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Ok this is just a general question, just wanting opinions. Wife and have been going to a swing club for about 2 years now, hooked up with a few cpls, not a lot 2-3, but had a lot of fun. Sometimes just me and her play while watching others too. I would like to think we both enjoyed it.

 

Prior to that we had done MFM with an ex BF of hers, she enjoyed it. I loved watching (and messing with her at same time) that was a long time ago when we were in our mid 30s. We just turned 50s. That MFM was short lived, about 2-3 week span with only about 3-4 meets. He was the one who moved on.

 

So since then, there was a long period of no play. But that's not the only thing that stopped us, we now had a family to deal with. Started up again since kids are now bigger and self sufficient. So that is our back ground.

 

Now for what's currently going on. We love to go to reg dive bars (as well as the swing club) lol, you know the kind where one knows your name lol. Well we have gotten to know a few people there at one of our favorite places and their drama (DAMN more drama than the swing club).

 

Well we really got to know this guy that frequents there a bit. He is a really nice guy, gets flirty with all the girls, loud when drunk. My wife enjoys his company, he is about our age if not a little older. He is a tall good looking black man (we are Hispanic). We've played pool, darts, gotten drunk together at the bar. Basically had a lot of bar fun that was it.

 

The second to the last time we saw him, in a drunken discussion we all agreed to meet at his apartment the next morning for steak BBQ (my wife even told him she'd bring the salad lol), just saying we were all wasted.

 

The next time we saw him he asked "what happened?" We told him the truth, we were all f'ed up, my wife didn't even remember the salad statement she made.

 

Well that night we closed the bar.... again. This time he asked us if we wanted to come over to his apartment, which we discovered is right across the street from the bar and that a lot of the people that we know and frequent the same bar also live at the complex.

 

We went with the intention of just seeing where it was just in case we ever decided to get together again we would know where it was, plus I was kind of curious as to see what his "pad" looked like. My wife looked at me and stated "you know he's probably gonna wanna fuck", I just blew her off. He was very flirty with her at the bar, making comments like "girl, if he wasn't here", and "man, you lucky dog I know your gonna hit that tonite". I was not insulted as I know that was a great ego boost for my wife :facelick:.

 

He showed us around. It was a small place, but big enough for a single guy. We talked for a while. Then I had to go pee. After a little while, probably about 20-45 minutes, I felt we had stayed enough and said goodbye and left (we had closed the bar so it was way past 2 a.m.). Nothing eventful. So I thought.

 

The next day while wife and I went out, I started asking what she really thought of him. I found him very cocky, too loud when drunk, even probably better in bed just by his stature. On the plus side he was great to be around, life of the party, he enjoyed doing what we were doing.

 

I was surprised, she told me she liked him and found him fun to be with (no neg, not even the over flirty with the women in the bar). I asked her straight out would you fuck him? She stated yes (this does not bother me, we usually talk). I asked her would you have fucked him that night? She again stated yes but that I was the one who wanted to leave (again, I guess it was my misunderstanding, but I did not get a vibe that he wanted to do anything that night that he was just being cordial).

 

She then told me... oh yeah, he wanted to fuck. While I was in the bathroom and he was showing her some family pictures hanging on the wall, he grabbed her, pulled her close and kissed her with tongue and she kissed him back. He stated again to her that if I was not in the picture, he would be doing a lot of stuff to her right now.

 

I was not mad, I guess becauseof all his comments at the bar I figured he was hot for her, I just didn't think he wanted to do anything now.

 

What do you guys think? I have a lot of issues with him being loud. You know the code at the club, is way different, (we are there to play and so are you... so no tell). I like my privacy and don't want to be outed. The part of my wife wanting to fuck him really excites me, but I keep getting the thoughts, he wants her to "cheat on me" which is kinda of stupid because I would so let it happen as long as I was there too (we have never played apart and it's not gonna happen... plus she's always been greedy, the more dicks the better)

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I'd have issues with him kissing my wife and coming on to her while I was in the bathroom! Sounds like the guy doesn't even know you swing and he is trying to get in her head by saying things like "if your husband wasn't in the picture..." Um, not for me and it wouldn't have flown with my husband either.

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Pretty much vanilla bar, regular hangout, loud, drunk, folks with drama..., it all adds up to exposure! Too bad, because he would make a great candidate otherwise.

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All chemistry aside, this guy doesn't respect your relationship and cannot be trusted.

 

If he could truly be an anonymous lay, I'd say roll your dice and have fun. That's not the case... He knows people that you know, and is part of the social scene you regularly engage in. The fact that he's willing to be duplicitous and disrespectful with this much overlap should tell you all you need to know about his character...

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The most important part of swinging to us is that our relationship is respected, by us and others. This guy just wants to fuck your wife. He might agree to do it with you there just so he can do it. But don't expect him to respect your boundaries.

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Pretty much vanilla bar, regular hangout, loud, drunk, folks with drama..., it all adds up to exposure! Too bad, because he would make a great candidate otherwise.

 

Exactly! It's not about him making advances toward her, he was very flirty with her in the bar in front of me, and with other females also that is his personality which I was ok with. The fact that this is a vanilla bar is my prob. I guess what I should have asked was. Has any body regretted picking up someone in bar like this, especially if it is your hang out? We don't come in and announce our intentions of having someone join us for a MFM but when you meet someone you like and especially your wife likes... What do you do. ???

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See, this guy is not a Swinger. He is a cheater. Pass.

 

Now, have I ever picked up a guy in a vanilla bar ? Yes , I have. But none of them ever did anything that approached the sneaking around that this guy was doing. If they had, that would mean they'd be eliminated immediately.

 

One time, at a a vanilla party, where the guy knew my husband was there, he came onto me aggressively. I said,"Hi, I think sex with you would be fun, but it's with my husband's cooperation, not behind his back." I recommend your wife take the same perspective. You have to remember in a Swing environment having sex with someone new is normal. In a vanilla environment, that is not normal, however, cheating is.

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See, this guy is not a Swinger. He is a cheater. Pass. . .

 

The OP's story is long but I took the time to go back and read it again. The guy might not be a swinger but tell me, folks. What did you read that make you think he is a cheater? ? ?

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Who's the "cheater"? As for as I understand the black guy is single and the guy who posted the OP is married. So where did "cheater" come into play? Seems like the black guy wants the wife to cheat on the husband. Since the OP did mention that the black guy does not know that they are swingers.

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Alright, let's just say he's a participatory infidellic. Whoopsidaisy. Yet, my opinion stands.

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participatory infidellic

 

Woah that's a new one;)

 

Anyone who grabbed my wife and kissed her while basically suggesting she get rid of me for some fun with him would be gone in an instant.

 

Try being around him sober, it might not be the great experience you all seem to think it is when pissed!

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And in the unlikely event you guys fall into an mfm, you might find yourself doing a lot of watching. He doesn't sound like he shares well.

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I don't think he qualifies as a cheater, since he's single and just following society's guidelines. It's probably better to pass, but since your wife likes him, it might be worth it for the three of you (or you and him) to meet for coffee and explain your situation. Be very upfront about swinging, your rules and boundaries and what you expect to happen when you play and after. He might be cool or he might think you are complete wierdos ("I could never share my girl...") Then you'll have a better idea. Meet him sober with no intention to bbq or fuck, then go home and talk about his responses.

 

I think this is a very interesting situation and I'd love to hear how it pans out.

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funcoupledayton said:
I don't think he qualifies as a cheater, since he's single and just following societies guidelines.

 

He's not following society's guidelines though. He is aware that they're married. He has approached her secretly, and made clear his desire to bypass the husband. This is intentional and fully aware deceit. This is a man that has no respect for someone else's relationship or boundaries, and is completely OK with inciting behavior that could destroy a relationship (remember he doesn't know you guys swing).

 

Think about the same behavior with money instead of sex. What if he were trying to get your wife to give him money behind your back. What if he KNEW she wasn't supposed to, but was pressuring her to give it anyway. What if the money he was asking for was a family nest-egg, and he knew it, and was still OK with trying to get her to secretly give it (not loan) to him...

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christnthms said:

He's not following society's guidelines though.

 

I agree with what you're saying 100%!!! The husband needs to understand that this guy did something to his wife that is totally disrespectful!! Yeah, we understand that this guy flirts with his wife and he has no problems with that. The line was crossed when he approached and kissed his wife and saying what he said. Even if the guy knew that they were swingers, it would still be wrong for him to wait for the OP to leave the room so he can do what he did! It's just disrespectful all the way around!! Speaking for myself and if this had happened to my SO and myself, I really don't think it would be a chance to sit with him and work anything out!! This guy knew exactly what he was doing drunk or not, hell he was sober enough to tell her that if her husband wasn't in the pic the things he could do with her.

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I think our society's guidelines are - if you are attracted to a married person, act on that attraction without their spouse's knowledge. It's not right, but many people have affairs, and it is acceptable or a fact of life for many. Most people haven't considered swinging or open relationships. Many people think affairs are more acceptable than swinging.

 

This guy is not a swinger. Whether he's a jerk or not is up for debate. He may be able to be respectful when he learns more and is sober.

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By your description of how he came on to your wife when you were in the bathroom I believe he just wants to screw your wife. Some mfm's are really just one guy watching while another guy has sex with the woman. Nothing wrong there it's just what happens.

 

I don't think I personally would pursue this with him. I think he is looking for a fwb and would not mind cutting you out of the picture. I prefer it if the guy asks me if he can have sex with my wife. We do not do many mfm's . Don't get me wrong, it's fun to screw my wife silly. With another man there, just is not enough action for me. Watching a man have sex with my wife for a hour or so is just not that appealing to me.

 

I would be worried that man would be telling every one he knows that he is boinking your wife. To much drama there for me. Besides your describing the situation and how it is going down sounds to me like you are trying to hang on to your wife while she is slowly leaving you... my feelings are that you might be justifying out loud what she is doing is not cheating. I might be way off... it just does not sit well with me that you are going to dive bars and she is flirting around and you are not getting anything out of it. For my wife and myself when we swing it is mutually beneficial. I could be reading this wrong and you might have a great marriage. I just do not really see the point of hitting the bars and then ending up at some guy's house.

 

I say run don't walk from this situation.

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81lizard69 said:
For my wife and myself when we swing it is mutually beneficial. I could be reading this wrong and you might have a great marriage. I just do not really see the point of hitting the bars and then ending up at some guy's house.

 

I say run don't walk from this situation.

 

I'm not saying whether you are right or wrong in your assessment of this situation. However, it isn't up to you decide whether this situation is mutually beneficial or not. He might get much more pleasure out of his wife screwing other guys than he does out of screwing other girls. Just saying...

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I don't think he qualifies as a cheater, since he's single and just following society's guidelines.

Thanks I agree. Somehow the issue got way off track. I should clarify. When I stated I had concerns that I felt like he was trying to cheat with my wife, it was that I felt he did not have to try to do that. His flirting, which included the kissing did not bother me. I am all for my wife having fun especially if she finds him attractive and nice to hang out with. I am very secure with my marriage especially since we have both played with others. My main concern was that all this was happening at a regular bar. If this were to happen at the swing bar we like to go, there would be no question we'd all be in the back getting it on. I'm just not too sure about hooking up with someone at a bar we like to frequent at

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It's hard to tell what he would do or what it would be like coming out of a vanilla bar. We have hooked up with a couple out of a vanilla bar scene and They never told a person... I think it would be ok. You never have to go back to that bar... and he might drift to another bar after your encounter. It is hard to tell.

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I see TOO many :redflag: in your situation for me to consider proceeding. The biggest one being that he made a move on your wife when you were out of the room. He has no knowledge that you swing, and her reaction told him that she was a hot wife willing for some action on the side.

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Thanks for everyone's input. Just giving you guys an update.

 

Since wife found him attractive I kinda gave her the go ahead, and if things happened...they happened. Which to date, nothing has... Lol.

 

I think through the hinting and "trying to get together at his place for drinks" he has figured we would like to play MFM. But so far there been obstacles.

 

First as told in this story there was miscommunication with me and wife, I did not think he was interested but she told me after we left he was. Lol by 2nd meet at bar when we got to his apartment, which is a plus right across, he had gotten off of work and was tired... So he passed out. 3rd time we were at the bar taking it easy playing pool letting wife kick our butts, getting her in the mood to play. It was dead, just a few people, about thtee others. We decide to take a break and sit at a table and finish our drinks and just as we were about to leave to his place, in comes a small crowd of 4 girlfriends of wife so they all sit with us and the drinking and having fun commence. Music is playing and wife is dancing with the guy and he tells her he can't wait to take her back home. She tells him... It ain't happening tonite lol. One of the girls there lives opposite of him, which is ok I guess. BUT, one of the other girls there is a real gossip AND she was gonna spend night with her instead going across town back to her place lol ...

 

Oh well on the plus we all a great time. I told my wife, if this happened at our other club, we would all gone to the big room and had a lot more fun than just dancing. lol

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Ok on a previous post I had asked about wife and I hooking up with a person from a regular bar, answers varied. NOW I have a different question.

 

We did end up hooking up with person which I mentioned in previous posts. Wife and I are Hispanic and in our early 50's. He is in mid 40's and black male. I have wanted to see her play with such a male for a while. We have known him for a few months, usually play pool, hang out and after a few conversations hinted of our wanting to play. Which he seemed interested too. His place was close to the bar we frequent and we ended up going to his place to "hang out".

 

Well one thing lead to another and we all ended up naked and in his bed playing with my wife. He was very well endowed and at first sight she was excited but after, wife said she had trouble servicing him oral and even less sexually to the pointed she told me that she was not interested in playing with a guy with such a big member again because it hurt too much. I texted him that he should keep KY available which he did not have.

 

Well we ended together again a few days later and this time he used KY. VERY Big difference she was like a kid with a new toy we all had a great time. And this time she stated she would not mind having him as a regular male to play with.

 

Ok now for the problem. We just got together a 3rd time. It was ok. But he kept bragging about his oral abilities (which I was ok with, his bragging I mean) BUT throughout the night that's all he did... Not brag, but only oral. We spent about 3-4 hrs with him and he actually only had sex with her about twice for a few minutes. He would start pumping her for a while then go back to oral. That was just getting old, she thought so too.

 

But the real problem was when someone kept calling him on his cell and he'd walk off to another room for 10-15 minutes to talk to this person. I asked who it was, he said it was his adult college kid calling about school activities? We know he's been having problems with a girl he says he is not serious with and we feel this was her (no she does not know of this, though she might suspect as he told her he was interested in swinging with her, but she said it was out of the question).

 

I felt as him stopping to answer his phone and going out in the middle of this was inconsiderate and disrespectful. I understand you have see what's going on maybe one or two calls, but this went on several times. Wife said maybe we should just stay away for a while till he gets his "stuff" together. I told her I was really upset by his inconsiderate behavior and would not care if we hook up any more, plus if it was the girl calling, I don't want the drama.

 

What do you guys think? Sorry about the long story, just wanted you all to know what was going on.

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I agree that it was very inconsiderate. Maybe you should talk to him about it. And, also, talk to him about what you enjoy most about being with him and that oral was just a bit too much.

 

Always remember that in swinging, you can say what you think. That's one of the best perks! :)

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It's hard to know for sure without asking him. But, it seems like he is perhaps cheating and just doing oral so he doesn't feel like it is really cheating?

 

I would probably have put my clothes on and left during the second phone call. If it's an emergency, he should tell you and end the play; if not he should ignore the calls, or say, I'm in the middle of something I'll call you back in a couple hours.

 

If you really like him, talk to him. If you don't really care, I'd let it go and just find someone else. Personally I would lean toward finding someone else, this guy just seems like too much work.

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I think it's inconsiderate to answer the phone while playing unless it is an emergency. However, I also think it's rude to ask him who it was. It's really none of your business and if it bothered you, you should of left.

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There are more fish in the sea.. I have found that after playing with another couple or person there real personality comes out. I think it is impossible to hide who you really are for a long time. Thats why we call it swinging or playing, not keeping. Find a new guy that is part of the fun.

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As a single guy, this is not behavior I'd expect people to put up with....phones have voicemail, even if you do take a call you can tell them to call back, not go on for 15 minutes while people wait in an intimate situation.

 

There are no shortage of single guys in the lifestyle, of all makes and models. If you are going to continue to have fun and feel good about it, you should keep looking for someone who is more considerate of your time. There's some serious drama ahead while this guy tries to juggle whatever balls he has in the air...no pun intended

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latin2012, I took a glance at your first post when you started this topic about this single male and I have to say...I probably would have advised you to stay away from this male. He doesn't understand the privilege you two are giving him to invite you two to explore your sexuality. He sounds and acts like a regular vanilla male who probably has it in his mind that you can't satisfy your wife so she goes to him, he might be entertaining thoughts of how it would be if you weren't in the picture, and he doesn't seem to really respect the relationship you two have (kissing her when you are in the bathroom). And I haven't even gotten to the new information you have provided in this thread!

 

As for the situation above, if you really want to keep him as a play partner, then you should communicate with him that your wife enjoys more penetrative sex with him than oral sex. And for the phone calls, all of you are really to blame about that. If he was really considerate, he would have said, "Hey, I have an emergency and I hate to do this but I'm going to have to postpone our fun for another time." And you two should have excused yourselves and said, "We can tell there's some kind of emergency you have to take care of right now, we should postpone this for another time." Whether you know or not if it was an emergency (and even if it wasn't) he clearly had his mind elsewhere. That's not very fun for anyone involved.

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If you're not having amazing sex while swinging with this guy, why are you bothering ? There are plenty of sex partners that you can have amazing sex with. This sounds like wayyyyyyyy to much work for too little payoff.

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Ok on a previous post I had asked about wife and I hooking up with a person from a regular bar, answers varied. NOW I have a different question, we did end up hooking up with person which I mentioned in previous posts.

 

I went ahead and merged your threads for ease of reading and understanding of the situation.

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There are more fish in the sea.. I have found that after playing with another couple or person there real personality comes out.
I agree there are a lot of fish out there, and plenty that have no problem with wanting to fuck your wife. Problem is finding the right one. We have be getting to know this guy for about 4-5 months if not more but have only talked to him about sexual play and have only gotten together about 3-4 weeks ago sexually. I know what you mean, just not that easy, if you want the right male it takes a good amount of effort.

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He sounds and acts like a regular vanilla male who probably has it in his mind that you can't satisfy your wife so she goes to him, he might be entertaining thoughts of how it would be if you weren't in the picture, and he doesn't seem to really respect the relationship you two have (kissing her when you are in the bathroom).

 

He is and isn't vanilla. To us he is, but had told (after we all been together)

he had told us he has swung with other cpl and as a cpl before.

 

The part of him wanting to solo, and considering him cheating was already resolved as that me and wife are very secure in our relationship, she loves cock but is not gonna leave me for anyone and we will tell each other everything as when she told me about the kiss. And we have found out after first play he has no problem sharing.

 

 

As for the situation above, if you really want to keep him as a play partner, then you should communicate with him that your wife enjoys more penetrative sex with him than oral sex.

I think so too, as he was very receptive of my suggestion to use lube when doing my wife since his member was too big and wife did not have fun. Second time she was left in heaven we came home had more sex and kissed a lot. I have never told her that many "I love you" before lol

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sandraandalex said:
If you're not having amazing sex while swinging with this guy, why are you bothering?

First time to me was a learning try. Second time was.. Amazing which is what made wife want to try a third and maybe keeping him as regular, which would have been perfect. Don't know now just thinking about backing off for a while see where it goes

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funcoupledayton said:
it seems like he is perhaps cheating and just doing oral so he doesn't feel like it is really cheating?

 

Lol I was wondering the same thing too after we went home. I asked my wife about it. I could imagine the conversation going like "of course not baby, I'm not fucking anyone else" lol

 

Or maybe he was having trouble getting hard which I asked my wife and from what I saw he never really got rock hard... Was thinking maybe he was having difficulty concentrating cuz of all the calls

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Thanks everyone for your comments.

 

Just wanted to give you all an update

 

But first to let all those know that we never considered him trying to cheat, as 1 he was single. 2 we were the ones initiating the MFM.

 

Ok now for the update, after a long amount of tries/failures we finally ended up hooking up several times. First time, as soon as she saw how huge his cock she was excited and wondered if she'd be able to enjoy it. Even with his oral skill he was still too large for her to totally enjoy. After that we have been with him several more time and her oral skills have improved where she is able to take all of him orally. And with the use of lube she has been able to take his 12" vaginally. He also had her in positions that I have never had her in (missionary with legs to her head, kneeling edge of bed with him standing among some) all in all we have had quite a bit of fun. Thanks for you replies.

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If this had all occurred the first or second night after you met him, I might concur with the "cheater" opinion. But, your wife and you have been flirting with him for quite a well. The two of you have MFM sex in mind, she has communicated sexual interest and possibly willingness. Even on the walk over, she communicated that she thought it was for sexual purposes. To what degree did she communicate this to him? Did she "position" herself in a manner that would invite the grab and kiss? Many guys are savvy enough to detect sexual interest but it never occurs to them that its for an MFM. The flirting back at the bar needs to be three-way flirting, not two way flirting. When he says how lucky you are or how much he would like to with her, perhaps you should comment on how she is just too much for one guy or on your willingness to share or something similar that suggests it can happen but only with your approval and/or participation.

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      His name was E and he owned his own business. He was very handsome so I really didn’t care about that information.  As we started our second drink together, husband arrived.  I now knew where this was going. 
       
      The three of us had a nice dinner and did some dancing.  E- then asked if I wanted to get out of there. I knew what that meant, so I eagerly said yes.
       
      The three of us to our hotel room.  J made us some drinks while E started to caress and kiss me.  The drapes to our room were open.  As admiring the beautiful Dallas skyline, E slipped my dress off which sank to the floor.  He asked me to keep my shoes on.  I watched our reflections as E kissed me all over.  He lifted me up and pressed me against the window. The glass was cold against my bare breasts but I didn’t care as E’s hot breath kept me warm.  Soon he pushed me onto the bed.
       
      I pushed myself away from him, turned around, got on my knees and unzipped his pants, revealing a nice, uncut cock. I gave E the experience of his life, sucking him off in front of the window. I started slow and methodical, but after warming up starting sucking him at a feverish pace. He groaned, occasionally telling me how good it felt and how I was a good little cock sucker.  His hand grabbed my head, pulling me deeper into him. I took every inch of him in, then felt his cum shooting into the back of my throat as he gave a deep groan.  He held me there as I took all of his cum in, swallowing every drop. As his half hard cock left me mouth, I looked up at him, giving both him and J a mischievous grin.
       
      He took forced me back onto the bed and started licking my cunt. I felt my first orgasm of the evening come over me as he licked my cunt, tongued my clit, and fingered my asshole. 
      As I came down from my orgasm, I felt his hard cock slip into my soaking wet pussy. He asked if he needed a condom.  I said “No, I want your raw cock in me."
       
      His cock started sliding in and out, in and out. The whole time he whispered in my ear, telling me how good my pussy made him feel... how tight it was... how wet it was. How naughty of a girl I was for taking in the cock of a man I just met.
       
      He moved me over onto my hands and knees. He kept sliding in and out of me, dominating my pussy as he fucked me hard.  "Oh yeah, fuck me." I said to him. He started thrusting harder into me. I felt my second orgasm of the night building. "Don't stop, I'm going to cum."
       
      My body gave out as my second orgasm overtook me. Holy shit did that feel good. Just as I began to come down from it, I felt him give a big thrust and cum deep inside my unprotected pussy.
       
      He collapsed onto my back, his heavy body pressing me into the bed. "God you're so sexy," he growled into my ear.
       
      We laid together in silence on the bed as J watched us basking in the afterglow of our fucking. I then felt J on the bed.  He was on his back with a nice erection.  I took him into my mouth then J said, "Ride me please."  I straddled J and started riding his cock. 
       
      J then grabbed my waist and pinned me.  I then felt E working a lubed finger into my ass.  I slowed my pace and steadied my breath as I took his entire finger in my ass.  I bit my lip and waited for the next step.  I then felt E slip his cock into my ass.  I now had my husband in my cunt and my new lover in my ass.  The two men started fucking me in earnest.  "Fuuuuccckkkk..." I groaned as his cock entered me again. J and I did anal sex all the time, but this was a bigger cock than I was used to plus J was in my pussy making every hole tighter.  I simply hung on for the ride of my life. 
       
      After letting my ass adjust to E’s cock, he started thrusting into me, very slow and methodically at first. He then started fucking me like his life depended on it.  It didn't take long until my most powerful orgasm yet overtook me. I let out a groan-scream as my ass pulsed around his cock.
       
      E and J kept fucking me through my orgasm, gradually picking up the pace. Then the let out a groan and came inside ass and cunt. My holes were now filled with cum. 
       
      It was the best Saturday of my life.  Counting the masseur, I took two loads in my mouth, two in my cunt, and one in my ass.  After E left, J and I cuddled and drifted off to sleep.  I had the sweetest of dreams.
    • By xxoticangel
      Lately we have both been having a fantasy that I'm not sure how to make reality. I'm not even sure we want to.
       
      Basically the fantasy is we both go out to the same vanilla club as singles. I do the single girl thing of flirting and dancing with hubby acting as back-up from across the room. At some point during the night I choose one guy and have sex with him in the parking lot. Hubby will be close to offer protection if something goes wrong but otherwise will not be known to my partner.
       
      My question is 1) Do you think it is possible to pull this off safely? 2) Since we have always insisted on same room swinging would this damage our relationship? 3) Has anyone else had this same fantasy or actually gone through with it?
    • By Lionheart72
      The following is a work of fiction, the product of my own pervy imagination. Enjoy.
       
      "I'm just saying," Dan said quietly, "conference sex is a thing."
       
      "Geez, honey," Jenn rolled her eyes. "It's a work conference, not one of your pervy fantasies."
       
      The airport crowds flowed around the young couple, people drifting in and out of shops and food stands or making their way to the security lines that stood between them and their flights.
       
      "Why can't it be both?" Dan grinned.
       
      "Perv," Jenn growled, but she knew wouldn't have him any other way.
       
      "All I'm saying is..." Dan started.
       
      "... that if some guy tries to pick me up at the hotel bar, you're ok with me *fucking* him," Jenn whispered hotly. She couldn't deny the flutter in her stomach, or perhaps a bit lower down, the thrill at the very idea.
       
      "Well..." Dan flushed.
       
      "You're a perv," Jenn replied with an amused grin. "Have fun with the house to yourself. Try not to spend the whole time I'm gone jerking off to porn."
       
      "No promises," Dan grinned back.
       
      <<<>>>
       
      "You can do this," Jenn told herself, nervously, tugging at the hemline of the slinky black dress. "You want to do this. It will be fun."
       
      She was fairly certain buying the little dress in the first place had been Dan's idea. He'd said she would look hot in it. Considering her reflection in the hotel room mirror, Jenn had to admit he had a point. The dress's little spaghetti straps left her shoulders bare, showing off her fair skin down to the swell of her breasts - not huge, but not bad, she thought. The dress clung to her curves, emphasizing the tight belly she worked hard to maintain. The hemline was worrying. It was low enough to be decent, but seriously bordered on slutty. Tugging the hem down had helped a little, until she noticed that her tits were now in danger of popping out the top.
       
      With a sign, she gave it up. Grabbing her little clutch purse, she walked out of the hotel room before she changed her mind.
       
      With a grin, she pulled her phone out of her purse. After all, half the point of doing this was to give Dan a thrill, and she couldn't do that if she didn't keep him in the loop. As she walked down the hotel hall, she hit speed dial.
       
      "Hi, honey. How's the conference?" Dan answered.
       
      "Boring seminars, pushy vendors, the usual," Jenn said breezily.
       
      "Having fun?" Dan sounded amused.
       
      "Oh yeah," Jenn replied, dripping sarcasm. "I just love it. What are you up to?"
       
      "Oh, you know... wild party, drinking, smoking pot, a bunch of naked coeds in the hot-tub begging to suck me off," Dan lied.
       
      Laughing, Jenn rolled her eyes. "You're bored and watching late-night TV, aren't you?"
       
      "How did you know?" Dan asked.
       
      "We don't have a hot-tub," Jenn pointed out.
       
      "Fair point," Dan conceded. "What are you up to?"
       
      "Well..." Jenn hesitated, suddenly nervous again.
       
      "What are you doing?" The sound of Dan's excitement was like ice and fire in her veins.
       
      "I thought I'd go down to the hotel bar," Jenn replied, trying to sound nonchalant.
       
      "Looking for a guy?" Dan said, teasing.
       
      "Perv," Jenn laughed, feeling that low-down flutter. "I'm meeting some friends for drinks... but..."
       
      "But what?" Dan said slowly.
       
      "Remember that little black dress you liked?" Jenn replied.
       
      "Yes?"
       
      With a wicked grin, Jenn noticed a mirror in the hallway. Striking as sultry a pose as she could, she snapped off pic with her phone and sent it.
       
      "Wow." His response was breathless.
       
      "I thought you'd get a kick out of that," Jenn teased, thrilled that his response was everything she'd wanted. She didn't, however, expect what came next... though in retrospect, she knew she probably should have.
       
      "Are you wearing panties?" Dan asked.
       
      "Yes... perv," Jenn replied, with a nervous laugh. Admittedly, the little black thong she had on under the dress wasn't much, but it was there.
       
      "Take 'em off," Dan said.
       
      "No," Jenn gasped, shocked.
       
      "Take your panties off," Dan insisted.
       
      "No," Jenn replied breathlessly. "You know how short this dress is."
       
      "Off. Right now."
       
      "Right... Dan, I'm in a hallway. I can't." Jenn laughed shakily. In fact, she'd reached the elevators at the end of the hall. Sure, it was empty now but someone could arrive at any moment. She could see herself reflected in the mirrored surface of the elevators doors, sexy in a slinky dress.
       
      Dan said nothing. He was just waiting, she knew, daring her to do it, to step the game up one more notch. The little low-down flutter had become a full, rolling wave... a sultry, hot, wet wave.
       
      Before she could lose her nerve, she reached up under the little dress and quickly pulled off her thong. Glancing at her reflection, she saw that, in the process, the perilously short hemline of her dress had been pushed from slutty to indecent. Flush with excitement, she pulled her dress up to allow an unobstructed peek at her pussy, snapped a quick pic of her reflection and sent it to Dan.
       
      "Beautiful," Dan panted over the phone.
       
      "I'll call you later, perv." Jenn's voice was husky to her own ears as she hung up.
       
      A second later the elevator dinged and the doors open.
       
      Jenn stood frozen, feeling sudden empathy for the proverbial deer caught in headlights. Despite her desperate desire to squeak and pull her dress down, she didn't move.
       
      Two men, plainly attendees at the same conference, stepped from the elevator, glancing at her with polite smiles. Both men froze suddenly. She saw their eyes widen as they took her in, her slinky black dress, her heaving cleavage, her hiked up skirt and the neatly trimmed landing strip of her naked pussy.
       
      Red-faced, one of the men looked quickly away and walked on past. The other man hesitated for a moment, drinking in the sight of her. Under his hot gaze, Jenn felt a surge of unmistakable desire. She made no move to cover herself. She didn't want to.
       
      "Good evening," the man said with a grin and then walked past her.
       
      Breathing heavily, Jenn stepped into the elevator and pushed the button for the lobby. It wasn't until she noticed her reflection the door again that she finally moved to fix her dress.
       
      <<<>>>
       
      Like what U C perv? Jenn's heart was racing as she fired off the text message to Dan, thinking about the picture she'd just sent.
       
      After inadvertently flashing the two men at the elevator, Jenn had been unable to concentrate on hanging out with her friends - really coworkers attending the conference with her. The talk, griping about work, supervisors and spouses, was all the same talk they had back home.
       
      Jenn's mind had kept wandering back to the elevator, to the looks the two men had given her as she stood there, bottomless. She couldn't shake the idea that Dan would love to hear about it, would probably ask why she hadn't fucked one of them. She thought about the second man, the long, hungry look he had given her, and wondered what she would have said, what she would have done, if he'd propositioned her.
       
      Finally, distracted from the banal chatter, she'd gotten up and gone over to the bar. Sitting at a bar stool, she'd felt her slinky black rise wickedly higher, felt the cool air teasing her naked thighs, and wondered how many of the guys were trying to peek up her skirt. That idea had started another wicked thought that grew in her mind until she had finally decided to give into it.
       
      As nonchalantly as possible, she'd taken out her phone, held it down by her knees and spread her legs. A quick click, and she'd taken a picture of her exposed pussy in a bar full of men, a picture which was now on its way to Dan along with her teasing text. She knew he'd love it.
       
      Glancing around the bar, she wondered if anyone had seen.
       
      After a few minutes, Dan hadn't replied to her text. She was disappointed before she realized the time difference might mean he hadn't seen it. She fired off another.
       
      JENN: U up? Haha
       
      Still no reply.
       
      "Excuse me, miss."
       
      Jenn jumped as the man's voice broke through her distraction.
       
      "Can I buy you a drink?" he asked, with a friendly smile.
       
      His name was Tim. He was staying at the hotel, attending the same conference she was. They talked for a while about the day's seminars, their respective workplaces, the hotel in general. Tim was friendly, flirty without being pushy, and Jenn found herself relaxing and enjoying herself. After a while, when Tim turned his attention to the bartender to refresh their drinks, she fired off another text to Dan, teasing that a guy had gotten her a drink.
       
      "Good phone," Tim said, looking back at her.
       
      "It's OK," Jenn shrugged.
       
      "Did the picture come out?" Tim said nonchalantly.
       
      "Picture?" Jenn felt suddenly hot and cold all at once. "What picture?"
       
      The bartender choose that moment to call Tim over, leaving Jenn shivering briefly in shock. She quickly fired off another text to Dan: OMG I think he saw me take that pic!
       
      By the time Tim got back, apologizing and explaining that there had been some error with his credit card, Jenn had managed to regain the appearance of calm, though her heart was pounding.
       
      "So," she said, trying to sound cool. "You saw me take a picture."
       
      "Maybe just a peek, really," Tim admitted with a barely hidden grin.
       
      "Really?" Jenn drawled, teasing.
       
      Tim just grinned, trying unsuccessfully to hide a glance down at her thighs. Jenn fidgeted in her seat.
       
      "So, who was it for?" Tim asked. "The picture. Was it for someone?"
       
      "My guy back home," Jenn admitted, feeling oddly relaxed about it suddenly. "Dan. He has these fantasies. I thought I'd indulge him a little."
       
      "Fantasies of you flashing at a bar?" Tim grinned.
       
      "Among other things," Jenn confessed, blushing.
       
      "Really?" Tim focused on his drink.
       
      Jenn leaned closer to him, speaking more softly. "Dan told me to take off my panties, before I came down to the bar."
       
      Tim's eyes flashed back down to her thighs again. "Did he? Had you leave them in your room."
       
      "No," Jenn said slowly. "They're in my purse. He had me take them off in the hallway."
       
      "He wants you to get seen, does he?" Tim's gaze rose to lock with Jenn's eyes. She felt a flush of heat rising in her cheeks and spreading down her neck.
       
      "Well, I did take a picture of my pussy in a bar full of people for him," she said.
       
      "How far do you want to go?" Tim's voice was low, husky.
       
      "What did you have in mind?" Jenn felt the blush spreading down her chest.
       
      "Give me your phone," Tim grinned.
       
      Slowly, Jenn slide it over. Grinning, Tim picked the phone up and took a couple of steps back.
       
      "Give ol' Dan a thrill," Tim said.
       
      Heart pounding, Jenn glanced around, looking at the other people around the bar. What the hell, she thought and spread her legs again on the barstool, exposing her bare pussy to Tim's gaze, and the gaze of anyone else who happened to look over. As Tim raised the phone to snap a pic, Jenn threw caution to the wind. With a quick motion, she grabbed the top of her slinky dress and pulled it down, flashing a naked tit too. Tim clicked the picture and stepped quickly back toward her.
       
      Hastily, Jenn covered herself again. Her heart was racing, and she was sure that blush covered her entire chest. The heat of it seemed to reach down toward the heat rising from her thighs. She wondered if Tim had noticed how wet her pussy was.
       
      Taking her phone back, she looked at the picture and smiled. Quickly, she sent it to Dan. She wondered if he would see it before morning.
       
      "There you go," Tim said smirking. "That ought to give ol' Dan what he wants."
       
      "Not even," Jenn laughed.
       
      "Really?" Tim looked intrigued. Leaning closer to her, he continued quietly, "You just flashed your tit -very nice tit, by the way - to like half the guys in this bar and at least a few of them will have noticed the 'no panties' bit too. What more does your guy want?"
       
      "Well," Jenn said, leaning closer too, until their faces were almost touching. "He has this fantasy."
       
      "What fantasy," Tim breathed.
       
      "He wants me to... fuck... another guy," Jenn's breath was coming in shallow gasps. "Like, here, at the conference. For real. Basically, he's a perv. Crazy, right?"
       
      "Crazy," Tim agreed.
       
      For a moment they just sat, their faces so close together. Jenn wondered if he was going kiss her.
       
      "What do you think?" Tim asked finally.
       
      "About what?" Jenn was puzzled.
       
      "About his fantasy."
       
      "I think..." Jenn paused. "I think I like it. I think... maybe I might do it. If I find the right guy."
       
      "Well," Tim leaned back suddenly, settling back in his seat. "If you find him, I'm sure you won't have any trouble convincing him."
       
      "Really," Jenn said, looking flatly at him. "Because I think maybe he might not be interested."
       
      "Not possible," Tim said. "If a beautiful, intelligent woman like you asked... I bet almost any guy here would jump at the chance."
       
      "You, sir, are a charmer and a gentleman," Jenn grinned.
       
      "Well, I try," Tim admitted with a smirk.
       
      "I am going back to my room now," Jenn said.
       
      "Well, good night."
       
      "Really? That's all? 'Good night'?"
       
      "Well..."
       
      "I am all alone here. My guy - the perv who wants me to fuck another guy, you recall - is all the way on the other side of the country. I have... no panties on and I am very... very horny. It seems to me that a gentleman would escort me back to my room. After all, anything could happen... anything."
       
      <<<>>>
       
      Jenn's hands shook as she fumbled to pull her hotel keycard from her purse.
       
      After her sultry almost-invitation in the bar, the ride up in the elevator had been oddly quiet. Tim had been calm, flashing his flirty smile but nothing more. Letting her take the lead, Jenn realized. She couldn't believe how nervous she felt. After all, she was only inviting a strange man she had just met at a conference up to her hotel room for sex because her guy... ok, she admitted, she could believe how nervous she was. What she couldn't believe was how excited she was, or how hard it was to take that stupid plastic card out of her purse.
       
      She jumped slightly when Tim's hand closed gently over her arm.
       
      "You don't have to do this, you know," he said softly.
       
      With that, her nervousness vanished as if it had never been. Slowly Jenn turned, her body brushing against Tim's as she reached up and kissed him. Her lips softly explored his. His arms closed around her, holding her firmly.
       
      "I want to," she breathed.
       
      His arms tightened around her, pulling her against him, kissing her with growing passion. She could feel his growing hardness pressing against her.
       
      "What do you want?" he said teasingly.
       
      "I want you to fuck me," Jenn panted.
       
      Tim dragged her mouth back to his, his lips and tongue hungrily exploring hers. His hands roamed over her back, reaching downward to cup her ass. Jenn moaned against him. She felt him pulling up the hem of her slinky little dress, felt his hands squeezing her naked ass, there in the hotel hallway. Her entire body quivered with desire.
       
      Pushing away enough to speak again, Jenn panted, "Let me... oohhh... let me open the door."
       
      Squirming in Tim's embrace, she managed to turn enough to face the door again and clawed at her purse for the keycard. Tim's hands continued to explore her body, squeezing her ass, rubbing along her side and her belly, reaching up to cup her breast. She managed to get the keycard out of her purse around the same time he pulled her dress down to expose her tits. His hard cock ground against her bare ass. She groaned as his fingers flicked over her sensitive nipple.
       
      "If you don't let me get this door open," Jenn moaned, "we are going to end up fucking in the hall."
       
      "Bet ol' Dan would love that," Tim muttered as he kissed her neck, his roaming fingers reaching around to brush along the wet folds of her naked pussy.
       
      Jenn groaned in response, forcing the keycard into the door and practically running inside as it finally opened.
       
      "Oh my god. This is so crazy," Jenn laughed as she heard the door swing close behind her. Unconsciously, her hands slid up her sides, moving to smooth her shirt.
       
      "Don't you dare," Tim chuckled.
       
      "What?" Jenn glanced over her shoulder at him, feeling a nervous flutter as she realized she was alone, in her hotel room, with him.
       
      "Don't fix your dress," Tim said. "Looks good just the way it is."
       
      "With my ass hanging out, you mean," Jenn smiled, her hands sliding down to cup her butt.
       
      "Exactly," Tim grinned. "You have a very nice ass."
       
      "You like it?" Jenn asked teasingly. "It's not too big?"
       
      "Your ass is firm and round. You have a beautiful ass," Tim replied. "Give me your phone."
       
      "My phone?" Jenn puzzled at the non-sequitur.
       
      "Well, I could take a picture with mine..." Tim said, reaching into his pocket.
       
      "Oh, no," Jenn replied, digging into her purse and tossing her phone to him. "That's how embarrassing pictures end up on the internet."
       
      "Precisely," Tim said, snapping a quick pic. "I mean, you wouldn't want to do anything crazy."
       
      "Absolutely not," Jenn laughed, cupping her ass and bending over slightly. "I am a very respectable woman, after all. I would never do anything wild or out of control. You know that, right?" She grinned as she looked back him, spreading her legs a little more.
       
      "Of course not," Tim nodded seriously. "And, after all, you're in a committed relationship so clearly you wouldn't want anyone to think you did anything inappropriate. Now turn around, so I can see your tits."
       
      Still laughing, Jenn turned, arching her back to show off her breasts. She couldn't believe she was doing this, standing in her hotel room, her slinky dress bunched up around her waist, letting a strange man snap pictures of her bare ass and tits... and pussy, she realized. Her smile faded as her breath quickened. Her eyes met Tim's and she saw, behind his joking and grins, a desire that reflected her own.
       
      For a long moment, they just stood there, facing each other across the room. Slowly, her eyes fixed on Tim's, Jenn slid the slinky dress's tiny spaghetti straps from her shoulders. She pushed the bunched fabric of the dress down past her hips, letting it slip down her legs to pool around her feet. Finally, she stepped out of her heels and took a step toward him.
       
      "You're gorgeous," Tim said huskily, then his teasing grin appeared again as he snapped another pic.
       
      "More pictures?" Jenn shook her head.
       
      "Well, I bet ol' Dan will get a thrill out of them," Tim replied lightly.
       
      "All right," Jenn said, stepping closer, moving quickly to hide her nervousness. "Let's take some pictures that will give him a real thrill."
       
      With firm deliberation, before she could chicken out, Jenn grabbed hold of Tim's slacks, undid the button and dropped to her knees in front of him.
       
      "Take some pictures that will really drive him wild," she said, forcing down Tim's zipper and pulling his pants down.
       
      "Oh my god," she breathed softly as Tim's dick jumped free of his boxers. Even only semi-erect, it was long, thick and veiny, plainly different from Dan's. So what, Jenn thought to herself as she wrapped quivering fingers around the thickening shaft. She'd seen other dicks. She'd held other dicks, but never a stranger's, and never while she was with another guy.
       
      Above her, Tim groaned in pleasure and that, it seemed, was enough to finally settle her nerves. Smiling, she looked up at him, at his face glazed with desire as she stroked his length. She looked up at the camera lens of her phone. Dan wanted this, she thought. He'd said so often enough. She'd sucked dick plenty of times before, she thought as her lips closed around Tim's thick tip. This time Tim would get to enjoy her mouth, enjoy her tongue swirling around him, and later Dan would get to enjoy seeing the pictures of his long, thick hard cock as it disappeared between her lips.
       
      "Oh, yes, that's so good," Tim moaned.
       
      Jenn quivered with desire. She felt nasty, kneeling there naked, eagerly bobbing her head up and down Tim's cock while he continued to take occasional pictures.
       
      "So good," Tim moaned again. "Oh yeah, so good. Fuck."
       
      "Yes," Jenn purred, keeping her lips against Tim's thick cock. "I want you to fuck me. Fuck me, Tim."
      Groaning, Tim pulled his cock from her warm mouth. His strong hands grabbed her shoulders and lifted Jenn to her feet. She shivered with excitement as he pushed her slowly backward toward the bed.
       
      "This what you want?" Tim growled, his eyes intense.
       
      "Yes," Jenn panted. "I want this."
       
      "You like sucking my cock?" Tim's hands firmly cupped Jenn's heaving tits, squeezing and caressing them. She moaned as he roughly played with her sensitive nipples.
       
      "Yes," Jenn gasped. "You have such a nice, big cock. I love sucking your cock. Now I want you to fuck me. Fuck me with your nice, big cock, Tim."
       
      She cried out as Tim pushed her roughly down onto the bed. Like an animal, he pounced over her. She moaned as his mouth latched onto her tits, roughly sucking and nipping at her sensitive mounds.
       
      "Oh, Tim," Jenn gasped as he kissed and bit down her side. "Hey, not so... oh, wow... oh... oh... Oh. My. God!" She cried out as he buried his face in her pussy. She arched her hips to meet him as his tongue parted her wet lips and lashed furiously against her clit. "Oh my god, oh my god, ohmygod! Yes, there. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh. Oooohhhh, myyyy, God!"
       
      Jenn's whole body arched in pleasure, quivering as her shockingly sudden orgasm ripped through her. She collapsed, panting, onto the bed.
       
      Shivering, she looked up to see Tim looming over her, tossing the last of his clothes away. Out of a staid business suit, he looked powerful, muscular and wild. His long, thick cock stood proudly against his hard abs.
       
      "Tell me," he growled. "Tell me what you want."
       
      "I want..." Jenn gasped. "I want you to fuck me. Please, fuck me."
       
      He pushed closer, holding his cock in one hand as he guided it toward her dripping pussy. In the other hand...
       
      "My phone?" Jenn giggled.
       
      "I want ol' Dan to see this," Tim said firmly. "I want your pervy guy to see the moment, the exact moment, my cock... a stranger's cock... enters his woman. I want the perv to have this to jerk to... his Jenn's beautiful pussy taking another man's.... cock!"
       
      Jenn moaned as his tip entered her, parting her lips and stretching her slowly open. She shivered at his words, and at the nasty, wicked feeling of his strange cock inside her. She was doing it, she realized. She was letting a strange man fuck her. Her whole body arched up to meet him as his long shaft slowly filled her.
       
      "Yeah," Tim groaned. "He's going to like seeing this."
       
      "Put the phone down," Jenn purred. "Put that fucking phone away and fuck me."
       
      "Is that what you want?" Tim smiled wickedly, lightly tossing Jenn's phone aside.
       
      "Yes." She looked at him, thrilling to the hungry look in his eyes. "Yes, I want you to fuck me."
       
      Tim slowly pulled his cock back, until only the tip rested just within her dripping pussy. "You want a guy you just met to fuck you. A stranger, to fill you up with his cock."
       
      "Yes." Jenn writhed under him. "Yes, fuck me now."
       
      She gasped as Tim grabbed her waist. Her eyes locked on his as her body arched toward him. With a grunt, he thrust into her, filling her up with one swift motion. Their hips rocked together, her wet folds opening to receive him deep inside her.
       
      Jenn's whole body tingled as he thrust into her again and again, deep, steady, powerful thrusts that filled her over and over. She reveled in the feeling and the unshakable thought of how wicked this was. Wild, carnal pleasure climbed through her, exploding as she came again.
       
      "Oh my god!" she cried out, shaking as her body convulsed around his thrusting member. "Are you... still going?"
       
      "I'm not finished," Tim grinned, continuing to slide slowly inside her. "Not by a long shot."
       
      "Oh... my... god..." Jenn moaned, wrapping her legs around his waist and pulling him deeper into her.
       
      She let herself go, moaning and crying out with wild, forbidden pleasure. Throughout, she kept her eyes on him, watching his unfamiliar body moving over hers, staring into his stranger's face has he grunted and thrust into her. Lust and pleasure climbed, peaked again with her desperate cries, and madly started to climb once more.
       
      Suddenly, Tim paused in his seemly tireless fucking. "What's that?"
       
      "What?" Jenn panted. It took a moment for her to realize that a new sound had been intruding on the moaning, grunting and slapping of flesh against flesh. A musical, birdlike chiming sound. It took another moment for Jenn to recognize the sound. "Oh, it's my phone."
       
      "Seriously?" Tim pushed himself slowly back inside her. "Someone's calling you now?"
       
      "Text alert," Jenn gasped. "Probably.... ooohhhh... Dan."
       
      "Dan? Ol' Dan!?" Tim laughed.
       
      Jenn groaned as Tim quickly pulled himself from her body. She felt shockingly empty, without him inside her. She was relieved to see that Tim staggered slightly as he stood. She watched, amused at the sight of his thick cock bobbing ahead of him as he fumbled around on the floor, grabbing her phone.
       
      "Hey, we missed a few," Tim grinned down at her phone. "Text from Dan: 'Hot pic."
      "Oh my god," Jenn buried her face in her hands, wondering which of the many naughty pics her guy was talking about.
       
      "'You naughty tease'," Tim read out.
       
      "Give it to me." Jenn reached out for the phone.
       
      "'Fell asleep. You have fun flashing the bar?'," Tim read. "Poor guy, he's missed all the fun. Should I send him some of our new pics?"
       
      "No!" Jenn gasped. "Give me my phone."
       
      "'You still up?'," Tim chuckled. "I certainly am," he added, flexing his raging hard cock.
       
      "Give it to me!" Jenn reached out for her phone.
       
      "Damn right I will," Tim grinned, leaping back onto the bed.
       
      Jenn squealed as he flipped her over onto her belly and dropped himself onto her back. She felt his slick, hard cock pressing between her thighs.
       
      "Not what I meant." Her gasp turned into a groan as he penetrated her again.
       
      "Here," Tim said into her ear. "You should really answer him." He started thrusting again, even harder and more passionate than before.
       
      The phone dropped in front of Jenn's face.
       
      "Go on, answer him." Tim grunted, pounding into her.
       
      Fumbling, Jenn grabbed her phone and tried to type out a reply.
       
      JENN: CEnt tAlk call pater
       
      Tim was driving fiercely into her now. Her whole body shook from the force of him in her. Tim was going wild, she realized, at the thought of her being on the phone with Dan while he fucked her. That idea, and his powerful thrusts, sent her own pleasure spiraling upward. She was dimly aware of the phone chiming again and again.
       
      DAN: U drunk lol?
       
      DAN: Jenn?
       
      DAN: U ok?
       
      DAN: JENN?!?
       
      She knew she had to respond with something. Desperately, she tried to cling to the phone long enough to type out a reply.
       
      JENN: C a 'll later
       
      JENN: nifht
       
      With that she pushed the phone away and thrust back to meet Tim's thrusting cock. Another orgasm crashed over her and Tim roared over her, driving his strange cock deep inside her.
       
      <<<>>>
       
      Jenn stared at the empty hotel bar.
       
      Other conference attendees moved through the lobby, heading for the morning seminars.
       
      She was sure that Tim was among them, but she didn't know where. He'd left during the night... after... One part of her mind shied away from the thought, but at the same she felt a tingle across her skin... her nipples... her pussy.
       
      She looked down at her phone. It felt hot in her hand. She hadn't dared to open the picture folder yet. She had to get it over with. She wondered if she would really dare to say anything when the time came. Her fingers shook as she pressed Dan's speed dial.
       
      "Hi, honey," Dan answered brightly.
    • By km34
      This post in another thread got me thinking... In my mind "friends first" swinging and poly are two completely different things, but other people apparently think of them as one and the same. What does everyone else think?
       
      To expand on my views (the rest of the post is purely my opinion ).. Everyone I have met who wants to be friends first is looking more for a sense of safety by knowing people a bit before having sex. Whether or not this is legit or not is another topic, but it's something that people believe. Also, friends first folks tend to want to be more open about swinging - having that couple or two or five that you swing with AND hang out with gives you the chance to talk about swinging, be yourselves, and generally not have to be in the closet about it. At least every once in a while. Having a friendship makes things a bit more comfortable for some.
       
      Polyamory, on the other hand, is actually looking for romantic love. I love my friends, but that doesn't mean I'm in a poly relationship with all of them. On SLS, I mention that we are looking for friends, but we do not consider anyone we meet on SLS (or other swinging sites) as people with whom we could potentially have a real, whole, romantic relationship.
       
      I guess my general question is - Is this a common thought in people's minds? When you see someone looking for "friends first" does your mind automatically go to poly/relationships/too invested?
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