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Would you send your child to a nudist camp for kids? Is nudism ok for kids? Does this attract pedophiles? This was brought up on Good Morning America this morning. Very interesting!

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i saw the news of child nudist camps on the internet. i think the Florida one is up and operating. personally, child nudist camps sound patently pornographic. There is something ugly about the thought, and Florida should be ashamed. I know there are thousands of pantheists, naturists, nudists, who swear by that lifestyle, and I don't think about it one way or another. Whole families at nudist camps might be acceptable, but "children," I'm skeptical of that. It will never work.

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I am all for a family taking part in nudist activities. but a nudist camp for kids just seems like a dangerous situation just waiting to happen.

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Nudists will say it isn't sexual for anyone, adult or child. That it is just natural.

 

I wonder, if you are walking down the street, & a fully clothed person turns your head and you think to yourself...wow that is one sexy body.....well then -- how can that same body -- not be sexy....once unclothed??

 

There are bad people everywhere, send your kid to church...fully clothed. Good luck with that one.

 

So does a nudist summer camp pose more of a threat to a child, or just the same amount of threat?

 

If you are a nudist and you believe that nudism is normal & natural then chose the camp carefully and be sure your child wants to be a nudist.

 

It isn't any different from any other decision any parent has to make.

 

Think it through, check everything out, know who your child will be with (not just their name) then go home and worry yourself half to death that you did the right thing -- till the kid comes home with all the best smiles to tell you how grand his/her time was.

 

Clothes -- no clothes, helmet -- no helmet, squirrel for dinner -- no squirrel for dinner...

 

Just cause I wouldn't do it...shouldn't mean you can't do it.

 

Or something.

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Last year, our resort hosted an excellent youth camp. Yes, it was nudist. I was there for several days and saw for myself that the kids were well looked after, kept busy and their days filled with fun and interesting things to do. They were just kids. Like any other.

 

The point of view about a youth summer camp at a nudist resort comes from a lack of knowledge. I understand this. I would like for people to find out more about the resorts and what kids get out of camp if only for your own information. You might find the lifestyle interesting, fun and very relaxing.

 

Kids are in absolutely no greater risk of molestation than in clothed environments. This is hard to accept for many people. Church related textile activities are far more dangerous to our kids than at nudist camps. There is a very good reason for this.

 

At AANR (see aanr.com) and Naturist Society resorts, resort owners have rock hard rules about conduct. A man sporting an erection could get his self ejected for life. Any attempts by anyone, young or old, to do anything remotely out of place with a child will face the same consequences.

 

You see, nudists tend to be prudier than you think.

 

People should be aware that a nudist youth camp is really just where the kids camp together at regular family oriented resorts. They are sort of segregated from the rest of the guests and members only so that they can attend various functions and activities as young people. The Nudist Manifesto is not drilled into their heads. There isn't one. Having fun, exploring nature, good exercise and good sportsmanship is what is developed. Their own body acceptance is a side benefit, too.

 

Our kids did not attend such a camp. This started long after our kids were young enough to enjoy it. If they were of that age, we would have problem whatsoever to allowing (not sending) them to go.

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Ok I’m not used to the nudist seen although I don’t think I would mind trying it out for a vacation. With that said, children don’t seem to be at risk may or may not be factual. How is this so? Mentally they may be at risk I’m not sure just an opinion. And now for the question?

 

At these nudist camps are cloths worn by these children if they are uncomfortable do they get that choice? Can they put shorts on if they are a little embarrassed? This too me would make all the difference and the difference would be choice!

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If I had I would never send them to a nudist summer camp. Even if I personally knew the counselors and knew that they were not there to get any kind of sexual gratification from seeing naked children canoeing, swimming, and doing all the other things you do at summer camp, I remember my fist time at a summer camp. It was only three weeks but during that three weeks I had sex for the first time. Can you imagine a group of 12-14 year olds, just entering puberty, hormones raging, and of course, that summer crush where you are not restricted by trying to find a place to explore each others bodies without worrying about being caught or having to get dressed quickly?

 

Call me old fashioned, but I believe in giving children and teenagers as little opportunity to get into trouble while giving them as much freedom to make mistakes as possible. Kids running around are enough of a danger to themselves without adding nudity to the mix. I'm sure a lot of parents didn't want to hear this (my son/daughter would NEVER do anything like that), but didn't you? I know I did.

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Bama, no child should ever be subjected to anything that would make them uncomfortable. Nudist parents tend to be sensitive to their kids needs and comfort levels. So do the affiliated resorts. Parents could actually be asked to remove their children if it is felt that the child is showing signs that they don't want to be there. This is actually something that you can read in rules and by-laws at some resorts.

 

And you know, come to think of it, there were kids that wore clothes at the youth camp last year. Just this last weekend, we saw kids riding bikes and playing and they wore clothes, too. They also will take their clothes off when they want to.

 

There are some resorts that do actually require everyone to be nude- period, when it is warm enough. We have nothing to do with them.

 

Incidentally, the only studies that I have heard of, and I am not an expert on anything, is that nudist children to have a better self image. They see that they are just like everyone else- inside and out.

 

The saying: "If it feels good- do it" works in reverse, too. "If it doesn't feel good, don't" applies to all parts of life.

 

It shouldn't hurt to be a kid.

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Originally posted by EternallySingle

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Call me old fashioned, but I believe in giving children and teenagers as little opportunity to get into trouble while giving them as much freedom to make mistakes as possible. Kids running around are enough of a danger to themselves without adding nudity to the mix. I'm sure a lot of parents didn't want to hear this (my son/daughter would NEVER do anything like that), but didn't you? I know I did.

 

Good point, ES. TO answer you- no, I didn't.

 

However, I do know of a girl that got pregnant at a Baptist summer camp at 15. Of course, it was the behavior of a couple of kids that got her pregnant- not the church. I also know that at that same summer camp, kids smoked pot. The church did not supply this.

 

Now, I have not been to every nudist resort there is. But, I can say that I simply have not heard of a kid getting pregnant or being molested or whatever. I won't try to convince anyone that things never happen. But, as I think I made the point that things DO happen in even what should be an innocent, structured and religious setting, it is safe to assume that humans will be humans- with or without clothes.

 

Isn't that why sexy clothing exists?

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If you are considering visiting a resort, call them before hand. Ask every possible question that you and your wife could have. Don't be even a little embarrassed to ask anything.

 

Check out aanr.com, too. there is a lot of information there.

 

Then, if you go, get to know the members. Ask THEM questions, too.

 

Just a word of caution: topics about sex can get you thrown out. Although you could bring up something related to sex and have totally innocent intentions, there really are some nudists that are so uptight. :eek:

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Yes I would go me and the wife! What, can't mention sex?! Kinda hard when it is staring you in the face (mr bamas short only 5'9"). As far as the kids, I'll opt out not involving them (although my 3 year old thinks cloths are for wimps and she rather run bare ass all day).

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The camp has been in operation for 35 years without any major problems. To the best of my knowledge and what I have read there have been no civil or criminal actions filed against the camp or its counselors with regard to sexual misconduct of any kind. The only reason this came to light is some politician has decided that it is the government's business to interfere, GOD BLESS ELECTION YEARS. In any case it's just one more instance where big brother thinks it is better for the village to raise your child than you. I'm not saying it's right or wrong to send a child to a nudist camp, but I want to make that choice MYSELF.

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I think that this would have to depend on the age and maturity of the child. He or she should be the only one that makes that decision.

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When the girls found out, they just HAD to go with us. The first club that we belonged to required that children under a certain age prove that they could swim before swimming in the adult (deeper) pool.

 

These girls took that challenge up immediately! They earned their dolphin key in no time.

 

They were 6 and 8 at the time.

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Children do not belong at nudist camps, clubs, whatever. I saw this family on GMA this morning talking about how it's perfectly fine for their young children to play around and attend nudist camps along with other children between the ages of 11-18. That's fucked up!! I don't care how open minded you are. I don't care if you're the world's greatest parents and your kids have been exposed to this since a very young age. Do any of you remember being 11-18? Remember the RAGING HORMONES? And I love the nudists who will sit there and say they can 'control their urges'. Bullshit!! Young children today are exposed to more sexually blatant images today than ever thanks to TV, the internet, music. And yes, all these things factor into the equation. I've been to several 'family-oriented' nudists clubs in South Fla. and here in the DC area and some of them aren't so 'family-oriented' behind closed doors. I've seen it myself. Sorry if I've blown any myth but it's reality. I'm sure some of you will want to tear into me as soon as you read this. Feel free. But let children be children. There is a time and place for everything.

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Pna42, I stayed out of the other topic regarding naturalism as I wasn't sure where my feelings lie. I happened to have met quite a few couples that are into naturalism. Some were into swinging, some not, and these were people that we all ended up meeting at a swingers club. All I can say is that they have and exhibit a comfort about them and their bodies, (regardless of size, shape, etc.) that make me wish that I could have the same feeling that they exhibit.

 

I am probably the most protective mother that ever walked the face of this earth, but I can say (NOW) that it would have been great if I didn't feel the need to 'flee' just in case one of my brothers would have seen my body or me theirs. I can say now that had my parents been 'open' enough, maybe I wouldn't be so concerned about a crease here or a mole there.

 

What I have learned is that naturalism is not about sex, it is about being comfortable with you and your body. I would have to think that if kids, even in the hormonal stage would (by example) be able to separate the two, (sex and nudity)if they had been raised in the naturalism way.

 

If it's any consulation, I'ld have probably felt the same is you a couple of years ago.

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I never meant to imply that ALL nudists are swingers. If you're a fully grown adult and you want to go to a club or camp, get naked and enjoy the scenery, swim, play volleyball, play tennis-fine. But young children [especially teenagers] don't belong in such an environment. They do not have the ability or maturity to make those types of decisions as to what kind of lifestyle to lead. I'm only saying what I feel. And for the parents to expose them [literally] to that is wrong.

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Originally posted by pna42

I never meant to imply that ALL nudists are swingers. If you're a fully grown adult and you want to go to a club or camp, get naked and enjoy the scenery, swim, play volleyball, play tennis-fine. But young children [especially teenagers] don't belong in such an environment. They do not have the ability or maturity to make those types of decisions as to what kind of lifestyle to lead. I'm only saying what I feel. And for the parents to expose them [literally] to that is wrong.

 

While I disagree with your opinion, I thought it was very well stated. Well said.

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Well, I happen to think that, pna42, is right. Children should be left to have a normal childhood and not have to be exposed to nudist camps or anything that is just not appropriate for anyone, but adults. What next, are we going to think that it's ok for our kids to have alcohol and play with handguns?

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have kids and I would never subject them to anything like this, they are going to live a normal life and have fun as children while they are. There is no need for any child to have to grow up way to soon and this is just what is going on here with nudist camps and having children there.

 

(no offense to anyone and how they want to raise their kids, but this is just my opinion) :confused:

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While I know that there are people out there who will abuse the idea of a nudist resort for their own pleasure as pedophiles (whether it be by visiting the resort itself or by taking it a step beyond with pictures on the internet - btw, pictures of children nude in a nature environment are not considered child porn), but there is another side.

 

I've been to a couple of nudist resorts, one of which allows families with kids. They were very strict there in regards to people's actions. No photography was allowed without permission of both the campgrounds and anyone in the pictures. Anyone showing signs of arousal is asked to leave, etc.

 

I've been to others that don't allow children and personally I'd prefer the latter, just because I'm more comfortable when kids aren't around (whether naked or not).

 

I think it's really up to the parents to raise their kids and decide whether or not this is something that they want to expose them to. I do think that those who are raised with an openness to nudity probably end up being more open about the human body in general and may be less likely to feel the need to explore, etc as they get older. They will already know about the body and not be wondering why it needs to be hidden.

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I belong to an exclusive club, "mine". When I get the urge, I whip off my skivvies and go au natural. It's great. Of course some of the neighbors don't like it, but hey they are prudes...and my daughter, she may as well be a nudist, she can't keep her clothes on, she thinks it's great. Of course she is only 3 and I hope this attitude changes in her teen years, but who knows, no harm no foul.

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There is a beautiful clothing optional beach here, and having gone there for twenty years or so, we have come to know a lot of the regulars there, many of whom have since had families.

 

So, now there are little kids running around - children that we have known since they were babies, and their their parents philosophy is largely "if my son/ daughter begins to feel uncomfortable, then we will discontinue bringing him/ her".

 

No one that I know goes to a naturist beach with the intention to gawk at and screw everything that walks. Although I know that there are losers who do.

 

There is no place that is 100% safe anymore, sadly enough. Although I do not have children, I believe that good parenting is about being attentive to your child's needs, not smothering them or closing them out from life experiences.

 

If I had kids, I would rather they play at a nude beach (supervised) than playing violent video games where they "kill" things and people.

 

And that is my $0.25 worth.

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In this and another thread on this issue, there have been strong opinions for and against. At one time, there was a little heat. Then, things cooled off. This is a good debate because there is a diversity of opinions AND, more importantly to me, the debate got back to the issues instead of attacks.

 

I like that.

 

A few years ago, I was asked by one of the country's oldest nudist resorts to do their website. It was to include pictures. I took digital photos of everything from trees and rocks to nude sunbathing and a great Luau. I took some 300 pictures. The site has only about 8 of them. I gave copies of all pictures to the resort. All of mine were deleted. No questions. Each photo taken was preceded with permission.

 

Even though I was asked to, I could not take a picture of any child. Just me. Just couldn't.

 

All that being said, I actually prefer not having kids around. Usually, I mean. It is nice to go and relax in peace. If kids are there, then, I just change from my relaxed mode to one of fun. They have a right to a fun time, too.

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Is it possible to both want to go to nudist camps and such because you like being free of cloths, and also because you want your body to be seen? Does the latter violate the non-sexual intent of the environment? It’s like being a life study for an art class. Strictly speaking the artists aren’t supposed to look at the model as a sexual object. And having been in three classes where nude models were used, I can attest that you really don’t think of them in sexual terms. However I can’t not notice that a model has nice or uniquely shaped breasts, or find some interest in how her hips or pelvis are shaped. Its not a sexually arousing thing, but it is simply interesting.

 

But on the other side, every year the school paper does an article on the models, and they all say the same thing: It is not sexual, but I love doing it. But I know from friends and experience that there is that enjoyment at being nude in front of people, being seen, having people look at your body. It is, in some kind of way, a sexual thing. At least it is an affirming, confidence building thing, you feel good about your body and its features. In that I think of it as being sexual, at least in some tiny way.

 

Is it wrong to want to see other people naked, and be seen naked, even if it isn’t directly a sexual kick, but maybe akin to it?

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MagicEnigma, in speaking for myself I find a nude beach as erotic as grocery shopping. That being said, more than once I have spotted someone in the aisle of Safeway that has made me stop and take another look. *g*

 

Of course, if someone is spectacular looking you are going to give them a once over, same as at a textile beach or in a bar.

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I think kids are confused and going through so many changes, emotionally and physically that it would be even more stressful for them . They get really private about their body as they change and kids are very mean when someone is different.

 

Not to mention the weirdos that it would attract.

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Excellent post, Schamp. And you are correct that puberty is stressful for kids. It is not unusual for kids to choose not to go to nudist resorts during this period. Sometimes it takes a few years after reaching full adulthood for them to feel comfortable enough to return to the nudist environment. This is exactly why nudist parents tend to be understanding and not push the issue.

 

We are also extremely cautious about who is allowed into nudist resorts. I myself have actually assisted in the removal of a man that made unwanted suggestive remarks to an adult woman. He has been banned for life. We have a one-strike rule. Blow it once and bye-bye for all time.

 

Had he made some sort of advance to a younger woman, especially under age, I am not too sure that he would have made it to the gate. Our resort is in the desert, you see. People can sort of... disappear there. ;)

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Hello,

 

Yes, we would send our children to a nudist summer camp so long as we checked it out first and met the counselors.

 

Just as with everything else, if you know the people running the organization and see how they interact with the children and teens, you can pretty much make a decision as to whether or not you and more importantly, your children will fare in that location.

 

There are plenty of bad things that happen to kids at regular camp and we don't talk about shutting them down.

 

Let good judgement be the guide and you almost can't go wrong.

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