Friends coming over

[Mike6216 34]

So, me and my wife have only swung once. It was a couple of months back with some longtime friends (See "Embarassed Newbie" in first swinging experiences). Well, this couple will be coming up to our town Saturday night. It will be the first time we have hung out since the encounter. They have already asked to sleep at our place and offered to bring the tequila, which is what fueled the last encounter, but also what I believe killed my erection. Nothing has been discussed as far as sex. As far as I know, it could just be a normal night with friends, but I desperately need to get my redemption from the last time. Any advice? Should I try to lead things in that direction, or just let things play out? Also, how can I limit my alcohol intake to avoid the problem I had last time without being seen as a party pooper?

On a side note: I have recently acquired some viagra for the sole purpose of being prepared if this situation ever presented itself again. I have tried it while sober and it definitely lived up to the hype, but will this work if I have been drinking?

[RockNCpl 71]

Alcohol,  if consumed in large quantities, will effect the viagra. Was told this by this forum and I conducted a thorough experiment in all scenarios. Doesnt mean you can't drink. You want to be level minded anyways. 

 

Drink at your own pace. I stopped caring about being a party pooper after high school. Again, level minded. 

 

As far as the possible topic at hand...it has already happened. You say it was influenced by the tequila and they offered to bring it. I would take that as they are thinking along the same lines as you. If after awhile if it hasnt been brought up, juat ask them "Anything you guys have on your mind for the night? " Open question that can go any direction... including the bedroom. 

 

I will also tell you to take this with a grain of salt. My wife and I are newbies in the LS as well, but, we have played a few times. 

 

Good luck, let us know how it goes!

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

Experienced folks in the LS tend to drink very lightly, if at all. If they want to drink, fine; but you should never be compelled. We have a couple of drink-but-not-drink strategies. One is a quality non-alcoholic beer. Heineken and Beck's make especially good ones. We also like "white wine spritzers", which is your favorite carbonated water, on ice, with a splash of whatever dry white wine you have around. Lemon or lime to taste. 

 

Both strategies will tend to keep you hydrated, which we think is important. 

 

 

[Guest]

 

 

Yes they probably want to fuck again, if it was me I'd not drink any alcohol, or at least would only drink a small amount.

 

Honestly on more than one occasion people have offered me drinks and I have accepted to be polite, and when they are not looking I just tip them into plant pot / pour them down a sink / pour them into the toilet / throw them on the garden.

 

“Just popping out for a smoke / to make a call / to get some fresh air” and bang drink goes on the garden.

 

That perhaps sounds like a waste but I have encountered plenty of situations where the other people WANT you to drink / feel strange if you don't drink / can't understand why you don't want to drink.

 

I mean when your mate offers you a shot take a sip and then just chuck the rest when no one is looking. This way you can appear to be taking part in the drunk party but still remain soberish.

 

I did read your first post a while back and can't truly remember what happened. If I recall your wife says she wasn't keen on that couple / didn't really want to play with them again.

 

However regarding the drink situation, NEVER be scared to ditch a drink. If I haver just met someone, if I am unsure about someone in any respect then I don't want a drink unless I'm the one making it / opening it ECT.

 

I guess this sounds rather insane / paranoid but several of the worst serial killers alive have lured people into their homes and then drugged them using cup of tea or coffee laced with drugs, by all accounts women still get drug raped all the time.

 

There was a case in the UK a while back. Basically a taxi driver was driving around the UK and every night he would buy a bottle of posh champagne. He would wait until a sexy young women got into his taxi and then tell them he had just won some money / just won a big pay out and was celebrating and asked if they wanted a drink of his posh champaign which he had laced to hell with some kind of drug, and sure enough the girls ended up raped and dumped in some bushes.

 

Not saying your friend is trying to drug you. I am just saying if meeting strangers I am very careful about what I drink. I either want to purchase the drink myself / make the drink myself / or freshly open the drink myself.

 

Just to clarify here I have used Viagra many times before and sadly if you drink to much it will not only effect the Viagra but will still get you drunk / still get you tired / still cause potential issues.

 

In my younger / clubbing years I'd sometimes go out with my girlfriend to a nightclub and would party away like normal, however if I knew I'd be taking my girlfriend home with another girl / another man then sure about 70% of my drink would just get dumped and I'd stay sober. You know people would look at me and I'd always have a beet in my hand / always be sipping away and taking the occasional tiny gulp, then when people wasn't looking I'd just pour most of it away as after all it was just cheap bubbly larger in some dirty nightclub.

 

Sure by the time we got home anyone would think I'd had 6 or 7 large drinks, really I'd had maybe 2 and then spent all evening fully smashing both girls all over the bedroom.

 

You also have to be careful with Viagra and drinking, why?

 

Because on various occasions I have taken a Viagra pill, rid home from some nightclub with two girls rubbing my dick on the taxi ride home, and sure I have got home and fucked them both, and then not long after they have fallen to sleep drunk. You know I have two fun, naked women laid in my bed and shoot my load, sure give me 20 minutes to catch my breath and stretch a little and I'm ready to go again, which is no use with several people fast asleep drunk.

 

This can be a challenging situation. Lets say for example your friends come to meet you at 18:00 in the evening, that for a few hours you have a drink / talk / laugh / maybe around 20:00 you have a bit to eat and a few more drinks. Then at say 22:00 you decide to have your sex session so you take your Viagra pill at 22:00 and by 22:30 your hard dick is smashing into this other women, in fact by 23:30 you have cum, you feel great, yet by 12:00 at night one of your friends is asleep drunk, your partner is yawning, and your now awake for the next few hours with an erection.

 

You know your friends wake up a little hung over but are happy cooking breakfast and your kind of sat there tired with a dick that will get hard in a strong breeze.

 

If your friends do come round / if you and your wife decide to go ahead / then my honest advice is try to do it early before people have drunk to much. Before it gets to late.

 

I remember during one of my three way relationship with women, the one which lasted about two years we basically made a lot of funny sexual rules together, for example both the women was dating me together, both in a committed relationship with me and after a while we kind of formed a routine. I'd come home from walk to find them both waiting for me, I'd take a Viagra pill in private and then would go to the shower, I'd spend about 20 minutes having a shower and I'd come down stairs and would usually find two naked girls on my sofa.

 

I had explained that I am at work all day thinking about them both and when I get home I'm really horny, so every evening I'd get home from work, have a shower, fuck them both on my sofa using the Viagra effect, then we would eat / watch a film / chat / cuddle up and basically by the time I'd done eating or cuddling up with a film it was time to take them to bed for the main evening event.

 

That BANG I started straight away, this way I can have 2,3,4 threesomes using the Viagra and not just one drunk threesome at 1am before everyone falls asleep.

 

The other great thing you can do here is actually feed people coffee / energy drinks. You know if someone wants a Vodka, then cool make is Vodka and Red Bull. Someone wants a hot drink offer them a coffee / sugary tea / something with caffeine.

 

I guess this sounds kind of bad, but basically when I was dating two young women together we would sometimes arrive home late / drunk and within 30 seconds of walking in the door both of the girls would have a strong sugary coffee in front of them. I'd walk in the door and before the girls had even taken off their coats I'd flicked the kettle on quickly.

 

I'd generally add a little more coffee than usual, and a little more sugar. Not over board but if they asked for 1 sugar I'd dump in 1.5 spoons instead. If I usually used 1 spoon of coffee I might use 1.2 spoon of coffee instead and just make it that bit stronger.

 

The same also applies in a club. My ex girlfriend was notorious for this, but basically we would get into a nightclub and she would drink way to much, way to quickly. For example my girlfriend asks for a double Vodka and coke but hey its a busy night club I thought she said a single vodka and Red Bull.

 

In your situation I'd take the initiative, I'd message this couple now and basically tell them the last time you met you all ended up having sex / playing around, and just been honest you would like it to happen again and want them two to consider it. This way they arrive at your place with a set yes or no, that they arrive prepared for sex / prepared to talk quicker before been drunk / and this also may effect how much they drink, they may want to drink slightly more, quicker for nerves, or may wish to stay more sober.

 

If you do not feel like messaging this couple and speaking about it before hand then again I'd take the initiative and shortly after they arrive, after 1 or 2 drinks I'd basically announce that I was happy playing with them last time and I'd like it to happen again tonight, I'd say this before people was drunk, before you get drunk, this way there is more chance of things starting earlier and you getting more than one chance at redemption and not sitting there with a Viagra erection whilst other drunk people sleep.

 

Remember also if your taking Viagra I'd personally not eat anything for 3 hours before taking the pill, or within 60 minutes after taking the pill. Viagra does NOT work well with a full tummy of food. To give you an example here I'd say eat a big meal about 16:00 then take your pill at maybe 20:00 and that should be okay, by 20:45 you will be ready to go.

 

Just don't eat for at least 3 hours before or 1 hour after taking it or else you will ruin the effect. Also do not drink think drinks such as milk / milkshakes / smoothies / yogurt drinks or this again will ruin the effect.

 

In your situation this will be difficult because you need to know WHEN you are having sex? You can't all jump in bed and then you take a Viagra pill and you have an erection 10 seconds later. You need to wait at least 30 minutes, so you kind of need to take it slightly before your going to have sex.

 

In years past if I have arrived home and just taken a pill then its fairly easy to make excuses, anyone want a quick drink? I better just brush my teeth again. I better just have a quick shower. Just need to check my email to see if work has contacted me. Just need to walk the dog quickly. Better just run to the shop for some milk first. You know its easy to delay for 10 or 15 minutes by which time you get in bed and after 10 minutes foreplay your dick will be rock hard and ready to go.

 

In your case what you need to AVOID is your friends nervously sitting there until 2am until people are so drunk they can hardly keep their eyes open and then someone suggesting sex again. Ideally you need your friends to arrive at say 18:00 and by 19:30 / 20:00 I'd want them to know sex was on the card / sex was an option / I'd ask them.

 

“Guys this is a really strange and probably embarrassing subject but last time we were together we got drunk and played around. I'd like that to happen again, I'd like to us to try that again now, what do people think? You know try it again now before the night gets to late, before we get to drunk. If people don't want to I'd understand but I'd like to if other people want to as well?”

 

Like stated the thing you really need to avoid, and the thing that will probably happen is you all sat there nervously and not daring to mention it until its to late and your to drunk to get any real use out of the Viagra. Fuck that, get them in bed good an earlier before your drunk and then smash both ladies pussies all over with your big hard cock, then get them drinks and by the time they have drunk that go at them again, and by the time people are yawning you will have cum 2,3,4 times which is going to help ease any Viagra erections.

 

Do NOT take the Viagra pill the moment your friends arrive and sit there like an idiot for 4 hours with an erection, wait until you have been told YES its happening then take the pill.

 

[padoc 1,703]

Mike, it is likely that your friends are looking for a rematch. The tequila is your sign. As I suggested on an earlier thread, you may want to consider separate room play. Sometimes, especially with inexperienced couples,  swinging provokes a sensual overload. I'll bet your erection has seldom if ever failed you in a 1 on 1 situation.

 

I would take it easy on the booze, not saying don't drink but a wise man tends not to make the same mistake twice. If you plan on using the viagra, take it on an empty stomach, not right after a meal and take it an hour or so before playtime.

[SteelRidge 19]

The choice is simple, do you want to drink or fuck?

[NC_Seniors 518]

24 minutes ago, SteelRidge said:

The choice is simple, do you want to drink or fuck?

He can do both ... IF he does ‘em in the correct order!   ;-D

[adamgunn 1,460]

Like the rest, I'd be surprised if the night didn't end in a swap. 

 

To test that theory, at some point early in their visit, put your hand on the other wife's back, tell her she's looking good. If she smiles back, the game is on. If she jumps your bones right then and there, it's an even bigger clue . . . 

[padoc 1,703]

And whatever you do, come back on Sunday and tell us the rest of the story!!

[Mike6216 34]

Will do! Hopefully everything well. I have been horny ever since they told me they were coming. My wife has been on her period all week as well, so my excitement has built up to a boiling point

[Mike6216 34]

7 minutes ago, padoc said:

And whatever you do, come back on Sunday and tell us the rest of the story!!

Will do! Hopefully everything well. I have been horny ever since they told me they were coming. My wife has been on her period all week as well, so my excitement has built up to a boiling point

[SteelRidge 19]

21 hours ago, NC_Seniors said:

He can do both ... IF he does ‘em in the correct order!   ;-D

Snort, that's true.

 

Hey, do you have a "first experience" story.

 

Also we found a website called Sexual Evolution that hosts a Play Party in our town. They say it isn't a swingers meeting but it sure sounds like it. Not sure how often they have it but it could be the introduction we need.

 

 

[Mike6216 34]

35 minutes ago, SteelRidge said:

Snort, that's true.

 

Hey, do you have a "first experience" story.

 

Also we found a website called Sexual Evolution that hosts a Play Party in our town. They say it isn't a swingers meeting but it sure sounds like it. Not sure how often they have it but it could be the introduction we need.

 

 

I do. Its "embarrassed newbie". Its in the first experience forum

[SteelRidge 19]

10 minutes ago, Mike6216 said:

I do. Its "embarrassed newbie". Its in the first experience forum

Sorry, I was more talking to NC_Seniors.

 

But I did read your story before. I have a bit of a fear of going limp is we ever did swing.

[bbarnsworth 2,637]

On 3/5/2020 at 6:06 PM, Sun&Moon said:

 

 

If I haver

 

 

"And I would walk 500 miles, and I would walk 500 more..."

Sorry, couldn't resist I know it's a typo. If you don't get the reference, it's and old song by the Pretenders.

[two4youinswva 3,068]

1 hour ago, bbarnsworth said:

 

"And I would walk 500 miles, and I would walk 500 more..."

Sorry, couldn't resist I know it's a typo. If you don't get the reference, it's and old song by the Pretenders.

 

*Proclaimers 

 

[SteelRidge 19]

Well tonight is the night. Here's to a rock hard dong.

[cplnuswing 4,713]

1 hour ago, SteelRidge said:

Well tonight is the night. Here's to a rock hard dong.

 

[cplnuswing 4,713]

2 hours ago, two4youinswva said:

*Proclaimers 

Gotta admit, I'm impressed!  Thought my 80's new wave knowledge was pretty good, but didn't know that one.

 

Sort of a threadjack, but, since Pretenders were mentioned, and given the topic here, think this one may be appropriate.

 

He's got his chest on my back across a new Cadillac,

oh yeah, feels good,

it's alright

it's just the night in my veins 

 

Love that lyric

 

 

[bbarnsworth 2,637]

3 hours ago, two4youinswva said:

 

*Proclaimers 

 

Oh bother. Yes, you're right .Starting typing "P" and my fingers wrote something I didn't intend :)

 

[NC_Seniors 518]

On 3/6/2020 at 7:01 PM, SteelRidge said:

Hey, do you have a "first experience" story.

SteelRidge -- We do ... but maybe we'll share it with you if we ever see you at YKW!   ;-D

[Mike6216 34]

Just to update everyone, it was another failure. I controlled my alcohol intake and was ready to go this time around, but the wife did not. 5 minutes into a soft swap and she excused her self to the restroom. I checked on her when she did not return for a few minutes and I found her hunkered over the toilet throwing up. Needless to say, i helped her to bed and our night was finished.

Some good did come from the night though. We found out that we wern't just a one and done for them, as they brought up the possibility of visiting a club together, which none of us have ever experienced. So, the future does look bright. Even the wife seems to be 100% on board now, as the next day after the alcohol had worn off and she was sober, she said "well, we have until April to make sure we work the kinks out." April being the next scheduled night with this couple.

[adamgunn 1,460]

You seem to already have the kinks worked out. Simply don't drink too much. It's really a choice - would you rather get drunk or laid?

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[bbarnsworth 2,637]

Concur with adamgunn.

 

Question though; does your wife feel so worked up that she has to drink alcohol to move forward? If so, there's a problem there...

[padoc 1,703]

Mike…third time should be a charm.  Im guessing that there was foreplay between you and the other wife and that it was going well for you?

 

Proclaimers??? who doesn't like the Proclaimer??.  I have a Proclaimers station on my Pandora.   

[SteelRidge 19]

Sorry to hear that. No more tequila!

[Mike6216 34]

4 hours ago, bbarnsworth said:

Concur with adamgunn.

 

Question though; does your wife feel so worked up that she has to drink alcohol to move forward? If so, there's a problem there...

No. My wife is just a social drinker, it's very rare that she drinks at all. It's the other couple that loves the alcohol lol. They can drink as much as they want and not be effected. She just simply overdid it. We've all been there.

[Mike6216 34]

3 hours ago, padoc said:

Mike…third time should be a charm.  Im guessing that there was foreplay between you and the other wife and that it was going well for you?

 

Proclaimers??? who doesn't like the Proclaimer??.  I have a Proclaimers station on my Pandora.   

Yes. It was going great and my dick was definitely ready to go this time around. But when the wife got sick, I shut it down. I feel we are too new to the game to fuck another woman without my wife's approval. I believe she would have been ok with it because she knew what was happening beforehand, but I've got too much respect for her to do that.

[padoc 1,703]

That was a good decision. In that moment, you clearly illustrated to your wife that your marriage and her feelings are paramount. That kind of thing is swingers gold!!!