Cialis & Viagra dose - How many milligrams?

[NYFlirts 158]

I'm pretty convinced that a lot of people in the lifestyle use viagra, cialis, etc. to remain hard for hours of play with multiple people. I've definitely seen the use first hand by guys that are young, in-shape, and use it for this kind of "extra boost" help.

 

I know some people will get an Rx / buy the higher dosage pills and then cut them into smaller pieces since it's cheaper. Example: a guy only needs 25 mg. of Viagra, so he'll buy the 100mg tablets and cut them into quarters.

 

It looks like Viagra comes in 20mg - 100mg. My doctor said he'd give me 20mg pills and I could start with one and see if that works and go up from there.

 

Another example, Cialis looks like it comes in pills from 5mg - 40mg.

 

So, my question are:

 

1) How many mg do you (or people you know) take of this stuff?

2) If I start with a low dose will it be VERY obvious it is or isn't working?

 

Regarding the latter question: I've NEVER had a single problem getting / staying hard with my wife, but have had a handful of times getting soft 1/2 way through with other girls. There hasn't been any rhyme or reason to why I sometimes have problems and sometimes don't. What this means is I don't really have a controlled experimental way to figure out if the smallest dose of this stuff will work or if I need a huge hit.

 

How do I figure out how much I need and if it's really working or not, especially when there are times I have zero problems anyway?

[Gordo 618]

Well it might be different in the US compared to Canada but to my knowledge cialis comes in a 5, 10 & 20 mg tablet. I prefer to use it because it lasts for 2-3 days so timing is not really an issue as it is with viagra. Although I don't really need it the fact is it can produce "results" that resemble my 20's. Who can resist that :-)

 

I use the 20mg tablet and simply takes bites (1/3) so about 6-7 mg seems to work just fine. Too high a dose has some feedback in that even your underwear rubbing produces hard-ons and there is a side effect of waking up around 3-4 a.m. with a raging boner. Not necessarily bad but you need a willing host! Note* on work nights the host is whiny and not very cooperative

[exploringRM 305]

I have 10 mg pills of Viagra. Some of the side effects I've had has been nasal congestion a few hours after taking (and it comes on suddenly) as well as back aches. These were painful. Sometimes I do half, sometimes a whole.

[tallicafan 41]

I get 100 mg viagra and cut them in 1/4 or 1/2. Cialis in 20 mg and cut them in 1/2 as well. Only issue is they are so expensive. Viagra is like $24.00 a pill and Cialis is around $28.00 a pill. I have been ordering generics from India. I pay around $ 1 to $3 each depending on quantity ordered. These are made by a reputable pharmacy called Cipla. They work just like the "brand" varieties. I still cut these into the smaller doses and they are awesome.

[Gordo 618]

Wow Cialis here is only around $18/pill

 

I'd love the info on the reputable pharmacy in India if you don't mind. (PM?)

[tallicafan 41]

I have 10mg pills of Viagra. Some of the side effects I've had has been nasal congestion a few hours after taking (and it comes on suddenly) as well as back aches. These were painful. Sometimes I do half, sometimes a whole.

 

I never heard of Viagra causing a backache before. Cialis yes, never V. I fortunately don't get this with either rather just a plugged up nose and thee red flushing effect.

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

You guys are taking chances by ordering "Viagra" from India. It is not prescribed by a real physician who can help you to decide whether or not it is right for you. You can have no confidence that it is really Viagra and not cement dust coated with blue paint.

 

To the OP, my PCP prescribes 25 mg tablets for me and they work effectively (I am sixty-six years of age). They cost only about $6 each. I believe it is good that your doc is starting you at 20.

[Brad145 58]

I've used V from India as well, usually use 50mg, but if i know it's going to be a long night I'll do 100mg.

 

Side-effects for me are stuffiness, and after 100mg it'll be around 10 hours before I can get to sleep.

 

Think I might try Cialis next time.

[tallicafan 41]

You guys are taking chances by ordering "Viagra" from India. It is not prescribed by a real physician who can help you to decide whether or not it is right for you. You can have no confidence that it is really Viagra and not cement dust coated with blue paint.

 

To the OP, my PCP prescribes 25 mg tablets for me and they work effectively (I am sixty-six years of age). They cost only about $6 each. I believe it is good that your doc is starting you at 20.

 

I totally agree.... I did go to the Dr. Got the legit script and then bent over and raped at the pharmacy. I did as much research as i could and yes did take a chance. Buyer beware.

[lotsoffun201 175]

I cut 100 mg Viagra in half. Stuffy nose and feeling flushed are my side effects. I hear the product from India works well and will be trying them soon.

[njbm 2,868]

We know they sell real Viagra and Cialis in Cancun. Last year, they were sold out where I was. This year, will get some. I will update in March with the price if I can score some.

[oc1234 435]

You might want to try Cialis for Daily Use. They come in 2.5 and 5mg tablets. They are the same as regular Cialis so you can get the 5mg tablets which is much easier than going through the hassle of cutting the 20mg tablets. The odd shape of the 20mg tablets seems to be a way of making it difficult to easily cut them. Check the price. In general I have found that there is not much difference between 10 and 20mg pills and I would guess that price of the 30 5mg tablets (150 mg total) would be similar to the cost of 7.5 20mg tablets. The 30 day pack I got was a sample my doctor gave me so I don't know how much they cost. I am going to get a prescription for the 5mg tablets the next time I see him. My insurance does not cover cialis or viagra and I have found it is very difficult to comparison shop for them.

[NYFlirts 158]

Thanks for all the comments guys!

 

My doctor gave me generic Viagra (I guess the patent or whatever finally expired) and they were about $2.00 per 20mg pill. I really dislike the stuffy nose side-effect!

 

I have a friend who ordered generic cialis from India and he's been using them for a while. He gave me one of his pills and it worked GREAT. It was a 20mg pill and since my doctor only prescribed 5mg, I'm thinking I could just cut the 20mg generic into quarters and give it a try.

 

Again, my problem is this: Since I can't find any consistency for when I do and don't have problems, I don't have a controlled experiment to see if the 5mg is or isn't working.

 

Am I the only one that doesn't see a night / day difference between using and not using the pills?

[njbm 2,868]

I have used Viagra about 4-5 times . My pills are 50mg, sometimes I cut them in half. When I take it on an empty stomach in the morning and have sex about 1-1.5 hours later, I noticed the increased blood flow and stronger erections. But I have taken it at night or in 25mg and nothing noticeable happens.

 

I do want to try Cialis to compare, but I don't want to drive my doctor crazy or have him think I am sex obsessed. I will try to get it in Mexico on our next Desire trip.

[lovenestduo 74]

Anyone notice that the filler and active ingredient of Viagra is not very well mixed? I'll cut a 100mg into quarters and it's like playing Russian roulette. Little effect, no effect, wham! 90mg hit!, little effect. I tell ya, when you are used to 25mg and you get a surprise maximum dose, it will knock you on your ass the next morning with a headache and fuzziness that rivals a hangover.

[tallicafan 41]

Anyone notice that the filler and active ingredient of Viagra is not very well mixed? I'll cut a 100mg into quarters and it's like playing russian roulette. Little effect, no effect, wham! 90mg hit!, little effect. I tell ya, when you are used to 25mg and you get a surprise maximum dose, it will knock you on your ass the next morning with a headache and fuzziness that rivals a hangover.

 

I have noticed it a little. I think the best results always are taking Viagra on an empty stomach. If you eat anything with any fat it absorbs it. Viagra always works best for me/ longer if i take it and eat an hour later verses going out for drinks/having food and then popping one after eating and then trying to play.

[NYFlirts 158]

I'm thinking I'll split the 20 mg Cialis tablets into quarters (5mg) and give it a test. I guess I could always add 5mg more if it seems it isn't doing anything.

 

What sucks is I won't know that I need more until it's too late!

[junglecouple 127]

You guys are taking chances by ordering "Viagra" from India. It is not prescribed by a real physician who can help you to decide whether or not it is right for you. You can have no confidence that it is really Viagra and not cement dust coated with blue paint.

 

To the OP, my PCP prescribes 25 mg tablets for me and they work effectively (I am sixty-six years of age). They cost only about $6 each. I believe it is good that your doc is starting you at 20.

 

That $6 price will skyrocket if your insurance didn't cover the major cost. When you get your receipt, look at what "YOU PAID" vs what was covered by your insurance.

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

That $6 price will skyrocket if your insurance didn't cover the major cost. When you get your receipt, look at what "YOU PAID" vs what was covered by your insurance.

 

As NYFlints observed, physicians are now able to prescribe a generic form of Viagra. Each tab used to cost me almost $20 each.

[junglecouple 127]

I'm aware of the generics, but at least here, in Texas, the only difference in $1-$3. I'd like to think it's just Texas, but got a hunch, nope. And most private insurance won't cover a bit of it. Luckily, good clinics and Mexico are only a couple of hours away. But even there, it's $15-$18 each, minimum.

[Formybubu 55]

Please read the following before you keep splitting pills.

Tips to Save Money on Prescription Drugs

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

OK, sounds good.

 

For a rush, maybe I can snort the powder that falls off after I split the pill :smile:

[SwingSetWife 444]

This thread bothers me... I'm not trying to be Ms. Judgy Pants (well... maybe?) but taking these w/o a script? splitting pills? The last thing I want is for a play partner to have a heart attack while he is doing me... js...

 

And now I'm going to be a hypocrite (which I'd like to point out that I'm totally okay with this) and wonder if DH's doc would be Mr. Judgy Pants if we told him we wanted the pills for the purpose of swinging....? Any thoughts on this?

[sunbuckus 3,567]

SwingSetWife said:

This thread bothers me... I'm not trying to be Ms. Judgy Pants (well... maybe?) but taking these w/o a script? splitting pills? The last thing I want is for a play partner to have a heart attack while he is doing me...

 

I know that there are several female and male forum members that feel similarly to how you feel so you aren't alone. Personally, I think men have the harder time (pun not intended) while swinging. They can't force an erection just to have a "test fuck". They have to deal with performance anxiety, the ability to cum or not with new partners, getting used to the idea that their wife might be more sought out than he will...if men need an extra boost I'm not going to fault them. I'm just saying I'm grateful to be a female in the LS.

[SwingSetWife 444]

I know that there are several female and male forum members that feel similarly to how you feel so you aren't alone. Personally, I think men have the harder time (pun not intended) while swinging. They can't force an erection just to have a "test fuck". They have to deal with performance anxiety, the ability to cum or not with new partners, getting used to the idea that their wife might be more sought out than he will...if men need an extra boost I'm not going to fault them. I'm just saying I'm grateful to be a female in the LS.

 

I believe I have been misunderstood. I have absolutely no problem with men taking the drug. DH used V for awhile a few years back, and we just had a discussion about him either renewing the script or getting C for our future play experiences. I also hold no judgement against anyone that has performance issues. Again, this is something that we have experienced ourselves. What worries me is taking it without a script from the doctor... aka using it as a "street drug" imho. Maybe I am mistaken about this? I dunno? And I'd be more than happy to retract my statements assuming that is the case. But the theme of this thread seems to be such.

[sunbuckus 3,567]

I believe I have been misunderstood. I have absolutely no problem with men taking the drug. DH used V for awhile a few years back, and we just had a discussion about him either renewing the script or getting C for our future play experiences. I also hold no judgement against anyone that has performance issues. Again, this is something that we have experienced ourselves. What worries me is taking it without a script from the doctor... aka using it as a "street drug" imho. Maybe I am mistaken about this? I dunno? And I'd be more than happy to retract my statements assuming that is the case. But the theme of this thread seems to be such.

 

I understood your post. I'm just stating my opinion on how men might feel that they have to get a boost--young, old, fit, unfit, purple, green, prescription or not. Is it safe? No, but neither is driving. Each male is their own person. I'm sure they've each weighed the personal risks of taking some ED medication, prescribed or not. If the ones who are taking it when they don't have a prescription, then they've clearly felt that the benefits outweigh the risks. Besides, when you go out to play, how do you really know if someone has a "boost" or not?

 

As for the theme of this post, it feels more like it morphed into a "Where can I get it cheaper?" or "How can I stretch one pill since they are so expensive?" conversation.

[SwingSetWife 444]

Ah. Yes, I see what you are saying. Thanks for clearing that up

[NYFlirts 158]

A quick update:

 

I went to a 4 day party and decided to do a test. I took 1/4 pill (5 mg) of Cialis every night and things couldn't have gone better. I had zero problems at all.

 

With that said, the problem I mentioned in my first and subsequent posts still remains: Would things have gone just as well without the help? It's HARD to say As it STANDS right now, I'm comfortable taking just the 5mg as a bit of insurance when I'm out with a new girl in an environment where I expect there is potential for a soft time.

[MidWestMan 33]

NYFlirts said:

A quick update:

 

I went to a 4 day party and decided to do a test. I took 1/4 pill (5 mg) of Cialis every night and things couldn't have gone better. I had zero problems at all.

 

Probably doesn't hurt that 2.5mg & 5mg dosages are available for every day use. Talk to your doc....he can probably write you a script for the 30 day dosage...and then you can get a manufacturer free trial coupon so you won't have to pay a cent for it. According to my pharmacist, you can use a free trial every 6 or 12 months (I can't recall which).

[midnightplayer 135]

Which Indian product works the best for those of you that have gone generic from Canada, Do you have a favorite Canadian online Pharmacy for Cialis?

[GoldCoCouple 4,065]

Unless I'm wrong, the patient for Viagra doesn't expire until 2019 in the US so I don't see how there can be a generic available yet. At best, it is estimated it will be 2017 before a generic is available.

 

Viagra to go generic in 2017 according to Pfizer agreement - CBS News

 

Pfizer caught

 

I had a prescription for it from my Dr. but even with insurance 5 pills cost me $75. While it would be nice to have some again, its price is just crazy (I mostly used it for my screwed up psyche and a harsh religious upbringing). Not that I need it now anymore (said while pounding on my chest), feel free to message me with where you are getting it and I'll check the place out and make sure it's reputable...

[Chris&Suzanne 204]

Pharmacy price for 30 day Cialis is $220.00 with no insurance, and you can use the free coupon every 12 months. That is my experience

[NYFlirts 158]

A friend out on the West Coast said his Kaiser hospital has an Rx for generic Viagra. I think he said it ends up at like $1.50 a pill for 20 mg.

[J&Wu 408]

I do want to try Cialis to compare, but I don't want to drive my doctor crazy or have him think I am sex obsessed. I will try to get it in Mexico on our next Desire trip.

 

I have been using Cialis for several years, I chose it over Viagra or Levitra because it has an 18 hour 1/2 life as opposed to 4.5 hours with Viagra. That translates to 24 hours or so of fucking instead of 6 hours or less assuming stamina and stimulus. My insurance only allows 6 of whichever I choose a month so 6x20 mg Cialis is way more cost effective.

 

Pill splitters are cheap and accurate but I need the full 20 mg Cialis, I tried splitting because I get some problems with swallowing food and with vision on Cialis 20 mg. I use Cialis 5gm daily without side effects but that dose won't support intercourse for me but helps some for masturbation.

 

The Cialis concept is cool but I am looking at shorter acting alternatives again because of the side effects. I would even consider injecting alprostadil.

[J&Wu 408]

This thread bothers me... I'm not trying to be Ms. Judgy Pants (well... maybe?) but taking these w/o a script? splitting pills? The last thing I want is for a play partner to have a heart attack while he is doing me... js...

 

And now I'm going to be a hypocrite (which I'd like to point out that I'm totally okay with this) and wonder if DH's doc would be Mr. Judgy Pants if we told him we wanted the pills for the purpose of swinging....? Any thoughts on this?

 

If he or she is a good Doc they will be sure their Swinger patients are up to date on their immunizations including the Hepatitis A/B series and offer frank nonjudgemental counseling regarding safe sex. Maybe run a baseline STD screen and offer annual followup.

[junglecouple 127]

just a couple of days ago, I bought Cialis at an HEB in Mexico...16 tablets @20mg = $300 = $18.75 each. I just felt more comfortable buying from a company like HEB. Locally my cost (of course insurance doesn't cover it) is $48.50 per pill...(my RX was for 10 @ 20mg = $480). That's almost expensive enough to just hire a hooker and let her do ALL the work... LOL just kidding.

[J&Wu 408]

OK, sounds good.

 

For a rush, maybe I can snort the powder that falls off after I split the pill :smile:

You could exercise your tongue and lick it up! But it is a little bitter, might not be real good for the esophagus.

[njbm 2,868]

I tried Cialis 5 mg that was given to me as a sample by a urologist. I took it a couple of hours before playing with my wife, with whom I have never had a problem. I did feel that the quality of my erection was improved.

 

We will be going to a house party. I expect to take 5 mg before the party. I am debating taking 5 mg the night before, also. Any thoughts?

 

I bought generic Viagra in Mexico last March. I think it is called Maxifort. It worked!

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

njbm said:

We will be going to a house party. I expect to take 5 mg before the party. I am debating taking 5 mg the night before, also. Any thoughts?

 

Yes. You need a new urologist if she or he did not instruct you on how to use this drug before handing out a sample.

[njbm 2,868]

He told me to take the lowest effective dose. I think that was sound advice. But I know that some people take 10 or even 20 mg for a weekend of use. Sorry, it is new to me (Cialis) and I just wanted to see how others experienced it.

[Guest]

I'm more than happy when a guy can go for four hours; I don't think I would survive 18 hours worth. I would need some type of automatic lube injector installed.

[njbm 2,868]

We were out to dinner with vanilla friends. The husband received a cell phone call from their relatively young daughter who was on a date. The wife asked what was up. The husband said "Our daughter's date has had an erection for the last four hours and they want to know what to do." We laughed. He was kidding.

[J&Wu 408]

I tried Cialis 5 mg that was given to me as a sample by a urologist. I took it a couple of hours before playing with my wife, with whom I have never had a problem. I did feel that the quality of my erection was improved.

 

We will be going to a house party. I expect to take 5 mg before the party. I am debating taking 5 mg the night before, also. Any thoughts?

 

Cialis hits its peak blood level about 1-2 hours after taken and then falls off gradually over about 36 hours. I use 20 mg an hour or so before playing and every 24 hours if I am fucking daily. I don't find lower doses effective but the side effects are not pleasant. I have tried Viagra just to shorten the side effect time and see if they were more tolerable. I need 100 mg but I think the erection is harder and the side effects are different and of shorter duration.

 

Have fun, always good to try a lower dose first with your regular partner to get a handle on what dose you need to get hard and what side effects you might have to contend with.

[J_and_T 15]

NYFlirts said:

A friend out on the West Coast said his Kaiser hospital has an Rx for generic Viagra. I think he said it ends up at like $1.50 a pill for 20 mg.

 

I wonder if the Dr. prescribed revatio. Look it up, it says it is the same active ingredient (sildenafil) as Viagra but used to treat a different ailment.

[NYFlirts 158]

Update: I've been taking a single Cialis pill (5 mg) about 1.5 hours before I think I might need it. If I take it with less time, it seems like it hasn't gone through my system yet.

 

Sometimes I do 2 pills when I'm really worried about performing... like this one girl I've been flirting with for 8 months kept saying she's getting depressed that 90% of guys in the LS can't keep it hard with her. I was DETERMINED to make sure I didn't contribute to that statistic, and I'm happy to report everything went perfectly!

 

I'm still very frustrated that I can't find consistency with when / why I sometimes can't get or maintain an erection. I DO know it's 100% in my head and a mental issue since I've never once had a problem with my wife and never had problems with a girl I was dating for 5 months.

 

On a related note: Not only do I have a hard time finding consistency / attribution for when I can't get hard, I also have a hard time determining if 5 mg is enough, or 10 mg, or maybe just none. SUPER frustrating!

[GoldCoCouple 4,065]

NYFlirts: I hear you...the inside of a guy's head can be a very frightening place.

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

On the TV commercials they tell us what not to do with Viagra. What they should tell us is "best when taken with routine exercise, watching you weight, getting plenty of sleep, and drinking cool, mountain water instead of beer and whiskey."

[njbm 2,868]

Ny Flirts: If you have Viagra, I find it is best on an empty stomach with an hour or so to go until sex. Still, never know what will happen.

[jbcoke8 18]

Saw my doc for a check up the other day and asked for a refill on Viagra that he had gave me a couple years before (recreational use in practice). He gave the script for 100 mg and we discussed that I cut it with a pill cutter because I respond well to a lower dose and he was fine with it. I mentioned that V use sometimes gives me a headache and asked did he have any trial doses for Cialis. He said no but wrote me a script for Cialis (20 mg) and said try both and see which one works better. Very easy conversation, talk to your Doc!

[Numex 2,409]

SW_PA_Couple said:

You guys are taking chances by ordering "Viagra" from India..

 

The only side effect that I've had is my head bobbling from side to side.