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So my wife and I have been dirty talking a MMF 3way for a bit now. She desperately wants to be penetrated while she gives oral, but she strongly thinks that as a married couple it should only be us.  She can't help but twerk her ass when she's on her knees sucking me and we both get super turned on when talking about another guy sharing her. I've talked her into getting a thrusting dildo and seeing how that goes. Any tips on how to get it to go further? I'd love to share my wife with another man and eventually experiment with other aspects of swinging.

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Wife and I played with this idea for years, then this spring she said she was ready to do it. We had our first MFM in may of this year. With a gentleman we found on SLS. We have had two other sessions with the same man. she loves it and has  multiple orgasms each time. Some so strong we have to hold her on the bed. We are talking to two other men and a couple now. I let her set the speed of each session, and she has complete control as to what she will and wont do. She has not had full intercourse yet, but now says she is ready for that. She has developed a true love of oral sex both giving and receiving and has started swallowing. This is all new in that she did not care that much for oral sex before. Needless to say our own sex life has exploded, and is hotter then ever. My advice is make sure she understands that its all about her, and let her move forward at her own speed. Then just set back and enjoy the ride.

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18 minutes ago, oldbutable said:

Wife and I played with this idea for years, then this spring she said she was ready to do it. We had our first MFM in may of this year. With a gentleman we found on SLS. We have had two other sessions with the same man. she loves it and has  multiple orgasms each time. Some so strong we have to hold her on the bed. We are talking to two other men and a couple now. I let her set the speed of each session, and she has complete control as to what she will and wont do. She has not had full intercourse yet, but now says she is ready for that. She has developed a true love of oral sex both giving and receiving and has started swallowing. This is all new in that she did not care that much for oral sex before. Needless to say our own sex life has exploded, and is hotter then ever. My advice is make sure she understands that its all about her, and let her move forward at her own speed. Then just set back and enjoy the ride.

Thanks for the advice. I've always wanted to be a bit more open with our sexuality, but was happy just with us. It was my wife that would keep saying she wished i could fuck her and she could suck me at the same time. Some light prodding and she started the roleplay of another guy (specifically bc she wants penetration). I think the idea of another person out of our relationship is still too much of a taboo for her, but I feel like roleplaying it and getting the toy is a good step in the right direction. Plus I figured, having it being about her pleasure and doing a MMF would be a good entry way into experimenting with more. Hopefully a swap, MFF or gangbangs are in the future.

There is something so arousing about sharing my wife with another person.

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As I have said before..... sometimes you have to close your eyes and jump into the pool. 

I agree with @oldbutable let her control the entire situation. Whatever you do do NOT push her. That almost always ends bad. The 2 of you need to talk ad nauseum not pillow talk but at the kitchen table. BOTH of you need to Google swinging and read it, then talk about it. 

 

Communication is key. If you can't BOTH vocalize what you want and don't want, and every fantasy, this could burn your relationship to the ground. But done right, this could be the best thing that a couple ever engaged in. If it helps make a list of likes and dislikes. Make a list of rules of what you are willing to do and not do. This, most likely will be fluid. We progressed to  not having a list of rules but more a list of things we don't like. 

 

With covid-19 it's hard to set something up. Keep in mind that parties and any clubs that might be open that you could be cited, fined and outed as a swinger and a super spreader. 

 

We highly recommend that you guys join a swinger site the most popular in your area, and find a meet and greet. Most important if you happen to live in a conservative part of the country. 

 

Please ask lots of questions here. This is one of the best resources and lots of people who are willing to help you get started.

 

 

 

 

 

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On 1/18/2021 at 12:44 PM, Idahocouple6969 said:

As I have said before..... sometimes you have to close your eyes and jump into the pool. 

I agree with @oldbutable let her control the entire situation. Whatever you do do NOT push her. That almost always ends bad. The 2 of you need to talk ad nauseum not pillow talk but at the kitchen table. BOTH of you need to Google swinging and read it, then talk about it. 

 

Communication is key. If you can't BOTH vocalize what you want and don't want, and every fantasy, this could burn your relationship to the ground. But done right, this could be the best thing that a couple ever engaged in. If it helps make a list of likes and dislikes. Make a list of rules of what you are willing to do and not do. This, most likely will be fluid. We progressed to  not having a list of rules but more a list of things we don't like. 

 

With covid-19 it's hard to set something up. Keep in mind that parties and any clubs that might be open that you could be cited, fined and outed as a swinger and a super spreader. 

 

We highly recommend that you guys join a swinger site the most popular in your area, and find a meet and greet. Most important if you happen to live in a conservative part of the country. 

 

Please ask lots of questions here. This is one of the best resources and lots of people who are willing to help you get started.

 

We are not in a conservative area luckily, Chicagoland area actually. But i feel like a lot of the apprehension is religious/cultural. She's Filipina and was raised very Catholic, but has had a major crisis of faith over the past few years. Last thing I want is to push her into something she doesn't want, just bc I want it, ya know?

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6 minutes ago, TheBiggerMan said:

MMF includes bisexuality between the two men.  MFM doesn't.

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On 1/18/2021 at 7:44 AM, SnakeCat said:

Any tips on how to get it to go further?

Let it be totally under her control.  Let your wife choose the guy, the place, soft or hard play, the situation (you there or not the first time, if you're there whether you participate, just watch, or are outside the door).  She may even have a plan, but then change it on-the-fly as things develop.  And let her know that whatever she decides, even if it changes the pre-arranged plan, is great by you.

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On 1/18/2021 at 1:48 PM, SnakeCat said:

and?

Good to know. Newbies (and dyslexic oldies) may not realize that MMF implies male interaction, MFM does not. 

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On 1/26/2021 at 11:55 AM, njbm said:

MMF implies male interaction, MFM does not.

Don't want to put too fine a point on it, but what about FFM vs. FMF?  In our case, both Fs will play with the M and with each other.  Instead of a linear representation, you need something two dimensional with lines drawn between who plays with whom.  Dotted lines for soft swap oral-only play.  

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Not really an easy option right now, but when things get back to normal, see if she is interested in going to a club or meet and greet.  No expectations at all, just a fun night out together.  Before she is comfortable with the idea of a threescore, she will have to be comfortable with swinging in general, and a great way to see that swingers are just regular people, with a fun hobby, is to go to a club just to check things out.  Even if you sit in a dark corner by yourselves all evening and just watch, it will go a long ways in determining if this is something you both want to pursue.

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P.s.  MMF vs MFM is sort of an inside baseball thing I think.  I used to use them separately too, but if you look at how much search traffic each gets, there is either 1) a huge until now unrecognized pool of bisexuality husbands out there, or 2) a lot of nonswingers use the terms interchangeably and actually favor MMF by a wide margin (which is why we use the MMF when tagging content here).

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On 1/18/2021 at 12:58 PM, SnakeCat said:

 

We are not in a conservative area luckily, Chicagoland area actually. But i feel like a lot of the apprehension is religious/cultural. She's Filipina and was raised very Catholic, but has had a major crisis of faith over the past few years. Last thing I want is to push her into something she doesn't want, just bc I want it, ya know?

My wife and I, while not Catholic, are close with God. This was a bit of a challenge for us as well; how do we reconcile that with wanting to have sex with other people? It's part of the journey of faith. There were a number of things that played into this for us.

 

One, the Old Testament has many, many examples of non-monogamy...so much so that it's almost hard to understand how the Judeo-Christian ethic became monogamy. In the New Testament, Jesus didn't really talk about sex.

 

Another point for us was assessing non-monogamy from the perspective of a crime, as it is laid out in the Ten Commandments. If it is a crime, who is the victim? If a married person cheats on their spouse, then yes there is clearly a victim. If the spouse is consenting, where is the victim? An abstract argument could be made that you are victimizing a lawful society, but it's a weak argument at best and I don't see it. Consenting adults having sex with each other in private isn't inflicting anything on anybody. An argument could be made you are victimizing your marriage. That argument didn't and doesn't hold water for us either. It has made our marriage stronger, not weaker. We are closer, more communicative, and more supportive of each other. I can't speak for all swingers, but I would venture to say that almost all swingers would report the same. There are some for whom swinging does not work, and that's fine for them. There is risk in anything you do in life and there are risks not related to swinging at all that can negatively impact your marriage as well. I remember reading something in the months leading up to our first swinging experience that noted that for 70% of couples, swinging had a positive or very positive impact on their marriage. For 28%, it was a neutral impact. For 2%, it had a negative impact. So, where is the victim? For us, there isn't one. Thus, there isn't a crime, thus there isn't adultery.

 

Yes, you don't want to push her at all, nor she you. I think you're further along on the pathway than she is. As the saying goes, a couple getting into swinging should always move at the pace of the slower spouse. That's perfectly fine.

 

Yes, it is very arousing to share your wife. Having been in many MFMs with my wife, I can tell you it is highly erotic to watch her have sex with another man. I love seeing her move in response to him, I love hearing her the sounds she makes as she's having sex with him, I love seeing his hands on her body, I love watching him slide in and out of her. I also love having sex with her seconds after she's had sex with another man.

 

Your wife sounds like my wife, in that my wife's favorite thing in an MFM is to have sex and oral sex at the same time. It is very erotic for her, and very fulfilling.

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      Judy continued vigorously, trying to get me to cum. She rested occasionally, stroking my length with her two hands. After a bit of time, I heard her ask Darrell, “Can I try this? I really want to try him.”
       
      “Hell yeah,” Darrell exclaimed. “Is that ok with you?” he asked me.
       
      “Sure,” I responded. Judy is still working on me. “Only cum in her mouth,” Darrell instructed. I mumbled an “ok” in agreement.
       
      Judy told me to lay back on the ottoman as she stood stripping off the tee shirt. Her breasts swung freely, jiggling with her every movement. I expected that I would be given a condom or she might roll one on me, but instead, she turned away from me and started to lower herself onto me reverse cowgirl. Seeing my concern, Darrell assured me it would be okay if I was okay with it. I agreed.
       
      My crotch was soaked with Judy’s saliva. I watched with eager anticipation as she positioned herself over me. Darrell was giving her some instruction so he could get his video of her lowering herself onto me. I witnessed a few rivulets trickling down her inner thighs. She grasped my cock with her hand and rubbed the end of it along her lips while slightly lowering herself back and forth but not penetrating. After a few moments, I felt her start to take me in. She gasped and stopped for a moment, then repeated, taking me out, rubbing me back in. God, she felt great.
       
      Judy shifted herself slightly, still holding my cock. She guided me back into her opening, taking just the head of me into her. After a brief pause, she lifted her hips up a little and then backed down a little further. A few strokes and then a little more. Each time she did this, shallowly stroking what she had in her, she would slowly take a little more. With each deeper penetration, her body would gently quiver a bit.
       
      “Damn, this is hot”! Darrell blurted out. If he thought what he saw was hot he should see this from my angle. Damn is right.
       
      I do not think either of us were aware of time. There was no rush, no frenzied groping or pumping. Judy was in complete control as it should be, all about her pleasure, her comfort.
      It wasn’t long before I was completely embedded inside the warmth of this woman. Using her body to stroke me, she would take me shallow, then deep strokes, occasionally stopping, deeply penetrating, and grinding on me, almost like dancing on me with her hips. I could hear her murmuring something from time to time, but I didn’t make out what she was saying. I was too engrossed with what she was doing to me.
       
      After a while, she stood, releasing my cock. She turned, facing me, and straddled my waist. Grasping my cock she guided me into her, and she settled completely on my cock. “Damn babe, do that again,” Darrell, now directing this video. I didn’t care at all; I was thoroughly enjoying myself.
       
      He directed her to rise up almost off me the slowly back down. I was lost in her breasts hanging down on me, her nipples brushing along my chest with her rocking motion. Judy’s breathing was quickening with the occasional moan. I loved stroking her breasts, using both hands to hold and squeeze while my mouth teased and pulled on her nipples. She started to ride me harder for a while, stopping every so often with full penetration, wiggling her hips. Once she started raising herself completely and then slamming herself back onto me, taking full, deep strokes, I started to feel that I was getting there.
       
      “I need you to take me,” mumbled Judy as she raised herself off of me. I stood, and she knelt on the ottoman. I accepted the offer of taking her from behind, but I took my time. Partial and shallow strokes, then slowly pushing in deep.
       
      Gauging that she was comfortable with this, I spread her cheeks apart with my hands, went as deep as possible, and paused. With each deep penetration and pause, she would gasp slightly and pump and grind against me.
       
      I’m not sure who was breathing more excitedly, Judy, me, or Darrell, who was totally lost in videoing and watching through the lens. He had swapped out his phone for a handheld video camera at some point, but I am not sure when. I hadn’t noticed.
       
      Judy set the pace. She started bucking back onto me hard and solid. I took the hint and picked up the pace, slamming back into her with full deep strokes. Her verbal jerky breathless “aaahhhs” and “oohhhs” excited me and Darrell. He was moving around us videoing from various angles commenting as he goes.
       
      Judy announced we had to stop. I was concerned if she was ok. She was; she just wanted to be on her back.
       
      She grasped my hand and, giggling, pulled me quickly down the hall, with Darrell a step behind me, to a bedroom. She sat on the bed and quickly took me into her mouth, running her tongue along my length. She laid back her butt on the edge of the bed, pulling me to her. “Fuck me hard,” she said, “but I want you to cum in my mouth.” I nodded that I understood.
      I position myself between her raised legs. She pulled her legs back and wide open, bent at the knees. I leaned in, pressing myself against her opening, grasping each breast in my hands. Bending to nuzzle and suck on her nipples made me enter her partially, making Judy wriggle a light and let out an audible sigh. I squeezed both breasts together and alternated between each nipple as I started to push deeper inside her. She wiggled her hips, trying to press onto me. Once fully penetrated, she ground herself on me.
       
      After a few minutes, I raised myself above her and started slowly pumping into her. I alternated shallow pumping with a few deep full strokes and, from time to time, pressing deep into her and just grinding against her. It seemed to excite her, judging by her body response and breathy moans. “Fuck me hard,” she said, “take me hard!” Our director shouted the same, “Pound her hard!”
       
      Placing a hand on each thigh to hold her legs open and back, I started a steady thrusting, alternating occasionally slamming against her hard. Judy responded with pleasing moans. She fondled and squeezed her breasts and then gathered them both on her chest, cradled by both her upper arms. Her breasts rocked and waved with each thrust. It was marvelous. I was desperately trying to keep the same pace.
       
      Judy traced her fingers over her lower tummy, bringing both over the top of her pubic mound. Her fingers, finding her sweet spot, started vigorously rubbing above her clitoris. I continued to piston in and out of Judy. Her mouth opened, and her breathing sounded labored.
       
      After a few minutes, she started to make a soft-pitched whimpering noise. I continued to thrust hard into her. Only slightly withdrawing, then slamming back into her, making her whole body jerk, her breasts jolting about with each impact. Her whining noise was getting a bit higher and louder, and then it hit. She suddenly sucked in a big breath of air, her head picked up off the bed, a long guttural moan that ended on a high note. “Aarrggeeeee!” Then, her back arched as she slammed her head back, followed by rapid breathing and intermittent uncontrolled giggling. I felt her contraction, an intense gripping of my cock as she climaxed.
       
      I slowed to a slow, deliberate, full-stroke penetration. I knew I was very close. I declared, “I’m going to cum!” and pulled out of Judy and stepped back. Judy slinked off the bed to her knees on the floor. I was pumping my cock by hand. Judy pushed it aside and started to rapidly jerk my cock by hand. “Cum for me, come on, cum” Judy repeated this a few times as the build-up reached its peak. I moaned low and loud. The first volley went across her open mouth and right cheek. The next, she aimed me directly into her mouth. Third and forth, under her chin and neck, the remaining small spurts and drops landed scattered over her breasts. “Wow, oh my god!” Judy squealed excitedly.
       
      Darrell was beside himself with excitement. Other than the pictures and videos they made themselves, this was the first video allowed with someone other than Darrell. He said, “This is crazy sexy, hot as hell”! The clock in the bedroom indicated we had been at this for about 90 minutes. A first for all of us. But to be fair, a hell of a lot of manual and oral play, stop and start, prolonged it all. Judy agreed, reached over, and pulled Darrell to her. She quickly pulled down his sweatpants and promptly took his cock in her mouth. I picked up their video camera and started videoing the two of them.
       
      Judy had Darrell hard in just a few seconds. She made an extra effort to lavish his cock with her mouth, bobbing her head up and down and then swallowing him whole.
       
      She then pulled him down on top of her. He quickly slipped inside her and started hammering away with Judy, encouraging him along, “Take me baby, fill me up!”
       
      From my view, I had a clear shot of him pumping his cock in and out of her. With her telling him to take her hard, cum for her, and watching the two of us for the past hour and a half, he had no hope of lasting very long. He started groaning, Judy telling him to fill her. He let out a bellow and started cumming inside her. I caught the whole thing on video. His pumping and cumming. His cum leaking around his cock out of her. And when he pulled out, the cum leaked out of her. When things calmed down, he viewed the video and couldn’t believe how hard he came and how much he gave her. Judy chimed in, “And you said you didn’t have anymore, holding out on me.”
       
      We didn’t get dressed. We went into the kitchen and talked about what had just happened and past swinging adventures. About an hour later, Judy walked over to me and asked if I could go again. I looked at Darrell, and he quickly shook his head yes. “If you can, that would be awesome”. I agreed.
       
      We walked back to the bedroom and climbed up on the bed. We kissed and fondled each other a little bit. I then positioned myself on my left side and maneuvered Judy on her back with her legs up and over my hip. I easily slipped my semi-soft cock inside her. She was very warm and wet from Darrell. My hands were free to caress and squeeze her breasts. Darrell switched between videoing and kissing Judy. He occasionally played and sucked on her breasts. I slowly pumped a little into Judy. After a few moments, she exclaimed, “I can feel you growing inside me,” and giggled in amazement.
       
      Once I was fully hard I changed position to a supporting missionary. Using my knees to keep Judy’s legs open and my arms keeping me up to watch and nibble on her breasts. I started slow, long thrusts and built up to harder, faster, full-length thrusts. In about fifteen minutes, I was pulling out and dribbling cum on her tummy. Judy sat up and slid down, taking me into her mouth, making an effort to suck and lick me clean.
       
      It was almost noon, and I had to run to get home on time. We promised each other we would get together soon, all four of us. And that we did. They joined our group and played once or twice a month at our parties. We also traveled and shared very often for 4 - 5 years. Then, they moved to New Mexico for Darrell’s work.
    • By Interestme82
      Hi out there. I’m married and in an evolving relationship. Last year I did a burlesque photo shoot for him as a gift. He loved the way it turned out but asked if I’d be willing to do something more risqué in the future. I got a reference from the original photographer (female) and told my husband the new photographer would be a male. Being the protective husband he is we both requested a meeting over a cup of coffee. We met which was great and made things all the more comfortable. I loved what I saw from his book and my husband did as well. 
       
      We had the shoot and the pictures came out great. He got really turned on by knowing another guy was doing the pictures. I was shocked. I asked him if he’d consider doing a couples shoot with me and he said he’d try but was reluctant. Pretty soon after he agreed and we were off again.
       
      Prior to the shoot my husband and the photographer talked about his career. My husband, who’s faithful, shocked me a bit with his envy and open talk about what the photographer experienced. I’m extremely open and joined in the conversation. Both of us felt like we were conversing with someone we really liked and knew a lot longer than we actually did. Unfortunately my husband had difficulties getting hard which is completely out of the ordinary. The photographer said it happened a lot and just to relax. 
       
      Surprisingly at my husband's request he asked for me to do a POV shoot the photographer showed us in his book. Basically it’s the photographer including himself in various ways while taking the pictures. As we started taking the pictures I liked being touched by the photographer even though it wasn’t active foreplay or sex. It really was strictly for the pictures themselves. During the pictures my husband quickly got hard and watched. Eventually the photographer asked him if he was going to get involved. The rest of the shoot went as we planned. Afterwards we all sat around and talked and went through the pictures.
       
      Some time passed again and we talked a lot about the fun we had with it. My husband admitted he liked watching the photographer touch me and if not for that he may have been to nervous to get hard. 

      I really want this to develop further but I’m apprehensive because it’s a major change in life obviously. I’m also not sure about how I feel about seeing him with someone else. When I say I’m not sure I mean most likely not. I don’t even really think he wants to. I almost feel like if I bring that up it will be too much too fast. Multiple times when having sex we’ve dirty talked about me doing another shoot and giving myself up. I’d feel more comfortable to actually do it than talk about it. 
       
      I feel like my husband has opened a door that I want to walk into. Am I reading it wrong? Is it best for me to just set something else up and let it work itself the way it will? Based on our interactions I have no doubt the photographer would be into it also. Would I be going to far given our relationship if I reached out to the him and told him how I feel, how my husband feels, and confirm he’d say yes? 
       
       
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