Numex 2,416 Posted March 31, 2020 Not looking for advice or anything, but if anyone cares to comment, including criticism that this wasn't a good idea, feel free to do so. (Warning: nothing really happens.) Our background is that my wife and I started in the lifestyle by talking about the sex that we had with our exes, what and who we liked. It turned us both on and didn't bother either of us when the other spoke of good sex we had in the past. My wife had more partners than me, although as she pointed out, because I was previously married I had much more and frequent sex (with my ex-wife) than she did. Although we now only play within a closed group of married couples, we started with her getting together (separately) for dinner, then at later times, sex with two of her old boyfriends. They already knew that I (her husband) already knew about their getting together, and she subsequently insisted that they meet me and later have MFMs with us. OK, so, last fall my wife encountered another one of her ex-lovers, Tim, in a professional setting near our city. She told me about seeing him and exchanging short hellos. We had previously talked about their relationship, and I suggested that if possible, she should invite him to dinner to catch up and meet me, her husband. It sounded good to her, so she did, he accepted, and we got together at a nice place. Most of Daniela's lovers were a little older than her, but Tim is a couple of years younger; a fit, good looking guy, I could understand the attraction. He seemed a bit cautious and reserved at the introduction, which I could understand meeting an ex-lover's, fuck buddy's, or whatever's husband. The situation between them was that although Daniela was single at the time, Tim was and is married. (The one thing that I made my wife agree to when we started all this with those two exes, was going forward no more married men, which in her past, she preferred.) In our prior long discussions of her ex-sexual partners, she said that Tim was not the most adventuresome or best in bed, but treated her well. The thing that kept her interested, however, was his eventual willingness to talk about his wife, not in a complaining way, but in a positive manner. You see, one of the attractions Daniela has to married men is that they already have a wife and she was the "piece on the side." She said that before she had sex with one of them, she would literally be sniffing around for the wife's scent. Most men didn't like to talk about the wife they are cheating on, but Tim did and said it made not only the sex life with his wife better for both of them, but also improved their relationship in general. Daniela had met Jessica several times, liked her, and she and Tim were both in her fan club. It wasn't our intention in asking him to dinner to put Tim on the spot or embarrass him, and definitely not there to arrange any hook up. But as he became more comfortable, Daniela brought up places that they had gone (she sometimes accompanied him on business trips when he went to nice places) and things they did. When she mentioned that the San Diego trip was fun, I said, "You told me that the view of the bay was nice," knowing that was what she said was her most memorable sex with him - they had fucked like mad and then she sat on the balcony naked watching the sun set while he ate her to another orgasm. There was never any discussion of sex per se, but I think at that point he knew that I knew just about everything and the conversation became more comfortable. I then asked about his wife, her career and her marathon races, and he spoke about her with some pride. We parted, went home and after putting our daughter to bed, Daniela and I fucked like crazy. About a week later Tim called Daniela, thanked her for the dinner, pleasure of meeting me, and made an aside that, as it was before, being with her had had a positive effect on the relationship he and his wife have. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,416 Posted March 31, 2020 Two added points, obviously our "no married men" rule only applies to married men who are cheating and whose wife doesn't know. Second, it's my belief that my wife's experience with married men in her past made it easy for her to let me join her in the lifestyle and play with other women, since she believes that married men don't leave their wife for the piece on the side. Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,416 Posted March 31, 2020 Also, it's my theory that Daniela's interest in traces of the guys' wives still on him was an early expression of the lesbian side of her sexuality. Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,641 Posted April 3, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 10:38 AM, Numex said: There was never any discussion of sex per se, but I think at that point he knew that I knew just about everything and the conversation became more comfortable. I then asked about his wife, her career and her marathon races, and he spoke about her with some pride. We parted, went home and after putting our daughter to bed, Daniela and I fucked like crazy. I used to ask, and Hubby, Red, Clair, and Lora used to tell me about their past lovers/sex partners. Like most spouses/lovers, this was a topic for discussion some time ago when I was new with him/her. It was to varying degrees amusing, tender, jealousy provoking, but always sexually exciting. Yeah, for me jealousy is a turn on. In your case it seems like no harm done with the dinner meet up at least. On 3/31/2020 at 12:31 PM, Numex said: Also, it's my theory that Daniela's interest in traces of the guys' wives still on him was an early expression of the lesbian side of her sexuality. Also for me back when I set up several of my friends/acquaintances with hubby and he had sex with them. Quote Share this post Link to post
adamgunn 1,460 Posted April 3, 2020 Very interesting story, Numex. One question I have is did (does) Tim and his wife have an open marriage? By that, I mean did Tim's wife know he was seeing Daniela? Did Tim's wife have her own 'pieces on the side?' Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,416 Posted April 3, 2020 The answer to all those questions is No, Tim was cheating on his wife, although it's always possible he could have been lying to Daniela and it was some sort of game Tim and his wife played, or his wife was cheating on him as well and he didn't know it. Daniela liked being the "other woman" to married men. She's had a successful career and they had families, so it wasn't for pecuniary reasons. Although I let my wife play before I did and only started playing myself when she wanted me to, my one rule was no married men or women who are cheating. In retrospect, even if Daniela and I weren't swinging, I think getting to meet one of her ex-lovers over dinner was... interesting. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,416 Posted April 3, 2020 Now that we play with our group of married couples, Daniela gets her kink satisfied, along with her desire to lick the pussies of their wives. ? Quote Share this post Link to post