Getting These Couples to Swing

[sahajacpl 95]

This about getting two married couples to swing with us in a small town that has no clubs or other swing facilities. We have a vacation home where we visit several times a year, a week or two at a time. We have one couple that is a regular, that we swing with, doing full swaps intercourse with each other mate. We have had a couple of unattached females for f/m/f various times. Now we want to add the two couples that have a business or family connection with us. Generally we stay from approaching couples with a connection that may cause serious issues, but this one, we think, is a reasonable risk with rewards of social and sexual nature that include a full-swap intercourse. Looking for suggeations how to bring this about. We do want to be discrete to the point of not causing a storm yet the message should be clear and unmistakable about what is intended, i.e., play, full swap and intercourse.

 

One: Regular swing couple Sam and Kelly. Business owners show up at various times. Most times either just or him due to different travel schedules. We do foursome play and full swap for intercourse. Other times when only one is present it is threesome: m/f/m or f/m/f.

 

Two: Sam(antha) and Pat(rick) Married couple. Sam is my (wife's) distant cousin and college friend. So, there is a family connection.They spent many years in Australia as expats. Now have returned. Aus has a very vibrant swing culture with private couple's (sex) parties quite common. Pat was interested but could not get wife to go along. She is too shy to play with another couple, not that she is against a swap. We need to break the ice so four of us can play, and full swap for intercourse. We have enjoyed their company, have chemistry, done some risque chat, but, have yet to ask for play leading to full swap. Pat is definitely open to the idea of swinging and full swap. He is not sure about how to get wife to go along.

 

Three: Shelly and Rob. Shell'y Dad is the property manager where we live. He and his wife are a vanilla couple in their late 60s. So, there is a business connection. Hubby met Shelly first at her Dad's office. Both live in the homes near each othe. Shelly is a very attractive woman and hubby would love to do (fuck) her. Found out from her dad that her hubby Rob works offshore for three months at a time and visits home for couple of weeks. Presumely, the couple can have sex. Now Shelly and I have become good friends, talking about all things that women do including sex. I have told her that we as a couple swing with other couples and swap mates for play and intercourse with the other couple's mate. Shelly is open minded, enjoys sex, but thinks that her hubby, Rob, may have an isue seeing his wife play with another man and have sex.

 

We are looking for suggestions how to get these two couples to play with us. We are open to any ideas, howsoever wild. Just need to be very discrete so as not to rock the boat too much, since both couples have connections with us, family in one case, business ina the other. We need an out if things should go wrong at the proposal stage. How do we approach? Both couples together or wife on wife or two hubby's discussing how to get their wifes to swing? We can entertain in our home for full privacy for play, swap and intercourse.

 

Thanks in advance for your ideas. Any ideas howsoever wild are welcome. We are looking for some creative thinking since we would love to play with these couples. We have good chemistry and we have made a friendship. We want to channel the friendship into play and full swap of mates for intercourse.

 

Some of you may say-do not go there because of the connections. That is OK.

 

Looking for some good advise.

[SW_PA_Couple 4,023]

. . . . Some of you may say-do not go there because of the connections. That is OK.

 

Looking for some good advise.

 

The plan for the Normandy Invasion was less complicated than your plan. How can this possibly be fun for you?

[sunbuckus 3,567]

I think the real question is how much you and your wife are willing to go through if the worst case scenario occurs with either couple. Picture the consequences if these other couples are horrified or offended at your proposal to swing. Will word travel among your family or business circles that you two are swingers? Are you two okay with everyone else knowing this? Perhaps the couple wants to break off any friendship they have with you two and have no contact with you. Are you okay with this happening? If the possible consequences are something that you two can live with then the proposal to swing shouldn't be that hard. If the worst case scenario possibilities aren't to your liking then perhaps the proposal to swing with these two couples isn't a good idea if you don't want to jeopardize any friendships/family/business connections.

[two4youinswva 3,068]

Getting vanilla/possibly vanilla couples to swing has been a pretty common theme among your posts over the last few years.

 

 

 

I would think at this point you two would be giving US advice on how to go about this little endeavor.

 

 

 

sahajacpl said:

Some of you may say-do not go there because of the connections. That is OK.

 

That's what we would say.

[cplnuswing 4,712]

Some of you may say-do not go there because of the connections. That is OK.

 

That would be my answer, don't go there.

 

The fact that you are going into this trying to conjure up a plan of how you can hopefully extract yourselves back out of it should be all the warning signs needed. With a swinging couple, you go into not needing an extraction plan - if it doesn't work out, everybody just moves on to the next one, no harm, no foul. Here, that is not likely to happen.

[mauijanedoe 1,414]

We are looking for suggestions how to get these two couples to play with us. We are open to any ideas, howsoever wild. Just need to be very discrete so as not to rock the boat too much, since both couples have connections with us, family in one case, business ina the other. We need an out if things should go wrong at the proposal stage.

 

Essentially you are asking how you can approach vanilla couples for swinging in such a way that you also have a Get Out of Jail Free card. That's not actually possible. As they also have connections into your own vanilla lives, it will likely not only not go well, it will most probably bite you in the ass.

 

While I think things like this are best left as intricately detailed fantasies, if you must try to seduce vanilla couples, then just be straightforward about it and ask them if they've ever thought about swinging. Otherwise, stick to swinging with swingers.

[Chicup 41]

You know what you call a couple where one member wants to swing and the other doesn't? A vanilla couple.

[DigginIt 1,132]

I believe that the vast majority of people can't handle swinging. They can't handle it for reasons that range from religion to jealousy.

 

Even if you DO manage to get them to swing, are you really sure you want to be the cause of their potential divorce after they realize later they were not cut out for it?

 

You can't just expose them to something and hope they see 'the light' because it doesn't work that way and while you may be successful, probability is you will most likely lose your friends in the end.

[IEcouple 222]

As the others said, this idea is pretty risky. There's a strong possibility that you could screw up your friendships -- or their marriages -- by trying to make something happen.

 

The "he wants to but hasn't convinced her yet" scenario is one in which the couple is not ready to swing. They may be some day, but not yet. To think that you can be the one to make that happen is just selfishness on your part.

 

It sounds like you already have a pretty great thing going with other couples, so I'm not sure why you're so eager to add more. Be careful!

[Guy1964 177]

I've been following this post, kind of lurking. My take on it is that your inner guidance system is saying "Danger, Will Robertson; Danger!" When I haven't listened to that voice, I generally wind up in trouble. Of course, I may be totally off.