My Advice To Single Men

[Guest]

MY ADVICE TO SINGLE MEN:

 

I have been involved in the swinging lifestyle for well over 20 years now, and during that time I have had my fair share of experiences including MMF / MFF threesomes and even foursomes with other couples. More to the point I'd say over the years me and my female partners have met a fairly large number of so called "Single Men" and for what it is worth I thought I'd offer my advice and suggestions to those men who are trying to explore this lifestyle.

 

If you a man trying to explore this lifestyle then by all means read this post and perhaps you will improve your chances of success in this lifestyle.

 

What follows is my own personal suggestions to any male trying to get involved with group sex:

 

1. CHEATING: If you are a man who is cheating on your girlfriend or wife, if your simply looking for some discreet no strings fun behind your partner's back then PLEASE do us swinging couples a favour and simply join a fling/affair based web site online as there are many to chose from. These web sites are sometimes called "Fling Sites / Hook Up Sites / Affair Sites" but they are packed with people who are simply looking for no string discreet sex without needing to involve the issues and complexity of swinging and dealing with couples. Also it is worth noting that on most normal "Dating Sites" there are countless single women who are simply looking for fun, in fact most of the normal everyday dating sites have options that say "Just Looking For Fun / Not Looking For Commitment". In fact there are a lot of women out there who just want to go out and have a good time and get laid, you do NOT need swinging to find someone to cheat with.

 

2. WOMEN: If your ONLY GOAL as a man is to sleep with new women then again please do swinging couples a favour and simply join a Hook Up Site / Affair Site / Dating Site / Fling Site and find a single women who would like some male company. Please be aware that on swinging sites there are a VERY LIMITED number of single women where on your average dating site there are hundreds if not thousands of women all seeking anything from no strings sex to proper relationships. If all you desire is sex with a women then you don't need swinging to find that.

 

3. INTRODUCE YOURSELF: If you are still interested in swinging, if you still want to explore the world of threesomes and group sex with couples then when you do contact a couple please make sure to actually "Introduce Yourself". It actually annoys a lot of couples when a man asks them for sex / sexual meetings without even giving their name, without even taking the normal common decency to introduce themselves. Saying "Hello my name is James" takes seconds and it will help couples get to know you better and feel more settled speaking with you.

 

4. GIVE EVERYDAY DETAILS: When you contact a couple I highly recommend spending a little time describing yourself as a person, for example what hobbies you enjoy / what sports you play / what music you like / what you do for a living / roughly what location you live in / if you smoke or not / if you live alone or with friends, family, partner / what films you like / what you usually get up to on a weekend / if you have any other interests / what games you like. This information will actually help the couple a lot and will often speed up the process. It will not only speed up the process and make a couple feel more at ease with you but will quickly allow couples to see if your a good match for them.

 

5. FACE / BODY PICTURES: If you contact a couple please make sure you send that couple a recent photo of your face / body, please don't just send them pictures of your penis. If possible send the couple several pictures of your face, and several pictures of your body (not just your penis) and again this will help greatly and speed up the process.

 

6. READ PROFILE: It does help greatly if you actually read the profile that the couple has written, within that profile are usually details and hints about what that couple is looking for allowing you to see if they would be a good match for you.

 

7. BISEXUAL: If you look at a couple's profile and it clearly says they are bisexual or looking for other bisexual people then it would help greatly if you are actually bisexual. Please do NOT pretend to be bisexual just to try and sleep with a new women. Like stated above if your only goal is to sleep with a women then simply join one of the other types of web sites that often have far more women on them. If you class yourself as a fully 100% straight male then please make sure that is what the couple is actually looking for.

 

8. HOMOPHOBIC: If you class yourself as a man who is homophobic, a man who HATES the idea of been near other naked men, who hates the idea of other men seeing them naked, who hates the idea of sharing the same women with another man, a man who is disgusted / angry / paranoid about been around other men in a sexual nature then please do not get involved with swinging with couples that include another man. Simply focus your attention on trying to find a single women or even two women and don't bother trying to meet couples that have a male half.

 

9. HYGIENE: If your a man wanting to explore this subject then please make sure your own personal hygiene is really good, that means bathing / showering everyday, cutting your nails, trimming pubic hair, shaving unsightly beards or areas, wearing clean unstained clothes, brushing teeth and tongue, wearing clean shoes, washing your hair, cutting or brushing your hair, wearing deodorant, using scents or aftershaves, trimming nose or ear hair, trimming your eyebrows. If you have very good hygiene, in person and on your profile pictures it will help everyone involved.

 

10. BATH BEFORE MEETING: If you do arrange to meet a couple then please shower or bath shortly before meeting them, do NOT have a shower before work then attend work for 8 hours and expect a couple to meet a stale smelly man. If your going to meet a couple then please shower or bath about 30 minutes before you leave the house to meet them. Having a bath the day before is not good enough, having a bath that morning before work is not good enough, if your meeting someone bath or shower fully just before you leave to meet them.

 

11. GET CHECKED OUT: If your planning to meet couples for sexual fun then please do everyone a favour and pop to your local sexual clinic and get tested for STD'S / STI'S and make sure you are sexually clean before playing with people. These tests are 100% confidential, they take minutes to achieve if you book an appointment, and at worst you need to have a urine and blood test and you will not only make sure you are safe but will help ensure the safety of people you play with. Remember a lot of countries now class it as illegal, or even attempted murder to knowingly pass on a STD or STI (Sexually Transmitted Disease / Sexually Transmitted Infection) in some cases people are getting heavy prison sentences for spreading such STD'S / STI'S.

 

12. FRIENDSHIP: Please consider that the couple you are meeting "Might" actually want a normal everyday friendship along with the sexual side, that not every couple are hardcore sex addicted porn stars, in fact the vast majority of couples into this lifestyle are just normal everyday people like me or you. Many couples are not simply here for sex alone but also to have fun social times, to meet new people, chat with new people, make friends with new people, share adventures and experiences with new people. This means they wanted to be treated like human beings not like blow up sex dolls.

 

13. HOTEL BILL: If a couple agrees to meet you in a hotel for a sexual experience then please put your hand in your pocket and pay for half of the hotel bill. For a couple paying for travel / food / drinks / hotel / child care / can actually be a very expensive thing, just to meet you some couples will have to spend a fortune and it will often help them greatly if your also willing to contribute to some of that cost, even just half the hotel bill will help greatly.

 

14. FOLLOW THE RULES: Please make sure to ask the couple if they have any rules or boundaries regarding sexual play or meeting you, and make sure to pay attention and keep those rules. You might say rules are there for breaking, but actually a lot of couples have things like mortgages / children / sick family members / debts / not to mention their relationship and future to think about and by breaking the rules you are putting those things in danger and will often be totally outcast by that couple, they may even call the police if the situation is serious enough.

 

15. KEEP YOUR DISTANCE: Just because a couple agrees to play with you that does NOT MEAN they want you showing up at their home uninvited, that does not mean they want you turning up at their workplace / social hangouts / places of study / hobby locations and so on. If you do turn up at such places uninvited you will not only upset the couple but may land yourself in trouble with the police for stalking. Where couples are concerned I fully suggest calling the police if a man causes you or your life any trouble whatsoever.

 

16. BE POLITE: It goes without saying but the vast majority of couples are looking for someone to treat them nicely / with decency / and to be friendly and polite. Messaging a new couple and simply asking "Do you want to fuck?" or saying "Does your wife swallow cum?" or even the classic "Does your wife do anal sex?" is NOT being polite, it is not attractive, it is not sensual, and in fact most couples consider it to be rude and thoughtless. Use manners, be polite, be friendly, be honest and open and it will help your chances with couples.

 

17. ARRIVE ON TIME: If a couple agrees to meet you at 18:00 then make sure you arrive at 18:00 and no later than 18:15. If you are going to be late please message the couple and explain you will be late and see if that is okay. A lot of couples put in a lot of effort into meeting a new person, they not only have to clean themselves, clean the house, and mentally prepare, but they often need to arrange child care, food, drinks, sexual aids and you arriving an hour late can seriously effect those things.

 

18. DON'T PUSH THINGS: If the couple say they do not like anal sex then don't ask for anal sex. If the couple says they don't like people cumming in their mouths then don't ask to cum in their mouths. If the couple asks you to use condoms then please use condoms. If the couple asks you to take things slow then please take things slow. If you try and push boundaries and ask for things you know the couple doesn't want it will soon put them off you and end the entire situation.

 

19. HATS / SOCKS / CLOTHING: If your a fan of wearing baseball caps / beanie hats then cool, but that does NOT mean a couple wants to have sex with you whilst your wearing your hat. This is just personal preference but in my opinion you should take off hats, socks, strange items of jewelry or clothing before playing.

 

20. HAVE TIME: If your planning to meet a couple then please understand you actually need to have THE TIME to meet them. For example a lot of couples will want to speak for a while before playing, they will want to chat, ask questions, make sure rules or boundaries are understood, they might want to have a few drinks before playing meaning you might spend 1 or even 2 hours simply chatting, drinking, mentally preparing before you actually have sex. Please do NOT meet a couple if you only have 40 minutes to spare, if your meeting a new couple for the first 3 or 4 times please make sure you have enough time to chat, relax, have a drink or two (even soft drinks) and have enough time to have sex 1, 2,or even 3 times. Personally speaking as a man I'd not meet a couple unless I had at least 2 or 3 hours to spare.

 

21. DRINK / DRUGS / SMOKING: I strongly suggest you find out the couple's opinions on such things before you meet them. For example you might drink heavily but the couple you are meeting might not like alcohol at all. You might smoke heavily but the couple you are meeting might not like smoking at all. You might like certain recreational drugs but the couple your meeting might not. Please do NOT turn up at a couples home carrying beer, smokes, drugs unless you already know they are okay with that been in their home / near them.

 

22. KEEP THE SECRET: If you do meet a couple, if you do explore sexually with them then sure you might want to run off and tell your friends, tell your work mates, tell your best buddy but I can not stress enough how much damage talking to people about this subject can do. If you play with a couple then it is a private matter, they do not want people knowing and please believe me neither do you as a man or else it will come back and bite you in the ass.

 

23. WRITE A GOOD PROFILE: It helps a lot if you write a good profile for couples to read, most men cannot even write more than 2 or 3 lines but actually it will help couples a lot if you put in some effort with your profile. For example, explain your hobbies, explain your location, explain your body, explain what you are looking for, explain your hygiene standards, explain your sexuality, explain any issues you might have, give couples something to read, let them know more about you and it will help couples to contact you.

 

24. BE PATIENT: It can take sometime to speak with a couple, ask questions, give answers, arrange to meet, have social meetings, find the time where everyone is free to play. Life for most couples is rather hectic, it involves work, family, friends, cleaning, travelling, cooking, bills, the everyday stresses of life, everything from bad nights sleep to hard days at work and it can take a couple sometime to find the right evening to meet you. Don't expect a couple simply to drop everything and meet you within a minutes notice.

 

25. BE A GOOD PERSON: Finally I'd say if a couple does trust you enough to meet you for sex then the least you can do is be thankful and respectful of their relationship. Don't try and break them up, don't try and start some secret affair, don't try and stalk the women involved. If you want your own girlfriend or wife then go and find one of the hundreds of dating sites or meet one in person at a bar or work. Please understand if a couple agrees to have sex with you then NO you do not need to steal away the women to get sex, they have already agreed to have sex with you. You don't need to meet the women alone or start stalking anyone, they have already agreed to meet you as a couple. If you want your own wife or girlfriend, if you want an affair, if you simply want to fuck a women then there are loads of women out there without needing to cause a couple any issues.

 

 

OVERALL:

 

I hope this helps someone, if your a single man and you truly want to explore sex with couples then don't be a pushy sex obsessed clown but instead be a decent person, be honest, be open, offer the couple fun friendship and sex, be clean and polite, respect the rules and you will be the one man they are looking for out of the millions out there.

[JandKinBoise 858]

All very good advice. Unfortunately, the men who should be reading this can't even read a paragraph long profile.

 

You should add a section to couples on how to separate the good singles from the bad singles.

[max4boobs 15]

nice!

[max4boobs 15]

lol

[BobGann 40]

This is good advice...unfortunately, I find that it's frustrating to follow most of these points and not even have people open your emails!

[Guest]

This is good advice...unfortunately, I find that it's frustrating to follow most of these points and not even have people open your emails!

 

We are a couple and have to say 99% of the messages we open are deleted within 2 seconds, the reasons for that is because men bombard couples with messages like.

 

"Do you wanna fuck?"

 

"Hey you look sexy"

 

"Does your wife do anal sex?"

 

"Do you want to swallow my load?"

 

"You like big dick?"

 

"Wanna meet tonight?"

 

"I'd love to bang her"

 

 

If your a wise enough guy looking to explore then you would write 1 nice long message, you would write a message that introduces yourself, that gives the couple honest information about yourself, about what your looking for, about your hygiene standards, you would be the 1 polite, nice, open guy out of the thousands. Then you would send that message to 10 or 20 couples that catch your eye.

 

 

If your SELLING A CAR then you don't just write:

 

"It has wheels"

 

"It goes brum brum"

 

"You have to put fuel in it"

 

 

NO instead you write a nice detailed explanation, you give the possible buyers details about the cars colour / age / location / millage / running costs / new parts its had fitted / how long you have owned the car / what motoring tests or certificates it has / how powerful the engine is / who manufactured the car / you add at least 5 to 10 pictures / you clean the car before taking those pictures / you fill up any oil or fluid like compartments / you check the air pressure on the tyres / you give reasons why your selling the car.

 

Basically most guys would put it MORE EFFORT to sell a car than they do when trying to have sex with a couple.

[Initwithher 40]

And for some reason some says I have no pictures in my album but if you interested I can upload some !!!! Really?? Why didn't you already do it b4 contacting us, like saying there are couple things wrong with the car but if you interested buying lmk I will fix those things lol, for example, and the big turn off is acting like you will be a far better lover then her partner because you are young, bigger, so on so on,

[M1F2KTJ 473]

Damn! A single man looking to play with swingers hand book!

 

Most respectful single men already do these things.

[Erik13 157]

MY ADVICE TO SINGLE MEN:

 

I have been involved in the swinging lifestyle for well over 20 years now, and during that time I have had my fair share of experiences including MMF / MFF threesomes and even foursomes with other couples. More to the point I'd say over the years me and my female partners have met a fairly large number of so called "Single Men" and for what its worth I thought I'd offer my advice and suggestions to those men who are trying to explore this lifestyle.

 

If you a man trying to explore this lifestyle then by all means read this post and perhaps you will improve your chances of success in this lifestyle.

 

What follows is my own personal suggestions to any male trying to get involved with group sex:

 

 

 

8. HOMOPHOBIC: If you class yourself as a man who is homophobic, a man who HATES the idea of been near other naked men, who hates the idea of other men seeing them naked, who hates the idea of sharing the same women with another man, a man who is disgusted / angry / paranoid about been around other men in a sexual nature then please do not get involved with swinging with couples that include another man. Simply focus your attention on trying to find a single women or even two women and don't bother trying to meet couples that have a male half.

 

This is spot on. While both single guys we've been with didn't seem homophobic, they certainly didn't seem to like the idea of me being there.

[kranker 16]

Thank you sir, good and valid advice

[cplnuswing 4,713]

Excellent advice above, thanks for Sun&Moon for taking the time to put together such a great guide to single guys and swinging!

[Napoleon 230]

If I was a single man I wouldn't step foot in the lifestyle. Even as a man in a relationship me and my girlfriends were very unimpressed during our short time in the lifestyle.

 

Do swingers ever wonder why 99% of high-quality single men will never step foot in the lifestyle? I'll tell you the reasons why.

 

 

Reasons:

 

- 99% of the intelligent financially successful high quality physically good looking charming and confident single men will never belittle themselves for "easy sex" by being active in an environment(the lifestyle) that's clearly very anti-single male. With their money, physical looks, and confidence they can be active in other areas of society that highly praise and seek out high quality single men and not treat single men second class citizens.

 

 

- In the lifestyle it's ok for married and non-married women to do rude and inconsiderate things, basically they can get away with bad behavior and not get kicked out the lifestyle. And the vast majority of men in the lifestyle(from my observation) are spineless chumps, pander to women, and are afraid of calling women out on their bad behavior. 99% of high quality single men don't have to pander to women in order to get sex or a relationship with them, they especially won't tolerate women's bad behavior just to get access inside their vagina.

 

- 99% of high-quality single men age 20 to 45 who are physically fit, financially well off, and confident can "easily" get many young childless physically fit non-overweight beautiful vanilla women within the age range of 20 to 35 outside the lifestyle, and 90% of women inside the lifestyle do not fit this standard that 99% of physically fit, financially well off, confident single men seek out in women for sex or a relationship.

 

 

These are the reasons why 99% of high quality single men will never be active in the lifestyle.

 

Also, single women and married and non-married couples can and do act just as stupid and disrespectful as single men. I come across many dumb ass single women and married and non-married couples.

[padoc 1,703]

Then exactly WHY are you here? In case you missed it, this board is about swinging. In fact, the first clue you should have noticed is the title, SWINGERS Board. If you and your little harem find swinging and swingers so repugnant, why do you continue to grace us all with your presence and your comments? You're not part of the hobby and many of your posts particularly denigrate the women who ARE involved in it. I wonder why you seem to be compelled to share your questionable wit and warped wisdom with people about whom you so obviously feel superior?

 

Oh, and I have a bit of news for you. Most "high quality" single guys tend to look for and eventually find "high quality" single women and create relationships and families. And later, a very small percentage of those "hi quality" couples find their way to swinging. Yet those are the people you find repugnant. You seem to be a very troubled young man.

[Napoleon 230]

Then exactly WHY are you here? In case you missed it, this board is about swinging. In fact, the first clue you should have noticed is the title, SWINGERS Board. If you and your little harem find swinging and swingers so repugnant, why do you continue to grace us all with your presence and your comments? You're not part of the hobby and many of your posts particularly denigrate the women who ARE involved in it. I wonder why you seem to be compelled to share your questionable wit and warped wisdom with people about whom you so obviously feel superior?

 

Oh, and I have a bit of news for you. Most "high quality" single guys tend to look for and eventually find "high quality" single women and create relationships and families. And later, a very small percentage of those "hi quality" couples find their way to swinging. Yet those are the people you find repugnant. You seem to be a very troubled young man.

 

@padoc

 

Just like any other man or woman here I'm here to give my viewpoints and facts regarding sex, relationships, or any other dynamics between men and women.

 

And how am I degenerating women inside or outside the lifestyle? Women want to be around me, even when they get to know me they want to be around me. To varying degrees I welcome all women of all ages, shapes, sizes, looks, races, social, economical, and religious backgrounds, but I'm extremely specific and uncompromising in the women I'm willing to stick my penis in. I have my "personal preference" for women, you obviously have a problem with my personal preference, FUNNY I don't see you calling out women on their PERSONAL PREFERENCE TOWARDS MEN.

 

Question: WHY DONT YOU CALL OUT WOMEN ON THEIR PERSONAL PREFERENCES TOWARDS MEN???? If you're "man enough" you'll answer this question FOR ONCE and not evade it.

 

And the facts STILL REMAIN - 99% of high quality single men(whether they remain childless bachelors for life or get married or have kids later in life or not) will never step foot in the lifestyle for the REASONS I explained above.

[Jane1902 476]

Napoleon: I see you tossing the statistic 99% in many of your posts but no real reference to where you are getting your numbers. I see it as more an opinion than any validity. You state limited experience in the lifestyle so for any single male that walks into a club knowing he is in good physical shape, is used to only very attractive young single women and is also wealthy the others around you may pick up on the Carly Simon song playing in the background and just find you arrogant and have no interest. On the positive side you know you and are upfront and have no room for compromise.

[Newandnaughty 3]

Just curious as to where you come up with your “facts”? Which polls did you take to come up with the 99% “fact”? Just because you believe your own opinions, that doesn’t make them facts. You say women want to be around you, even after they get to know you. Either your persona on here is a complete act or I can 99% guarantee that very few women would like to be around you after they get to know you. You don’t swing. Your alleged 3 girlfriends don’t swing, not even with each other. You are disgusted by women that swing. You have very little free time because of your vast business endeavors, hours getting buff in the gym and entertaining 3 girlfriends, however, you’re the most frequent poster on a swingers site. You honestly don’t find that to be a bit odd?

[Napoleon 230]

Just curious as to where you come up with your “facts”? Which polls did you take to come up with the 99% “fact”? Just because you believe your own opinions, that doesn’t make them facts. You say women want to be around you, even after they get to know you. Either your persona on here is a complete act or I can 99% guarantee that very few women would like to be around you after they get to know you. You don’t swing. Your alleged 3 girlfriends don’t swing, not even with each other. You are disgusted by women that swing. You have very little free time because of your vast business endeavors, hours getting buff in the gym and entertaining 3 girlfriends, however, you’re the most frequent poster on a swingers site. You honestly don’t find that to be a bit odd?

 

 

- I have a lot of time, I only have a 3 to 7 hour work week. A few years ago I hired a real estate management company to managed my investments, this dropped my weekly work hours managing my properties down to 3 to 7 hours per week. My girlfriends have 40 plus hour per week jobs, they don't live with me, so I don't don't have to deal with or be around them every single day.

 

- I never called any woman in the lifestyle disgusting nor did I say I'm disgusted by them.

 

- And 99% of women in the lifestyle( regardless how HWP or " LACK OF" they are) are not physically attracted to 99% of men in the lifestyle. And at least 90% of men "strictly for sex" are willing to have sex with a woman they really don't find that physically attractive or just don't find physically attractive at all. Whereas at least 90% of women "strictly for sex" are ONLY WILLING( regardless how HWP or "lack of" they are) are only willing to have sex with the top 20% physically attractive men.

 

Whoever gets offended by this, your problem, not mine.

[Newandnaughty 3]

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- And 99% of women in the lifestyle( regardless how HWP or " LACK OF" they are) are not physically attracted to 99% of men in the lifestyle.

 

Do you have a link to this study? I know my wife wouldn’t play with a man that there’s no attraction whatsoever. The other women we’ve met in the lifestyle seem to feel the same way. Maybe we’re just getting lucky and meeting all of the 1%ers. Hopefully our luck stays intact.

[padoc 1,703]

99% of his posts on here are disrespectful to 99% of swingers. Which begs the question: WHY do you bother?? Perhaps its a need for attention or maybe it's in retaliation for the rejections you suffered before you became such a wealthy and therefore much more attractive man to the segment of young women who become more tolerant as your bank account increased. Im 99% sure that Im close to 99% right about this.

[Napoleon 230]

@padoc.

 

Rejection doesn't affect me at all. I've easily approached well over 6,000 women my 36 years living and been rejected by the vast majority of them. Rejection increases my confidence, not decrease it. And no I'm not looking for attention.

 

Now answer my question and stop evading it like you always do.

 

Question:

 

How come you never question women's personal preference towards men yet you're so quick to question men's personal preference towards women?

 

Stop acting like a little girl, act like a man for once and answer my question.

[Newandnaughty 3]

I don’t mind answering your question, if I may. When and if a woman comes on here and says she won’t date men that are not gorgeous, rich, handsome, well endowed and under 25, I’ll call her a shallow pig. If a woman were to say that, my guess would be she’s overweight, poorly educated, struggling financially and was dumped by somebody very similar to her. 99% of the time that’s the case when somebody tells you how great they are and how great their life is.

[Napoleon 230]

I don’t mind answering your question, if I may. When and if a woman comes on here and says she won’t date men that are not gorgeous, rich, handsome, well endowed and under 25, I’ll call her a shallow pig. If a woman were to say that, my guess would be she’s overweight, poorly educated, struggling financially and was dumped by somebody very similar to her. 99% of the time that’s the case when somebody tells you how great they are and how great their life is.

 

Thank you for your answer. ?

 

I still want padoc(if he's man enough) to answer my question. Of course more than likely he won't answer it. He's quick to challenge and speak on what I have to say but run and hide like a little girl when I challenge him back.

[Jane1902 476]

Perhaps Padoc has learned how to use the ignore button so he hasn’t been able to see your question. Not a bad example of why someone would use the ignore feature.

[padoc 1,703]

Sonny, I don't question your preferences, I question your lack of respect towards 99% of the people on this board and 99% of women. Women, by the way, allow and chose men to enter their bodies, a way more important choice than who you boink. Their preferences in that regard should be paramount. Answer enough for you kid??

[WSB421 91]

I think Napoleon may just have a complex...

[Napoleon 230]

@padoc

 

You still didn't fully answer my question. You don't question my personal preference, got it.

 

Part of my question you didn't answer: Do you "ever" question women on their personal preference?

 

And I have far more to "potentially" lose and far more riskier having sex with a woman than a woman has having sex with me. I bring far more in many ways to the table than the vast majority of women. It's more "paramount" for me when it comes to being sexually active.

[lcmim 1,081]

Then exactly WHY are you here? In case you missed it, this board is about swinging. In fact, the first clue you should have noticed is the title, SWINGERS Board. If you and your little harem find swinging and swingers so repugnant, why do you continue to grace us all with your presence and your comments? You're not part of the hobby and many of your posts particularly denigrate the women who ARE involved in it. I wonder why you seem to be compelled to share your questionable wit and warped wisdom with people about whom you so obviously feel superior?

 

 

The reason he is here is to provide comic relief. My wife sometimes just rolls her eyes at his comments but often it is extended laughter.

[Newandnaughty 3]

The reason he is here is to provide comic relief. My wife sometimes just rolls her eyes at his comments but often it is extended laughter.

 

Couldn’t agree more. My wife and I get a kick out of his posts. We had a good laugh yesterday when we were discussing what he really looks like and his fat bank account ???

[Napoleon 230]

Ha ha ha. Whatever.

[adamgunn 1,460]

Shhhhhh . . . don't anybody call the guy with the little name a troll, he hates that . . .

[Napoleon 230]

Shhhhhh . . . don't anybody call the guy with the little name a troll, he hates that . . .

 

Funny.

[Jane1902 476]

Back to the OP. Thank you Sun and Moon for some once again well written advice. It should be required reading before signing up on a swinger site.

He mentions what is the goal of the single male. Napoleon states he gets much better looking women in vanilla places and has referred to husbands as “spineless”. He has three young, beautiful girlfriends, all easily replaceable, his words. He does not appear to engage in group play and there isn’t any interaction among the women. I don’t think this type of relationship would be considered poly, just non-monogamous, but definitely not swinging. It sounds like the young women outgrow him. There are many hot childless women in his age range that don’t want children either, but they are looking for mature men. I am waiting for him to cite the source of his statistics. The comic relief is good and I enjoy hearing Carly Simon in my head when reading his posts as they seem just insulting to swingers and never any real questions.

Back to Sun and Moon’s excellent thread and posts in general. He should write a guide or perhaps there could be a “best of” his posts as they are very detailed and do overlap.

[Napoleon 230]

Back to the OP. Thank you Sun and Moon for some once again well written advice. It should be required reading before signing up on a swinger site.

He mentions what is the goal of the single male. Napoleon states he gets much better looking women in vanilla places and has referred to husbands as “spineless”. He has three young, beautiful girlfriends, all easily replaceable, his words. He does not appear to engage in group play and there isn’t any interaction among the women. I don’t think this type of relationship would be considered poly, just non-monogamous, but definitely not swinging. It sounds like the young women outgrow him. There are many hot childless women in his age range that don’t want children either, but they are looking for mature men. I am waiting for him to cite the source of his statistics. The comic relief is good and I enjoy hearing Carly Simon in my head when reading his posts as they seem just insulting to swingers and never any real questions.

Back to Sun and Moon’s excellent thread and posts in general. He should write a guide or perhaps there could be a “best of” his posts as they are very detailed and do overlap.

 

 

Single childless women in my age group(age 30 to 40) are seeking men to settle down with, get married and create children. I never want to get married or have kids. Single childless women age 20 to 25 most of them are not looking to get married or have kids yet, just find men who can give them fun exploratory times in and outside the bedroom. Single childless women are the most compatible to my lifestyle.

 

When I say I can easily replace my girlfriends, well, ITS TRUE and my girlfriends know it. I have women besides my girlfriends lined up who want to have sex with me and be in a relationship with me. It's just the truth. Also, women want to be with men who can easily get beautiful women.

 

Yes, most men nowadays inside and outside the lifestyle are a bunch of spineless chumps towards women. I respect and value women in many ways but I don't pander to women or put women on pedestals like the vast majority of men in the USA do. Even the vast majority of physically attractive financially successful are able to attract and get women but cant keep women because they pander and put women on pedestals. Women have little respect for men who give them the impression that they have more power and are more valuable than them.

[Newandnaughty 3]

??? gotta admit dude’s hilarious!

[padoc 1,703]

Why would I question a woman's preferences? Its her body, its her mind, its her desires, its HER choices and any good man will respect that.

[Jane1902 476]

I am going to give the man credit for knowing not to reproduce nor get involved with women with children. Too many people do because they think they should. When I was younger I was concerned some men wanted me for my uterus. When I was raising a child alone I made a point of not becoming involved with men with children, I knew my limits. But somehow I detect a negative tone from Nap. But then again his sweeping negative statements...really. Waiting to see sources of his information. Easily replaceable girlfriends shows little value for them as individuals. I am unique. There is only one of me. I would like to invite Nap’s girlfriends to please read and post here.

[Newandnaughty 3]

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say there aren’t girlfriends. I’ll even go further and say there isn’t even a girlfriend. His infatuation with the young, rich and beautiful is very telling. He’s not a swinger but comes on here because he’s enamored by the fantasy of it. His perception of himself is also a fantasy, I’d bet on it. He hates middle aged, heavyset women with children. Because he was in love with one and she broke his heart. Probably why I’m so amused by him, I honestly feel bad for him. He’s just a down on his luck average Joe and this is where he comes to vent. At least he didn’t tell us he’s a rock star or professional athlete........... yet

[Napoleon 230]

@padoc.

 

Ok. Got it. You don't question my personal preference or women's personal preference. I'll assume you don't question any other men's personal preference.

[Napoleon 230]

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say there aren’t girlfriends. I’ll even go further and say there isn’t even a girlfriend. His infatuation with the young, rich and beautiful is very telling. He’s not a swinger but comes on here because he’s enamored by the fantasy of it. His perception of himself is also a fantasy, I’d bet on it. He hates middle aged, heavyset women with children. Because he was in love with one and she broke his heart. Probably why I’m so amused by him, I honestly feel bad for him. He’s just a down on his luck average Joe and this is where he comes to vent. At least he didn’t tell us he’s a rock star or professional athlete........... yet

 

You're 100% wrong regarding everything you assumed about me. That tree limb broke under you.

 

- I don't hate any woman.

 

- I'm not infatuated with young beautiful women, as a heterosexual I just happen to be more sexually attracted to them than any other women. And I never been with a rich woman.

 

- I never was nor said I was a swinger. I only attended a swinger club a few times.

 

- Just in case you didn't know, there's many men in this world with more than one wife or girlfriend. It's nothing new.

 

- Nope, I'm not a rockstar or pro athlete(thank God). My work/craft is as an architect/real estate investor , there's tens of thousands of us in this world, nothing special.

[Napoleon 230]

I am going to give the man credit for knowing not to reproduce nor get involved with women with children. Too many people do because they think they should. When I was younger I was concerned some men wanted me for my uterus. When I was raising a child alone I made a point of not becoming involved with men with children, I knew my limits. But somehow I detect a negative tone from Nap. But then again his sweeping negative statements...really. Waiting to see sources of his information. Easily replaceable girlfriends shows little value for them as individuals. I am unique. There is only one of me. I would like to invite Nap’s girlfriends to please read and post here.

 

The 80/20 rule applies to men and women, it's so obvious in the dating, courtship, even swinger world. 80% of women want the 20% most desirable men. If they can't get one of the top 20% most desirable men they'll settle for a man in the lower 80% group. I think it's more 90/10.

 

- My girlfriends individually are unique and valued. I can replace them but I dont have a desire to and they haven't given me a reason to break up with them. They can break up with me for another man. And women dump the man they're with for another man far more often than men dump the woman they're with for another woman.

 

- I do like kids. I have a nieces and nephews who I love dearly. I just don't want kids of my own nor do I want to get involved with a woman that has a child.

 

- My girlfriends have seen me on my cellpone or laptop a few times posting on this website. They know I visit this site. I'll ask them if they mind posting on here and give their opinion regarding what I and others post.

[padoc 1,703]

Oh come on! 80%, 20% 99%. Tell the truth, you have no sources, you just pull these numbers out of your ass and throw them out there as if they were facts. You write fairly well, so I'll assume you that have some education. Consequently, you should know that you ought to provide documentary evidence or research to support your numbers. Otherwise, much like what I suspect of your social life, the percentages are but a figment of your overactive imagination.

[Napoleon 230]

Oh come on! 80%, 20% 99%. Tell the truth, you have no sources, you just pull these numbers out of your ass and throw them out there as if they were facts. You write fairly well, so I'll assume you that have some education. Consequently, you should know that you ought to provide documentary evidence or research to support your numbers. Otherwise, much like what I suspect of your social life, the percentages are but a figment of your overactive imagination.

 

Some education? Check my profile. I've designed and built multimillion dollar houses and apartment complexes and invested in cash producing multimillion dollar real estate properties for the last 14 years. I have a degree in architect and a real broker license. I built a lot of club houses as a kid. Building homes always came natural to me.

 

Source: Pareto Principle

 

The principle has been used in sports, business, warfare, agriculture, economics, supply and demand tracking, politics, courtship statistics in humans and animals, etc, the list goes on and on. I've applied this principle in architect and real estate investing, and my dating/sex life life.

 

Put 10,000 single women with 10,000 single men and around 80% or more of the women will only be attracted to around 20% or less of the men.

 

Of course how applicable and influencial this principle is in human society and all other systems of life on earth may be "too advance" for your brain cells to fully understand. Put that thought up your ass.

[Newandnaughty 3]

Some education? Check my profile. I've designed and built multimillion dollar houses and apartment complexes and invested in cash producing multimillion dollar real estate properties for the last 14 years. I have a degree in architect and a real broker license. I built a lot of club houses as a kid. Building homes always came natural to me.

 

?? How do you not love this guy? A degree in architect and a real broker license. Neither architecture nor realty, but architect degree and a really real broker. Thank you for providing my evening entertainment!!!!

[Jane1902 476]

Never thought I’d learn about economic principles on Swingers Board. But I am not about to take it across the board as fact, especially when it comes to human relationships. Enjoy your reality, it’s yours. One of the lovely things about a forum like this is you can be who you want to be. At best you are entertaining, otherwise misogynistic and rude. You have no interest in swinging, and that is what this board is about, notice the title.

[WSB421 91]

Architecture is detail oriented work, I would hesitate to enter any building designed by someone who cannot even master sentence structure.

[Napoleon 230]

Never thought I’d learn about economic principles on Swingers Board. But I am not about to take it across the board as fact, especially when it comes to human relationships. Enjoy your reality, it’s yours. One of the lovely things about a forum like this is you can be who you want to be. At best you are entertaining, otherwise misogynistic and rude. You have no interest in swinging, and that is what this board is about, notice the title.

 

I can only be me. I'm not pretending anything. I'm not making up my own reality. And yes this is a swinger site. Swingers and vanillas do speak on sex, dating, and relationships. Swingers and vinillas do have that in common.

[Napoleon 230]

Architecture is detail oriented work, I would hesitate to enter any building designed by someone who cannot even master sentence structure.

 

[WSB421 91]

 

I'm not a sentence nazi, just disappointed that you can't even bother to lie well. Using the same sort of detailed statistical analysis that you have over the course of this thread, I've determined that not a single person reading it believes you've ever conversed with a woman, much less been involved with three at the same time. You're wasting everyone's time here, perhaps you could waste your own in another place? People come here for answers and to provide real feedback on their own experiences for the benefit of this community. Please take your inane ramblings elsewhere.

[Napoleon 230]

I'm not a sentence nazi, just disappointed that you can't even bother to lie well. Using the same sort of detailed statistical analysis that you have over the course of this thread, I've determined that not a single person reading it believes you've ever conversed with a woman, much less been involved with three at the same time. You're wasting everyone's time here, perhaps you could waste your own in another place? People come here for answers and to provide real feedback on their own experiences for the benefit of this community. Please take your inane ramblings elsewhere.

 

So you think I'm lying and I can't lie well?

 

 

How's this for lying:

 

I absolutely positively care if you think I'm lying.

[Newandnaughty 3]

I absolutely positively care if you think I'm lying.

 

Ugh, finally he says something truthful.