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A cuckold, a top, a bottom - complicated, but intriguing

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Hi all,

 

I am partially writing this to make sense of the situation in my head, and partially to see if anyone else has done something similar. But let's start with the dynamics at play first.

 

In our relationship, sexually my wife is the top and I am bottom. We have friends whom we've played with who are cuckold, they are both submissive, but He is obviously the bottom. My wife and the other husband have a strange relationship, though we have all played together before the two of them have a dom/sub texting relationship where my wife is learning to Dominate him... she may be my top in the bedroom, but she has never before been a Domme before. I have been sent to fuck the other wife alone before (once alone) and I am her top. Despite this, the other wife and I don't really have much of a relationship, though we seem to enjoy each others company.

 

The convo's between my wife and her friend have begun to get more, well, involved, and he is basically looking to be ordered around by my wife while I'm sent out to be the Bull for his. We've discussed it with each other, and my wife is fine with me going out with this woman a couple times a month, but I think we'd both like it if there was 4-way interaction on a semi-regular basis.

 

He wants me to be their regular bull (I'm assuming it's a trust/comfort thing using a happily married friend) and to emasculate him. He also says that I am her favorite Bull, which I kind of have to take his word for as we never really talk afterwards (as in post meet texting or anything). He has us refer to his wife as a Slut in convo's with him, and he seems to desperately want to be degraded by my wife and I.

 

The only side of the story we're getting is from him. We know for a fact that his wife is into being a hotwife as they're not new to this, and that is how our more recent encounters with them have played out, but she isn't putting in any feedback. He tells us she isn't interested in talk, just getting fucked, so I guess the only place to go from here is to test the waters.

 

But just to sum up:

My wife tops me, I top his wife, she tops her own husband, and he's at the bottom of the shit pile.

 

Has anyone had anything like this before?

 

J (&M)

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Hi, Newtoswinging225. We haven't been in that situation but it sounds like you two are concerned about the other wife's consent in the situation. Listen to your inner voice and do your best to attain that consent from the other wife before doing any other activities. Make sure it's clear to them that you want everyone to be one the same page about the topping/bottoming/bull/Domme/sub situation.

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Complicated indeed! I don't have much advice to offer, but what an interesting situation. Perhaps it's time to get the foursome together for a real life discussion of the goals of this relationship. I hear you say the other wife doesn't really want to talk about it, but believe it's necessary for the success of the dynamic.

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I don't think discussion is on the table as it seems to be a turn-off for the other wife. The sexual dynamic is there, I think we need to play the fantasy through to really see how this plays out - play at the slowest person's pace and see how we all feel after a night, a week, a month and so on. I'm actually most concerned about our friend the cuck, as he falls further into this rabbit hole. Don't forget, essentially we're all playing out His fantasy.

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If there is concern for either the other wife or the other husband, you don't have to continue playing the game...you can always walk away--not only for yourselves but for their well-being. Remember, not all fantasies should become reality.

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I don't think it's so much 'concern' as much as that we are new to the idea, our friends have been cuckold as long as we've known them. He seems to be becoming more submissive than ever. My wife wants to explore the dynamic, he is enthusiastic, which probably means they will go through with it anyways, regardless of who's involved. There's no indication that anything is wrong, we just haven't done this before. We are excited to explore, just wondering if anyone has had experience with a cuck and a hotwife before.

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Well, from what I've heard from other couples, whether couples are engaging in D/s or hotwife or cuckolding, there is still communication between all parties. Rules and boundaries are discussed. If it is a situation where they are only implied it is not a safe situation. It's always better to be safe than sorry but it is your choice to continue on this same path with a non-communicative play partner or not.

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. . . Perhaps it's time to get the foursome together for a real life discussion of the goals of this relationship. . .
With this I agree.

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