Party fouls / forced breaking of rules common in swinging?

[lovelakelife 25]

OK, just wanted to get a bit of feedback on a recent "experience"...... We attended a NYE hotel party and had a blast! Met a couple AND a S BiF, so all 5 of us headed back to our room. I asked each if they were opposed to me recording our adventure, to which all were more than happy to oblige ( love to enjoy looking back on it after, and between adventures). Anyhow, moving forward.... Before anything more than some clothes began to come off between the 3 ladies, both myself ( mr ) and the wife stated we were a soft swap couple ( we do enjoy full- but ONLY after we have all become comfortable and at least a bit of a friendship developed...sometimes we do move a bit slow, but to each his or her own) and the statement was acknowledged.

 

So things are progressing nicely with the ladies, and a nice added surprise of the S Bi F is a squireter- to which neither my wife or myself have up to this point had the priveledge to enjoy, so needless to say we were quite excited and having a great time! The other husband then moves behind my wife for insertion, and as she feels him entering, she turns slightly and pulls away and says, again, "I'm not ready for that, were not that far along" and he says no problem, and the other two ladies acknowledge by saying " it's not a problem, every one has to feel comfortable, and don't worry about it" as one would expect. My wife also added that we also use safe sex when we feel comfortable enough.

 

OK...moving on.... I am now face burried and my wife is pulled up from the other female to give the husband oral, to which she complies. after a while he gently pushes her down on her back at the foot of the bed ( I was at the top, on my knees on the floor giving a solid class in oral pleasures to his wife and the S Bi F - I am not aware of this because of what I was doing) and gets on his knees between her legs and pulls her legs up and again, tries to insert, she says " i'm not ready for that yet" and he then goes down on her for a few minutes. The S Bi F then begins to squirt and every one is excited again, and laughing, enjoying this new experience. The husband again pulls her legs way up to her shoulders and inserts, and begins screwing her- she told me afterward she was caught in the moment, and not even really thinking when it happened, and after he was in, just kinda started riding the waves of pleasure in the moment.

 

About then is when I was just finishing the other wifes oral O and then felt the bed violently shaking- picked up my head and saw what was happening. I made a comment " I guess soft swinging is out the door" and laughed, but became so out of my comfort zone that I completely lost my erection. I tried to not make any "scene" and just went back to doing oral ( what else cann you do when you have taffy between your legs!) They went for a while and she finally said ok, thats enough, and got off the bed and grabbed me. I had made a comment or two about being "over stimulated" and not getting hard as I wished. My wife performed oral on me and got me part way hard - enough for insertion into her. We screwed on the bed and I believe I did pop in her, but to be totally honest, at this point my head was spinning a bit over the forced broken rule- actually two rules! also did not use protection on my wife ( which she later became VERY upset at herself for! and vowed off ever getting caught up in the heat of the passion again....that's been dealt with and we are totally fine, but thats a side story for another time).

 

So after I climb off my wife, both other ladies try oral on me and everything they can think of to get me to rise to the occasion, mean while Mr. mannors is doing my wife again on the other bed, she told me she thought since it had happened already it wasn't that much of a deal, and she was actually also STILL in the freak heat of passion like she gets when she's REALLY turned on ( ie: squirter heated us all up!). However, I was just plain done...nothing downstairs at all. My wife came back over to me and got me semi hard at best, but not enough to do anything with, so we called it a night. I need to mention, I DID NOT have any animosities (sp?) or issues, or even feeling one way or another at this point, more just REALLY embarrassed I couldnt perform- was all that was in my head at the time.

 

After we ( all 5 of us ) ate at the next door breakfast restaurant, we parted ways. My wife and I screwed for 3 more hours- never going soft and no issues with not getting hard at all! The next day my mind began to process what had happened, and we talked ( my wife and I ). She felt REALLY, REALLY bad over what had happened, both the deed and the fact it contributed to me not performing, and also stated that she had perceived a "look" I gave her at one point, just before he actually entered her- to mean I was OK with what ever was happening. After we had watched the video ( what we actually did manage to get on video- poor quality and dark...but better than nothing), she then realized the husband did NOT use protection, and actually got a bit scarred and worried!

 

The group wanted to play again the next night, but my wife and I agreed beforehand, IF we did it was ONLY to be SOFT SWAP!!! PERIOD! At the before party he was getting quite intoxicated AND almost "pushy" and when my wife denied his advances, he almost began to pout! His wife was fine, and is a great person. The evening ended and my wife and I decided that given his state he would more than likely be even MORE forcefull and demanding, and cause us to go back to breaking rules again, to which we BOTH agreed we needed to back up a step to our base rules- since we determined my performance anxiety was directly related to my wife and the husband having full swap, when I was in no way shape or form preparred for, and let my internal stressors run wild and shut me down. Thats why we have ALWAYS had "friends first", soft swap till all are comfortable and ready ( the group only progresses as fast as the slowest person- is our thoughts), and IF full becomes everyones desire, SAFE SEX is a MUST for us.

 

So is this type of couple ( husband primarily ) a common issue with hotel club parties? I should also mention this was only our second hotel party and our FIRST connection at such an event. Feedback welcome, even if you feel we/ I were wrong or handled it inapproprietly (sp?), or if you have had a similar exp, or feel we actually did something right, out of a potentially bad exp, for our first swap outside of friendship - at a club party. Thanx in advance to all of you wonderful folks!

[DigginIt 1,132]

The other husband then moves behind my wife for insertion, and as she feels him entering, she turns slightly and pulls away and says, again, "I'm not ready for that, were not that far along" and he says no problem

 

Okay, "I'm not ready for that, were not that far along" doesn't say to me "not at all tonight" it just says try again in a few minutes. Please clarify how you told them because what should have been communicated is "We are just up from some oral play and FF play" and then if he would have tried he would have been overstepping and disrespectful.

 

My wife also added that we also use safe sex when we feel comfortable enough......... After we had watched the video ( what we actually did manage to get on video- poor quality and dark...but better than nothing), she then realized the husband did NOT use protection, and actually got a bit scarred and worried!

 

If you are sure he heard you then this is very disrespectful. My wife and I were playing the other night and the woman stopped in the middle of the play and asked my wife and I if we were comfortable going bareback. That is what we expect. Even if he had not heard you, he should have asked and not assumed it was okay.

 

Also, not to put it all off on him. Swinging is two-way. You have an obligation to pay attention at all times meaning your wife should have made sure he put the rubber on as well.

 

I made a comment " I guess soft swinging is out the door" and laughed, but became so out of my comfort zone that I completely lost my erection.

 

You just basically said it was okay. You made light of the situation. I don't care if he was 6 seconds from cumming I'd be like "what the fuck are you doing?" but that goes back to the first comment about you not making it very clear at the start based on how you worded things.

 

As far as the loss of erection. Something happened you were not prepared for and it took root. Don't sweat that and don't be embarrassed. You handled it very well by continuing and there are many people that would not have and made a big deal out of their issue and it would have been drama central so bravo to you on that one.

 

 

at this point my head was spinning a bit over the forced broken rule- actually two rules! also did not use protection on my wife ( which she later became VERY upset at herself for! and vowed off ever getting caught up in the heat of the passion again....that's been dealt with and we are totally fine, but thats a side story for another time).

 

You are both adults..."getting caught up in the heat of the passion" is an excuse. Learn from your mistakes but ultimately you will potentially run across very aggressive people and you can't exceed your boundaries because one or both of you are afraid to speak up. If you can't do this, don't swing. Seriously.

 

She felt REALLY, REALLY bad over what had happened, both the deed and the fact it contributed to me not performing, and also stated that she had perceived a "look" I gave her at one point, just before he actually entered her- to mean I was OK with what ever was happening.

 

Again, you basically told her and everyone in the room it was okay when you made light of the situation. Chalk it up to experience and don't let it get either of you down.

 

Thats why we have ALWAYS had "friends first", soft swap till all are comfortable and ready ( the group only progresses as fast as the slowest person- is our thoughts), and IF full becomes everyones desire, SAFE SEX is a MUST for us.

 

Be honest, tell them that you two went a little further then you were both comfortable with and that you prefer to use condoms because you don't know when your wifes Herpes may flare up....just kidding.

 

It's never to late to take things back down a notch.

 

So is this type of couple ( husband primarily ) a common issue with hotel club parties?

 

I think it was a accumulation of misunderstandings complicated by just being new. My advice may have been a bit blunt in places but what's most important is that you two seem to have a good grip on your emotions for the most part and have talked about it. Just be more clear in your communications with others and if lines are crossed then they are the ones that should be embarrassed, not you when you raise the "WTF" flag.

 

I'm sure you will get more advice and feel free to clarify on the communication if you did feel like they were aware.

[TNT 1,155]

Getting caught up in the moment can be a bitch at times (Ted and I have both been there, done that). It's how we handle it that determines whether the experience will remain a bad memory or turned into a learning experience where we can say, "that sucked, let's not do that again", forgive ourselves and move on.

 

You and your wife stated your rules. The other man didn't follow them, shame on him.

 

The one thing I saw that you and your wife could have done differently is instead of her saying, I'm not ready for that and not yet, would have been to say, "No, we said we were soft swap only" and you backing her up. By saying I'm not ready and not yet, I can see where the other man could have gotten the wrong message and thought it was okay to proceed, and your comment of soft swap being out the door and your wife letting him fuck her a second time probably reaffirmed that in his mind. Hindsight is 20/20 so don't beat yourselves up over this.

 

I think you two handle it rather well. You didn't cause a scene, you both acknowledged what happened, you talked about it and I don't detect any blame being assigned to either of you...good job!

 

From what I'm gathering out of your post, the only two things that really happened were you had a full swap without really knowing the man...not nearly as big a deal as if you had never swapped before and this happened, and no protection was used...yeah, I'd be pissed about that one too, but here again it's our responsibility to see this happens as well as the other person's. I also feel you are a bit upset at yourself because you couldn't maintain an erection and have your fun with the other ladies, especially since your wife fucked the other man.

 

I still feel you two did just fine and are going to be just fine.

 

As to is this common at hotel parties...yes and no. You will always find those that will try and push the limits of others no matter what venue you are at. With experience you learn how to deal with the pushy ones, forget them and move on to those who are more respectful and fun.

 

 

Teresa

[funcoupledayton 2,708]

 

as she feels him entering, she turns slightly and pulls away and says, again, "I'm not ready for that, were not that far along" and he says no problem .... tries to insert, she says " i'm not ready for that yet" and he then goes down on her for a few minutes.

 

It does sound like the other husband was pushy and a jerk. But, the way your wife was declining was confusing. She needs to say, "I'm not having intercourse with you tonight." The "I'm not ready," to me says, "I'm not wet enough or I want to come first." I think though if you say only soft swap at the start then they should respect that.

 

Heat of the moment and alcohol does cause people to forget. This wkend I told my friend I couldn't have sex b/c I had surgery recently. Less than an hour later he was pulling my underwear off. I just said, "I can't" He said, "oh I forgot," and we went on to have a great time. So I think you have to expect this type of thing to happen and just be clear about your limits.

 

To me not using a condom is a separate issue so here is my experience with that. Condoms are our one rule. We do get pressure to play without them sometimes. Girls often try to jump right on my husband. I always watch to make sure the guys put one on or do it myself. In our area many people play bareback so we do have to be a little forceful about it. Fortunately the only time I broke this rule was consensual (still stupid). I'd be really angry if someone didn't use a condom when I specifically told them to.

 

I'm glad you were able to talk about the situation and move forward. The time I broke the rule, coincidentally my husband did at the same time, so we couldn't really be mad at eachother. We talked about it and agreed on the importance of using condoms.

 

Another time my husband broke the rule because he thought I was not using a condom (I was) so he wasn't going to worry about it. That was a major problem for me. We had a long talk about personal responsibility and it hasn't been an issue since.

 

The loss of your erection is normal with the situation. When I saw that my husband wasn't using a condom I was shocked and completely done. If I had a penis it would have inverted! Try not to worry about it.

[ALilOEverything 901]

Hindsight is always 20/20 so chalked it up to a learning experience. Clear communication is always important and make sure rules are known BEFORE getting back to the room. Let them know this is an absolute rule. Quite often couples will change their minds in the heat of the moment and some couples will count on that. If they know any expectation of full swap is a deal breaker, they may then just move on. If you wait until later it creates more awkward situations and may allow for miscommunication like what may have happened above (personally, I think he knew, he was just hoping she'd change her mind).

 

This is where meeting couples are parties are a little harder. Online most people put their rules right in their profile and not as much discussion needs to happen when planning a meet. When meeting at a party you have no idea of rules, boundaries, experience or anything else. This is where you need to be really comfortable asking the question "so what are you into, do you have any rules?". Know their rules fully and make sure they know yours fully before proceeding. This conversation needs to happen as soon as the four way connection is recognized, prevents anyone from wasting their time.

 

If you've clearly explained your rules ahead of time and the lines are still crossed then it's time to say "Hey we had a good time but we just aren't ready for this level of fun, we're going to call it a night". Head right out and be done with them.

 

Is this issue common at parties? I've been to a lot of parties, after being in the same situation I can now recognize who's going to be pushy and be more apt to break rules before getting back to the room. Most of the time we end up with very respectful people who don't want their boundaries crossed any more than we want ours crossed.

[tribbles 490]

It's not super common but it's not uncommon from our experience.

 

We have had females just as pushy and as likely to jump on his hard cock, bareback, without asking, as we have had males do things we were not ready for even after saying 'not yet' or 'not today'.

 

If others do not share your rules, it is easy for others to break your rules cuz your rules are not their rules. They get turned on and it's only their rules they remember - at least part of the time.

 

We solved it by getting rid of a lot of rules over time. Now sometimes it's us people have to remind of their rules.....it's not that we don't wanna follow your rules, but it's just so easy to forget.....

 

I also think making sure people knew soft swap for the entire play time was all you wanted, might have helped but even then....get turned on, body wants penetration, male or female may go for what their body yearns for, forgetting you said 'no'.

 

If I'm not wanting to be penetrated by a certain guy and he nudges to put it in, I'll hand him off to someone who will let him put it in! I understand for some their brains are not 100% there every moment and just move out of range.....

[JB 140]

Share the video or it didn’t happen!!!

[lovelakelife 25]

Than k you VERY much for all the feedback! Both pos. and neg. Thank you! Seems as though you guys share our exact sentiments....

1) we need to be more clear and stern on our rules- no matter what the outcomes will end up being ( ie end the night)

2) absolutely learn to read pushy people better BEFORE it gets to that point

3) No mater what, where, when, how, why etc... NO BARE BACK!

We are not newbies ( @ 15 years exp, but ALL of that exp has been with couples/ singles we had formed a friendship wiuth first, so the only "new" thing to us was the pushyness and forcefullness of meeting at a party atmosphere. We never once had "issues" between us...never had, our love and relationship is FAR stronger than the LS! If we had problems, be it communicating, or trusting we would be SO out of the LS, but that is not the case. This was just basicaly us being new to the club scene/ and not REALLY knowing others before we play...more kinda looking for other experiences and things to watch out for. Will we go back? HELL YEAH! Will we run into this situation again? HELL YEAH...BUT we will be much clearer up front, during and at any other time needed! Will I have an "anxiety issue again? I'm very sure of that...but hopefully the people we have chosen to be with will be as understanding as you guys seem to be....which I will assume is more the majority than minority in the LS. Thanx a million ya'll! D & K

[lovelakelife 25]

Share the video or it didn’t happen!!!

 

HA HA HA! no way! As we wouldn't want our trust violated, we will NOT violate anothers trust. As I told them before the camera turned on, it was for our private pleasure only, and would not ever be shared. But did get the humor in the post! Thanx! LOL

[JustAskJulie 2,595]

No it's not the norm - at any kind of party, but they jerks do exist. That said, as others have already pointed out you do have be VERY clear about your boundaries and never leave room for doubt. Unfortunately, it sounds like you left a lot of room for him to keep coming back. Your "no"'s were really much more "later"'s at best. Just take it as a learning experience and go forward with your ground rules intact and a new knowledge of how to handle the situation should it arise again.

[lovelakelife 25]

Thanx, Julie. That's exactly how we have handled this. There will never be room for mis-interpureting (sp?) again. It's not something that has deturred us or made us think bad of everyone, just more guarded and carefull in WHO we pick, and MUCH more firm on crossing OUR and whoever else's ground rules. As far as WE go, no issues, never will be- we communicate far too well between eachh other- if only we could have conveyed our level of communication better to the other Mr! LOL. Thanx again to everyone. We are looking forward to our next adventure!

[Nutter42 0]

I must put my input as well about five years ago me and my wife went swinging we had loads of rules set for the party and by no means was we ready for what my wife did we both had a drink and then she drank more and more later on at the party we had a few couples Chatting to us both then my wife walked of on her own I just assumed she was going to the lady’s toilet and then I realised maybe 15 minutes later she was coming back I manage to find her in a room with two single men having full blown sex she looked over and then jumped up quick and stopped and realised I was annoyed we had a massive fight on the way home I told her that’s the end of swinging and one mention of it again and I tell her family and shame her I was annoyed and decided to stop having ex with her so she understand what was wrong with breaking rules now five years later she caught me cheating and realised I been sleeping around for five years how she went thru my phone and found tinder accounts and fabswingers but because I was so annoyed I actually went swinging without her knowing and slept with loads of women in the swingers  party’s and  did I have fun yes but it was because I had no morals for what she did  to me I then got into a big argument with my wife saying she messed-up but I went time to far as to hurt her I then asked for a divorce I said I lost my respect for so called wife and that she broke all aspects of a marriage she declined it saying were even and can we get back on with life we both lucky no kids or we have no house owned we both rent together her wages are very low I think I had the upper hand as for swinging never again I still feel I broke her which I didn’t mean but at least she won’t ask again and if I catch her cheat she’s out on her arse the only thing I hated was I did belittle her and after a way it will affect you she was on depression tablets for a while she didn’t even want sex which was unusual 

[Idahocouple6969 294]

Wow! Has anyone ever kicked you in n the nuts, really hard? If not they should.

 

[Numex 2,415]

39 minutes ago, Nutter42 said:

I must put my input as well about five years ago ... for a while she didn’t even want sex which was unusual 

The most amazing thing about this post is that it is one single sentence.

 

41 minutes ago, Nutter42 said:

then I realised maybe 15 minutes later she was coming back I manage to find her in a room with two single men having full blown sex

If it had been my wife, I would have been proud of her, turned on, and wanting her more than ever.  But then, we don't have rules.

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

2 hours ago, Numex said:

The most amazing thing about this post is that it is one single sentence.

 

 

The new member is channeling James Joyce.

[njbm 2,870]

4 hours ago, Idahocouple6969 said:

Wow! Has anyone ever kicked you in n the nuts, really hard? If not they should.

 

That’s how he got the name Nutter. 

[10thBadger 25]

On 1/4/2012 at 2:42 AM, lovelakelife said:

OK, just wanted to get a bit of feedback on a recent "experience"...... We attended a NYE hotel party and had a blast! Met a couple AND a S BiF, so all 5 of us headed back to our room. I asked each if they were opposed to me recording our adventure, to which all were more than happy to oblige ( love to enjoy looking back on it after, and between adventures). Anyhow, moving forward.... Before anything more than some clothes began to come off between the 3 ladies, both myself ( mr ) and the wife stated we were a soft swap couple ( we do enjoy full- but ONLY after we have all become comfortable and at least a bit of a friendship developed...sometimes we do move a bit slow, but to each his or her own) and the statement was acknowledged.

 

So things are progressing nicely with the ladies, and a nice added surprise of the S Bi F is a squireter- to which neither my wife or myself have up to this point had the priveledge to enjoy, so needless to say we were quite excited and having a great time! The other husband then moves behind my wife for insertion, and as she feels him entering, she turns slightly and pulls away and says, again, "I'm not ready for that, were not that far along" and he says no problem, and the other two ladies acknowledge by saying " it's not a problem, every one has to feel comfortable, and don't worry about it" as one would expect. My wife also added that we also use safe sex when we feel comfortable enough.

 

OK...moving on.... I am now face burried and my wife is pulled up from the other female to give the husband oral, to which she complies. after a while he gently pushes her down on her back at the foot of the bed ( I was at the top, on my knees on the floor giving a solid class in oral pleasures to his wife and the S Bi F - I am not aware of this because of what I was doing) and gets on his knees between her legs and pulls her legs up and again, tries to insert, she says " i'm not ready for that yet" and he then goes down on her for a few minutes. The S Bi F then begins to squirt and every one is excited again, and laughing, enjoying this new experience. The husband again pulls her legs way up to her shoulders and inserts, and begins screwing her- she told me afterward she was caught in the moment, and not even really thinking when it happened, and after he was in, just kinda started riding the waves of pleasure in the moment.

 

About then is when I was just finishing the other wifes oral O and then felt the bed violently shaking- picked up my head and saw what was happening. I made a comment " I guess soft swinging is out the door" and laughed, but became so out of my comfort zone that I completely lost my erection. I tried to not make any "scene" and just went back to doing oral ( what else cann you do when you have taffy between your legs!) They went for a while and she finally said ok, thats enough, and got off the bed and grabbed me. I had made a comment or two about being "over stimulated" and not getting hard as I wished. My wife performed oral on me and got me part way hard - enough for insertion into her. We screwed on the bed and I believe I did pop in her, but to be totally honest, at this point my head was spinning a bit over the forced broken rule- actually two rules! also did not use protection on my wife ( which she later became VERY upset at herself for! and vowed off ever getting caught up in the heat of the passion again....that's been dealt with and we are totally fine, but thats a side story for another time).

 

So after I climb off my wife, both other ladies try oral on me and everything they can think of to get me to rise to the occasion, mean while Mr. mannors is doing my wife again on the other bed, she told me she thought since it had happened already it wasn't that much of a deal, and she was actually also STILL in the freak heat of passion like she gets when she's REALLY turned on ( ie: squirter heated us all up!). However, I was just plain done...nothing downstairs at all. My wife came back over to me and got me semi hard at best, but not enough to do anything with, so we called it a night. I need to mention, I DID NOT have any animosities (sp?) or issues, or even feeling one way or another at this point, more just REALLY embarrassed I couldnt perform- was all that was in my head at the time.

 

After we ( all 5 of us ) ate at the next door breakfast restaurant, we parted ways. My wife and I screwed for 3 more hours- never going soft and no issues with not getting hard at all! The next day my mind began to process what had happened, and we talked ( my wife and I ). She felt REALLY, REALLY bad over what had happened, both the deed and the fact it contributed to me not performing, and also stated that she had perceived a "look" I gave her at one point, just before he actually entered her- to mean I was OK with what ever was happening. After we had watched the video ( what we actually did manage to get on video- poor quality and dark...but better than nothing), she then realized the husband did NOT use protection, and actually got a bit scarred and worried!

 

The group wanted to play again the next night, but my wife and I agreed beforehand, IF we did it was ONLY to be SOFT SWAP!!! PERIOD! At the before party he was getting quite intoxicated AND almost "pushy" and when my wife denied his advances, he almost began to pout! His wife was fine, and is a great person. The evening ended and my wife and I decided that given his state he would more than likely be even MORE forcefull and demanding, and cause us to go back to breaking rules again, to which we BOTH agreed we needed to back up a step to our base rules- since we determined my performance anxiety was directly related to my wife and the husband having full swap, when I was in no way shape or form preparred for, and let my internal stressors run wild and shut me down. Thats why we have ALWAYS had "friends first", soft swap till all are comfortable and ready ( the group only progresses as fast as the slowest person- is our thoughts), and IF full becomes everyones desire, SAFE SEX is a MUST for us.

 

So is this type of couple ( husband primarily ) a common issue with hotel club parties? I should also mention this was only our second hotel party and our FIRST connection at such an event. Feedback welcome, even if you feel we/ I were wrong or handled it inapproprietly (sp?), or if you have had a similar exp, or feel we actually did something right, out of a potentially bad exp, for our first swap outside of friendship - at a club party. Thanx in advance to all of you wonderful folks!

I don’t understand your brother. If my wife broke the rules like that twice. The second time I would’ve got dressed and left her ass right there in the room with him. If she’s going to disrespect you like that and then not use protection. The last thing I would want to do is stick my junk inside of her after she had some other guys junk that she just met and could give me a disease. There’s no way it would’ve been calm other than the fact of me calmly walking out of the room and having her try to find me as I’m driving off. If she’s going to disrespect me like that or should I say disrespect you like that, she deserves disrespect right back to her.  Maybe I just have a military mindset haven’t been in the military for 26 years but rules are rules. 
 

my wife is right next to me and she said after he did it the first time she would not have touched him again because obviously he will not follow the rules. My wife also said that after she returned to you to finish you off being her husband, and then returning to this guy and doing it again bareback with this other man that you just met and breaking the rule twice in one evening. My wife says that she deserves nothing but your wrath/anger/disrespect. She doesn’t deserve to be treated in a nice way because the second time she just said I’m gonna do what the hell I wanna do and it doesn’t matter what my husband thinks .

 

I don’t know how you men have that much patience, I just refuse to be disrespected by my wife and my wife will definitely not let me disrespect her in anyway and I never have. This is just an amazing story

[lcmim 1,082]

Badger... "brother"???

 

You two are very judgmental for any swinging. It probably works for you in a traditional, possessive, monogamous arrangement. I am sure that we all wish you well in that.

 

PLEASE  stay far, far away from the lifestyle community though.

[24fun4u 8]

Right on Badger!!! He should of busted his wife bitch in the head for disobeying him. Stupid c**%. He should of taught her a lesson, and then made her do the dishes, after she fixes you a sandwich and gets you a beer. She gots to know her place, F-N-A!