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Hello everyone! Yesterday something really weird happened to me while i was reading this site. I love sex stories. And I was reading the interactive stories you have in here. The story was about a woman and her husband being in the hot tub with another couple. Fine. But suddenly the story gets to the point where the woman wanted the "other" man to do oral sex to her husband. And he did. I got so and so turned on that you know what I ended up doing :)

 

Afterwards, I was like: What the hell made me so turned on? This is so weird! I really was extremely turned on by imagining my spouse being orally stimulated my another men. Penetration wasn't on my mind at all, (that would be a turn OFF), just oral.

 

Is that normal for women to fantasize about that? :confused: :confused: :confused:

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I think if it turns him on, then I'm happy he's happy. And hey, why wouldn't it? Men love to watch women so why can't we watch them? I think it's a pretty hot idea too :claps:

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Well, it seems like the answer for my question is : It is not common to fantasize about that! From almost 200 people that have read the post only 1 answered. That answers my question. I'm a freak!!! LOL:8-0:: :8-0:: :8-0::

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Originally posted by coupleproyect

Well, it seems like the answer for my question is : It is not common to fantasize about that! From almost 200 people that have read the post only 1 answered. That answers my question. I'm a freak!!!LOL:8-0:: :8-0:: :8-0::

 

This is interesting. Ask almost any man out there and he would love to see two women having sex. I wonder why more women don't have the desire to see two men.

 

And have no worries coupleproyect, it's good to be a little freaky ;)

 

Rusty

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No such thing as a freak! Everyone has their own fantasies, and its pretty natural to have them about your partner....I know i certainly do. ;)

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Originally posted by coupleproyect

Well, it seems like the answer for my question is : It is not common to fantasize about that! From almost 200 people that have read the post only 1 answered. That answers my question. I'm a freak!!!LOL:8-0:: :8-0:: :8-0::

Well, I'm one of the 200, but I'm a guy, so I didn't feel qualified to answer the question :lol:

 

Anyway, I wouldn't be so sure.

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Geesh, I missed this thread! LOL

 

coupleproyect, I don't think you are abnormal at all. I know that I've certainly thought about it and it turns me on. :)

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I too, get really turned on by the thought of another man giving my husband a BJ and the thought of watching my husband give one.

 

That being said, sometimes it's better for it to remain a figment of your imagination. We haven't done it yet and I don't know if we ever will.

 

Although, I have a dildo that can be inserted both ways. He put the base deep inside me and performed an oral show on the end that looks more penis shaped. NOW THAT WAS HOT! I can't wait for him to do it again! Every stroke I felt deep inside, every movement. I HIGHLY recommend trying that one!

 

Good luck to you, you freak! :lol:

 

LC

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Whoa Cleo! Thank you so much for the great idea! We do have a two-sided dildo and he loves to use it on me. He can do that every time we make love, he doesn't get tired of it! Can recommend to me HOW to bring the idea of him doing oral to it, for our next time? When you and your husband did it, who came with the idea?

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Here's a question for you. When you were first talking about orally making love I was not sure if you meant just a BJ or the kissing, necking, full body lavishing being done by one male to another.

 

As a male, I can fantasize sucking a cock, but making out with a guy doesn't do a thing for me... in fact turns me off.

 

Yet, the woman to woman fantasy is not just oral sex. Part of the visual is to see the breasts pushed together and legs intertwined as the women rub each other's bodies with hands and are kissing passionately.

 

Guess its part of the thing that guys are more for the gusto than the buildup.

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Hi Everyone. We're new to the board, but VERY eager to add to this discussion thread :D

 

We have been involved in the swinging lifestyle for over a dozen years together... my hubby was involved in it for several years before we met. He never showed a desire to try bi, but, after I tried bi at his request, I said it would only be fair to see him do the same thing for me .

 

Well, as you can tell by our screen name, he did. And he liked it. He did oral sex and, when I saw it for the first time, I came just from watching it! This is a guy that, before this, although very gentle and caring, you would never think of as one to suck on another man's cock. But he did and he liked it, and that has added immeasurably to our pleasure sexually.

 

But there is a drawback - As others have noted in this thread, it does turn some people off. And we have lost some friends from the swing community as a result. But that just means, to us anyway, that they were not as open-minded as we thought they were. Sure there is a double standard. But we are seeing more & more males into oral sex with other men, so maybe the standard is changing somewhat. Also, we find that we are somewhat ostracized by not only purely hetero couples, but by gays as well... they tend to think that, if you can suck a cock, you must be gay. We don't think that's so. My hubby would not kiss a man... would not hold hands or say "I love you"... but he would suck cock. Maybe that's odd to some, but it works for us.

 

For us, bi sex is acceptable for us both. And it's not kinky anymore... it's become normal to us. If more guys would try it, they would, like my husband has, realize that it has nothing to do with masculinity. In fact, as he says, it takes a man MORE sure of his masculinity to suck a cock than one to just call it 'gay'.

 

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I'm 99% str8 but I've always wondered what it would be like to go down on another man, especially in front of his wife. I have never been interested in kissing or any other sexual thing with another guy, however.

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Hello, Yes it is completely normal! I think anyway. My husband once received and gave oral to and from his best friend. I was so turned on when I heard about it. They did it when I was in another room UNFORTUNATELY!! i would love to see it occur again and have talked to several other women who feel the same way about this. However men seem to get totally freaked out by the whole idea. Which I find rather funny because when you talk about women being together the men are all for it and most are completely turned on lol!

 

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angihay,

 

You are so very correct... as mentioned previously in this thread, there is no doubt that there is a double standard when it comes to bisexual tendencies. Men do feel, for whatever reason, that it is expected of their wives to be bisexual, but not of themselves. And if a woman was to approach and ask a man about bi sex, they would, as you mention, freak out. Usually, that is :)

 

Oh... by the way... this is the hubby posting this time around... and I must admit that, although bi was a bit of a curious turn-on for me before actually trying it, I was also awfully hesitant to try it. It wasn't until the wife suggested it that I truly gave it any consideration.

 

And, for those of you that are considering male bi... try it. You really cannot knock it until you try it. And it really is NOT emasculating or feminizing. It honestly does make you look much more of a man in front of your wife or partner. Just think of how much courage it takes for a man, taught from the crib that crying and being a sissy is for girls... that playing with dolls and all things of that nature is for girls and pansies. It's been drilled into our minds that even looking at another man's 'penis' (remember your dad saying that word? remember how embarrassed YOU were when you heard him say it?!?!?!) is a girly thing. On the opposite side of the coin, girls are expected to be friendly with their girlfriends. And kissing or holding hands or hugging... that's all very much accepted in society. So it is no surprise that men tend to feel awkward trying bi sex.

 

Well, at my wife's suggestion, I tried bi. And do you know what the first thought that came out of my mind after hesitantly sliding his cock into my mouth happened to be? Why the heck did I wait so long to try this?!?!?! It felt good. It felt right. It felt like I should have done this many years ago. For those of you now saying below your breath 'fag', 'gay', etc.... uh... no. I have done oral bi several times... maybe a total of 9-10 times over the course of about 10 years. No, I don't hug a guy. No, I don't kiss a guy. No, I would not 'make out' with a guy. And, yes, I know it sounds odd that I would suck his cock and let him suck mine... I would potentially do anal with men... but I would not kiss or show other forms of passion towards him. Color me weird, if that's what you think :D

 

gsu22... a point to your comment that you are '99% str8'... I don't think that any one person in this world is truly straight. I think that we are ALL... every single human being... capable of being bisexual. It is the religious morals and conservative groups of this world that have taught us all that same gender sex is not acceptable. And I would add one more observation - those people that argue the loudest about bi or gay sex? They are only doing so to prove to themselves that they are not curious or turned on by it. Honestly... think about it... who really cares what your opinion is on bi people? No one. Except yourself. That's why they argue so loudly... so they can hear themselves saying that they are not turned on by same gender sex... as if to say, 'If I hear myself arguing that bi sex is bad, then I must not really like it after all!!!'. Uh huh! :)

 

Bi for now...

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Your first time sounded really hot! I can imagine the thoughts that were racing through your head when you finally started sucking him.

 

Regarding my comment about being 99% str8...I really feel that I am almost completely str8 but in the future, I think that every once in a while I would like to try a little bi action while a lady watched and shared with me. Much like you...no kissing or hugging of any kind.

 

I'm sure that there are other guys who have thought about it but do say "fag" or "gay" under their breath. I agree 100%...major double standard.

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Whoa! I'm so impressed with all your comments. Thank you for your opinions. Especially the women that have been in this situation before, so now I don't feel like I'm the only one! A huge thank you for the men that gave their opinion too.

 

Well, the other day I took a big breath and dared to talk to my hubby. I was online reading this website, and he was near me watching tv. So suddenly I went to him with a sexy smile and he said "what's up with that smile?" I told him that I just read the story of a guy that while swinging he suddenly started doing oral to the other guy and that the wives were very turned on. I told him that while reading that I was turned on too. I asked him, "baby, I would love to see you sucking a cock, would you dare to do that ? Just for me!!!??? And to my surprise he smiled and said yeah...I would let him suck mine better!! And I was soooo relieved!

 

I wanted to ask that question for so long and didn't dare! I didn't want to offend him or something. BUT!!! I'm the happiest woman, he said he would do it. I can't wait to watch that. I think I would come just watching it!!

 

Thank you guys for your replies, I would show him this thread so he can feel at peace about it!!! I want him to know its ok and that he's not the only man that would want to suck a cock, even when he's not interested in hugging or kissing.

 

Thank you, I love this board!!! :claps: :claps: :claps: :claps:

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Welcome to coupleproyect and to BiCoupleNJ. As a bisexual man married to a "mostly straight" woman, I too feel like a black sheep in the swinging world. I know that my bisexuality (or curiosity — I'm not experienced) is probably one of the biggest reasons why we haven't had a meeting with another couple yet. Despite the fact that I make it very clear that bisexual contact is merely an option, some guys (and women) are turned off by the idea that I may even think bisexual thoughts. If these people only knew how many of the guys they'd already swung with were closeted bisexuals, they'd really freak. :) They'd spend the remainder of their swinging years thinking, "is he looking at me in a bisexual way?" In fact, they may think that after reading this post. If so, then my job here is done. ;)

 

Be honest to others and yourself and you'll meet the kind of people you need to swing with. If you don't get any takers, then at least you haven't settled.

 

At least that's the way I feel.

 

Good luck and if you ever want to discuss anything, catch me on AIM or email me at the address below.

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ionsawmill...

 

You bring up a very important and, until your post, issue that tends to fall through the cracks when it comes to most swingers. That is, being open about yourself being bisexual. It is our point of view, with many years experience in the lifestyle, that a couple with a male that is openly bi will simply end up going home alone 99 out of 100 nights.

 

For those of you that want to smack me now for my numbers, go ahead... I am generalizing based on my vast experience in the lifestyle - I ran a 3000 member on-premise swing club in Hawaii for 2 years and ran a 500-1000 member newsletter for several years when I returned to NJ.

 

Anyhow, you don't tend to hear about any male being bisexual when you attend swing clubs or parties. Why? Because the swing community as a whole frowns upon male bisexuality. Again, this IS a generalization, but a valid one! When I ran my club, I made it a point to not judge anyone. At the time, I didn't even have an inkling that I might ever attempt bi sex. In fact, while on a sailing club trip, a guy reached for my cock and, not having any desire to try anything like that at all, I nearly tossed him off the boat for invading what I considered 'female only' space. Ah... what a difference some years make :)

 

You are very correct in your comment that many people in the club and party scene these days have probably had sex with a bisexual male, although it was not revealed to them at the time. This brings up a very valid question - Is it morally correct to hide the fact that you are bisexual from a straight male? I don't have an answer to that question myself. But I can tell you that we have had only 1 couple we partied with since I did go bi where the male was not bi... and I did not tell them I was bi. The reasoning behind my action (or inaction) was that we were long-time friends and, knowing we were clean and free of any STD's, we felt it more prudent to not reveal the bisexuality at the time.

 

Since then, we have discussed meeting with other couples where the male is str8, but we now make it a point of commenting that we are both bi. If that does not bother then, then we move forward in the discussions regarding a meeting.

 

All that being said... how about the rest of you? Those of you where the male has actually experienced bi sex, what is your take on that question? Do you hide the fact that he is bi when talking with a str8 male couple? Do you openly express that he is bi when in a club or party atmosphere? Do you reveal that he is bi when you are in the starting stages of intimacy with a couple where the male is str8? All very important questions in this day and age... yet questions I believe most don't consider.

 

Jerry & Liz

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I just have to add my 2 cents worth here...

 

My partner and I have recently started playing with a little role reversal with a strap-on ... I wanted to know how it felt to be on the receiving end of the equation, and she (being very bi) has quite a bit of experience with one on other girls ... so we tried it, and I was blown away by the experience ... in fact so much so that it has become a regular part of our play sessions.

 

This last weekend, we went away to some swinger friends of ours, and after the main play session had finished off, and we were back in our room alone, we decided to play with the strap-on again. I was all for it ... and then she laid the surprise request on me that she would love to see me suck her 'cock' ...

 

Well, waddaya know - I loved it. It really was quite an experience. We have another couple that we are planning to get together with, where the husband is bi, and I for one can't wait to do it for real with him. My partner was even speaking to me about this while I was performing on her 'cock' - telling me what a turn-on it would be for her and I to give this guy a double BJ together ... the only thing she was disappointed with was the fact that I could give better deep throat than she could :)

 

I agree that men in general are conditioned to go against this kind of behaviour, but I say to them - just try it once guys ... you will be amazed at the experience!!

 

Oh yeah, and the strap-on thing .... it really rocks !!! My girlfriend has made me come before with no stimulation of my cock, just really giving me a good hard fucking with her strap-on - and that really blew my mind !!!

 

Life is too short - experience it to the fullest!

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Welcome Coupleproyect and no, you're no more weird than we are! Hmmmm? :confused::rofl: We have always been able to talk to each other about our fantasies and sexual desires so it was no shock to hear that she got turned on watching two guys have sex. And of course, who doesn't like to watch two gals together?

 

Both of us had bi sexual experiences in the past to share with one another and we also both wanted to experience the swing lifestyle. That was almost 6 years ago and since then (we have met about 10 couples and a few single females) we can't believe the amount of females that enjoy watching their man go down on another guy. Or at least fantasize about it. And yes, we used a double dildo 5 years ago (still do, hehe) and seeing how she reacted to my sucking on it while using the other end on her was a great 'ice breaker' that further enticed our 'bi sexual' desires and the need to explore more. If more men would drop the 'homophobic' cultural upbringing and admit to their own fantasies, as most of 'them' wish their women would, well,maybe a 'search' for other bi couples in our area would turn up more than one or two profiles. :rofl:

 

Enjoy your new found fantasies and hope all turns out well for everyone. :bj:

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This thread is very interesting.

 

Others have commented that male/male sex is on the continuum of sexuality that is in all of us. From the one extreme that is solely involved with women (or should the extreme be only involved with himself) to the extreme of only involved with men (or himself) (see how it goes full circle?).

 

The AIDS question has helped to place male bi-sexuality in a bad light. AIDS has affected the gay community and those men who have used the gay community for their bi-sexual activities.

 

Thus, for us, reading a male is an admitted bi male indicates that he may have strayed into risky behavior and is therefore someone we do not want to associate with for health reasons.

 

But my problem with oral bi-ness within a couple swing setting is that the wife/female half will probably suck on the guys cock. What makes the guy sucking on the cock any riskier? I do not understand.

 

And, the same argument could hold true for anal intercourse.

 

How can a man who has only been orally bi be truthful yet not raise concern to potential couples?

 

Bi covers such a large area on the continuum.

 

Seems that this bi-ness question is not as problematic for women.

 

Bill

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I have to throw in my 2 cents here too.

 

THe second time I had sex with my wife we did it with my then roommate. She loved to watch he and I suck on each other and she got extremely turned as we lined up doggy style and put him in the middle as the "rocking chair". He said that he came harder in her then he had in years and she passed out after her climax.

 

Since then we have only had a couple of bi experiences. We have found out that if you even say that you are bi around other swingers they will run away. I have found more openly bi males in the BDSM community then the swingers community.

 

That doesn't mean that there isn't a little fooling around going on at the on premise clubs that we have been to. I have seen a number of men that have felt the need to "reach out and touch someone", even if that person isn't receptive to the idea. That person sometimes becomes an outcast right away.

 

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Originally posted by velbuzz

This thread is very interesting.

 

Thus, for us, reading a male is an admitted bi male indicates that he may have strayed into risky behavior and is therefore someone we do not want to associate with for health reasons.

 

... [text removed for brevity]

 

Bi covers such a large area on the continuum.

 

Bill

 

Velbuzz,

 

We do not agree with your comment regarding the sexual continuum. Just because an individual admits to his bi tendencies, it does not mean that he has engaged in intimate encounters solely with men in the past. That is, that he has never been intimate solely with another male, with no female involved in the act. Whereas many women MAY have experienced bi only with another woman for the first time, it is often only because bi females are so much more accepted by the general public. Most men tend to try bi sex due to a partner's desire to see them do so, and do so in the company of said partner.

 

Although you may very well be correct with some individuals, we find that 99% or so of those males that are bisexual have never had a male on male experience in an exclusive sense. All male on male sex had occurred with at least one other female in attendance in either a threesome or larger grouping, always with a couple involved. This minimizes greatly the potential exposure to AIDS and other STDs due to the much lower incidence of STD's in couples in the swinging community as compared to the general public (as per a number of surveys as reported on NASCA's website). Obviously there are always exceptions to the rule. That is the case in every situation.

 

The much more important issue that one must deal with regarding single bi males is their honesty. Or their lack thereof. If they have, in fact, had intimate relations with another single male, whether bi or gay, that tosses up a red flag with us and we do not proceed with them. Single males must be honest and forthright in their answers for you to trust them implicitly. When in conversations with single bi males online, we have often been accused of conducting an interview with many questions. Honestly, that IS what we are doing - we will not enter into a relationship with anyone, male, female or couple, if they do not fit our limitations regarding previous sexual activity. So we DO conduct an 'interview' as we go along, not only to get to know more about them, but also in an attempt to weed out those we feel are too deeply involved in sexual encounters for our liking. This, too, limits our exposure to any STD's. We are casual swingers, playing a few times a year. Those that meet and play on a weekly basis with numerous partners are not what we seek.

 

Although it may be safer to generalize as you have in your post, we feel that, after nearly 20 years in alt lifestyles, that generalization is not very accurate. That's not to say that generalizing is a bad thing - we do it as well. But we go further and lay that blanket across everyone... male, female and couple. While variety may be the spice of life... and the general desire in swinging, promiscuity is not the same as variety. And we frown upon promiscuity. Our motto has always been, Friends Before Lovers. :D

 

Jerry

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Originally posted by velbuzz

Thus, for us, reading a male is an admitted bi male indicates that he may have strayed into risky behavior and is therefore someone we do not want to associate with for health reasons.

 

Bi covers such a large area on the continuum.

 

Bill

 

Bill, some good points, but a thought occurred to me.

 

Assuming a man openly admits he is bi, wouldn't it be easier to ask him the extent of his bi-ness...are you bi to the extent that you give/receive oral only? Are you bi to the extent that you participate in anal?...rather than assuming he is straight because other swingers would run from him if he admitted his bi-ness.

 

I guess what I'm wondering is this. It seems most swingers are opposed to men that admit they are bi; thus, they list themselves as being straight. For those that are honest enough to admit they are bi, it gives you the opportunity and freedom to question their activities. Make sense? I'm having a hard time wording this question. - EBF :)

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The part about bi males and STD's... I have to say that the few times that I have been with another male, whether with or without my partner, I and the other male have always used condoms. For the real bi males in the lifestyles this is a must. No protection...no play.

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I did not expect to have to defend this point, so maybe I need to make myself clearer.

 

Being on the continuum of sexuality is a graphic display of sexual behavior/inclination. One has extremes where one is 100% hetero and the other extreme is 100% homo. My point is that most people are somewhere in between.

 

And behavior does not have to match inclination. For instance, a homosexual person in our society can succumb to the pressures of conformity and live a hetero (although unhappy) life.

 

Thus, a person is on the continuum participating in same sex with or without his spouse.

 

The discussions about honesty are valid. And that is my point to an extent. Oral bi-ness in my mind is no more risky than male into female oral sex. Yet, declaring oneself bi puts one into the same class as a man who has received a cock up his ass. For those of us that look at the bi label as being all inclusive the male participating solely in bi oral sex is (pun intended) screwed.

 

Yes, labeling oneself as bi does allow for one to be honest about his bi activities. But sometimes one would not be able to explain because he has been labeled "unclean" by the literature.

 

Thanks for your comments all. This is interesting.

 

Bill

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Originally posted by velbuzz

I did not expect to have to defend this point, so maybe I need to make myself clearer.

 

Yet, declaring oneself bi puts one into the same class as a man who has received a cock up his ass. For those of us that look at the bi label as being all inclusive the male participating solely in bi oral sex is (pun intended) screwed.

 

Bill

 

Bill,

 

There is no need to defend your point. I was simply adding to that point, but clarifying our position on it.

 

I suppose that the best way to clarify further is this - we - swingers, as a community, should stop labeling people in the first place. We are all sexually charged beings that accept more ancient ways of humankind, that being sharing ones partner with others. Our sexual preference is just that, a preference. One who is open to same gender sex is labelled either gay or bi, depending on the degree to which they accept that same gender sex. In the end, it is all a preference. We are all humans, but we tend to have differing preferences from others.

 

So, heretowith, Liz and I are NOT bisexual! We are both humans that have a preference that opens our sexual activity to both genders and all races!!! :D

 

Jerry

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Jerry

 

Thanks for your post.

 

Now if we can get the rest of the world to throw away labels......

 

 

 

Enjoy

 

Bill

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Originally posted by coupleproyect

Is that normal for women, to fantasize about that? :confused: :confused: :confused:

 

Actually, seeing two men having anal sex is more of a turn-on to me. I've fantasized about my guy fucking another man, and him being fucked by a guy, but that will never happen. He is SO hetero! :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Lorrie

.... but that will never happen. He is SO hetero! :rolleyes:

 

Lorrie,

Don't be so sure about that. I am sure that you know that more odd things have happened in life. :)

 

I have not taken the route of actually trying anal sex with another man. Yet. I have had a woman with a strap-on do me while Liz watched... and became incredibly turned on :D

 

She told us afterward that she actually came a couple times just watching our friend do me with the strap-on. Although I admit it felt a bit uncomfortable, it also felt rather interesting and erotic at the same time. I am about as hetero as they come, but I do harbor a thought deep in my mind that, one day, I MUST try anal with the real thing... no dildo... no strap-on... with a real, live, pulsating, hardening cock. :D

 

Keep your hopes up... maybe his mind, like mine, will one day change and you'll get that which you are fantasizing about!

 

Jerry

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He does like having fingers, and I think a dildo up his ass. So that's a start! :D

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There you go... that's definitely a good start. Now all you have to do is talk to him in a very sensual way while you are in the heat of passion... suggesting that you think it would be so hot to see another man doing that to him... or when you are sucking on him, say that you'd love to share it with another man... his reaction may surprise you... and if it does and you respond like we think you will, he is certain to pick up on how hot you think the idea is and, well, maybe he'll do it just for you :)

 

Consider this... I had never considered bi sex unless I was way too drunk to realize the ramifications at the time. Thank goodness it never came to be while I was in that state! But, one night, while doing Liz doggy style, she said she would love to see me sucking on a cock and see one in my ass. I pumped harder & harder each time she made a comment to that effect until an explosive orgasm for both of us! Her words to me after? "It would only be fair for you to try bi since I tried bi for you". I've never looked back :D

 

Give it a go... let us all know how it turns out! :)

 

Jerry & Liz

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That must have been a really hot night alright!...

 

I will let you know if it happens! :D

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I would love to see my Kermit go down on a man!

I have mentioned this and he isn't opposed to the idea.... so.... we'll see. :bj:

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One time while in a threesome with a buddy and his wife, I licked her pussy while she was riding his cock. She was facing his feet on top, and I was licking and sucking her clit. It made her cum very hard! She told me to suck his balls and that was different but a very nice feeling! He then pulled out and she and I both sucked him until he shot his cum on both our faces. She licked it off me, then they both sucked me until I came on them. It was the first bi experience for me, and we all enjoyed it! ;)

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There is little doubt in our minds that, if every man tried bi, they would realize it isn't as big an issue as they make it out to be. And, as a by-product of that action & realization, perhaps the gay & lesbian community would become more accepted.

 

Of course, that realization could snowball and we could find religions accepting each other, cultures realizing there is little difference between us all when we're stripped down to only being human and, ultimately, the Palestinians and Jews would get along like brothers & sisters.

 

But, back to reality, um... uh uh... it ain't gonna happen - lots of guys will still think that any man that has any inkling towards bi sex is a freak while any woman that has a desire to express her bi tendencies is a goddess. LOL!

 

Glad to hear that you were open enough to act upon the woman's desire to see you do bi and liked what you tried :)

 

Jerry & Liz

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Originally posted by BiCoupleNJ

But, back to reality, um... uh uh... it ain't gonna happen - lots of guys will still think that any man that has any inkling towards bi sex is a freak while any woman that has a desire to express her bi tendencies is a goddess. LOL!

Your argument suggests that there are only two polarized viewpoints available here. Either a man is someone who is sufficiently opened-minded to explore male-male sex, or he is someone who finds the concept abhorrent, and is therefore both insular and ignorant. I'd suggest there is a third standpoint. I don't view bi-male sex any differently than I do male homosexual sex: they are both valid lifestyle choices, but ones that I have no interest in participating in. And I reject out of hand the notion that sucking another man’s cock, or being sucked by another man, will somehow make me a more tolerant human being.

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I got into swinging specifically to be with couples in threesomes. I didn't know about all the categories and distinctions. I only knew that among the sexiest sights in the world was a woman's spread legs and a hard cock just gaining penetration. Getting my mouth on such a junction seemed like the best thing I could do.

 

I have found that the woman is greatly turned on by my performance and she usually joins me. In addition, several men have taken the opportunity to try it themselves.

 

Although I prefer sex when both genders are present, I have never had the desire to engage another man in sex. Should he bring along his wife or girlfriend (or both), I become very happy indeed.

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Originally posted by biguy

I have found that the woman is greatly turned on by my performance and she usually joins me. In addition, several men have taken the opportunity to try it themselves.

 

Time for me (Liz) to finally get in on the conversation. You can NOT have put it better :D The whole reason that Jerry got into bi was because I said it was only fair that he try it for me because I tried bi for him. We both like it enough to consider ourselves open to bi sex, although we don't necessarily go out looking for that in particular... if it happens, great! If not, that's OK, too!

 

But one thing that has made me wetter than anything else is actually seeing a cock disappear down Jerry's throat! I get so turned on that pretty much anything goes as a result of seeing him doing oral! I have to admit that he is better at it than I am, but that's life. At least I get to be turned on by seeing him do it in the first place :D

 

Hopefully more people will realize how fun it is and how much of a turn on many women consider it to be... I know that I would love to see a group of guys doing oral on each other... and maybe anal, too :D

 

Liz

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Originally posted by LadyCleo

Although, I have a dildo that can be inserted both ways. He put the base deep inside me and performed an oral show on the end that looks more penis shaped. NOW THAT WAS HOT! I can't wait for him to do it again! Every stroke I felt deep inside, every movement. I HIGHLY recommend trying that one!LC

 

I have a strap-on that has a vaginal plug. It's a total turn-on to put this on/in and watch my husband deep throat the huge lifelike dildo. With this I get vaginal and clit stimulation with every stroke, and he makes with the added visual excitement. I'm getting hot just thinking about it.

 

May have to go put the strap-on on now and surprise him when he gets home...

:D

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I've wanted to see two guys together as well. But alas, the love of my life is completely not bisexual, will barely even discuss it (and won't let me get near his ass with my fingers even, though he's had someone do it once before and he got off... and hard). It has just always been an interest of mine. So sad, I know I'll never see a guy suck him off... (for some reason, I'd want to see someone giving oral to him, but not him giving to another guy... odd, I think).

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Originally posted by Houmacpl

So sad I know I'll never see a guy suck him off... (for some reason, I'd want to see someone giving oral to him, but not him giving to another guy... odd, I think.)

 

Chloe,

 

Nah, I don't think that it is odd to think about seeing your man get oral and not give it... to me, that just means that you still harbor concerns about bi male sex yourself... perhaps it is because you feel he is a superior lover and makes you feel so good that your subconscious can't really fathom him having any desire to be bisexual.

 

And don't think that it will never happen... it might not, but don't put it completely out of your head... stranger things have happened in life... hell... Elton John & Eminem in a duo??? LOL :)

 

Just don't pester him about it... but drop those subtle little hints from time to time... and keep sneaking a finger closer to his butt when you're giving him head... or even ask a girl you two are with to do that... you'll never know when he'll finally say that it is a turn-on to him and wants to keep going down that path! :D

 

Take care...

Jerry

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I actually think part of the reason I don't want to see him going down on another guy has some relation to our D/s tenancies... He is dominant (though doesn't identify himself as such, he just is by nature) and I can't see him in a submissive position, which that would be. He thinks my fantasy about it is funny, not irritating. I really don't bring it up that often... maybe some day :P (he has been known to be adventurous, I just seriously doubt he'd be *that* adventurous :P).

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Hello again. I notice, in this discussion, a distinction between oral and anal sex when discussing male bisexual activities.

 

Apart from an occasional fantasy, I have never engaged in anal sex. When I am with a couple, it is always oral sex that we guys do, even if our activities include anal intercourse with the woman. I haven't thought of it as odd before but I guess it is.

 

Especially since I enjoy having my ass played with. During threesomes, the lady has put fingers and toys inside me to my great pleasure but the idea of the man putting his cock in me has not come up. Perhaps people have thought about it but the subject did not arise so that I had to make a decision.

 

In my experience, it has been the woman who initiated the stimulation of my anus. I cannot imagine caring if it were him or her doing the licking, or if it were his or fingers doing the probing. However, the idea of being penetrated by his cock does seem to matter.

 

I think I'd probably do anal in the right situation. That means, for me anyway, everybody comfortable with everybody else and a high desire to participate and please.

 

I know that my sucking husbands gets wives very hot. From the comments on this subject, I can only imagine what sort of sexual rewards I would gain from them should participate in anal intercourse.

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My take on why anal between men hasn't come up so far is because this thread originated solely on oral sex. I would bet a number of bi males would at the very least enjoy anal attention, whether it be tongues, fingers or toys, but I would also bet that many orally bi men either do not wish to engage in anal sex or flat out don't think of it at all for two primary reasons:

 

1) It is the second of three steps to preforming full blown gay sex (oral is 1st, anal is 2nd, kissing/emotions is 3rd & final step)

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2) It takes a person very, very stable with their own sexuality to cross that line and perform anal.

 

Of course, there is a third reason as well, and it is probably the most likely reason of all - HIV/AIDS. Despite the realities of HIV transmission (check out http://www.nasca.com for more detailed info), many people feel that man-man anal sex is THE primary agent for HIV transmission. In reality, sharing needles is the most prevalent reason people get HIV, but the way the media and people in general pushes the information, it probably puts many people off the idea of man-man anal sex.

 

Frankly, I would not be against it myself. I have been entered with a strap on and with a dildo in the past. And I do have a thought in my mind that, at least once, I want to experience anal sex. And Liz is hellbent on seeing it happen... that's her most flagrant fantasy!!! Plus, it would allow me the opportunity to see why women either enjoy it or hate it... there is no in between when it comes to anal!

 

Jerry

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I have no philosophical, moral or emotional reasons for not engaging in anal sex. I just don't get any enjoyment out of it. If a guy wanted me to have anal sex with him, I could do it; but I just can't take it. My wife says it's great once you get past the pain. I just can't get past the pain. I've tried plugs, dildos, vibes; nothing seems comfortable enough for me to really enjoy it.

 

Oral is another story. No discomfort involved. I can go down on a guy or have him go down on me. It's all good. Of course, my trigger-fast gag reflex could be a problem. I can't even get my teeth cleaned without gagging.

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You are absolutely right that a good amount of bi men won't try anal because of the pain. It took me a very long time to get over the discomfort of something larger than the size of a hot dog in my nether regions. Even now, since it has been quite some time since I've done any anal play, it would take a good amount of effort to get back to a point where I could handle the pain. I tend to put up with the discomfort once in a while when I have to!

 

But I would say that you just slightly missed my point. That is, you admit that you do think about anal sex and you would take part in it if you didn't have to deal with the pain. The point I was making was that plenty of orally bi guys wouldn't even talk about it, let alone do it. So, although you don't partake in anal sex, you at least do talk about it.

 

Also, your trouble with pain when you have tried anal tends to fit into the last comment that I made - when it comes to anal, you either love it or you hate it... there is no in between at all with anal sex. I am sure that you would agree on that point :)

 

BTW... have you thought about trying one of those bulb-headed plugs? They are pretty thin and have a 'balloon' in the top that is either pumped up or filled with water to expand & fill you. We haven't tried that, but it is something that might help you stretch the muscles at least a little more so that it's not nearly as uncomfortable to play anally. I have to say that one of the most uncomfortable things that I have experienced is sharp edged toys that tend to dig in to you in the most inappropriate places! A nasty pinch or, pardon the pun, prick in the wrong place can certainly bring a pleasant evening crashing down swiftly! LOL.

 

Hope that you are able to keep at trying anal... maybe some day you'll be able to not only accept it, but accept it willingly and with plenty of pleasure as well! :D

 

Jerry & Liz

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I totally agree. We haven't tried the inflatable plugs, but that's always an option.

 

In the meantime, I'll be happy to be orally Bi. I have my "bi-ness" plastered all over this website, my website and a couple of other personals sites. The odd thing is how many guys who call themselves straight keep emailing us with offers to get together. My questions have always been: Do they not read the whole profile? Do they read the profile and don't care that I'm Bi? Do they know that I'm Bi, but aren't willing to make it clear that they too would like to explore some same-sex arrangement?

 

The irony in our situation is that we are the opposite of most couples in the swing lifestyle. My wife is straight or, at most, slightly curious. She's definitely not as openly bisexual as I am.

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The odd thing is how many guys who call themselves straight keep emailing us with offers to get together...

Do they not read the whole profile? Do they read the profile and don't care that I'm Bi? Do they know that I'm Bi, but aren't willing to make it clear that they too would like to explore some same-sex arrangement?

 

We know the feeling. We often have the same questions when we are approached by what appears to be a straight male. Having had only one experience with a single male and then writing them off as ineffective for us because he turned out to not be bi and because we derived no pleasure from it, we seldom even chat with single males unless they blatantly advertise their bisexuality.

 

The one we continue to ask is this: Is a male that suggests he is bisexual actually bi if he will ACCEPT oral sex... and, perhaps GIVE anal... but refuses to give oral or accept anal? That is not quite what we would consider a bisexual male. Yet they persist in arguing that they are bi. Go figure!

 

Jerry & Liz

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