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Married Couple ready to enter the Lifestyle...

 

I’m having some reservations after window shopping profiles, some males don’t show their member, they just show the female. Then there’s the hung like a horse guy comparing flashlights and what not to his pride and joy!

 

Now, is being undersized in comparison, 5 inches, going to be an issue? :( My wife seems to likes it! LOL

 

I understand she’ll have fun with the larger version mentioned above, and I have no problems with that, in fact, I can’t wait to hear her screaming out in ecstasy playing with a bull!

 

So, my worries, is this going to make it harder finding playmates? Playmates that you “want” to play with? Considering other female being use to the “larger” package, is she going to be interested in playing with a smaller one?!? When does penis size come into the conversation?

 

Or, am I being a typical guy focusing in on penis envy?? Want my wife to have the best options available seeing how we want to play with couples... Threesomes, no brainer...

 

Thanks in advance for your advice and commits...

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Adamgunn - Thanks for your reply. Little body image conscience putting myself out there... I’m sure I’ll get over it once we dive in... After reading other like post, gotta look at the positives! At least I get rock hard, love oral, and as far as I know, no performance issues in front of others... Thanks again...

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You are fine Wall2705. You are right there with the rest of us, and feeling the exact same apprehensions I felt going in. Once you get into the LS I guarantee you that you will see some monsters, they are out there, but the vast majority of the men you see will be our size if not smaller.

 

Also, in my experience, the couple/lady have committed pretty much to have sex with you before they ever see your cock. Now when you get down to the point of getting it out, they are probably going to pause a moment or two to take a look at it. Don't fret, while they may casually notice the size, the main thing they are looking for are medical issues (signs of STDs), and as long as you don't have a bunch of warts or something on your member it will be in her mouth before you know it, then your off to the races.

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. . . My wife seems to likes it!.
Have no concern. Others will.

 

Women are attracted to personality traits more than to secondary sex characteristics. Outstanding secondary sex characteristics are a nice bonus but do not drive the initial yes-or-no decision.

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Most of the time, the decision to move forward with a guy or couple is based on chat and dance activity, cleanliness, manners, dress, intellect and humor. You really don’t see their penis until things are moving along. The except is possibly at nudist places, Desires for example.

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We once met a couple (through another couple we were seeing, we all went out for a day on the lake) where the guy was HUGE. Unfortunately, he seemed to think that size was all that mattered and would just hammer away at his woman, seemingly without caring about her pleasure. He also was rather crass and would touch the other women without asking or permission. Lets just say that we didn't see them again after that.

 

It's not the size of the wand, but the skill of the magician...

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Wall2705 I sent you a pm regarding your post , only telling you as I just realised I myself have a ton of unread mail, I guess I have notifications turned off or something lol, anyway I didn't want you to miss out on my awesome message

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I wouldn't exactly say I'm qualified to give you any advice, just my opinion. Having recently expanded my knowledge of men's bits, I'd rather go smaller than massive and as far as I'm concerned no matter how big or small its only a very small part of whether I'd have sex with a man anyway?

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You won't be out of place. The guys with huge dicks are the only ones who advertise their size, but they are the exception not the rule.

In reality I've encountered a lot of small to medium cocks in the lifestyle and a few really large ones. Also, while some women say they only want huge cocks, just as many want guys who are average.

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As others have said personality, compatibility, and presentation are far more important than physical attributes. 99% of the time the decision to have sex with a person is made before getting as far as an erect penis. And 5 inches is fairly average so I would worry you're small. I've seen and been with plenty of men your size or smaller, it's not an issue.

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As others have said personality, compatibility, and presentation are far more important than physical attributes. 99% of the time the decision to have sex with a person is made before getting as far as an erect penis. And 5 inches is fairly average so I would worry you're small. I've seen and been with plenty of men your size or smaller, it's not an issue.

 

Could not have written it better. All too often fantasies or stories are told by a man about another man with a bigger "unit"... 4-5 is avg and I would say normal.

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Guys worry about size more than women. You have what you have and what you have is what it is meant to be. Some people are tall others short. Big nose or button nose. It is true that women worry about their breasts. 4,5,6 are all normal unless you are watching porn. And large penises don’t necessarily mean great sex. Be yourself, unless you are an idiot, and women won’t shy away.

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It's also worth mentioning that girth is more important than length. I'd pick a guy with a thick penis over a guy with a long penis every time. The truth is a lot of women (including me) can't take vaginal penetration deeper than about 7 inches anyway, and anything above 4 inches is enough. Thicker is better if you have it, but even if you don't I still wouldn't worry. I've had a guy that can't have been more than 3 inches and skinny, and it was still OK, and I generally a prefer well endowed men (within reason).

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Fi86 - Thank you for your reply. On the plus side, my little buddy is thick. I’ve never had any complaints, (that I know of...lol), but I’ve never concidered putting myself out-there for all to see either... It was only after window shopping that I took notice of my size differences. I feel more confident to move forward. Thanks to all who posted, it really helped!

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Fi86 - Thank you for your reply. On the plus side, my little buddy is thick. I’ve never had any complaints, (that I know of...lol), but I’ve never concidered putting myself out-there for all to see either... It was only after window shopping that I took notice of my size differences. I feel more confident to move forward. Thanks to all who posted, it really helped!

 

Good luck and enjoy yourself! 4-5 thick inches is very nice, trust me ;-)

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I'm new on the forum, but I will pitch in on this one.

 

One person mentioned a medical survey on average penis size. I have a great article on the subject, including ethnic variations. It is based on a number of reliable medical surveys. All are non-self measured and non-self reported as they should be and arousal methods vary, so it gives a very good overview of average and ranges of both length and thickness. Level of arousal at any given time can and will affect results and the article covers this too. The surveys agree quite closely and the overall average consensus ("white/caucasian and all others" except Black and Asian) is 5.5", with the range between different study averages being 5.1" to 5.8". Length is correctly measured by non-contact or "just touching" methods with the penis erect and straight out from the torso, along the top surface from tip to belly. (The "insertable length").

 

Thickness is measure at mid shaft (so either end could be larger or smaller depending on shape) and it measured as DIAMETER, not circumference. Measurement of circumference is unreliable due to the methods available and usually yields exaggerated values. (That's why you see so many men advertising "thickness" with circumference - it sounds big! Plus it gives no real idea of actual size.) Also note that all those stupid photos with beer cans and other crap are usually exaggerations and erroneously measure from half way down their balls!! I think some of them must stick the end of the rule up their ass!

 

Regarding ethnic variations, medical studies and the WHO all recognize only 3 groups. "Black" "Asian" and "White/Caucasian and all others". Interestingly the AVERAGE Black penis is actually slightly shorter (but the range and shape of the "bell" curve is different - so yes, the "BBC" is only a partial myth, there are percentagewise more of them than in other groups - but to maintain the average, the converse is also true) and the AVERAGE Asian penis it shorter still (sorry guys). But the averages all fall within 4.5 to 5.5" and there is a huge overlap between the groups.

 

AVERAGE thickness variation by ethnic groups is slightly different, with Asian still smallest, but Black largest. In fact the WHO recommendations for standard condom sizes worldwide are based on that. The article also covers things like the micro-penis (under 3" and a real medical term) and some information on sexual preferences, etc.

 

This information is of course only a small synopsis so don't go jumping to any massive conclusions or get all upset. If anyone wants a copy PM me or may be I can post it on here somewhere? There is no copyright on it. BTW: In all groups, the median (midpoint of the range) is larger than the average so there are more smaller than average than larger than average.

 

So all you 4-5"ers are right in there with most. It also means that in all groups the "bell curve" is slewed - less bigger ones than smaller ones. One other thing to note is that gaining weight will shorten the measured size of your penis, however the actual organ itself remains the same - just partial buried so to speak. But it's the exposed "insertable" length that counts - maybe another good reason to loose those extra pounds!! (And for the record I guess I'm partial blessed at 7.25-7.5" erect depending on arousal but a bit thinner than average.)

 

I hope this is of some help and interest.

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I had a girlfriend who said she had one of her best orgasms with a guy with a small cock. She didn't say how small and I didn't ask. Because to fuck her he had to be pressing against her enough to stimulate her clit.

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I have seen far more looks of pain from women on too big than lack of pleasure from too small (as in never on the second one)

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My wife is 4’10” on a good day. She does not want a big p. Sometimes you don’t know what they are packing till the clothes come off.

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My wife is 4’10” on a good day. She does not want a big p. Sometimes you don’t know what they are packing till the clothes come off.

 

The size of a woman's vagina (and for that matter, the size of a man's penis) has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with their height. In fact oddly enough that is recorded in law. During a supposed date rape case some years ago the prosecutor tried to make it sound exceptionally terrible because of the large disparity in height of the man and woman (him well over 6ft, her well under 5ft). His comments were thrown out with a reprimand from the judge when several expert medical witnesses were called to debunk that myth. Incidentally it didn't help her case either. The jury found that it was consensual (they had been dating and fucking for several weeks!) and she was just trying to get back at him after he broke up with her.

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I think my partners love it that I can go balls deep without any pain. I also use the head of my cock to hit their spots.

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Hey there all. First post.

 

I’m only my wife’s third partner. The two prior than me were larger than myself. I’m 6.5” myself. She said she MUCH prefers my cock to theirs. All they did was give her bladder infections and such. And she now loves that she doesn’t get the infections all the time.

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Its not the size of the wand, but the skill of the magician...

 

"Hung" men have a habit of just "banging away" as the size should make up for any skill involved, where better lovers know how to best use what God has given them (IOHO).

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Size isnt an issue...as long as you know what you are doing and everyone is having a good time, in my opinion. My guy is always telling me how tiny I am in certain places..lol. Though I am a tall girl. I have been hurt by larger guys, and not hurt in a way that I liked. (And I enjoy a bit of pain) for me its more about connections and a great time being had by all involved.

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While I love my husband dearly, and enjoy our intimacy, he is a bit large down there. We have to use plenty of lube to get things in without discomfort. While I love the feeling of being filled up, we have to be careful that he does not go in too far, as a deep thrust hits my cervix quite painfully. He is also quite thick, and I cannot fit my mouth around past the head of his penis.

 

I actually prefer a more average sized penis, especially for oral.

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"What if you have 4 - 5 inches!"

 

I was getting excited, but sorry, I thought this was the ski report.

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Another thing OP mentioned that I didn't see anyone talk about was the impression most women have of men who post pics of their penis as part of their online profile. It is not a good impression, no matter how huge he is. A face with an engaging smile will gather a lot more attention. That is true for pics of both men and women.

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My wife's best experience was with a new partner who was actually a bit smaller than me. He really knew how to use it and was able to make her orgasm several times. Guys worry way to much about our dick size. Most women prefer average rather than real small or real big.

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Well this is coming from a wife of a couple who are in the Lifestyle. Yes, there are many women where size is most important, but I am not one of them. I have had some large cocks and some not so much, but for me it was more about how we all connected and got along. I do not care about size, what I DO care about is the person having respect, a good personality, and enjoying the moment. My husband I feel is above average in size and thickness which is perfect for me, so anyone too much larger than him I don't really have an interest in. I am not into huge cocks, but nice size ones.

 

I don't think you should let your size get to your head and worry you. Just be yourself and try and make sure everyone is having fun together. Personality will overcome more than you think. Don't overthink it or you will ruin it for yourself. Besides, anyone who will judge you based on the size of your cock, well are they really worth your time and getting upset over?

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The size of a woman's vagina (and for that matter, the size of a man's penis) has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with their height. In fact oddly enough that is recorded in law. During a supposed date rape case some years ago the prosecutor tried to make it sound exceptionally terrible because of the large disparity in height of the man and woman (him well over 6ft, her well under 5ft). His comments were thrown out with a reprimand from the judge when several expert medical witnesses were called to debunk that myth. Incidentally it didn't help her case either. The jury found that it was consensual (they had been dating and fucking for several weeks!) and she was just trying to get back at him after he broke up with her.

 

I would never take rape lightly, but if a woman cries rape falsely, the punishment should be the same as for a rapist.

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I just read through the responses others have given and I knew this was an older post or one like has been asked many times. 4-5 inches is in the normal range. Porn makes men think everyone else is way bigger. I never heard of a woman taking out a ruler to measure to make sure you are big enough.

I have never had a experience when I sad No Way he’s Too Small moment or been at a party where someone made a comment about a man being too small. To be fair I have been scared about a too large penis but you aren’t asking about that.

Just think of being on the smaller size as an advantage. During oral a full deep blow job is very possible and during sex most women will just enjoy and not think of your size.

To repeat what others stay, stop worrying and just enjoy.

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When i ask very experience women how small too small is, they always show me their little finger and tell a story about trying with a penis that size. Most women tell me girth is more important than length. There are of course some who prefer length, and/or extreme girth.

 

..and yes I met one who on the smallest provocation snatched up a sewing tape measure from her night stand and checked penile dimensions. It amused her to do so.

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Textbook average. Don’t sweat it.

 

If you are still sweating it, double down with oral, hands, and fingers....

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It’s not about the size of your hammer but rather how hard you can hit the nail. (Dad was a carpenter.)

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what if the reason your wife won't do it with you anymore and wants other dicks is because of your size and her lack of attraction to you?  I don't think I'll be able to participate.  I want her to be happy and fulfilled.  I already feel inadequate and humiliated, so I don't have any interest in being cucked.

 

Are there suggestions for basically a strap-on for a dude?  As long as I stay clothed and cover my face, I could help out.

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This question always makes me wonder.

 

We all know that a finger can produce hard squirting orgasms. I do not know anyone with 8-10 inch fingers coke can in diameter. 

 

If I did I would likely be seeking treatment for it.

 

At any rate dimensions are dimensions, finger or penis.  

 

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On 8/20/2019 at 1:34 PM, GMOFLEISURE said:

Most women tell me girth is more important than length.

A large girth can be good for vaginal sex, but long is uncomfortable.  Opposite in the bum - slender is better and length doesn't matter.

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21 hours ago, scaredtodeath said:

what if the reason your wife won't do it with you anymore and wants other dicks is because of your size and her lack of attraction to you?  I don't think I'll be able to participate.  I want her to be happy and fulfilled.  I already feel inadequate and humiliated, so I don't have any interest in being cucked.

 

Are there suggestions for basically a strap-on for a dude?  As long as I stay clothed and cover my face, I could help out.

Scared - there are plenty of hallow dildo's that are 6-7-8" long. They are designed for those with ED. Give it a shot.

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You have to get past the mental part. Men thing they're too small. Women think they're too fat, boobs are too small, etc. Be you. Be confident. The self criticism is a downer. When I meet a woman and she mentions her "big ass" or "flat chest"...I immediately look for the exit.  D-R-A-M-A.

 

Guys, here is a shock...there is someone who has a large dick than you. Yep. I know. SHOCKING! There are also guys who have bigger muscles, better abs, a better jaw line, make more money, whatever. Yeah, you're average. Get over it. You're in a situation where another man's wife is going to get naked and want to fuck. Open you're eyes...she's right there! Please her. Work on your oral skills. Work on your fingering skills. You lick her to orgasm, then gently finger her, tease the g-spot...make her cum again via the g-spot while her clit recovers. 

 

And ladies....yeah, your boobs are probably small, or large, or funny shaped, or something. Your butt...probably bigger than that woman's over there but smaller than that other woman. No one cares. You going to drop your clothes, get that guy wet with your mouth and then ride him for an hour?  You going to lick the other wife while your husband pounds you from behind? At the end of the night, is everyone going to be catching their breath, thinking 'that was freaking awesome'?  No one cares about your boobs or your butt. 

 

I'm not the most experienced guy. I've been around a little. The most memorable sexual experiences were not with the hottest women. It wasn't the thinnest or the one with the largest boobs. The most memorable are the ones where she had no hangups.

 

If you have a small dick, pick up other skills. The best pitcher isn't the one with the best fastball. The best pitcher has 3 pitches that he mixes well, keeping the hitters off balance. Bring your fingers, mouth and dick. Three pitches. Learn to mix them up, keep her off balance. When she heads back to the bench you want her smiling and thinking 'damn, that guy has some nasty stuff!'

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47 minutes ago, travelingprofessional said:

You have to get past the mental part. Men thing they're too small. Women think they're too fat, boobs are too small, etc. Be you. Be confident. The self criticism is a downer. When I meet a woman and she mentions her "big ass" or "flat chest"...I immediately look for the exit.  D-R-A-M-A.

 

Guys, here is a shock...there is someone who has a large dick than you. Yep. I know. SHOCKING! There are also guys who have bigger muscles, better abs, a better jaw line, make more money, whatever. Yeah, you're average. Get over it. You're in a situation where another man's wife is going to get naked and want to fuck. Open you're eyes...she's right there! Please her. Work on your oral skills. Work on your fingering skills. You lick her to orgasm, then gently finger her, tease the g-spot...make her cum again via the g-spot while her clit recovers. 

 

And ladies....yeah, your boobs are probably small, or large, or funny shaped, or something. Your butt...probably bigger than that woman's over there but smaller than that other woman. No one cares. You going to drop your clothes, get that guy wet with your mouth and then ride him for an hour?  You going to lick the other wife while your husband pounds you from behind? At the end of the night, is everyone going to be catching their breath, thinking 'that was freaking awesome'?  No one cares about your boobs or your butt. 

 

I'm not the most experienced guy. I've been around a little. The most memorable sexual experiences were not with the hottest women. It wasn't the thinnest or the one with the largest boobs. The most memorable are the ones where she had no hangups.

 

If you have a small dick, pick up other skills. The best pitcher isn't the one with the best fastball. The best pitcher has 3 pitches that he mixes well, keeping the hitters off balance. Bring your fingers, mouth and dick. Three pitches. Learn to mix them up, keep her off balance. When she heads back to the bench you want her smiling and thinking 'damn, that guy has some nasty stuff!'

 

Hold on...Are you trying to say I don't have the biggest cock and am not the best looking guy on the planet??  Man, I need to sit down.

 

You're right. It is human nature to be critical about yourself. I do it. I try not to but still do.  Some people have an easier time not being critical about themselves. Others have to work on it. I think people would be so much happier if they could learn to be themselves. Rather than focus on the few pounds extra pounds you have, work to stay healthy. Everyone gets wrinkles. Everyone gains a few pounds. You can work on those things if you want. Being self critical about something you can't change - size of your breasts, cock, butt, etc - is damaging to yourself and those around you. I used to wish I had cooler hair rather than the mess I was given. I used to wish I could grow that sexy 5-o'clock shadow I see on those absurdly skinny models in cologne ads.  I got over that stuff. I am what I am. Some ladies like it. Some don't. Ok. This is me. 

 

 

 

 

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On 3/3/2019 at 6:54 PM, New2ThisCouple said:

I’m only my wife’s third partner. The two prior than me were larger than myself. I’m 6.5” myself. She said she MUCH prefers my cock to theirs.

Had the same thing in reverse.  My high school girlfriend started screwing another guy who had a slender dick.  She complained about my very average dick thereafter as being too wide.

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