Wife with our son's best friend

[Psyrex 56]

I posted this to the stories section with pics if you'd like to check it out. Pending publication, of course.

 

Last August, my wife fucked our son's best friend. I was out of town and he was texting her, making her horny. She is 41 and he is 21. She loves the idea of a young cock to play with and he was more than happy to give it to her. I don't regret it happening but I do regret not being there though I will be the next time next month. Tim has always had a crush on my wife so I can imagine how he felt when she told him he could come over. Our oldest son was at work and our second oldest was awake and what turned me on was knowing my wife, their loving mother, had to keep him distracted so Tim could sneak in to fuck her like a slut. Our kids have no idea what their mom does behind closed doors.

 

As I said, we are getting together with him next month and she wants to make a home movie with him. She wants to do more with him like try different positions and even letting him come in her mouth. She sucked him for a bit but he was too excited and just rushed in. He made her cum twice but she wanted to suck him longer and wanted more action. He is young and a little inexperienced. He never went down on her and that is something she also would have liked. He barely even played with her tits.

 

Anyways, I'll be there to guide him next time. I'm trying to convince my wife to invite at least one more of his friends next time but she doesn't want our son to find out. She doesn't think any more would be able to keep it secret. Oh well. I love this new side of my wife. It's very hot and our sex life has never been better. We are looking for an older man or another couple to play with but that's another thread.

 

Look for more pics and possibly a video soon.

[enhancer 1,586]

It is great that you two enjoyed this so much! I do have to say though I would be a little worried about this getting out and your sons finding out. I don't know to many 21 year old guys that would not tell someone about it. All it takes is one wrong person to hear about it for it to get around. Don't even want to imagine the impact it would have on your kids if they heard mom was having sex with their friends.

[Psyrex 56]

Tim promised he would keep it secret and so far, to our knowledge, he has. Next time, we're getting a hotel so she can play freely and so she can really get nasty, slutty and fucked by him. Besides, this will be the last time he gets her. She just wants to fuck him one more time so she can let loose. She wants to have a better experience and a better memory of it. I suggested he could be her fuck buddy. She is open to the idea but that's where the risk becomes greater so she will get this one last fuck and move on.

[enhancer 1,586]

Problem is that some people will say whatever they need to say to get layed! It is your guys risk to take. Good luck and I hope it doesn't come back to haunt you.

[SA_NewtoLS 163]

If I was a 21 year old whose friends hot mom wanted to fuck me, yeah, I'd tell her I'd keep it a secret. Would I? Well, I'd likely intend to, but all it would take would be one night out drinking with my friends and there's a pretty good chance it would come out.

 

I really hope this does not happen to you and all goes well, but I would start preparing myself for your sons reaction if/when he does find out.

[Psyrex 56]

It's been 8 months since that night. He hasn't told anyone and I believe him. If he does, he loses his sex privilege with my wife next month. I don't see him saying anything to our son so I think it's a non-issue. They've hung out and partied since then and nothing. I get your point that he would say anything to get laid but that just doesn't seem to be the case.

[Ticketyboo 21]

we are not into this - seems weird

[Psyrex 56]

we are not into this - seems weird

 

What's weird about it? We both think it's hot.

[Bob250 74]

This, to my mind, is an extremely bad idea. The chances of a 21 yo keeping this a secret are about nil. You need to figure out how you are going to handle the fallout. Frankly, why you would jeopardize your relationship with your son, in order to have sex with a younger man , says more about you as parents, not swingers. Putting your own desires above the welfare of your child is just wrong.

[Psyrex 56]

We have actually decided not to do it again, but I trust this kid.

 

I appreciate everyone's honesty.

 

What we have decided to do is leave what happened in the past. We can find a younger man away from our private lives for a one-time fling. Besides one good fuck from a younger man, what we have been talking about is an older single male, 35-55 for her or a couple, 40s-mid 50s for some long-term fun.

[sunbuckus 3,569]

Hi, Psyrex. While I am glad to hear that you two have decided to not repeat the experience with your son's friend, I can understand the allure of it. I know it can be very complimentary to your wife to have such a younger man find her attractive! I think she can find that in other younger men if you both are still interested in it...just not with your son's friends. I bet if you go to a swingers club or try the online swinger profile route, you'll see that she will attract younger men, too.

[Psyrex 56]

While my wife likes the idea of getting fucked by a younger man, she really wants someone with experience, 25 years or older.

 

She still wants to fuck Tim but sees the danger and I think that thrill turns her on and his dick is enough to make her not care. We're just going to have to find a different guy to fuck my wife.

[GuyInMD79 1,500]

We're just going to have to find a different guy to fuck my wife.

I'm confident that you can find such a guy! There are plenty of single guys available, who do not carry the kind of risk that went along with your prior experience.

[Psyrex 56]

I'm confident that you can find such a guy! There are plenty of single guys available, who do not carry the kind of risk that went along with your prior experience.

 

Our experience was good. My wife and her young lover definitely enjoyed it. I like the thought of my wife giving herself up to him and letting him use her mouth and pussy for his sexual gratification. In fact, after all the replies we got warning of the very real risk that our kids would find out their mom is fucking their friend, we decided to find another guy. But last night, my wife asked again if she could send him some more nude pics since we were taking some to post here. I texted him a hot pic of my wife and then she said she still wants to fuck him. Her reason being, she already knows him, he doesn't have to worry about using a condom, and she just simply wants his cock inside her again. I think we're back where we started. She does want to find a regular fuck buddy, one that doesn't hang out with our two oldest son's, but she still wants to fuck Tim at least once more. We had awesome sex last night talking about it and I'm excited so it will probably happen. Then we'll find her another fuck buddy.

[Psyrex 56]

My wife is starting to complain that I'm making her sound like a sex-starved slut who will fuck the first guy that gets within 20 feet of her. I'm posting from my perspective. She has the password to our account here. I hope no one thinks less of my wife. She is my perfect angel. I just keep poking myself with her horns. :p

[enhancer 1,586]

I doubt anyone here thinks your wife is a slut for fucking other men! This is a swinger site where people that have sex with others come to talk. If they did they would be in the wrong place.

 

The part about your son's friend is what I think many think is a risk they just would not take. Most will do whatever they can to keep their family life separate from their play life.

[Psyrex 56]

We did pretty good with keeping the separation from sex life and family life. Tim is like our 6th son (with major oedipal issues) and I completely trust him. I would even go so far as give her a hall pass with him. We are just going to use hotels across town.

[sunbuckus 3,569]

I texted him a hot pic of my wife and then she said she still wants to fuck him. Her reason being, she already knows him, he doesn't have to worry about using a condom, and she just simply wants his cock inside her again.

 

It's a very easy route to take to have sex with someone you already know; however, with your wife, she needs to determine what is more important to her--having sex with her son's friend and the risk and ramifications that could damage her son and her relationship with him if he ever found out or protecting the relationship she does have with her son. Honestly, if I found out my father had sex with one of my friends at that age, I would be horrified, disgusted, and I probably wouldn't want to even be around him. I know we tease men all the time about thinking with their "little heads" instead of the one on top of their body but the same can go for women, too.

 

Also, just because you know someone doesn't mean it's safe to play bareback with them. For all you know, he could be having sex with many other women. I think you two really need to calm down and discuss the risks that come with being non-monogamous, which does include STIs/STDs, emotional risks to yourselves and the relationship, and much more.

[Psyrex 56]

After not seeing Tim for a couple months, my wife and I sent him some nudes since we joined this forum. We just found out he has a girlfriend. We don't want to get between them so this has been moot point. When we do find that third man or couple to play with, believe me, safety will be practiced.

[enhancer 1,586]

Hopefully his girlfriend won't see the pictures!

[GoldCoCouple 4,068]

Finding a new man shouldn't be hard at all...for as rare sbf (single bisexual females) are, single men are just the opposite. Post on any of the swingers sites and usually even if you say you are NOT looking for a single male you usually will get dozens of them. By asking for one, she should be able to take her pick from hundreds.

[Psyrex 56]

That is something that don't know how to pursue. Finding a single man or couple online or try to find them at clubs or other places. We don't want any BS (who does?) so filtering through dozens of propositions will be tedious. It almost scares one away. Almost.

[Psyrex 56]

Hopefully his girlfriend won't see the pictures!

 

Yeah, that would be bad.

[Bob250 74]

It never ceases to amaze me , how people can continue to do potentially destructive things, even after repeated warnings or even against their own better judgement. I truly hope this doesn't blow up in you guys faces, but it seems to me that it probably will. Personally speaking, I try to avoid sh*tstorms whenever and wherever possible.

 

I'm older, but I still remember my younger days, and if my parents had done something like this to me, and I found out, the crap would hit the fan.....bigtime. Your story says more about you as parents, than it does about you as swingers.

 

It reminds me of a friend I have. He (divorced) slept with a friend of his college age daughter. She found out and has not spoken to him in about 5 years.

 

Involving your immediate family in swinging activities, is almost a certain recipe for disaster. And having your little secret dependent on the discretion of a 20-something young man , makes it even worse. I would bet a lot that there are already other people who know about it. So my advice is to stop thinking about f*cking Tim and start thinking about how you are going to handle this.

[Psyrex 56]

Bob250 said:

It reminds me of a friend I have. He (divorced) slept with a friend of his college age daughter. She found out and has not spoken to him in about 5 years.

 

Involving your immediate family in swinging activities, is almost a certain recipe for disaster. And having your little secret dependent on the discretion of a 20-something young man , makes it even worse. I would bet a lot that there are already other people who know about it. So my advice is to stop thinking about f*cking Tim and start thinking about how you are going to handle this.

 

We already figured it out. There will not be a next time with him. This has been one helluva ride but now that we know he has a girlfriend, that's it. We'll look for and find someone else.

[Bob250 74]

Normally, I am a very "live and let live" sort of guy. I have only 3 issues with the LS that I am opposed to, and this is one of them. But You do what you want.

[Psyrex 56]

I'm also a live and let live type and I will do what I want. It's not even an issue anymore but I understand and appreciate all replies, advice, and input.

[Mbgdallas 203]

Normally, I am a very "live and let live" sort of guy. I have only 3 issues with the LS that I am opposed to, and this is one of them. But You do what you want.

 

What are your other two out of curiosity?

[Mbgdallas 203]

Bob250 said:

It reminds me of a friend I have. He (divorced) slept with a friend of his college age daughter. She found out and has not spoken to him in about 5 years.

 

Involving your immediate family in swinging activities, is almost a certain recipe for disaster. And having your little secret dependent on the discretion of a 20-something young man , makes it even worse. I would bet a lot that there are already other people who know about it. So my advice is to stop thinking about f*cking Tim and start thinking about how you are going to handle this.

 

I certainly get this and agree.

 

But I think a son would react differently than a girl. The daughter would be upset because her friends think her dad is a perve. A man must be a perve to seduce and fuck younger women. A son would either shrug it off, congratulate his friend on banging his hot mom, or simply ask his mom not to do it again. Guys will fuck anything that walks so older woman isn't seen as taboo. He still did the chasing so he must have wanted it.

 

Just my thoughts on how reactions and society might look at it differently. Kind of the same as a female teacher and male student vs a male teacher and female student. I think the boy would want it and wouldn't have to be coerced very much. The girls on the other hand was taken advantage of and misused by a person on authority. The male teacher always seems to be thought of in a more negative light than the female teacher.

 

Just asking and just saying.

[sunbuckus 3,569]

I get what you're saying, Mbgdallas, but as a parent, I would hope that I am placing my relationship with my children much higher than my lustful desires. I'm a good 10+ years away from having a son in the age bracket of the OP, but I would hope that I consider the possible ramifications, were I to find myself in the same shoes. Not only would there be a change in respect that my son would have toward me, but it would affect his relationship with his father and his friend. Maybe he would think that I was cheating on his father. Maybe he wouldn't be able to look at his friend or me in the face without imagining what occurred.

 

I value the relationship I have with my son to understand that there are boundaries that are best not to be tested. I wouldn't want to risk losing the relationship I have with my son for a 15 minute sex fling with his friend.

 

But that is just my opinion and how I would see the situation. Everyone is different and will act differently.

[Bob250 74]

Mbgdallas said:

What are your other two out of curiosity?

 

Since you asked, Dallas. 1. No sex with family members OR their close friends. 2. No sex with close vanilla friends. It is much, much, better to make friends with your swinger partners, than the other way around. 3. No BBC. I am a mixed race person , and I have a big dick. But, I am a MAN with a dick....not a dick with a body attached. It is a matter of respect.

 

One of the big reasons why I decided to stop active swinging, was for this last reason. It is also one of the reasons I am not a nudist.

[GuyInMD79 1,500]

Psyrex, I think you have heard plentiful, voluminous advice from others about your previous situation (which is, after all, in the past now and can't be undone), so I will not beat a dead horse. Let's move on!

 

Psyrex said:

That is something that don't know how to pursue. Finding a single man or couple online or try to find them at clubs or other places. We don't want any BS (who does?) so filtering through dozens of propositions will be tedious. It almost scares one away. Almost.

 

Granted, this process may be more tedious than what's you have done in the past. And you're right that there will probably be a little BS along the way (people who never write back, the nice profile where's the guys turns out to be a jerk in person, etc.). But that is, to some extent, the cost of doing business! The thing that makes the work (and occasional frustration) worth it is the payoff- a great sex partner and sometimes (if you're looking for this) great friendships.

 

Just to give you one couple's experience, in terms of the amount of tedium, time, and work involved... We put up a profile on SLS in mid-August of 2014. We got several nice, unsolicited, email introductions within a week or two. We were invited to our first meet-and-greet in late August, and if we'd wanted to, we could have had our first play date that night (we'd gotten an invite to come home with one of the couples at the meet-and-greet). As it was, in our slightly more deliberate approach, we met a nice couple for dinner soon afterwards, and had our first play date within a month of putting our profile up on SLS. Your mileage may vary, of course, but my point is that it's not necessarily a huge hassle to meet good people online, and for us, the rewards far outweigh the effort that we put into it!

[Alura 2,775]

We were always open with our sons. They knew of our swinging. But to include their friends in our play is something we never considered.

[SA_NewtoLS 163]

I'm also a live and let live type and I will do what I want. It's not even an issue anymore but I understand and appreciate all replies, advice, and input.

 

The fact that you think it is not even an issue anymore is a real issue. Just because the beans have not been spilled yet does not mean they are not sitting on the edge of the counter about to fall. You act like him having a girlfriend makes it all go away, but it doesn't. If anything, that makes it worse. They start to get a little serious and she starts going through his phone/PC and finds those pictures, boom, the whole thing blows up in your face.

 

Seriously, you need to quit acting like this is not an issue and prepare for the eventuality of this getting out. I can almost guarantee it will at some point. It might be 20 years down the road at your son's high school reunion but it will eventually get out.

[SA_NewtoLS 163]

I certainly get this and agree.

 

But I think a son would react differently than a girl. The daughter would be upset because her friends think her dad is a perve. A man must be a perve to seduce and fuck younger women. A son would either shrug it off, congratulate his friend on banging his hot mom, or simply ask his mom not to do it again. Guys will fuck anything that walks so older woman isn't seen as taboo. He still did the chasing so he must have wanted it.

 

Just my thoughts on how reactions and society might look at it differently. Kind of the same as a female teacher and male student vs a male teacher and female student. I think the boy would want it and wouldn't have to be coerced very much. The girls on the other hand was taken advantage of and misused by a person on authority. The male teacher always seems to be thought of in a more negative light than the female teacher.

 

Just asking and just saying.

 

People get scarred for life walking in on their parents having sex. "How could he do that to my Mom." Having walked in on my Mom sucking a man's dick before, and not my step-dad at the time either, I can tell you, you never look at your Mom the same again. Yeah, it's more acceptable for young men to fuck older women, but that's my Mom.

[Bob250 74]

I certainly get this and agree.

 

But I think a son would react differently than a girl. The daughter would be upset because her friends think her dad is a perve. A man must be a perve to seduce and fuck younger women. A son would either shrug it off, congratulate his friend on banging his hot mom, or simply ask his mom not to do it again. Guys will fuck anything that walks so older woman isn't seen as taboo. He still did the chasing so he must have wanted it.

 

Just my thoughts on how reactions and society might look at it differently. Kind of the same as a female teacher and male student vs a male teacher and female student. I think the boy would want it and wouldn't have to be coerced very much. The girls on the other hand was taken advantage of and misused by a person on authority. The male teacher always seems to be thought of in a more negative light than the female teacher.

 

Just asking and just saying.

I don't know where you grew up, but if one of my friends told me he fucked my mom, it would be a very long time before he ever wanted, or was able, to fuck anybody else's mom. A guy I knew bragged about feeling up my sister.....he only did it once.

[ViSexual 1,008]

I have to wonder what kind of young men some of the posters were. I do know that I, at twenty, would have never said a word if asked not to and afforded an opportunity like that. I think there are lots of young men and women who would respect a person's privacy and not tell. But those young people are probably in our military and not just still living at home in their twenties.

 

And I had to chuckle after reading Bob250's post. If one of my friends bragged to me about screwing my mother when he and I were twenty, I'd have lost all respect for his choices. My mother wasn't at all hot. But I'd probably just have laughed it off because, honestly, I never really liked her anyway.

[Bob250 74]

ViSexual said:

I have to wonder what kind of young men some of the posters were. I do know that I, at twenty, would have never said a word if asked not to and afforded an opportunity like that. I think there are lots of young men and women who would respect a person's privacy and not tell. But those young people are probably in our military and not just still living at home in their twenties.

 

And I had to chuckle after reading Bob250's post. If one of my friends bragged to me about screwing my mother when he and I were twenty, I'd have lost all respect for his choices. My mother wasn't at all hot. But I'd probably just have laughed it off because, honestly, I never really liked her anyway.

 

Well, that says a lot more about your and Psyrex's family relationships than it does about the issue of involving your immediate family in swinging activities without their consent or knowledge. Unless directly confronted, I will say no more about this, except that it is a very bad business.

[GoldCoCouple 4,068]

Let me tell you that having to wade through dozens (if not hundreds) of responses to find the 'right' guy isn't nearly as hard as trying to find ONE available woman for a mff. Let along finding 'the right' woman where everyone clicks. It can take years to find one woman while it could take minutes to find 10 guys. And to find guys, you don't even have to burn your shed to the ground!

[Mbgdallas 203]

I don't know where you grew up, but if one of my friends told me he fucked my mom, it would be a very long time before he ever wanted, or was able, to fuck anybody else's mom. A guy I knew bragged about feeling up my sister.....he only did it once.

 

I don't disagree with your reaction I just think it is different between males and females.

 

How old was your sister. I probably would have reacted a lot differently about my sister than my mom. Don't know why just think I would have.

 

With my mom, would have been a lot more worried about my dad and their marriage than her fucking a friend. I also think it would be different about "how" my friend was bragging. If he was demeaning my mom it would be a negative reaction. If he was praising then I might think the reaction more neutral to positive. Lot more to the reaction than just bragging.

 

As far as people being scarred by walking in on their parents. Really? In your twenty\Ives you would be scarred?

 

Don't anyone get me wrong. I am not encouraging this and certainly don't think it is good. I just don't necessarily think it is the potential disaster that is being described although there is a chance that it could be.

[SA_NewtoLS 163]

I don't disagree with your reaction I just think it is different between males and females.

 

How old was your sister. I probably would have reacted a lot differently about my sister than my mom. Don't know why just think I would have.

 

With my mom, would have been a lot more worried about my dad and their marriage than her fucking a friend. I also think it would be different about "how" my friend was bragging. If he was demeaning my mom it would be a negative reaction. If he was praising then I might think the reaction more neutral to positive. Lot more to the reaction than just bragging.

 

As far as people being scarred by walking in on their parents. Really? In your twenty\Ives you would be scarred?

 

Don't anyone get me wrong. I am not encouraging this and certainly don't think it is good. I just don't necessarily think it is the potential disaster that is being described although there is a chance that it could be.

 

I was 17, my senior year in High School, when I walked in my mother sucking a man's dick and yes, I have never looked at her the same. We don't even talk anymore and have not in about 5 years. Though a lot of that is due to other issues, it certainly added to the fire.

 

It's also not necessarily the act of knowing about it, it just shows a lot about a person's personality. In my case, she was the type of person who was selfish and just did not think about others. She knew what time I came home from school and knew I came in the front door all the time, yet there he was on the couch with her on her knees blowing him as I walked in the front door at the normal time from school. It showed that she just did not even think about me and all she cared about was her own pleasure. It also shows the type of guy she goes out with, as we were actually living with this other couple at the time and he knew I'd be there too. Selfish people who just do not care about their child and how something like that might affect them.

[Mbgdallas 203]

I get what you're saying, Mbgdallas, but as a parent, I would hope that I am placing my relationship with my children much higher than my lustful desires. I'm a good 10+ years away from having a son in the age bracket of the OP, but I would hope that I consider the possible ramifications, were I to find myself in the same shoes. Not only would there be a change in respect that my son would have toward me, but it would affect his relationship with his father and his friend. Maybe he would think that I was cheating on his father. Maybe he wouldn't be able to look at his friend or me in the face without imagining what occurred.

 

I value the relationship I have with my son to understand that there are boundaries that are best not to be tested. I wouldn't want to risk losing the relationship I have with my son for a 15 minute sex fling with his friend.

 

But that is just my opinion and how I would see the situation. Everyone is different and will act differently.

 

Please don't misunderstand what I say. I am in complete agreement with what you say from where I sit. I just think there could be a double standard between a son/mother daughter/dad. I think it is a horrible risk to take and agree that it would be selfish.

[sunbuckus 3,569]

Mbgdallas, I agree...there can be a lot of double standards and not just in this regard.

[machiavel55 81]

Mbgdallas said:

I certainly get this and agree.

 

But I think a son would react differently than a girl. The daughter would be upset because her friends think her dad is a perv. A man must be a perv to seduce and fuck younger women. A son would either shrug it off, congratulate his friend on banging his hot mom, or simply ask his mom not to do it again. Guys will fuck anything that walks so older woman isn't seen as taboo. He still did the chasing so he must have wanted it...

 

No way!I don't know how your male friends behaved at that age wherever you are from, but where I grew up and spent my teens and early twenties, (Paris followed by Montreal), one of my friends fucks my mom and I somehow hear about it, first I put him in the hospital, then I face the consequences and I would also be very critical of my mom, directly at her. And 90% of my male friends then would have done exactly the same thing. Moms are sacred.

[Mbgdallas 203]

No way!I don't know how your male friends behaved at that age wherever you are from, but where I grew up and spent my teens and early twenties, (Paris followed by Montreal), one of my friends fucks my mom and I somehow hear about it, first I put him in the hospital, then I face the consequences and I would also be very critical of my mom, directly at her. And 90% of my male friends then would have done exactly the same thing. Moms are sacred.

 

Different day today than when I grew up. Moms and dads are no longer sacred. The are all trying to be their kids best friends and not their parents. The way the act around their kids and kids friends is much different.

[machiavel55 81]

Different day today than when I grew up. Moms and dads are no longer sacred. The are all trying to be their kids best friends and not their parents. The way the act around their kids and kids friends is much different.

 

You are right about some groups, but I'm Jewish, and even my buddies grandchildren (I'm 60), who go out, party hard, maybe drugs, all kind of sex, behave just like any other teen in the western world would say the same thing, moms are sacred. It"s all in the family structure and how you raise your children. The 21st century is not an excuse.

[Mbgdallas 203]

You are right about some groups, but I'm Jewish, and even my buddies grandchildren (I'm 60), who go out, party hard, maybe drugs, all kind of sex, behave just like any other teen in the western world would say the same thing, moms are sacred. It"s all in the family structure and how you raise your children. The 21st century is not an excuse.

 

I agree. It's all in how you raise your kids. We raise them differently today. There is not the respect of parents as there was when I was a teenager. They are no longer "parent" figures but "friends". Totally different dynamic. Also, with the internet things are much more sexual than when I was a kid. We didn't have the access to porn and sex like the kids do today. When we have a POTUS say that oral sex is not really sex it opens the world up to a completely different concept.

 

Of course there are exceptions. I just see the pendulum having swung to where the exception would be the son being upset vs in my day it woild have been the opposite. The exception would have been the son not being upset.