At My Gym

[cplnluv1 872]

With all the shutdowns and not going to the gym for what feels like forever I finally started going after my vaccinations. It was nice seeing some of the women who I had seen over the years, women and men who I only know in passing at the gym. My old gym friends who I would have very little conversation and mostly just idle gym talk. There are people you notice and say hello to and don’t know their names. 
I was on the elliptical, with my mask on, and not paying attention to anyone and then I see a woman two machines over having mask problems. I recognize her from classes we both took over the years. Feeling bad I motion that I have extra masks she could have. 
I now know she wanted to get my attention. She told me her name and said she knows someone in common with me. My heart blipped when she said who, a woman we met a few years ago. She said she knows we haven’t talked in years but she her friend knew I worked out in this gym. Don’t know how she knew or how she would know I would be there at that time. 
I didn’t know to react when she said if we could talk after our workout. The couple she knew were one of the couples we met on a site who were just starting out.  The couple lived not close to us, something we did for many reasons. 
Now I have someone who is in our everyday life asking me questions about swinging. I couldn’t get a real answer of how she got my name or why her friend would bring my name up. Her friends are swingers, they have met others after us. Her promise of discretion is gone, I’m not sure how to handle this new friend. Her and husband have not met anyone, even if they are friends with swingers. She told me that they have talked and knew her friends met us and for a year her and her husband talked about what it would be like. Her friends refused to be the first for them, too close they said. So much could go wrong and jealousy could ruin the friendship. 
She asked if we would just meet with her and her husband for drinks. Her and her husband have been vaccinated and have been monogamous in their marriage. She showed me a picture of her husband who I recognized from the gym. They both workout and she said they live a healthy life. 
In the years we have met others we always kept our lives separate from our play. Not sure if meeting someone who knows more about me, maybe stalking me, is someone we should get involved with. 

[njbm 2,880]

Sounds ok to me and I am sensitive to conflicts. Only question is if you do not go on to play or it’s a one and done situation, do you mind seeing them at the gym? If so, is there a swinger couple you can fix them up with?

 

I am alarmed that a previous couple outed you to this woman. That is a problem. Most swingers would never do that. 

[cplnluv1 872]

1 hour ago, njbm said:

 

I am alarmed that a previous couple outed you to this woman. That is a problem. Most swingers would never do that. 

Exactly!!

I don’t remember telling them I go to this gym. I try to keep my private life just that, Private. Is it possible? 
She said her friend confided that they were trying something new back a few years ago. How many friends talk about meeting a couple for swinging? 
 

[tkntd 59]

Stalking is probably a bit of a leap, but caution is always a good thing. Meeting for drinks is safe enough, but I’d definite be having words with the “previous couple.” 

[Sunday 119]

5 hours ago, cplnluv1 said:

With all the shutdowns and not going to the gym for what feels like forever I finally started going after my vaccinations. It was nice seeing some of the women who I had seen over the years, women and men who I only know in passing at the gym. My old gym friends who I would have very little conversation and mostly just idle gym talk. There are people you notice and say hello to and don’t know their names. 
I was on the elliptical, with my mask on, and not paying attention to anyone and then I see a woman two machines over having mask problems. I recognize her from classes we both took over the years. Feeling bad I motion that I have extra masks she could have. 
I now know she wanted to get my attention. She told me her name and said she knows someone in common with me. My heart blipped when she said who, a woman we met a few years ago. She said she knows we haven’t talked in years but she her friend knew I worked out in this gym. Don’t know how she knew or how she would know I would be there at that time. 
I didn’t know to react when she said if we could talk after our workout. The couple she knew were one of the couples we met on a site who were just starting out.  The couple lived not close to us, something we did for many reasons. 
Now I have someone who is in our everyday life asking me questions about swinging. I couldn’t get a real answer of how she got my name or why her friend would bring my name up. Her friends are swingers, they have met others after us. Her promise of discretion is gone, I’m not sure how to handle this new friend. Her and husband have not met anyone, even if they are friends with swingers. She told me that they have talked and knew her friends met us and for a year her and her husband talked about what it would be like. Her friends refused to be the first for them, too close they said. So much could go wrong and jealousy could ruin the friendship. 
She asked if we would just meet with her and her husband for drinks. Her and her husband have been vaccinated and have been monogamous in their marriage. She showed me a picture of her husband who I recognized from the gym. They both workout and she said they live a healthy life. 
In the years we have met others we always kept our lives separate from our play. Not sure if meeting someone who knows more about me, maybe stalking me, is someone we should get involved with. 

 

She recognized you from the swinger site and made-up the story about the other couple - or possibly had a casual/virtual contact with them on the site and noticed that you two verified each other...something like that.

 

That's my guess.

 

 

Edited April 3, 2021 by Sunday

[cplnluv1 872]

3 hours ago, tkntd said:

Stalking is probably a bit of a leap, but caution is always a good thing. Meeting for drinks is safe enough, but I’d definite be having words with the “previous couple.” 

 

17 minutes ago, Sunday said:

 

She recognized you from the swinger site and made-up the story about the other couple - or possibly had a casual/virtual contact with them on the site and noticed that you two verified each other...something like that.

 

That's my guess.

 

 

I called the couple to see the real story. We aren’t on that site anymore. 

[Sunday 119]

10 minutes ago, cplnluv1 said:

 

I called the couple to see the real story. We aren’t on that site anymore. 

Do tell - what did they say?

[njbm 2,880]

1 hour ago, cplnluv1 said:

 

I called the couple to see the real story. We aren’t on that site anymore. 

What is the story?

[cplnluv1 872]

11 hours ago, Sunday said:

Do tell - what did they say?

Haven’t heard back yet. 
I am a little upset that we were outed in our own area and wasn’t told that I was going to ambushed at the gym. Alan is making lemonade out of this saying we should be flattered that she searched us out. He is say so what if the couple enjoyed what we do and sent us a couple that is looking for a caring couple to guide them, that is what we did for them. 

[Fitlakecouple 451]

One question to ask yourself is: Did they do this to "help me" or "hurt me"? I would frame my response accordingly.

Of course, they should have checked with you and asked permission before sharing your business. But, they did it with people in the lifestyle in what seems to be an attempt to facilitate connection not to hurt you... Given that, I'd temper my anger.

[cplnluv1 872]

20 minutes ago, Fitlakecouple said:

One question to ask yourself is: Did they do this to "help me" or "hurt me"? I would frame my response accordingly.

Alan said the same thing. He said be flattered that we are being talked about in a positive way. He said put the way we were contacted aside, would we want to meet this couple if we were contacted on the internet. Are they an attractive, clean couple looking for guidance. I answered that we agreed to stay away from couples that are in our private lives. He answered that they aren’t in our our lives and they are both healthy and fit. 

[njbm 2,880]

We would not tell anyone that other people are in the lifestyle or even nudism without the other people’s express consent. It’s not a matter of helping. It’s about privacy. 
 

One of our nude beach buddies (female) was on a bowling team with one of my wife’s co-workers (male). Our buddy let it slip that she hangs out with my wife at the nude beach. She called my wife immediately and apologized profusely. We did believe it was accidental. Everyone survived. The co-worker never said anything to my wife or anyone else as far as we know. I am sure our buddy was mortified and told him to forget she said it. 

[cplnluv1 872]

I got a text response but I needed more so I called her. 
She claims she told me about her friend when we met, something I don’t remember if she did 2 years ago. She said she had a friend who went to my gym, again I don’t remember. 
I asked why didn’t she and her husband play with her friend and she said she tried alone and it didn’t work out. Her friend, the one at my gym, couldn’t do it. 
We then got into a discussion about turning 50 and changes we go through and the pandemic and what we have been doing. 
I told her we keep our private life private and I hate that too many people know what we do and she apologized and said she should have reached out not knowing both me and her friend would be at the gym at the same time. She swore nobody was stalking me, she thinks her friend just built up her nerve to approach me. Then she thanked me for being so nice when we met knowing how scared she was. 
Alan suggested I talk to the gym friend. 

[KatrinaandDriverX 101]

At some point you just have to accept the place you're at and not worry about finding out exactly how you got there.

 

And I have to agree, at some point real life is just an extension of high school.

 

Be seeing you.

[cplnluv1 872]

3 hours ago, KatrinaandDriverX said:

 

Be seeing you.

Huh? You know us?

 

Think you might be right about things not changing since school. 

[njbm 2,880]

We have a circle of lifestyle friends. Who likes who, who will do who, the whole thing is confusing. I prefer Bliss, Desire or Hedonism encounters. 

[TricianMike 775]

I would say this is a Win-Win for you. You don’t need to look for a willing couple who has never been with anyone. They already know you and made the first move. She must find you attractive and you acknowledged you know her friends. I think your secret is no longer a secret. 

[KatrinaandDriverX 101]

'Be seeing you' is simply a phrase to use instead of 'Take Care', or something like that.  Unless you're Number 6. You'll have to look that up.  

 

 

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

1 hour ago, KatrinaandDriverX said:

'Be seeing you' is simply a phrase to use instead of 'Take Care', or something like that.  Unless you're Number 6. You'll have to look that up.  

 

 

Who is Number 1?  

[TricianMike 775]

I don’t get it. I figured there was going to be a party and we didn’t get an invite. 
Number 6? Fun is #1. 

Where is this gym?
 

 

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

12 hours ago, TricianMike said:

I don’t get it. I figured there was going to be a party and we didn’t get an invite. 
Number 6? Fun is #1. 

Where is this gym?
 

 

Alas, the obscure references to "Be Seeing You", Number Six, Number One have dated us. 

 

 

In the middle of the 20th century, during height of the Cold War, there emerged a number of television series about spies and their lives. Among the best were two British series. The first was called "Secret Agent", and the second called "The Prisoner". Both starred the extraordinary Patrick McGoohan. You might know the former from its catchy theme song by Johnny Rivers, listen here 

 

 

The second series implied that McGoohan's character had tried to leave the spy biz and was interned at a camp for such people (hence the title "The Prisoner"). His name was indeed "taken away" and he was referred to only as Number Six, engaged in a game of wits with a series of Number Twos, and always asking the question "Who is Number One?"  

 

This was Brit TV at its best in that era. 

 

Be seeing you...

 

 

[cplnluv1 872]

Thank you, I didn’t understand the reference either. Maybe Netflix or Hulu will help. 
Plan on meeting my stalker later today to get to the truth which is most likely what she said. I’m interested in how she just so happened to be a member at my gym. 
 

Au Revoir. 

[njbm 2,880]

Did anyone see the Austin Powers movie where they asked him who number 2 worked for and Tom Arnold narrated the struggle from the next bathroom stall?
 

Vulgar, childish and funny. 

[GoldCoCouple 4,066]

Number Six: Where am I?

Number Two: In the Village.

Number Six: What do you want?

Number Two: Information.

Number Six: Whose side are you on?

Number Two: That would be telling. We want information… information… information.

Number Six: You won't get it.

Number Two: By hook or by crook, we will.

Number Six: Who are you?

Number Two: The new Number Two.

Number Six: Who is Number One?

Number Two: You are Number Six.

Number Six: I am not a number! I am a free man!

Number Two: [laughs]

 

Also used in the beginning of the Iron Maiden song also called 'The Prisioner'...or so I have heard.

[GoldCoCouple 4,066]

Sounds like at some time her 'friend' let it slip that they were either swinging or trying out swinging and it was exciting for her to hear that others actually did this. "With who?!". Her friend told her it was you. It stuck and excited her. Either by accident or on purpose, she 'ran' into you. I would guess that her and her husband haven't even really talked about swinging, but she is very excited about the idea...there are a lot of people who would feel this way and vicariously live out their fantasies through others. Most likely she just wants to find out more about it. If you are interested in meeting them (with extreme caution since I already suspect the husband doesn't really know what is going on), then go for it, but only after asking her to have a serious talk with her husband about swinging. A platonic meeting (making sure she understands that it is only platonic) doesn't really hurt (unless she can't keep the gossip to herself). If you aren't interested, then just politely tell her you are not interested...and don't have any idea what she is even talking about. It sounds like you really haven't been 'outed', but you don't want to give her a chance to do the outing.

[cplnluv1 872]

I have some clarification on how our contact happened. 
Contrary to what I thought was stalking she told me she has been too nervous to approach me for over two years, one of those was during lockdown. 
Her friends confided in her how they were looking to find a couple, and approached her and her husband. She said that her and her husband were not into anything like that. What happened was her friend telling her how they finally met us. She swears it was coincidence that she belonged to the same gym I belong to. I still don’t remember telling anyone I belong to the gym, possible? Maybe. 
Things changed after her friends met us. They kept telling her that the experience was what they needed. The way she explained it to me, her husband agreed to play with the couple we met. She backed out several times. She couldn’t go through with it, being friends was a bigger problem. 
She said the closest they got to playing was her husband encouraged her to play and he wouldn’t do anything unless she was comfortable. The night she was prepared to go all the way our friends husband got as far as putting his hand in her pants when she froze again. 
That is when my name came up. Better to try with strangers than friends. I explained we are more open to women who are curious and that our focus would be on that if we meet. She said she understood, she knew that is what we did with her friend. 
Is this the real story, it sounded feasible. She sounded sincere in wanting to get involved with any pressure and without a friendship that could be ruined. 

[MidwestHoneys 359]

U guys seem great. Honey just goes to the honey pot when we are with a first time player. 

[GoldCoCouple 4,066]

Since you seem to be so worried about this, repeat after me:

 

"I have no idea what you are talking about."

 

If that doesn't work, add "you sexual deviant, please go away"

[cplnluv1 872]

2 hours ago, GoldCoCouple said:

Since you seem to be so worried about this, repeat after me:

 

"I have no idea what you are talking about."

 

If that doesn't work, add "you sexual deviant, please go away"

Not really worried, normally we would jump at the opportunity of being with her and her husband. They aren’t in our circle of friends, just a gym goer like us. 
We understand that people we met would tell others if they talk about such things. We prefer to keep our vanilla friends out of that part of our life. We have resisted coming out to our very closest friends. 

[PeterJ 954]

2 hours ago, GoldCoCouple said:

If that doesn't work, add "you sexual deviant, please go away"

?  I love that tag! ?

[cplnluv1 872]

Yesterday after work, I WFH, went to the gym and my new friend was there. I apologized for not following up on getting together. I suggested a Starbucks after the gym. There goes the calories. 
Even if she told me before I wanted to get to know the real Why they wanted to meet us. I already knew about the attempt with their friends that she stopped, I wanted to know the real reason. 
She said they never thought of swinging, never. When her friends opened up to her she thought it was a crazy idea that they were having sex with others. The others were Alan and me I’m thinking. Her friends told her how freeing it was, having been married 25 years and only being with one person. She mentioned menopause has changed their sex life, something new ignited a newness. They questioned the why and the why nots. I asked why she wants to be with a woman, I had asked her the last time. She explained she never thought of ever being with a girlfriend then all the lesbian relationships on TV and movies and her friend telling her she should open her mind. She said she was ready to explore two years ago, just couldn’t with her friends. Asked about her husband and seeing him with me, she hesitated and said yes she wants that. 
I felt like I was interviewing her, asked what she really wanted, her scenario. She said she didn’t know and wanted me to go slow like we did with her friends. 
I went home happy I saw her again, she is a very nice and funny person. The more we talked the more I liked her. 

[GoldCoCouple 4,066]

 

I still think she's a sexual deviant

[cplnluv1 872]

5 hours ago, GoldCoCouple said:

 

I still think she's a sexual deviant

We sure hope so ?

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

11 hours ago, cplnluv1 said:

I felt like I was interviewing her, asked what she really wanted, her scenario. She said she didn’t know and wanted me to go slow like we did with her friends. 
I went home happy I saw her again, she is a very nice and funny person. The more we talked the more I liked her. 

We were all new once. Introspection is hard. Acknowledging fantasies, professing intentions, setting boundaries, those are hard as well. Monogamy insulates and contains, what is inside becomes familiar and safe. Once that insulation becomes porous, weakens, and cracks, those inside are no longer contained...but neither do they enjoy the comforting protection. Your conversation required courage...for both of you. 

[cplnluv1 872]

10 hours ago, Fundamental Law said:

We were all new once. Introspection is hard. Acknowledging fantasies, professing intentions, setting boundaries, those are hard as well. Monogamy insulates and contains, what is inside becomes familiar and safe. Once that insulation becomes porous, weakens, and cracks, those inside are no longer contained...but neither do they enjoy the comforting protection. Your conversation required courage...for both of you. 

What I call an interview was fun for me, looking back possibly uncomfortable for her. She came across as educated, health conscious and I would consider attractive making our chat enjoyable. We talked about women talk, and how she is handling changes. 
Her reason for wanting to enjoy others was much different than ours. We were looking for a woman, I wasn’t interested in adding a man to the equation, it just happened to find that unicorn we ended with a couple. I told her my fear was my husband watching me with a man. She said her husband is fine with that and she is looking forward to the complete experience. 

[Baconheads 432]

I think you're looking a gift horse in the mouth.  Go with it, have fun!

 

There are a lot of us that would be dying to be in your shoes.

[cplnluv1 872]

12 hours ago, Baconheads said:

I think you're looking a gift horse in the mouth.  Go with it, have fun!

 

There are a lot of us that would be dying to be in your shoes.

I know I’m overthinking this, Alan laughed at me and my conspiracy theories. He said what you are saying and used my own words to convince me to set up a date. She is attractive, smart and real. I already know more about her than any other couple before. He convinced me to set up the date. 

[GoldCoCouple 4,066]

Changes the definition of going for 'a work out'

[MidwestHoneys 359]

On 4/14/2021 at 7:34 PM, Baconheads said:

I think you're looking a gift horse in the mouth.  Go with it, have fun!

 

There are a lot of us that would be dying to be in your shoes.

Spot on!  Go have your fun and show her a good time. 

[TricianMike 775]

On 4/15/2021 at 7:57 AM, cplnluv1 said:

I know I’m overthinking this, Alan laughed at me and my conspiracy theories. He said what you are saying and used my own words to convince me to set up a date. She is attractive, smart and real. I already know more about her than any other couple before. He convinced me to set up the date. 

You are a great couple and will make them feel welcome and safe. Linda you are a terrific person. 

[cplnluv1 872]

23 hours ago, TricianMike said:

You are a great couple and will make them feel welcome and safe. Linda you are a terrific person. 

Thank you. 
The woman from the gym and her husband are nice people. Some people need time to adjust to what they think they want to do. We never push and let others go at their own speed. 

[cplnluv1 872]

Twice this week I talked to my friend at the gym. Maybe a coincidence we are both there at the same time, the gym does have more people now with people being vaccinated. When I saw her I gave her a big hug and she apologized for not doing everything we thought we would. I reassured her that what she wanted is a difficult change from things that for her was normal. We will meet again now that we know them as our new friends and they can be more comfortable with us. 

[MidwestHoneys 359]

On 4/17/2021 at 10:56 PM, TricianMike said:

You are a great couple and will make them feel welcome and safe. Linda you are a terrific person. 

You know her? Wow!

 

1 hour ago, cplnluv1 said:

We will meet again now that we know them as our new friends and they can be more comfortable with us. 

Can’t wait to read what happens. 

[cplnluv1 872]

On 4/24/2021 at 9:52 AM, MidwestHoneys said:

You know her? Wow!

 

Can’t wait to read what happens. 

Not all people are made to swing and only think they are ready 

 

Some things should just remain a curiosity. 

[bbarnsworth 2,640]

Tossing a few cents into the bucket...

 

It seems like you are going down this road with this couple now, so this is perhaps post-facto. I don't think there's any risk in proceeding with this couple in the sense of more people knowing about your swinging life. They already know. Playing with them isn't going to change that of course.

 

I wouldn't suspect some sort of stalking going on in regards to her being at the gym at the same time. It's just coincidence, and more likely to happen than people suspect. Your lives in terms of general schedules are probably vaguely similar, with free time slots being vaguely similar. Thus, showing up at the gym is more likely than we might otherwise suspect.

 

Based on what you've told us, she seems sincere. Nervous, but sincere.

[cplnluv1 872]

43 minutes ago, bbarnsworth said:

Based on what you've told us, she seems sincere. Nervous, but sincere.

They are sincere and very nervous, he is more willing but is respectful of her wants. 
 

They invited us to their house which is fine for us and I sensed the nervousness immediately. We let her bring up the first mention of sex, she asked general questions about other couples we met. We stayed away from talking about her friend who we were with. She asked how to start, do we just get naked and I suggested she undress Alan then me and we can take it from there. She said to let her husband undress me. We tried to make it fun, again she was very nervous. She undressed Alan leaving his underwear on, her husband undressed me completely and hesitantly touched me. I said it was our turn and she agreed but asked to leave her panties on. She questioned what next, I jokingly answered watch TV. 
 

We continued to some soft play, not total play. It was me who suggested we stop, it was already to much for her to absorb. I know she was relieved that we didn’t push going all the way. 

[Fundamental Law 2,885]

1 hour ago, cplnluv1 said:

They are sincere and very nervous, he is more willing but is respectful of her wants. ... We continued to some soft play, not total play. It was me who suggested we stop, it was already to much for her to absorb. I know she was relieved that we didn’t push going all the way. 

You are wonderful mentors and guides. The LS would be a happier place if every mentor-newby relationship looked like this. Blessings to all of you.

[bbarnsworth 2,640]

cplnluv1, I agree with Fundamental Law. It sounds like you are really going about this in the right way.

I wish I could be a fly on the wall in that couple's discussion afterwards :) Some very few couples can just jump in to the deep end of the swinging pool right off. Some take many years. Most are in between. This couple sounds like they are going about it the right way, taking their time, going slowly, not pushing too far past their comfort zones. I'm sure their discussions are going well (regardless of outcome).

 

[cplnluv1 872]

10 hours ago, Fundamental Law said:

You are wonderful mentors and guides. The LS would be a happier place if every mentor-newby relationship looked like this. Blessings to all of you.

Thank you. It is strange feeling when we meet a new couple, my first question is are they who they say they are, we have met with too eager couples. We both enjoy the swinging experiences unless the people are totally obnoxious but that can be a defense mechanism. You understand that our objective is sex, sex with a newbie. 
Our initial contacts in the LS was Alan wanting to watch two women and progressed to much more. That first experience had us shaking our head when the guy treated his partner and me very poorly. Instead of souring us we turned our thoughts to trying to make others have positive takeaways. 
I think we agree if this couple wasn’t sincere on top of being extremely nice, fun, and personable we would have quit by now. 

 

8 hours ago, bbarnsworth said:

wish I could be a fly on the wall in that couple's discussion afterwards

I am sure all couples have discussions afterwards, we do. Sitting in a room completely nude you get to see exactly who you are with, emotionally and physically. We find them very attractive, Alan said he was looking forward to completing the acts, he is a guy. 
 

Our time was not totally without sex, both husbands were pleased and we suggested that if she didn’t want to continue we can resume at another time if they wanted. She suggested that her husband could go further, it didn’t happen. I believe it will soon. 

[bbarnsworth 2,640]

10 hours ago, cplnluv1 said:

That first experience had us shaking our head when the guy treated his partner and me very poorly. Instead of souring us we turned our thoughts to trying to make others have positive takeaways.

Before my wife and I had our first experience, we talked about the possibility of having neutral or even bad experiences in swinging. We both agreed that we shouldn't judge it based on one experience, or even a few that were neutral or bad before we found good. We decided to play it by ear and see where we were after two or three experiences. Good thing too. It wasn't until the third experience  (a MFM); that one blew my wife's socks off, and she was hooked.