Women Topless

[GMOFLEISURE 221]

All my life I've run across women who talked about or acted out on not wearing clothing above the waist, leaving their breasts free as it were. It was rare in my experience, but there were some. In the past few years I've run across a lot more who are making it a point to go around sans shirt or halter when they can get away with it. Often in a recreational setting, boating or hiking, away from the crowded sites. Yard work, painting the house, house work are another.

 

I'm wondering if this is a actual trend, or something thats been happening all along & the ladies are just talking about it more? Any options, experiences, data, or anything else to share on this?

[cplnuswing 4,712]

Interesting question. I don't know that I've particularly noticed a difference. But, I think society has loosened up just a tiny bit on that, so maybe there have been changes?

[Guest]

Seems to be a lot more bralessness here in the Midwest this summer. It’s kind of nice, I’ve done so for years and the more that do, the less conspicuous I am, at least, the less so I feel. In terms of topless, I would love to be able to go topless at local beaches or pools as we do in Europe but I don’t see that happening unless the matter gets reviewed by the Supreme Court (currently there is case headed there.) In the house, I find myself going topless more, the husband likes it, some of our neighbors and yard people who get a peep through the door or windows seem to as well.

[adamgunn 1,460]

Chico, would you please post more about the case that you feel is heading to the Supreme Court re: going topless?

[Fundamental Law 2,882]

The topless/nudity issues are cultural. Culture changes. Casual toplessness and nudity seem to be somewhat more prevalent in the US than a decade ago, and tolerated on an event-specific basis (e.g. "world naked bike ride"). We make no attempt to conceal the house rule that our hot tub is nude only. Nude beaches are fairly full. Our local nude resort, Paradise Valley Club, has a strong working relationship with the town it lies in (Dawsonville, GA), a town that is as conservative as any other part of the red state deep south.

 

Sensitivities might be more important than legalities. Topless at the supermarket is unlikely to work. On the other hand at a neighbor's pool or private club or even at a relatively uninhabited beach, a simple "Would you mind if I removed my top?" to those close by is fairly likely to met by a shrug and "whatever".

[couplers 4,577]

... women wore only band aids or tassels covering their nipples.

If I have to cover my nipples, I don't consider it topless. I consider it stupid.

[GoldCoCouple 4,063]

This is something that I used to joke about (please understand that this was said in a joking, sarcastic manor):

 

If women truly wanted to be considered equal with men, they would be demanding to be able to go topless anywhere a man was allowed to go topless.

 

There are supposed to be 36 states where it isn't against the law for women to go topless (but just because there isn't a law AGAINST it, doesn't mean it's legal). California is one of those states, yet they have closed most (if not all) of the topless and/or nude beaches in the state. Even Nevada has started cracking down on Secret Cove on Lake Tahoe (much to our sadness). Just because the law doesn't exist, you can still be arrested for 'public lewdness, indecent exposure or disorderly conduct'.

 

This year, Go Topless Day is Sunday Aug. 25, one day before Women's Equality Day. We encourage all women to fight for their rights to go topless wherever men are allowed to go topless. Stand up for your rights!

[Toonytr 18]

We are nudist family with kids. I was born in nudist family. Wife became we marry. İ saw all my family naked and bobs. Mom aunt sister family friends and their kids. Only we are swingers. One aunt had a gf. Live together with ankle. Sex do when naked but no naked one is for sex.

[cplnuswing 4,712]

I believe that was the point Toonytr was making, that in the household he lived in and described, nudity did not equal sex. Yes, when you had sex you were nude since to not be is possible but sort of a pain in the butt, but that sex was sex and nudity was nudity and the later doesn't automatically mean the former. Consistent with what a "true" (i.e. nonswinging) nudist here would say I believe.

 

And yeah, I think the topless with nipples covered thing is kinda asinine, but then prude laws and beliefs usually are. But, progress...I guess

[Toonytr 18]

LGBT and toples showing in public pleace is again the law. Swinging is not alowed. There is no swingers or nudist resorts but can be toples on beach and naked some beaches .we go mostly Greece Croatia or other country where have nice family resorts safe for kids.have nice back yard not seen from outside.we are mostly nudy there.swingers is not easy to be here.society is not looking good.LGBT IS same .we are soft swinger. Swap only with close friends. Or select ones. This is not fair.if you wear 8 inch swimsuit you are good girl if you take it off bad girl.I met couple from turkey arabic iranian in nudist pleaces.I saw much many topples in turkey beaches.saw much many nudist from muslim countries in European countries.mentality is that if you wear swimsuit you are good if no you are reprobate.it is same for GBLT swingers too .for good sex not need big penis or nice boobs or vajina. Need good intelligence and brain.

according to what my wife says ....no topples beach like a flowerless forest.good sex -good life. I was born unwillingly and will die unwillingly. Let me life what I want. This is mythought.think I am not in wrong way.

[Guest]

Chico, would you please post more about the case that you feel is heading to the Supreme Court re: going topless?

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/women-ask-supreme-court-toss-topless-ban-asking-why-different-n1044161

[adamgunn 1,460]

Thanks, Chico. The Seventh Circuit has already ruled on a similar case. And the Supreme Court ruled in 1991 that public nudity laws are allowed. (Barnes v. Glen Theatre) I doubt this case is going anywhere.

 

~~~~~~~ From the Ruling of the New Hampshire Supreme Court ~~~~~~~~

 

Indeed, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals recently held that a public

nudity ordinance that defines nudity differently for men and women classifies

on the basis of gender. Tagami v. City of Chicago, 875 F.3d 375, 379-80 (7th

Cir. 2017), cert. denied, 138 S. Ct. 1577 (2018). In Tagami, a woman who had

been found guilty of violating a public-nudity ordinance that criminalized

public display of “the breast at or below the upper edge of the areola thereof of

any female person” if “not covered by an opaque covering,” sued the City

alleging that the ordinance discriminates on the basis of sex in violation of the

Federal Constitution. Id. at 377 (quotation omitted). The City asserted that

the ordinance did not classify on the basis of sex because it “treats men and

women alike by equally prohibiting the public exposure of the male and female

body parts that are conventionally considered to be intimate, erogenous, and

private.” Id. at 379-80. The City contended that “the list of intimate body

parts is longer for women than men, but that’s wholly attributable to the basic

physiological differences between the sexes.” Id. at 380. The Seventh Circuit

summarily dismissed the City’s contention, stating that the City’s argument

was “a justification for this classification rather than an argument that no sex-

based classification is at work here at all.” Id. The court concluded that, “[o]n

its face, the ordinance plainly does impose different rules for women and men,”

and then proceeded to analyze the ordinance under the heightened scrutiny

required by the Federal Constitution for gender-based classifications. Id.