threesomes because I believe God is ok with that and we he wants most from you and everyone is just a relationship with him. So make sure you pray about it too!

[wilson68868 15]

we as a couple are both Christian. We would love to share our thoughts

 

“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral” (Hebrews 13:4-5).

 

This is the perfect verse to justify and not discredit our feelings. For God will judge the adulterer, but what is adultery? That's the problem in question. Adultery is defined as sexual intercourse between a man and a married woman who is not his wife. But lets use critical thinking to break it down further. the verse grouped adultery with the "sexually immoral". What does this mean. It means sexual intercourse between a man and a married woman who is not his wife, that is secret and hurtful. It is the breaking of trust. it is the surrender of marital respect and secrets. Sexual immorality is the same as regular immorality. Jesus said it best: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them" (Matthew 7:12, see also Luke 6:31) that's the golden rule. We simply translate this into our sexual mantra " if it does not hurt anyone and it feels good, then enjoy it." Therefor we are not being immoral or adulterous. We are sharing secrets not keeping them from each other, we are doing what feels good while respecting and loving everyone. there could not be a more christian view.

 

Jesus Christ gave us a NEW COVENANT in the the testament. The often quoted old testament laws, the hating of swingers and gays, this is old testament law. Jesus changed the rules when he died for us and commanded us to love one another. Thats what our relationship and swinging is all about.

[shrevecouple 252]

Dont.Stop said:

Seriously though, man has a history of adapting/interpreting religion to suit his needs.

This is exactly how I feel about it. If you want to believe that swinging is ok by the bible then you are more likely to interpret it as so. Same goes for someone who wants to believe it is immoral and not right by the bible. This goes for every topic their is from abortion to proper burial procedures.

[WhatisTruth 41]

shrevecouple said:

Dont.Stop said:

 

This is exactly how I feel about it. If you want to believe that swinging is ok by the bible then you are more likely to interpret it as so. Same goes for someone who wants to believe it is immoral and not right by the bible. This goes for every topic their is from abortion to proper burial procedures.

 

Diversity isn't necessarily a bad thing though. I see it more as people experiencing spirituality through their own worldviews and particular lenses. I think I prefer this than if everybody believed the exact same thing and their interpretations of events and what not would be identical. That seems significantly more scary and cult-ish than anything... Besides, I think most of us can tell the difference between the people who are authentic about their faith and those that just give it lip service-no matter what their convictions may be.

[lovinher 505]

Murder in the Bible

 

We are all dead.

[WhatisTruth 41]

lovinher said:

Murder in the Bible

 

We are all dead.

 

How is this relevant to the conversation of threesomes, or productive in any way at all?

[Alura 2,774]

WhatisTruth said:

How is this relevant to the conversation of threesomes, or productive in any way at all?

 

I have the impression that the website is trying to point out the absurdities one finds in the Bible. I didn't read all the way through but my guess is that threesomes are covered in some way and the punishment is probably death.

 

We have to realize that the Bible was not assembled by God, but by some guys Constantine knew who could write.

[lovinher 505]

Alura said:

I have the impression that the website is trying to point out the absurdities one finds in the Bible. I didn't read all the way through but my guess is that threesomes are covered in some way and the punishment is probably death.

 

We have to realize that the Bible was not assembled by God, but by some guys Constantine knew who could write.

 

AMEN

 

whatistruth said:

 

Besides, I think most of us can tell the difference between the people who are authentic about their faith and those that just give it lip service-no matter what their convictions may be.

 

That would be hypocrisy right?

 

The OP asked for verses. Well there you go.

 

IMO, if looking for justification or piece of mind by asking another about their views about religion and swinging is pointless. Ask 20 people and you will get 20 different answers. Ask swingers you will get your justification. Ask a crowd leaving a church and you will get something quite different. In the end we all have to make our own decisions and come to terms with it.

 

I'm an atheist-shoot me. But ironically I was sent that link a few days ago after debating (and defending) the morals and positive impact of religions on society as a whole. It isn't always positive. But, IMO it does generally serve as a moral compass......with many exceptions of course. It just depends on what suits you at the time and your definition of morals. If you find a verse you don't agree with it isn't too hard to find another that validates your opinion of it.

[WhatisTruth 41]

That would be hypocrisy right?

Perhaps...perhaps not. Hypocrisy is when you say that you do one thing, but then do the opposite. Often times with Christianity, people superimpose thier own idea's of Christianity and how a Christian should behave and label them a hypocrit when they don't live up to thier false expectations.

 

AMEN

 

The OP asked for verses. Well there you go.

 

No, the OP was seeking advice, references, and wisdom. You responded by more or less bashing their religion.

 

 

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IMO, if looking for justification or piece of mind by asking another about their views about religion and swinging is pointless. Ask 20 people and you will get 20 different answers. Ask swingers you will get your justification. Ask a crowd leaving a church and you will get something quite different. In the end we all have to make our own decisions and come to terms with it.

 

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Murder in the Bible

 

We are all dead.

[WhatisTruth 41]

Alura said:

I have the impression that the website is trying to point out the absurdities one finds in the Bible. I didn't read all the way through but my guess is that threesomes are covered in some way and the punishment is probably death.

 

We have to realize that the Bible was not assembled by God, but by some guys Constantine knew who could write.

 

I really don't think this is the appropriate setting to attack one's spiritual beliefs if they are seeking advice on swinging...

 

And to clarify Alura, on the webpage referenced by that post, threesomes were not covered and punished by death. Im sure somebody could make an argument for it though. They would be wrong, but you can argue anything (as this extremist website attempts).

[Alura 2,774]

Sorry... I guess I should have written, "...in my opinion..."

 

Alura

[StewartP 171]

If this was reddit or some other Forum I would leap into this debate wholeheartedly. But personally I associate swinging with fun. I don't want to get on my high horse in this forum.

 

I'd be happy to let her rip in PM tho!!

[whatwewant 38]

In the end, it depends on what you believe. The New Testament, and in particular, Jesus, say virtually nothing about sex whatsoever. The Old Testament is ripe with all kinds of sex and violence. IMHO, they were entirely unrelated, until we tried to put them together. My guess is that if Jesus existed, he had all kinds of sex. Btw, what better way to get your husband off your case about a pregnancy he didn't do, then to blame it on angels? Joseph was a dunce, and Mary was probably wanted a little on the side. Bam, Christianity is born out of adultery. Ironic, since so many Bible thumpers are scared to death of it.

[AlohaCouple 15]

Thanks for a great thread. Generally when I have seen topics like this is degenerates into an internet shouting mess.

 

My wife and I have toyed with the ideas of swinging for a very long time, but have never went further than meeting some couples for dinner and some chatting. I guess the reason we have never went further is we hit the wall of conflict when it comes to this exact topic. Both my wife and I are born again Christians that are active in church.

 

As you can imagine reconciling our wants and desire with the bible has proven to be a very difficult task. For myself, I have realized that my thoughts and sexual ambitions are who I am and no matter how hard I try I cannot just shut them off, unless I am prepared for some serious "mental" anguish. As for my wife, she is more able to "turn off" her feelings and desires than I am.

 

My wife was raised in a strong Pentecostal church and was taught that sex was only something that a husband and wife did to have children and other than that sex was bad. Her parents even glued the pages of the encyclopedia that had anatomy pictures in it.

 

As a young lady my wife knew that she liked woman as much as guys and she would have masturbation sessions with other neighborhood girls. Or course her church life was contradictory to these actions. So in turn she suppressed her feelings and this in my opinion set my wife up for a very conflicted sexual life.

 

For years I did not know this about my wife, but then I realized when we watched porn together she seemed to be much more aroused during the FF scenes. Finally I asked her if she liked watching the ladies and she said yes. From there she was much more open about her past and her bisexual tendencies.

 

For me I grew up in a "loose" catholic home. When I say loose, I mean non practicing for the most part. I did not have a very strong religious background. We would just attend church one the big days like Christmas and Easter.

 

As most boys I chased the pussy, but was not very successful, so the Playboy, Hustler, and a cable tv descrambler became my friends. My parents were generally open about sex and did not make a big deal of it. As an adult I can appreciate parents being a little more open about anatomy and sex overall I think it is better for the kids.

 

During the time my wife and I date,d (9years) we talked about her bisexuality and swinging a lot. We sought out other couples for swinging, met with some and things just never went to the next level.

 

Fast forward to age 31....

I became a born again believer and my wife rededicated herself to Christ. I thought at first, I would be able to put away those desires and I did for 6 months to a year. Eventually, after making myself absolutely miserable I came to realize I am who I am and no matter how much I prayed and ask God to help me overcome these "sin full" thoughts, they were still there.

 

My wife on the other hand, shut her self down sexually. We went from a strong sexual relationship to maybe sex every six weeks. She said on more than one occasions "christian ladies don't do those things", referring to even monogamous sex. I believe this was a reflection to her parents indoctrination of sex if bad and sin full unless you are having children out of the intercourse.This manifested itself into a bad situation effective our marriage in a very negative way.

 

I will be honest this went on for about 5 years and I was MISERABLE! Many nights I laid in bed and cried myself to sleep because of her sexual rejection. She just literally shut down. Almost no interest in sex at all. I would try to “get the ball rolling in bed” only to have my had pushed away. That was a tough period in life for me. Of course thoughts of infidelity were almost constant because I was not getting satisfied at home. I am sure some would look bad at me because of the thoughts of infidelity but I am just being honest. I would assume almost any guy that is not being taken care of at home will eventually have those thoughts or actions.

 

About two years ago I ran across a website called christiannymphos.com, after reading the site thoroughly. I took a chance and showed her the site and she began to read it. It was a huge help for her. She started opening up again after 5 years. She soon realized that sex is not a bad thing and the marriage bed is undefiled.

 

In the last two years were have started talking about women she likes, we have a virtual laundry list of church ladies she would like to be with. She is still scared of upsetting God by having sex with a woman or with another man. So we have never went any further.

 

Things are much better now days but the Bible and church still occasionally take it toll on our sex lives.

 

That is our story, thanks for reading and maybe that will be a help to someone.

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And to clarify Alura, on the webpage referenced by that post, threesomes were not covered and punished by death. Im sure somebody could make an argument for it though. They would be wrong, but you can argue anything (as this extremist website attempts).

 

It would seem we agree on something. Well said.

 

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So much is written about what the Christian bible does or does not say. Almost nothing here has been said about what the Christian bible is. First question is which bible? There are many, and they say different things. How did many different Christian bibles come to be? If you read a bit of Christian history, you'll realize that what makes up the bible has been a powerful and contentious battle for many centuries. That's why there are so many versions.

 

The best book I've read on the matter is "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart Ehrman. It is the story behind who changed the bible and why. The book highlights Alura's point that the bible was written by humans, that humans decided what scriptures went into the bible, and which didn't, and that the bible has evolved tremendously over its history. Those writtings, decisions, and evolution of a book supposed to be the word of god involved human politics and power struggles of the highest order. It's fascinating to read some real history on religion, rather than what is taught in churchs.

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On 11/24/2011 at 10:17 PM, youngman21 said:

 

hello Sailships,

I myself am a Christian and I have grown up in a christian home, all my life I have believed in the usual things like pre-marital sex is wrong and same with homosexuality all those other things too. However there was always a doubt in my mind as to whether pre-marital sex was actually bad, and almost 2 years ago, I stumbled on a bunch of articles and some websites on the internet which have convinced me otherwise about these sexual issues.

 

Not only do I believe premarital sex is ok but same with threesomes and homosexuality and swinging and stuff like that.

 

I found out the info from some of the same places that are mentioned in some other posts

Liberated Christians Polyamory, Swing, Biblical, Sybian Cyber Center

I was also emailing one of the owners of the site about a bunch of questions and bible verses and i felt like his answers made good sense and held up better than the opposing beliefs.

and I read a book called 'Divine sex' by Philo Thelos

Christian Based Erotic Website, How To, Literary & More - EroticLiberty.com

erotic liberty can be a good website too.

 

so I hope that helps and that you wouldn't stop being Christians or turn away from the faith just because you want to experience threesomes because I believe God is ok with that and we he wants most from you and everyone is just a relationship with him. So make sure you pray about it too!

How do you email the owner of that website thanks