Double standard

[Napoleon 230]

A few users on this site stated that single men bring nothing of equal value for a couple. Can the same be said that non-HWP wives bring nothing of equal value for physically fit attractive charming single men who can easily get young childless attractive HWP single women?

[padoc 1,703]

If you can "easily get young childless attractive HWP single women" than why don't you just go do it and leave other people's wives alone? Im sure that a guy who's a "male with three women in a relationship with me" has enough on his plate. Clearly, you're just one of those single males who "brings nothing to a couple" but your penis.

[adamgunn 1,460]

Napoleon, you're a troll. I say that for all the other people who are going to read this.

 

We like what we do. We have a lot of fun, and I see no reason to justify it to the likes of you.

[Napoleon 230]

@adamgunn

 

I'm not a troll. If users/couples can yap at the mouth about single men, single men should also be able to yap at the mouth about couples.

[Napoleon 230]

@Padoc

 

"Only bring a penis?"

 

Well, all the vast majority of women bring is only a vagina.

[Jane1902 476]

Napoleon body shaming is not cool. You come across as arrogant, certainly not charming. Were you perhaps denied entry to the clubs for HWP? Charming is usually an unspoken requirement and you may not have passed.

[Napoleon 230]

@Jane

 

Single men-shaming is not cool either.

 

And I'm not attracted to non-HWP women but I guess according to YOU and many other swingers that means I'm body shaming women. Many women are not attracted to short men, are they body shaming short men because they're not attracted to short men just like I'm not attracted to non-HWP women? How "charming" does that make women? And I'm over 6 feet tall by the way.

 

And no I was never denied entry into any entry into HWP clubs or any other clubs for that matter.

[padoc 1,703]

I call SNOWFLAKE!!

[Napoleon 230]

[Twilighttap 168]

Looking at just some of the threads about single men and the LS, the happy successful men who blend vs what appear to be the angry involuntary male celibates looking for ‘easy’ sex seems clear.

[Alura 2,774]

Swinging was once called "wife swapping." My late wife and I called it "spouse" swapping (or sharing). If a person didn't have a "spouse" to share, they were in the wrong place.

 

To us, a single person in the lifestyle is much like a fellow who takes a bus to an event sponsored by the Porsche club. He has no Porsche but is quick to assure us his exceptional skills as a driver would enable him to make our cars perform in a way never previously known.

 

If a man wants to swing, he should get married. Only then could he understand the emotions we deal with when our wives are in an intimate embrace with another man.

 

Yeah, alright, his wife is in our arms which is the key to swinging.

[M1F2KTJ 473]

A few users on this site stated that single men bring nothing of equal value for a couple. Can the same be said that non-HWP wives bring nothing of equal value for physically fit attractive charming single men who can easily get young childless attractive HWP single women?

 

You need to read more posts But I know what you mean. You've reacted to posts you felt were unfair. I agree with you.

 

I understand that the definition of swinging might be interpreted by most people as couples with other couples. Swapping mates.

 

Is MMF swinging? FFM? It's a never ending topic here.

 

I think that when someone says that single men don't bring equal value to a couple I think they are trying to convey that you are not involving a female for the male of the couple.

 

My/our opinion is that swinging is a shared experience. It means as much for the husband to give his wife an experience as it is for the wife to give her husband an experience.

[Alura 2,774]

People who engage in mate-swapping can do threesomes. We just took turns.

 

Singles are not necessary in the lifestyle. If a couple decides to accommodate you, be grateful. Don't fault them because they don't think you're as wonderful as you do.

[lcmim 1,083]

You need to read more posts But I know what you mean. You've reacted to posts you felt were unfair. I agree with you.

 

I understand that the definition of swinging might be interpreted by most people as couples with other couples. Swapping mates.

 

Is MMF swinging? FFM? It's a never ending topic here."

 

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My personal take is that, in order for it to be "swinging" at least one couple is required. Otherwise I would call it just good old fashioned hooking up.

 

There are intracouple things at work in swinging that are just not available to singles.

[Jane1902 476]

What about 3 singles in a MFM? Maybe I’m splitting hairs, but that’s my experience. I love it.

[GMOFLEISURE 221]

Looking at just some of the threads about single men and the LS, the happy successful men who blend vs what appear to be the angry involuntary male celibates looking for ‘easy’ sex seems clear.

 

Even if they are not Involuntary Celibates these guys become unsatisfying and annoying fairly quickly. Often before the first encounter ends. I've been on both side of the Single Male equation & try to critique my own behavior when a SM in my experience as a Male Partner.

[GMOFLEISURE 221]

What about 3 singles in a MFM? Maybe I’m splitting hairs, but that’s my experience. I love it.

 

 

Had that experience a few times. There is a different & interesting dynamic when the woman is not attached to either male. But heres a question have any of these MFM encounters been with bi sexual males. That is true three way sex?

[GMOFLEISURE 221]

Swinging was once called "wife swapping." My late wife and I called it "spouse" swapping (or sharing). If a person didn't have a "spouse" to share, they were in the wrong place.

 

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I've met a lot of people who used that definition of "swinging" exclusively. I am old enough to remember the 1960s & early 70s usage as defining anyone engaging in NSA sex as a 'Swinger'. Be its singles who had serial partners, couples swapping, or singles and couples in groups of various combinations. I left the LS of a extended period after the early 1980s (drug use by others was one reason) But in retrospect the there swinger was becoming restrictive by then to couples swapping.

 

I was never married, but had a series of girl friends who were partners in threesomes, couples swaps, and group or orgy sex. Currently have a FWB whom I meet a few times a month for LS activity. We also meet others separately & enjoy chatting about our experiences.