itsmrcurious 24 Posted April 10, 2021 So we've been working at finding the right situation for a while (as we've described in detail on these forums). My wife has been quite reluctant to get involved, even though she is very sexual and the prospect always turns her on during porn // roleplay. We met a great couple at a party a while back and they were at the last 3 parties we went to. The third time, my wife apparently felt comfortable enough with them to ask if they wanted to come back with us and we had a very enjoyable evening. My wife finally let the handbrake off and behaved like the slut that I know she can be, and it was fantastic. She had an amazing time and was super horny for days afterwards. That's until the BV (Bacterial Vaginosis) kicked in. She's been very uncomfortable and self conscious of a challenging smell down there for the last month - we've done a round of strong antibiotics and it doesn't seem to have totally worked. A lot of reading later and it seems like this is a very mysterious disease - nobody knows how it spreads, it doesn't cure easily, etc. So of course this has completely ruined her desire to continue our journey. She is hating the fact that her beautiful pussy is out of action and to her mind not so beautiful any more and once again she is back to thinking that the risks and hassle outweigh the rewards. I certainly don't want to put her in harms way again and hate her feeling of inadequacy. A few questions if I may to (hopefully) better educate myself. how common is BV? I've done a decent amount of research, but haven't come up with much. any better ideas how she may have got it? The other lady was super paranoid all night about anyone touching her (my wife wasn't allowed to use fingers, I wasn't allowed anywhere near her which of course was fine. She kept talking about how sensitive women are down there, particularly their pH levels, which suggested to me she might have struggled with it in the past). I made sure her husband wore condoms all the time. do people become more susceptible to it once they've had it once? Any other ways to get rid of it - the (very strong) antibiotics didn't really clear it up, and she (understandably) doesn't want to do another round. Can I give it to her again now? I think that's about it for the moment - if anyone has any ideas, would love to hear them. Thanks for the support as always! Quote Share this post Link to post
njbm 2,880 Posted April 10, 2021 I think you have to have a doctor figure out how to knock out the infection. I think you have to knock that couple off your invite list. Let some time pass (it is a pandemic and I think less people are playing). See how your wife feels in the future. We’ve had some health scares and we have friends and acquaintances who have run into health issues. It is the dark side of swinging. Quote Share this post Link to post
Fundamental Law 2,885 Posted April 10, 2021 Good questions. Bacterial vaginosis is the consequence of a change in the resident microbes in the vagina. First, the vagina is "self cleaning". The normal flora help: some produce hydrogen peroxide in small quantities that help kill the undesirable microbes. What happens in BV is that the pre-existing delicate ecosystem gets replaced by some anaerobic organisms that prefer to multiply without oxygen. As they take over, the previous flora are forced out. The problem arises knowing which anaerobes are the problem. If they are bacteria, then clindamycin will help. If they are protozoan, then tinidazole is likely to help. If the problem is candidiasis--which can be confused with BV--then fluconazole is the answer. The challenge is making the *correct* identification, treating for an adequate period of time, and then letting the normal flora re-emerge. Some reassurances: it will eventually resolve. Some advice: make sure that your health care professional is experienced in treating this. It may take an experienced GYN to look at the fluid under a microscope. Some logical things: avoid behaviors that favor an anaerobic environment. If discharge is a problem, then wear absorbent yet breathable cotton underwear and change often. otherwise, it may make more sense to go without and wear skirts/dresses and not trousers. No tight yoga pants, bike shorts etc. Shower and dry immediately after exercise. and so on. Avoid home remedy douches. Generally, avoid douches altogether. Yes, sex can predispose to BV. Yes, sex with more than one partner can predispose to BV. But sex is not necessary to develop BV. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
itsmrcurious 24 Posted April 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Fundamental Law said: Good questions. Bacterial vaginosis is the consequence of a change in the resident microbes in the vagina. First, the vagina is "self cleaning". The normal flora help: some produce hydrogen peroxide in small quantities that help kill the undesirable microbes. What happens in BV is that the pre-existing delicate ecosystem gets replaced by some anaerobic organisms that prefer to multiply without oxygen. As they take over, the previous flora are forced out. The problem arises knowing which anaerobes are the problem. If they are bacteria, then clindamycin will help. If they are protozoan, then tinidazole is likely to help. If the problem is candidiasis--which can be confused with BV--then fluconazole is the answer. The challenge is making the *correct* identification, treating for an adequate period of time, and then letting the normal flora re-emerge. Some reassurances: it will eventually resolve. Some advice: make sure that your health care professional is experienced in treating this. It may take an experienced GYN to look at the fluid under a microscope. Some logical things: avoid behaviors that favor an anaerobic environment. If discharge is a problem, then wear absorbent yet breathable cotton underwear and change often. otherwise, it may make more sense to go without and wear skirts/dresses and not trousers. No tight yoga pants, bike shorts etc. Shower and dry immediately after exercise. and so on. Avoid home remedy douches. Generally, avoid douches altogether. Yes, sex can predispose to BV. Yes, sex with more than one partner can predispose to BV. But sex is not necessary to develop BV. This is an awesome answer. Thanks so much for taking the time. We have taken some time off sex entirely to try and get rid of it. Definitely a tough moment for me :-), but particularly for her.... Quote Share this post Link to post
AndrewandAnn 360 Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Best advice possible: Get her back to her to her OB/GYN and share your medical history, behaviors, questions and concerns. There is nothing you're going to read on the Internet that is going to supersede the importance of her being under the direct care of a medical doctor familiar with this condition. Also, if I may offer some unsolicited advice, it's important that she discusses with her doctor the fact that you two are engaging in sex with multiple partners. Sharing multiple sex partners involves certain inherent risks and, frankly, there are more serious things to be concerned about than BV. Your doctor can inform you about them and offer some advice to help you side-step some potential problems in the future should you decide to continue to swing. Best of luck and stay safe. Edited April 11, 2021 by AndrewandAnn Quote Share this post Link to post
itsmrcurious 24 Posted April 12, 2021 11 hours ago, AndrewandAnn said: Best advice possible: Get her back to her to her OB/GYN and share your medical history, behaviors, questions and concerns. There is nothing you're going to read on the Internet that is going to supersede the importance of her being under the direct care of a medical doctor familiar with this condition. Also, if I may offer some unsolicited advice, it's important that she discusses with her doctor the fact that you two are engaging in sex with multiple partners. Sharing multiple sex partners involves certain inherent risks and, frankly, there are more serious things to be concerned about than BV. Your doctor can inform you about them and offer some advice to help you side-step some potential problems in the future should you decide to continue to swing. Best of luck and stay safe. Thanks guys. She did initially go to her gynecologist, got the swab, so presumably got the right antibiotics. We are pretty honest about our extra-curricular activities, so no worries there. Definitely always practise safe sex as much as is possible. Been reading a bit about other partners taking off the condom in mid flow, which seems a bit suss, but anyway, try to be as careful as we can be. Thanks for your care and attention. Love this community.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
GoldCoCouple 4,066 Posted April 12, 2021 This reminded me of a couple of T shirts (I am a great collector) that I have seen: Science: Just like magic, but real Science doesn't care how you feel about it 2 Quote Share this post Link to post