LFM2 1,482 Posted April 2, 2012 Desdemona1980 said: Hand Hygiene Compliance Rates in the United States?A One-Year Multicenter Collaboration Using Product/Volume Usage Measurement and Feedback Well, that's enough to make me gag. Quote Share this post Link to post
Desdemona1980 297 Posted April 3, 2012 As with anything, it will vary from hospital to hospital, just making a point that because someone is a doctor does not mean they will be any safer to bareback with than anyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post
DigginIt 1,132 Posted April 3, 2012 As with anything, it will vary from hospital to hospital, just making a point that because someone is a doctor does not mean they will be any safer to bareback with than anyone else. And obviously, not wash after shaking it twice! Quote Share this post Link to post
Desdemona1980 297 Posted April 3, 2012 DigginIt said: And obviously, not wash after shaking it twice! Damn you made me spit my Pepsi! Quote Share this post Link to post
Coupleerotic22 1,419 Posted April 4, 2012 It's those dirty nurses....just kidding. Watch it, buster!! I personally love dirty nurses. It's just all in how you want to define dirty. Quote Share this post Link to post
drinnt 201 Posted April 11, 2012 Hi Dont.Stop, My wife and I have a couple in our lives that we have known since 2003. We made an agreement with them in 2008 to go bareback with JUST them. If we play with any other couples (full swap) we have agreed to use protection OR have a conversation FIRST. We take the bareback thing seriously - my wife and I have played 2 or 3 times since and DID use protection as agreed. Our bareback friends are both sterile any my wife has an IUD so it made the bareback option much easier with risk of pregnancy mitigated. My wife and I also tested clean a month ago. He is a doctor as well and we have an 8 year history with them of good and bad times - so the TRUST is 99%. I would say 100% but you NEVER really know anyone so have to be realistic. We accept 99%. Sounds like you guys are level headed and logical about it. If all 4 people are tested clean AND there is TRUST...then sounds good to ME. For me if there was not enough TRUST then any amount of testing would not matter because of the lag time it takes for stuff to show up. Even the 6 month testing rule in the porn industry isn't enough to protect actors from the threat of disease. For example there is another couple in our lives, new to us, they have mentioned wanting a long-term bareback relationship eventually. Personally my trust for various reasons is about a 70% with them. I am NOT comfortable going bareback with them until over time I have that trust level...and that can only be established through watching how people deal with you, situations and their life. It may never get built and that's okay. It is what it is. Good Luck! Quote Share this post Link to post
Dont.Stop 339 Posted April 13, 2012 After a couple weeks we saw our friends again last night. Meet & Greet and we had gotten a hotel room nearby in advance. A couple came along with us, and then later on another couple knocked at the door. Friends of our friends... We met them earlier in the night. All cool. When the female of our prospective bareback couple climbed right on... bareback with another guy in the room, I pretty much decided that this whole idea isn't going to go anywhere. To each their own and I certainly won't begrudge them a bit... but we'll keep things under wraps. They had admitted to us that they hadn't always played safe but they know they should. That had always sat in the back of mind and it pushed through last night. Hey, we've had a blast thus far playing safe and we'll certainly continue to do so. Nothing will change. At all. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dont.Stop 339 Posted May 17, 2012 Update. Got a phone call from this couple today. Chlamydia. We've always used condoms with them so I'm not terribly worried. The instance of oral chlamydia is pretty rare, but we're gonna take the antibiotic just in case. We were with a couple last night, the female was a nurse for 20 years. When the male tried to enter Mrs.DontStop, she reminded him he had to suit up. Sigh. Quote Share this post Link to post
DigginIt 1,132 Posted May 21, 2012 Update. Got a phone call from this couple today. Chlamydia. We've always used condoms with them so I'm not terribly worried. The instance of oral chlamydia is pretty rare, but we're gonna take the antibiotic just in case. We were with a couple last night, the female was a nurse for 20 years. When the male tried to enter Mrs.DontStop, she reminded him he had to suit up. Sigh. I think it was very responsible of them to call you. This could be considered loosely related to your earlier post about how you most likely won't be going there after observing them going bareback with another couple...there has been so many times that we almost played with a couple and then a month down the road, after we have gotten to know them better, that we have said 'thank god we didn't play with them,' lol. In your case, it just helped solidify a decision to only play with protection. Quote Share this post Link to post
Dont.Stop 339 Posted May 22, 2012 Absolutely. And we thanked them for that. However we just saw them at a party. And there they were again, playing bareback with another couple. Of course, I don't know what their arrangement is with them... really none of my business. But it has kinda turned us off from them. Of all the STI's, chlamydia is pretty easy to do away with, but it would scare me quite a bit, at least in the short term, to suit up. We'll still consider them friends. Just not playing nearly as much anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post
twistedpretzels 100 Posted May 22, 2012 Just to reiterate Petey's and my issue of December... Just because someone is a nurse or doctor does not make them more compliant or careful. Petey's would be long termer ended up having HSV2--- and I broke out vaginally with sores... Pete asks her again about the testing she had done (we were all tested the same week) but did not exchange actual paperwork:mad:-- cuz you know, she was a nurse... She says 'oh let me recheck my paperwork and calls him back with the HSV2 results' Pete was mortified. However, the 'good news' was when my final paperwork came back I had HSV1 (down south, it does not respect the belt line ) Pete's X had a history of cold sores and I had an X that used to get cold sores too so it was in my system. I broke out with these painful sores due to the extreme stress I had gone through the previous few months, specifically being discipline action at work (unfounded) and the growing pains that Pete and I were going through The nurse however said, prior to my results, 'since we are all infected now we can all play together now' UGH. me keel her!!!! UGH. We never told nurse that my outbreak was HSV1 and not HSV2-- we silently walked away. Other stuff came up from her past like political take overs and involvement in murder and extortion-- well.... one of those actually ..... lol. The whole thing was an extremely difficult time for me/us but it has made us even closer. I was also lucky enough to be adopted by a wonderful SB married male doctor who wrote to me privately and was so supportive and helpful I am getting teary just writing this. Anyway, I am just saying ya' all can't be too careful. Always talk talk talk! Quote Share this post Link to post
Gab32421 25 Posted May 2, 2015 Unlucky Dont Stop, you made the right call though. Quote Share this post Link to post
kevinandmary 18 Posted August 13, 2015 Mary and I started swinging three months ago. We met a couple who invited us to their house for a meet and greet. When we got there there were 15 other couples we were introduced to and invited to join their inner circle. The one requirement is one week before a party the doctor is to test everyone for std's because they allow bareback play which Mary prefers. I am glad to be tested and safe. Quote Share this post Link to post
JAPrufrock 588 Posted August 13, 2015 As others have said before, some STI's have different incubation periods. A free and clear certificate, may not actually be free and clear. Personally, it's not worth the risk to us. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
M1F2KTJ 473 Posted August 28, 2015 I think it is a great idea. It takes a lot of anxiety away. Bareback is always better and the sex will be better. Finding a compatible couple willing to be exclusive for the sake of playing bareback would be a treasure worth keeping. It is unfortunately rare. I wouldn't let that stop you even if it is going to be only temporary. Letters from the "clinic" can be easily faked so going together at the same time would be an interesting bonding experience. In my opinion your greatest risks come from people you don't know very well. Sex with strangers is exciting but I would be requiring condoms. Our experiences have been, mostly ,with people we have known in non sexual ways for long periods of time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
longun45 115 Posted September 23, 2015 You acquire a lot of things over the course of living 50-60 years. You immune system helps protect you against it, there are ways to bolster the immune system and make it stronger. Exercise is one way, Nutrition and special supplements are another route. Combine them and you will be as strong as you can be. As for Female problems check youtube on the subject of Iodine. It has been out of the American diet since 1985 and there are many other substances that have been processed out of our diet that we need. I find that eating liver at least monthly is a good thing. Lots of vitamins and trace elements there it has the best concentration I have found yet.As many no doubt know the standard American diet is pretty bad but you can eat well even on a budget and avoid the food mistakes. As for going bareback, in my view it is pretty much inconsequential. Anything you can pick up through intercourse you can also get orally, sometimes it is a bit harder but you can still pick it up. If you are comfortable using condoms then please do. But remember they are only 80% effective against pregnancy. But when they break, and my ex-wife was good at breaking them, you have been exposed. What do you do then? Just remember in the middle of life is if. Just be careful and use you big brain first. It's fun every time. Quote Share this post Link to post
Sophy 569 Posted January 9, 2016 We only have condomless sex with our most closest friends, people we know for years. In fact last 7 years I have only received cum inside me from 3 different males including hubby, I consider the later a lot safer than many singles. Quote Share this post Link to post
MarniJohn 172 Posted January 13, 2016 I respect when people choose to play bareback, personally that is out of the question for myself and my husband. Why then do so many men pressure me to lay without protection? They make a show of putting on a condom for their wife to see, then they keep trying to slide it off while we are playing. Seriously? IT has happened too many times for me to count but next time I am thinking I will just say loud enough for the wife to hear that they must keep it on! Quote Share this post Link to post
GoldCoCouple 4,066 Posted January 13, 2016 Sounds like you are playing with the wrong men. Something like that is like lying or just being deceitful. Respect is respect and if someone doesn't consistently show it, they are not invited back. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
bedwarrior2016 17 Posted September 12, 2016 I just simply do not go bareback. Quote Share this post Link to post