Would you play with someone who is HPV positive?

[njbm 2,865]

Does wart causing vs. cancer causing type matter? With condoms or bareback?

[Guest 2B13RFUN]

Probably not.

[Funguy796 44]

No, DD free means something and a risk you take, you pass to any fellow swingers

[SW_PA_Couple 4,024]

Owing to the fact that I showed symptoms, I withdrew from swing activity for eighteen months. The HPV is now resolved in my system in a way that makes me unable to pass it to anybody else. For this reason I have no need to tell a prospective playmate about my HPV history.

 

Don't have a context for HPV positive as there is no test for a man that would indicate a positive or a negative.

[njbm 2,865]

Some men may have HPV that has no symptoms. If their female partner is positive, the man probably has it.

[njbm 2,865]

It was responsible of Mr. SW Pa couple to take a break.

[ErikaAndPeter 104]

I probably would avoid knowingly having sex with someone who was HPV positive. However, I suspect that as swingers, exposure is almost unavoidable. My recent Pap smear showed atypical squamous cells of undetermined significance, but the follow up HPV test did not show any high risk strains. So I may have been exposed at some point recently, but the HPV has cleared. Since I am currently negative, I have continued having sex with others.

[funcoupledayton 2,708]

By age 50, at least 80 percent of women will have been infected with genital HPV infection.If you swing you are exposed to hpv.

[Em4u 15]

HPV? I believe there is no way of testing men for this.

[njbm 2,865]

There is no accurate way of testing it in men. If a wife has it, one must presume that her significant other has it.

[NWAtlSwing 522]

If you swing, you swing with people who are HPV+

[a_d_xxx 663]

So, given that, many (most?) cases of HPV are asymptomatic (show no symptoms), men aren't (cannot) be tested, women are often only tested if they have an abnormal cells in their pap test, and the infection is very common.

 

The question becomes, what is the difference between someone who volunteers the info, vs someone who doesn't (to deceive), or doesn't because they don't know (the latter being the most likely case)?

 

I completely understand the ick factor of knowing someone has an infection, but at the same time, it kinda feels like rejecting someone who voluntarily disclosed would be punishing the wrong person in this scenario. I don't have an answer, and I'm not trying to shame, it just feels like a weirdly complicated ethical dilemma.

 

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[NWAtlSwing 522]

You already have

[njbm 2,865]

21 hours ago, NWAtlSwing said:

You already have

Already have played with HPV positive partners? I agree. Anyone actively swinging will. 

[NWAtlSwing 522]

On 7/30/2020 at 5:39 PM, njbm said:

Already have played with HPV positive partners? I agree. Anyone actively swinging will. 

Yep. No way around it. Heck, unless you and your partner are virgins and then never have sex with another, the odds are so in favor of exposure.

 

That is why my kids got the shot.

[barefoot_so_goo 46]

My view is the same as the majority. I probably had it and probably gave it to others. I was told by more than one medical professional that if I was sexually active, I had it, the end. I never had any symptoms, but I my gf developed the abnormal cells after we got together. I tend to think I gave it to her, but there's no way to know.

 

In my opinion, HPV is similar in effect to Epstein-Barr, the virus that causes mono and can lead to chronic fatigue, and also seems to lead to a susceptibility to some cancers in some people. Most people get mono and don't even notice, or it's just another cold. Others it's devastating. Would you not be sexually active because you had a bad case of mono, and so are perhaps more likely to pass the virus to others, when the overwhelming likelihood is they already had/have it and it's a non-issue?

 

For upcoming generations, it'll be more of a weird outlier, because you'd have to have foregone the vaccine, and why would you do that? The strains that are cancerous have no symptoms.

[njbm 2,865]

I am more than a little tired of these viruses. Unfortunately, we know three women in the lifestyle who had adverse problems with HPV. One cervical cancer case, one hysterectomy for undisclosed to us HPV problems, one with multiple procedures to remove irregular cells. We are a bit spooked. 

[barefoot_so_goo 46]

On 8/1/2020 at 2:11 PM, njbm said:

I am more than a little tired of these viruses. Unfortunately, we know three women in the lifestyle who had adverse problems with HPV. One cervical cancer case, one hysterectomy for undisclosed to us HPV problems, one with multiple procedures to remove irregular cells. We are a bit spooked. 

No question they suck. I know women who've had problems. Gynos tell me it's eminently treatable, and progression to something serious is from not knowing, or neglecting. Get your checkup every year, ladies.

[oc1234 435]

We have with a guy who found out he had been exposed to it. He was very apologetic, but since we were in our 50s, and had been playing with him for years, figured we had already been exposed and had fought it off. That was over ten years ago.