Do you know George

[Raymond57 15]

Has anyone been to one of their events?

[njbm 2,868]

We are 61 years old. We signed up for a dinner once and they told us that it was sold out. Then we were the first ones to sign up for another dinner with them on both SDC and SLS. We did not hear from them at all. I emailed them two weeks before the event. They claimed we did not sign up on their website. Based on discussions with other older swingers, it appears they want the beautiful people in their 30s and 40s.

 

We did speak to a couple that did go to one of their dinners. They said it was overpriced, the food was disappointing and none of the attendees connected, exchanged contact info or otherwise progressed.

 

If you are a single male, you’re not getting in. It’s for couples.

 

They should just say that they want young swingers. We meet older swingers who sign up and expect to go, but they are wasting their time. Someone should adopt their concept, have a less restrictive policy and hopefully make money.

 

They blocked me on SDC because I told them and SDC it was rude to let people sign up for their events and just not tell them they are not invited.

[Raymond57 15]

Thanks that’s helpful

[luv2was 117]

njbm said:

... They should just say that they want young swingers....

I agree.

 

For a lifestyle based on honesty and good communication, it seems like that organization does neither very well. Sounds like they would best be avoided.

 

BTW... I am 60 y/o. ... I am perfectly OK with not crashing in on a party intended for a younger set. (And vice-versa, unless they are really into that sort of thing... "Not that there's anything wrong with that." (Seinfeld)

 

?

 

"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."

-- Groucho Marx

 

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I had no idea what this was about, so:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Do+you+know+George

 

"I can't remember a life before Google, but fortunately, I can Google it."

 

This sounds a lot like another thread recently made here:

Friction Parties

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

We had a near identical experience as recounted by njbm: we were told that it was sold out and so on. They seem to have a preferred demographic that does not include the older long term marrieds. Hope it works for those who attend.

[GoldCoCouple 4,065]

Don't know George and haven't been able to find Waldo...

[MrandMrsA 76]

The Joneses of the "We Gotta Thing" podcast seem to have had good experiences. The multi day event seemed to be quite decadent. They even picked up their first single male.

 

Maybe it depends on expectations?

[Jane1902 476]

I applied for one of the dinners, included a photo and SLS info. I was accepted but then somehow they didn’t receive my picture and wanted another. My mail history showed clearly the photo had been sent. It didn’t feel right so I passed. What is notable is no one from this board has ever said they went and it was good. The couple in the podcast - did they pay for it or was it comped as publicity? Maybe it depends upon the source.

[njbm 2,868]

I recently received an email from this George group on SDC. They seemed to be promoting some web hosting site. It had nothing to do with swinging. I inquired about it with the SDC help desk. There is something fugazy about this group.

 

If they want the young and beautiful, fine. Just say so and don’t lead people on and waste their time.

[njbm 2,868]

MrandMrsA said:

The Joneses of the "We Gotta Thing" podcast seem to have had good experiences. The multi day event seemed to be quite decadent. They even picked up their first single male.

 

Maybe it depends on expectations?

 

I think it was fake news.

[MarniJohn 172]

Or perhaps the Joneses are George!

[GoldCoCouple 4,065]

George and Georgina Jones!

[njbm 2,868]

The swinger community is small. You cannot tick off a large number of people without repercussions. We asked to attend a house party recently. The hosts politely said that the party is for those who are 25-45. We would not be comfortable there anyway as we are quite a bit older. They were direct and frank and it's their party, they can invite whoever they like. But the George group lets you sign up and , for us, never said anything. We want to make other plans if not invited. Just weaselly behavior.

[MrandMrsA 76]

The couple in the podcast - did they pay for it or was it comped as publicity? Maybe it depends upon the source.

 

This is a valid point. They did not disclose any compensation received, but have disclosed when they received discounts on LS cruises they talk about. On the other hand, and to your point, If I were running such a business and knew I had a customer that could potentially tell thousands of potential new customers about my business - I would certainly give them extra special treatment.

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

Update: We just received an invitation to attend a dinner. Has anyone had recent experience with "The Group"?

[MrandMrsA 76]

They have rebranded as "Just For Dinner". No experience.

[njbm 2,868]

Perhaps they changed their name due to a bad rep. If you are over 50 years old or over 200 lbs., you are not getting invited. It is the Dinner with George group.

[Emt 91]

I don't know "George" but this sounds somewhat similar to a club in Philly that we "applied to" about 10-15 years back that I see is still around today. We never heard back and as we were looking to just get our feet wet in the LS back then, it was pretty crushing. I won't say that's the only reason we didn't jump back in until now but it still felt bad to experience.

[njbm 2,868]

I don't know "George" but this sounds somewhat similar to a club in Philly that we "applied to" about 10-15 years back that I see is still around today. We never heard back and as we were looking to just get our feet wet in the LS back then, it was pretty crushing. I won't say that's the only reason we didn't jump back in until now but it still felt bad to experience.

 

EMT, you sound like “up and comers” in the swinging world. Just prepare to get rejected all over the place for a good reason, a bad reason and no reason. Part of the territory. The people who say yes will more than make up for it.

[Emt 91]

EMT, you sound like “up and comers” in the swinging world. Just prepare to get rejected all over the place for a good reason, a bad reason and no reason. Part of the territory. The people who say yes will more than make up for it.

 

Our hope is that, somehow, we gravitate toward people we'll naturally match up with. But until we actually get out to a party no clue how that pecking order/hierarchy works. Thanks for the advice.

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

A curious update. We responded to the invitation and made a reservation. Gave our credit card and received the confirmation.

 

We wrote the hosts inquiring about the dress code. A day later we received the following note:

 

“Thank you for your note and continued interest.

 

Although I wrote to you at the beginning of the month that the dinner was full, I see now that you were able to remit payment, due to a software issue we are now working to correct.

 

I have refunded your payment, and sent you a confirmation email.”

 

Now of course we check our email regularly. There was no sign of any note that the dinner was full and there had been a “software glitch”. An email follows two minutes later indicating that they are refunding the payment. No credit has yet appeared on the credit card account.

 

Regarding the refund, we will be a little patient. These things can take a day or two to show up.

 

Regarding the “we wrote you earlier in the month” and “there was a software glitch”, there is no record of such a response anywhere. Not in spam. Not in trash. Nowhere.

 

Draw your own conclusions.

[lcmim 1,081]

From experience with another vender. Contest immediately and change your card number.

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

Giving credit where credit is due, figuratively and literally. The refund from the company managing finances for the "George" dinners appeared a few hours ago on our credit card statement.

[lcmim 1,081]

Fundamental Law said:

Giving credit where credit is due, figuratively and literally. The refund from the company managing finances for the "George" dinners appeared a few hours ago on our credit card statement.

 

I am glad to hear that. I think you already knew that sometimes I am quite the cynic.

[luv2was 117]

I still have not been to one of these events (and likely never will), but my curiosity has continued, and I recently heard an episode on the podcast "We Gotta Thing" (by: Mr & Mrs Jones): BONUS Episode 61: Do You Know George?

In this episode the Joneses interview "George" himself, and present him as a very down-to-earth kind of guy, which after hearing this episode, I would be inclined to agree with. (The entire episode is dedicated to DYKG.) This episode is a big "tell" about these events in general. They seem to be doing a good job catering to a fairly wide age spectrum, and adapting to the times and current trends.

 

That being said... The odds of getting an invitation to one of these soirees seems to range in the "very unlikely" category, unless you are very fashionable, and very well heeled. A high degree of intellectual (education & business) caliber seems necessary as well. While the Jones's imply that these events can be available to just about anyone (i.e. not just the filthy rich), I am guessing the cost to attend even a "Just for Dinner" event is more easily measured in the thousands of dollars (especially by the time you get the right attire, transportation, etc.).

 

"Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes, and not rather a new wearer of clothes."

- Henry David Thoreau

 

As for details on the cost, I can find none, anywhere... which leads me to believe that an old adage applies here: "If you have to ask, then you probably cannot afford it anyway." ... The closest I can come to (per couple?) is that "Just For Dinner" is near $10K, and weekends are $50K+. So if anyone can confirm or deny this, curious minds want to know.

 

At no point did Mr & Mrs Jones confirm (or deny) that they had been "comped" or gotten a discount for any part of the event fee.

 

My understanding for now is that the criteria for getting into one of these events is more "Social & Intellectual & Professional" than Financial & Age. (It is definitely NOT a "take your pants off" kind of thing.) However, I get the distinct impression that if you are not a "pretty" person, you likely will not be issued an invitation, which does indeed sound quite elitist. (Not that there's anything wrong with that. Let 'em have it.) I also suspect that as these events become more popular (the DYKG webs are pretty elaborate, and very "brand" focused), the prices and exclusivity will only get higher. (And it seems that these events sell-out quickly.) These events are more about "Quality, not Quantity", which I agree with wholeheartedly. ... What do you value more? Time?... or Money?

 

"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."

-- Groucho Marx

 

He literally describes the "standard" used for invitations with the term "Best of breed" ... "professionals with undergraduate degrees (at least), that are well read, well spoken, well traveled, philanthropic...." ... These events are "never open to the public", which has its plus points, for sure. The goal is to have everyone in the room be "interesting", not just a hit-or-miss type process. I totally get that, and say "bully for them". It must take a significant amount of time to "separate the wheat from the chaff" for the invitation list, and you PAY for that effort.

 

Also... FYI... the "Just For Dinner" events are effectively an extended part of the vetting process, to qualify for an invitation to an extended (weekend type) event. (So in most cases you will probably need to attend a "dinner" first, before you get invited to a weekend event.)

 

One thing that is mentioned more than once is that these events are NOT for those looking for "anonymous sex in a dark room with strangers". If you list on a profile that you have 20 years lifestyle experience with numerous visits to clubs and cruises, there is a strong possibility (though not "a lock") that you will not be accepted... so they tend to cater more to somewhat new (less hardcore?) LS folks. (Listening to E-61 will provide more clarity on this.) One comment from an organizer (in E-9) about the vetting process is that: "We've done this for a long time, and we just know." ... Personality gets you in more than just cash.

 

Again... With ALL That being said... If you do get in, you will likely have the experience of a lifetime. ... ?

 

A YouTube link below ("about") has a fairly good brief (text) introduction to the event style. The YouTube channel has a bunch of videos to watch (mostly around 2 minutes each).

 

Other podcasts at We Gotta Thing where these events are mentioned include:

Episode 9 - Their experience attending a DYKG "Just For Dinner" event. (About 24 minutes, in the opening bit.) Plus a side reference during the "snapshots" at the end (at about 59 minutes).

Episode 51 - They mention DYKG from (roughly) timestamp 18 to 28 minutes.

Episode 19 - They "recap" their experience attending a DYKG weekend event. (Starts around timestamp 38 minutes, for the "entire (middle) segment", through 1:20+.)

 

 

Various Links...

https://justfordinner.com/

http://the-group.co/

https://www.facebook.com/DoYouKnowGeorge/

... "Hosting upscale lifestyle events for select couples and single women."

https://www.youtube.com/user/doyouknowgeo/about

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC94mtlYedy0W1_85SdWhBKA - (Channel)

Including:

(Most of the others appear to be visual promotions, which illustrates the locations, otherwise not a lot of information.)

...

https://www.google.com/search?q=Do+You+Know+George

[Jane1902 476]

For some reason I am reminded of the Fyre Festival. It is so exclusive no one has written about their experience here.

[MrandMrsA 76]

Thought I would circle back around to this one. Through a trusted, but indirect source, someone that endorses this event publicly refers to George as an "asshole." And, claims that the filtering is largely done based on income/wealth.

$600/couple for dinner only

$1200 dinner and a room

$1900 dinner and a suite.

[njbm 2,868]

This group appears to be a scam. Glad we didn’t waste our time and money.