Single males at the clubs?

[rainbowskye 102]

Not sure if I placed this in the right category or not, but I wanted input on what others thought of single males at the clubs?

 

In the past I honestly never thought about it but tonight I saw something that creeped me the hell out.

 

A group of us went to a club and were having a great time. Well out of nowhere there is a single guy walking around not making any eye contact with anyone. After a few of us go to play and come back to our gathering spot the guy is now standing against the wall watching a couple Fondle one another while he jerked off.

 

I don't hate on anyone in the lifestyle and I know there are single men and women in the ls, but this just was creepy.

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

Yes, creepy. Did you inform the party (club) host or hostess? After a complaint of this kind of behaviour, any club to which we belong would have escorted the guy out.

[Alura 2,774]

Mrs. Alura and I began playing back when the "lifestyle" was called "wife swapping." We called it "spouse-swapping." It never occurred to us that someone who had no spouse to swap might want to join in... until we joined this board. She posted on a thread offering advice on how to give a blowjob and was overwhelmed by Private Messages from single guys who wanted to experience her technique. She rarely posted after that.

 

Would someone take a taxi to a Porsche Club race, expecting to take someone else's car out onto the track because he/she "can drive your car in a way it's never been driven before?"

 

I realize clubs allow singles mainly because of the additional revenue, but that there is also a demand for additional people for a threesome. I think "creepy singles" are the main reason we went to only one Swingers Club during our almost thirty years of "spouse-swapping."

 

We did our threesomes with our play-couples, taking turns.

 

Alura

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

I'm a little confused and not quite sure what was creepy about him/ the situation?

 

Was it just because he was masturbating? Was he creepy before that?

[two4youinswva 3,068]

To be fair, we've ran into our fair share of creepy husbands and creepy wives as well.

-In fact, nothing disconcerts me more than creepy lady at the club.

 

I don't think single dudes have a monopoly on the creepiness scene.

[rainbowskye 102]

I don't think guys are the only creepy ones

 

This guy was creepy before he started doing this. I don't know how to explain it.

 

There were other things about it.

 

The club owner and I talked at the time and again about it today.

 

I think, for those of us who were there, it wasn't the act of masturbation that was creepy but the way in which he went about it.

 

I've definitely met my share of creepy ladies as well.

[Learning 160]

An icky club nearby has a quite a few singles males walking through. The last time when we were there, there was this very unclean, dirty, smelly guy who was there that was totally going around and yanking it. He got a hard on from watching the ladies dance. He went up to the sex areas and was wanking it again too. At one point, we asked him to leave, finally after asking him to leave for the 5th time, we stopped what we are doing. It was very strange and disgusting.

[DigginIt 1,132]

That's why we only go to clubs on couples only night The wife and I are not a replacement for some guys night out at the XXX video store. Are there creepy guys/girls on couples night...yes, but a heck of a lot less of them or maybe we just don't notice them as much.

 

Either way it works for us.

[TNT 1,155]

What is creepy to some, isn't necessarily creepy to others.

 

Another way of looking at this is...it's possible that the couple were turned on by the guy masturbating while watching them.

 

Now I'm not saying that is/was the case, but a lot of times our perception of what we see isn't exactly what is going on.

 

I do understand your creepy feeling, I've met/seen guys that gave me the creeps, but that doesn't mean they weren't someone elses dreamboat.

 

Teresa

[Aion222 15]

Unfortunately, it's single creepy weirdos like these that give single guys described in this thread a sort of bad stigma, especially at clubs. I never been to any swinger clubs, but I can see why they can be a mixed bag. But like TNT said, it's different for everyone.

[DigginIt 1,132]

Unfortunately, it's single creepy weirdos like these that give single guys described in this thread a sort of bad stigma, especially at clubs.

 

Your exactly right. It's a "one bad apple spoils the bunch" mentality and we all know that there are great guys in the lifestyle. It's just that there are so many that ruin it for everyone.

[Aion222 15]

Your exactly right. It's a "one bad apple spoils the bunch" mentality and we all know that there are great guys in the lifestyle. It's just that there are so many that ruin it for everyone.

 

Hi, DigginIt. Yeah, and I don't necessarily blame couples for having that mentality because God knows there are plenty of creeps out there; I blame those weirdos with no scruples and asperger-like qualities.

 

But, it is unfortunate when people reject others without giving them a chance.

[two4youinswva 3,068]

What is creepy to some, isn't necessarily creepy to others.

 

I think that's a really good point. The bigger the group, the more diverse the kinks, and the better the chance that what one likes, another may not.

[rainbowskye 102]

I don't let one bad apple spoil it for me.

 

If I did I would have missed out on some great times.

[crazinred 36]

We love going to clubs and playing in front of others. We get many watchers and If it is a single male that watches that's fine with us. As long as he doesn't touch with out permission. We play mostly with single guys and to be honest with you if a single guy comes up while we are playing and pulls it out and starts jerking off we have no problem with it. It will probably blew any chance of us playing with him. Red knows some guys need to do that but its in no way a attraction for her.

[shy_couple 459]

Unfortunately there are quite a few single guys out there. The good ones don't stand out but the creepy or bad ones do, just like most things in life.

 

We have been to a few clubs or parties that allow single guys. After the last one we went we decided never again. Our experience is similar to the other people. We do have an exhibitionistic streak but when the only ones watching are single guys "tugging it," trying to get on the bed, or get between our legs for a birds eye view its a big turn off.

 

Yes, it only takes one bad apple to spoil it. We have given the clubs and parties multiple chance but it seems to be the same every time and not for us anymore.

[Galanga 249]

I read the original post several times now looking for the "creepy" part. I'm sure the couple was indeed creeped out, but I don't understand why.

 

As for single guys in the clubs, I cut my teeth in this lifestyle at a time when there were no swingers clubs. "Swinger" wasn't even a word back then, and "Lifestyle" referred to income. Couples into group sex would arrange house parties through ads in the newspaper using hidden messages about selling a “used silver plated brass trombone with a missing valve”. But a common place to meet strangers for anonymous play was the adult theater. Adult theaters were the first “swingers clubs”.

 

But unlike today’s swingers clubs, adult theaters were extremely sexually charged. There was no pretense of being “upscale” or “sophisticated”. They were sleazy places with sleazy people, and the only reason you would be there is to get your rocks off on the bodies of others. You didn’t go there to be social or to see how many “attractive” couples would hit on you. The darkness was an important part. Couples-friendly adult theaters deliberately turned the projector very dim.

 

Obviously single men were a huge part of the adult theater scene. If you went to an adult theater for sex, being surrounded by single men was the norm. The adult theater I went to was called the Queen Anne Theater in NJ. We would drive over an hour each way for 40 minutes at the theater. It was sexually intense to an extreme … and the single men were a big part of the intensity. The Queen Anne had a main floor where the couples usually played. On a typical Saturday afternoon there would be 5-10 couples grouped together on the main floor. The balcony was almost completely lightless and was for very “daring” couples that wanted a gangbang. The front row seats in the balcony had the backs removed so that a woman can lay face down over the seat and “serve” her backside to the crowd. These seats were affectionately nicknamed “rape stands”.

 

I remember the excitement of laying over a rape stand and being literally saturated with cum inside and out, then retreating back to the couples area to “calm down”. The sneakiness was a huge part of the excitement. It wasn’t legal to have sex in an adult theater, so everything was done in the dark in secret and in a clandestine manner. You didn’t slap ass and scream “whos ya daddy”. In fact, there was little to no talking at all, and no disrobing. Women wore short skirts with nothing under, or loose fitting sun dresses that could be easily pulled up for the deed, then quickly back down like nothing ever happened. Everything was done under the cloths. The sneakiness added tremendously to the excitement. Management was required to remove anyone engaging in sex, but they looked the other way as long as you didn't make it obvious. Having full penetrative sex with a stranger without making it obvious was sexy beyond words.

 

The legal age to enter an adult theater was 21. When I started I was not yet 21, and had to be snuck in through the back door. Even that was exciting. I remember literally panting with arousal as I waited in the alleyway for my boyfriend to open the door and sneak me in.

 

Swingers clubs started when the AIDS scare hit as an “upscale” alternative to the sleazy venues. Swingers clubs caused an enormous loss of excitement. Swinging became more social than sexual. Getting off took a backseat to popularity. When swingers clubs started allowing single men I felt great. I thought finally the sneaky thrills might come back. Unfortunately it didn’t. Instead couples clung to the sociology of swinging over the sexuality. It’s not surprising that adult theaters are starting to make a comeback. In Toronto, where I live, adult theaters allow couples for free, and one even has a “couple’s room” with a gloryhole in the wall separating the “gangbang” room.

 

The bottom line is simple. I love extremely horny cock. I love the feverish desperation that curses some men. Social swingers don’t get it and perhaps view this thrill as “creepy”. That’s ok. To each her own. I would never criticize anyone for their form of fun. But I do miss the excitement of sleaze. I miss the thrill of getting off big without having to prove to myself that this is “upscale” behavior.

[DigginIt 1,132]

I read the original post several times now looking for the "creepy" part. I'm sure the couple was indeed creeped out, but I don't understand why.

 

As for single guys in the clubs, I cut my teeth in this lifestyle at a time when there were no swingers clubs. "Swinger" wasn't even a word back then, and "Lifestyle" referred to income. Couples into group sex would arrange house parties through ads in the newspaper using hidden messages about selling a “used silver plated brass trombone with a missing valve”. But a common place to meet strangers for anonymous play was the adult theater. Adult theaters were the first “swingers clubs”.

 

But unlike today’s swingers clubs, adult theaters were extremely sexually charged. There was no pretense of being “upscale” or “sophisticated”. They were sleazy places with sleazy people, and the only reason you would be there is to get your rocks off on the bodies of others. You didn’t go there to be social or to see how many “attractive” couples would hit on you. The darkness was an important part. Couples-friendly adult theaters deliberately turned the projector very dim.

 

Obviously single men were a huge part of the adult theater scene. If you went to an adult theater for sex, being surrounded by single men was the norm. The adult theater I went to was called the Queen Anne Theater in NJ. We would drive over an hour each way for 40 minutes at the theater. It was sexually intense to an extreme … and the single men were a big part of the intensity. The Queen Anne had a main floor where the couples usually played. On a typical Saturday afternoon there would be 5-10 couples grouped together on the main floor. The balcony was almost completely lightless and was for very “daring” couples that wanted a gangbang. The front row seats in the balcony had the backs removed so that a woman can lay face down over the seat and “serve” her backside to the crowd. These seats were affectionately nicknamed “rape stands”.

 

I remember the excitement of laying over a rape stand and being literally saturated with cum inside and out, then retreating back to the couples area to “calm down”. The sneakiness was a huge part of the excitement. It wasn’t legal to have sex in an adult theater, so everything was done in the dark in secret and in a clandestine manner. You didn’t slap ass and scream “whos ya daddy”. In fact, there was little to no talking at all, and no disrobing. Women wore short skirts with nothing under, or loose fitting sun dresses that could be easily pulled up for the deed, then quickly back down like nothing ever happened. Everything was done under the cloths. The sneakiness added tremendously to the excitement. Management was required to remove anyone engaging in sex, but they looked the other way as long as you didn't make it obvious. Having full penetrative sex with a stranger without making it obvious was sexy beyond words.

 

The legal age to enter an adult theater was 21. When I started I was not yet 21, and had to be snuck in through the back door. Even that was exciting. I remember literally panting with arousal as I waited in the alleyway for my boyfriend to open the door and sneak me in.

 

Swingers clubs started when the AIDS scare hit as an “upscale” alternative to the sleazy venues. Swingers clubs caused an enormous loss of excitement. Swinging became more social than sexual. Getting off took a backseat to popularity. When swingers clubs started allowing single men I felt great. I thought finally the sneaky thrills might come back. Unfortunately it didn’t. Instead couples clung to the sociology of swinging over the sexuality. It’s not surprising that adult theaters are starting to make a comeback. In Toronto, where I live, adult theaters allow couples for free, and one even has a “couple’s room” with a gloryhole in the wall separating the “gangbang” room.

 

The bottom line is simple. I love extremely horny cock. I love the feverish desperation that curses some men. Social swingers don’t get it and perhaps view this thrill as “creepy”. That’s ok. To each her own. I would never criticize anyone for their form of fun. But I do miss the excitement of sleaze. I miss the thrill of getting off big without having to prove to myself that this is “upscale” behavior.

 

While my wife and I do not fit anywhere near this post...I thought it was very enjoyable to read your perspective. It's definitely a different thought process.

 

I think it has much to do with the reasons one is into swinging. We are not in it for the sex as much as for the sex with friends. I don't think we care about any label's but I believe our relationship is special and so we prefer to fuck other people who share that same mentality.

[Agentsforfun 15]

We are newbies, and are not looking for full swap at this time, but had a recent similar situation that did turn us off in a club. We have been to 3 clubs now in 3 different states.

 

Our first in KC was wonderful - and this club "limits" the number of single men who can enter (not sure about a limit for single women, but there werent many there so assume so). We ended up going to a room, and playing - not caring who was watching. A few other couples joined in the room, but everyone played with their own partner. It was hot!

 

The place in our home city is more of a strip club - so wont be a place we will often go to.

 

The third place - city and state will remain nameless - was flowing with single men. We found a table right away, and had a beverage. The elderly man at the table beside us took about 5 minutes to turn his chair almost sideways, staring at her legs - she didnt notice, and I just let it go. I guess after another 10 minutes of us chatting, and looking at all the people (it was 1/2 couples and the other half single men), I see the same man with his junk in his hand masterbating at my g/f. I told her, and she said lets move, which we did.

 

I dont have an issue if someone is watching us play, and wants to play with themselves (man or woman), but to do so in the table room, where no play takes place is uncalled for. I did mention it to the bartender who said it would be passed on.

 

When we went to go play pool, we were there all of 5 minutes, and then we have 5 single men standing around the table. They kept their junk in their pants, but it was like a swarm who was hoping the honey pot would be offered. We left the club and wont go back when we return to that city. There are other clubs in that town we will visit.

 

Needless to say, we are 110% sure there are some great places out there that allow single men (like the club in KC), but will make sure to only go to the clubs that say they have limits for singles, and are mainly for couples.

[Guest screaminggood]

Our usual club allows "limited" single men...again, I don't know what number that means. They do a good job of ensuring that the guys are well-mannered, clean, etc. But what I don't like about it is that they heavily favor their "usual studs." The same guys get in all the time....and we like variety in our playmates, and that includes single men! Hmmm...

[lovinher 505]

There's respectfully watching and then there is creepy watching. We had a guy follow us around for an hour. Finally we went to one of the couches where he stood 3 ft away from us with his tongue hanging out, literally drooling and pounding away about 120 beats per minute. The guy looked like a cartoon.

[Galanga 249]

I don't know what that means? What is "respectful" watching? Is that watching as if he's at a college lecture? Or at an opera? You were at a horny place with a horny couple doing a horny act in front of a horny guy. What do you expect? Instead of being grossed out by someone's arousal, why don't you have fun with it? The lurkers can be a good source of excitement. They are horny beyond words, and you can have a lot of fun playing with that kind of desperation. Everyone can be a source of fun ... if you're fun. The lurkers are unique. If you're this grossed out (as you implied in your original post) over someone who's not Brad Pitt jerking off, then perhaps a sex club is not your thing.

[Chicup 41]

To each there own when it comes to sex. Galanga you are 100% correct, and yet 100% wrong.

 

We enjoy swing clubs and yet we don't enjoy creepy men jerking off. We would not fit in the desperate adult theater crowd, because we are not desperate. As a man I have to be turned on to perform, and a woman bent over a theater seat, dripping with 10 other mens jizz wouldn't do it for me even if there was no such thing as an STD.

 

The issue would only be a problem if I insisted no one likes getting off like that, obviously 10 other guys didn't mind.

 

We like fucking other couples in our age range and attractiveness level and thats ok, others don't care aboult that and that's ok too. From what I understand those types of environments still exist in adult bookstores, and they can have that. We can have our "upscale" clubs as well.

[Galanga 249]

Chicup, I understand and appreciate your point. What I disagree with is the pretentiousness as exemplified by the language. When you spoke of your activities you used words like "upscale", "attractive", and "performance", but when you spoke of someone else's enjoyment your words included "creepy", "STD", "jizz", and "desperate". In my view there is nothing "downscale" about a woman who enjoys the intensity of the adult theater scene. Just FYI - outside of the "lifestyle" the general public view swinging as low-life behavior and doesn't think there's a such thing as an "upscale" swinger. You should be above their way of thinking.

[Chicup 41]

I was simply copying your language...

 

There was no pretense of being “upscale” or “sophisticated”.

 

I found it kinda funny because most swingers clubs are pretty seedy.

[junglecouple 127]

I was simply copying your language...

 

 

 

I found it kinda funny because most swingers clubs are pretty seedy.

 

Really? and how many have you attended.. I assume very very many since you take the liberty of saying "most swingers clubs are pretty seedy"..

Don't get out much do ya'?

I can say MOST of the ones I'VE ACTUALLY ATTENDED were nice.. I sure wouldn't color them all with one brush..

[funcoupledayton 2,708]

We have been to four clubs. Two were very nice, one was pretty good, but a little dated and very smokey, and one was seedy!! I know of two other clubs in our area that I have heard are a bit seedy. So I think Chicup is kind of on target in general. Probably depends on your area of the country.

[Galanga 249]

Single men bring an exciting "edge" to everything. I love having them around. Even couples who don't play with single men can appreciate the charge they put in the atmosphere.

 

In Buffalo NY there is an adult theater where single men can mingle in an almost pitch black dark room with couples/women. On a typical Saturday night there are 8-10 couples, maybe 2-4 single women, and a bunch of single men ... and a lot of cumming. The management limits the number of single men allowed in the room at one time, so it never gets overwhelming. The near total darkness takes away the irrational stigma many swinger women feel over getting "it" from a single man. People do things in the dark they wouldn't even want their spouses to know about in the light.

 

Now I heard through the grapevine that they're about to open a new underground sex pen in Western New York with dark rooms and gloryholes. I understand the single men will be in a separate area than the couples/women, but they can "interact" through something called "fuckspots", which I believe is a wide gloryhole with a bed in front of it on the female side, so a woman can lay down and straddle her legs around the gloryhole.

 

This is a great time to be a woman into this stuff. I only regret that these kinds of places weren't around when I was young and hot.

[tribbles 490]

Galanga,

 

You are still hot.

 

 

People who don't wanna be watched by others, should be playing where others don't get to watch. If people are allowed to watch, they may touch themselves.

That seems to make sense to me.

[DigginIt 1,132]

Really? and how many have you attended.. I assume very very many since you take the liberty of saying "most swingers clubs are pretty seedy"..

 

I agree with Chicup, most are all seedy and by seedy, I mean dirty, floors not swept/mopped, smoky, strange smells in the furniture (can't imagine what those are) stains on the walls, etc.

 

Yes, sheets were clean and changed as soon as you walked out but it doesn't change the fact that generally speaking they are not a room at the Hilton...or even the Best Western.

 

I can say MOST of the ones I'VE ACTUALLY ATTENDED were nice..

 

It all depends on what you feel is 'nice.' I think Ruths Chris makes awesome steaks, you may like Outback and be in the middle or be happy at Golden Coral. To each their own.

[junglecouple 127]

I agree with Chicup, most are all seedy and by seedy, I mean dirty, floors not swept/mopped, smoky, strange smells in the furniture (can't imagine what those are) stains on the walls, etc.

 

Yes, sheets were clean and changed as soon as you walked out but it doesn't change the fact that generally speaking they are not a room at the Hilton...or even the Best Western.

 

 

 

It all depends on what you feel is 'nice.' I think Ruths Chris makes awesome steaks, you may like Outback and be in the middle or be happy at Golden Coral. To each their own.

 

True. You are correct..To me it sounded like painting all clubs with one brush.. I HAVE been to some that were dumps.. but it wasn't a majority.. uh.. so far..

[DigginIt 1,132]

True. You are correct..To me it sounded like painting all clubs with one brush.. I HAVE been to some that were dumps.. but it wasn't a majority.. uh.. so far..

 

Oh, I agree and I've even been to blame for using words such as...them, they, everyone, far too often.

 

When we walk into a club, they can be really nice but it's the little details when you start to look closely. The one thing that makes a club feel seedy more often than anything else is the clientele.

 

Honestly, we don't mind seedy as long as we feel safe.

[Guest screaminggood]

There was one that was recently closed down in Dallas...We were going to try it for the first time, decided not to when we saw the men were being frisked for weapons before entering!

 

That's beyond my range of "seedy!"

[unibull_arena 15]

I read the original post several times now looking for the "creepy" part. I'm sure the couple was indeed creeped out, but I don't understand why.

 

As for single guys in the clubs, I cut my teeth in this lifestyle at a time when there were no swingers clubs. "Swinger" wasn't even a word back then, and "Lifestyle" referred to income. Couples into group sex would arrange house parties through ads in the newspaper using hidden messages about selling a “used silver plated brass trombone with a missing valve”. But a common place to meet strangers for anonymous play was the adult theater. Adult theaters were the first “swingers clubs”.

 

But unlike today’s swingers clubs, adult theaters were extremely sexually charged. There was no pretense of being “upscale” or “sophisticated”. They were sleazy places with sleazy people, and the only reason you would be there is to get your rocks off on the bodies of others. You didn’t go there to be social or to see how many “attractive” couples would hit on you. The darkness was an important part. Couples-friendly adult theaters deliberately turned the projector very dim.

 

Obviously single men were a huge part of the adult theater scene. If you went to an adult theater for sex, being surrounded by single men was the norm. The adult theater I went to was called the Queen Anne Theater in NJ. We would drive over an hour each way for 40 minutes at the theater. It was sexually intense to an extreme … and the single men were a big part of the intensity. The Queen Anne had a main floor where the couples usually played. On a typical Saturday afternoon there would be 5-10 couples grouped together on the main floor. The balcony was almost completely lightless and was for very “daring” couples that wanted a gangbang. The front row seats in the balcony had the backs removed so that a woman can lay face down over the seat and “serve” her backside to the crowd. These seats were affectionately nicknamed “rape stands”.

 

I remember the excitement of laying over a rape stand and being literally saturated with cum inside and out, then retreating back to the couples area to “calm down”. The sneakiness was a huge part of the excitement. It wasn’t legal to have sex in an adult theater, so everything was done in the dark in secret and in a clandestine manner. You didn’t slap ass and scream “whos ya daddy”. In fact, there was little to no talking at all, and no disrobing. Women wore short skirts with nothing under, or loose fitting sun dresses that could be easily pulled up for the deed, then quickly back down like nothing ever happened. Everything was done under the cloths. The sneakiness added tremendously to the excitement. Management was required to remove anyone engaging in sex, but they looked the other way as long as you didn't make it obvious. Having full penetrative sex with a stranger without making it obvious was sexy beyond words.

 

The legal age to enter an adult theater was 21. When I started I was not yet 21, and had to be snuck in through the back door. Even that was exciting. I remember literally panting with arousal as I waited in the alleyway for my boyfriend to open the door and sneak me in.

 

Swingers clubs started when the AIDS scare hit as an “upscale” alternative to the sleazy venues. Swingers clubs caused an enormous loss of excitement. Swinging became more social than sexual. Getting off took a backseat to popularity. When swingers clubs started allowing single men I felt great. I thought finally the sneaky thrills might come back. Unfortunately it didn’t. Instead couples clung to the sociology of swinging over the sexuality. It’s not surprising that adult theaters are starting to make a comeback. In Toronto, where I live, adult theaters allow couples for free, and one even has a “couple’s room” with a gloryhole in the wall separating the “gangbang” room.

 

The bottom line is simple. I love extremely horny cock. I love the feverish desperation that curses some men. Social swingers don’t get it and perhaps view this thrill as “creepy”. That’s ok. To each her own. I would never criticize anyone for their form of fun. But I do miss the excitement of sleaze. I miss the thrill of getting off big without having to prove to myself that this is “upscale” behavior.

Amazing post. Thank you so much for sharing.

[Playful1 434]

I dont mind if they are there as long as they dont out number the women by too much. That said, I only don't mind them if they are polite and respectful. I actually don't care if they stand to the side and jerk off, just don't do it 2ft from my face.

 

I've had positive and negative experiences with singles of both genders at parties (the single women can be just as bad)....I think the key is keeping the right ratio and not being afraid of speaking out (to them and/or management) if they violate a rule or get out of hand.

[Galanga 249]

I really don’t understand why some couples think a male orgasm (or quest thereof) is creepy unless it comes from an “ordained” male. There are many ways a woman can get thrilled from sex. One is purely physical. For one-dimensional couples the muscular black stud who can fuck for an hour without cumming is perfect. But for some of us, the physical pleasure pales in comparison to the psychological/emotional fireworks. The sleaze of desperation is exciting. I don’t find it creepy at all. The insanely horny wormy guy with a thousand insecurities who jerks off on your leg thinking you’re unaware of it targets a rape fantasy that can be a huge kick for some women. And places like the back room of a swingers club or a dark corner of an adult theater provide safe, secure environments for a woman to indulge her rape fantasy.

 

The feeling of falling is fun and exciting … if done on a rollercoaster. But no one would find it fun to jump off a building. The same principle holds for rape fantasies. A “creep” (to use your vernacular) who steals an orgasm by sneaking a quick poke up the back of your skirt while you’re busy in a swingers clutch, or who jerks off of your butt cheek while you’re distracted with something else, is REAL rape … and it is thrilling for a woman with a rape fetish because it’s real … and safe when done in the right environment.

 

If you’re a woman who gets off on this type of thing, there are numerous venues for your outlet. A swingers club on singles night is one, albeit one of the most tame. However, if you need Don Juan in order to not feel creeped out, go on couples only night … or look on Craigslist for one. Don’t go to a place that’s designed for “cumslut fetishes” or “rape fetishes”, and then complain that the guys were too horny for you. But I’m glad I’m me because such “creeps” are a dime a dozen … and they really get me off. In fact, with all this talk of such things, I think I’ll go to the Sunday night gangbang tonight.

[Chicup 41]

The insanely horny wormy guy with a thousand insecurities who jerks off on your leg thinking you’re unaware of it targets a rape fantasy that can be a huge kick for some women.

 

Creepy is of course a subjective evaluation but the way I see it, isn't that this guy isn't creepy but that you LIKE creepy. We don't care for creepy but I see us as "vanilla swingers" so that is to be expected.