EastInWest 1,524 Posted December 31, 2021 Think we're all a little down about how things are going lately and a lot of people have posted their disappointments, but I'm hoping a lot of the regulars have found some bright spots and been able to enjoy their activities. Does anyone have anything enjoyable they've done the last couple of weeks or are looking forward to very soon? Cancelled a planned big trip abroad for the holidays, then cancelled a planned weekend trip nearby as things deteriorated. Not so much because we're worried about getting very ill as we are because things would likely close or be difficult to enjoy due to the restrictions. It was the right decision, but a let-down. With that said, we're having a very early New Year's Eve dinner with friends before things get crowded. After that, we're going a little ways out of town and doing something different that we've never tried before: a complete overnight date swap. We've played with the woman many times and Mrs. E has done FMF with her and the male independently, and we wanted to do a full swap once it was possible for everyone to meet again. Thought it would be fun to try it as a mixed double date for cocktails, leave for our hotel before the after-dinner party crowd, and see where things go. Mrs. E hasn't had an excuse to wear a tight dress since the summer. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
NWAtlSwing 526 Posted December 31, 2021 Our party ended up a bust with people not bing able to make it for one reason or anohter. Ah well. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
njbm 2,901 Posted December 31, 2021 In our bunker. Take out lobster, crab, shrimp, oysters, champagne. Happy New Year to all, hope the pandemic is a bad memory next year. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
EastInWest 1,524 Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 5:17 PM, NWAtlSwing said: Our party ended up a bust with people not bing able to make it for one reason or anohter. Ah well. That's a shame, but understandable. I'll admit NYE itself felt like a chore this year and I heard the same thing from many other people. We felt very bored meeting our friends for dinner, although we had a good time after all and the evening ultimately turned around. Before we know it, it'll be spring and I suspect a lot of people will be more comfortable mingling as case numbers trail off again. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fundamental Law 2,903 Posted January 3, 2022 While Omicron is currently putting a damper on work, vanilla fun, and LS pleasures, many epidemiologists predict a swift rise and then a fairly rapid decline in cases. Our nature as a species tends to impatience and to cleverness. We also are blessed/cursed with fairly short memories, especially of things that we would rather forget. Better to focus on plans made than to dwell on plans that went unfulfilled. We are hoping that things settle down to the point where the cruise we reserved back in 2020 actually happens in the late springtime. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
NerdsAreFun 229 Posted January 3, 2022 Yeah all still remains on hold due to the current spike, which is higher than it's ever been. When this spike dies off though we plan to have some fun, exclusively with some other vaccinated playmates. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
BillyandDebbie 301 Posted January 4, 2022 We are home from our trip and our first lifestyle experience. With Debbie and I thrice vaccinated, our daughter twice, our daughter is now showing signs of something. We waited hours to be tested and are all waiting for results of our nasal swabs. Every cough and sniffle, every body ache makes us wonder. On an up note Debbie and I are reliving and re-remembering how things happened, something we could do on our trip home with our daughter in the car. I read that reliving and talking is part of the fun. Things that happened become clearer or is it cloudy as we talk, and laugh at what we remember. Talking with your spouse is always mentioned as an important next step after doing what we did, that’s not a problem for us as we are always sharing, we talk. Debbie told me things that I didn’t notice happen that first time, because I was preoccupied or lights were low or I just missed it Something that is very rarely, if ever posted, is it common to talk to your play partners, for us friends, after. I called my friend and we talked about our wives and what he thought about sex with Debbie, I had to ask what his wife said about me. I have no idea if he was truthful in his praises and him saying he can’t wait to see us soon. Now we wait for those damn results that are taking longer because the labs are overwhelmed. We all tested negative on rapid tests before the week, now everyone says rapid tests aren’t accurate in a fluid changing time. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
EastInWest 1,524 Posted January 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, BillyandDebbie said: Now we wait for those damn results that are taking longer because the labs are overwhelmed. We all tested negative on rapid tests before the week, now everyone says rapid tests aren’t accurate in a fluid changing time. For what it's worth, rapid tests are very accurate for positives, but probably about 66% accurate for negatives. They were really meant to be used frequently in population health settings - like daily tests in a workplace - to reduce viral load, home testing is kind of a side application. It works, but imperfectly. As for the reminiscing, when your health scare passes, what we were talking about above is that you might find that the two of you have much more intense and frequent sex with each other for a while, fueled by the rush of the thing you did together. These days Mrs. E and I might average one session a day or slightly more. After outside play, it tends to be more like two or three a day, if not three. A particularly good session can easily get us back to the days where we go overboard and one of us is more than a little sore - not that it stops the fun. I'm not sure if it's the taboo, the vivid memories, or just mixing up partners, but it's a wonderful side effect of lifestyle play. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
BillyandDebbie 301 Posted January 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, EastInWest said: For what it's worth, rapid tests are very accurate for positives, but probably about 66% accurate for negatives Plenty of info on rapid tests and the reliability of results, we know all the statistics and figured it was the only option we could use staying at our friends house. Also know that things change quickly and like an EKG the test is a screenshot of what is happening at a point in time. We limited our contact with others, didn’t isolate and our teen children were out and about. You are right that sex talk leads to sex. Leading up to our trips our talks lead to more sex. We have been working from home for two years which has led to midday play when our daughter is in school. If she were in school today I wouldn’t be answering your post right now. Have you played with friends you knew before playing. For me it made it easier and harder. I don’t know how I would react to a stranger with Debbie, and before last week I didn’t know how I would react to a friend. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
EastInWest 1,524 Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BillyandDebbie said: Have you played with friends you knew before playing. For me it made it easier and harder. I don’t know how I would react to a stranger with Debbie, and before last week I didn’t know how I would react to a friend. We have. When we started, I wanted to experiment with a male stranger for a third, because I figured it was easier that way. However, that was a stumbling block for Mrs. E. Back then, my specific fantasy was to watch her give head, and she needed to feel fairly strong trust and attraction to give oral. An invitation from a female friend to join her and her husband was what got her over the line to try it. We might have never started at all without that introduction but ended up doing full swap that same weekend after the soft swap went so well. The other husband was always attracted to her and the sex and communication is warm with all of us, although we haven't met up for a long time now and need to do that. Since then, we've included a number of strangers, although Mrs. E still has to be in just the right funny mood. It's also true that the female we play with was a friend - of Mrs. E's - first. She doesn't know that we play with others, and as she is a neighbor, we compartmentalize that information in case there's ever any drama. The chemistry of that relationship is a little different from the other couple, IMO. Mrs. E views it more as a loaner program with her cardio buddy, although it's been a long-running program now. We try to keep it a little distant and set strong boundaries that the sex is just an extension of working out and having cocktails together. They set all the social plans woman-to-woman. Edited January 4, 2022 by EastInWest Quote Share this post Link to post
BillyandDebbie 301 Posted January 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, EastInWest said: my specific fantasy was to watch her give head, That was my fantasy and my fear. I read on an older post about oral sex being more intimate and for some members a big no. I say all sex starts with oral, our friends both were the initiators and then things became mutual. Our first in dim light didn’t fully satisfy my fantasy, it was difficult to see the whole show. Second time was with light and much less anxiety. Is it a man thing or do women have that fantasy as well. We or me can’t see us with strangers or with neighbors. It would be fun to have the talk of who in our neighborhood we would want to be with, there are some friends who I find attractive. Quote Share this post Link to post
Anon321 524 Posted January 4, 2022 Hung out with 2 buddies over the holidays both fucked my GF both were vaccinated and now both have COVID. One has light symptoms and the other has none. Neither my GF or myself have any symptoms and we haven't gotten tested yet but we are also both vaccinated and boosted. I know we'll get some hate because of this but we're still back to normal among our groups of friends. We still haven't gone to the clubs and go to traditional bars and restaurants less frequently but we aren't shutting down our lives and are continuing to move forward. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
EastInWest 1,524 Posted January 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Anon321 said: I know we'll get some hate because of this but we're still back to normal among our groups of friends. We still haven't gone to the clubs and go to traditional bars and restaurants less frequently but we aren't shutting down our lives and are continuing to move forward. Yeah, we were kind of hesitant to go out for NYE at all, but decided that an incredibly early dinner with a table away from the crowd and then a private evening in a hotel were a low-risk activity. We don't want to get sick right now and are avoiding things like airports and busy bars, but a few friends is what it is. 28 minutes ago, BillyandDebbie said: That was my fantasy and my fear. I read on an older post about oral sex being more intimate and for some members a big no. I say all sex starts with oral, our friends both were the initiators and then things became mutual. Our first in dim light didn’t fully satisfy my fantasy, it was difficult to see the whole show. Second time was with light and much less anxiety. Is it a man thing or do women have that fantasy as well. We or me can’t see us with strangers or with neighbors. It would be fun to have the talk of who in our neighborhood we would want to be with, there are some friends who I find attractive. There's definitely a range of opinions there, some of them generational and some of them maybe cultural/geographic. She used to give handjobs very freely from her teenage years on but the idea of casual oral was strongly taboo, where sees it more as an opportunity to put on a show now. It's definitely a special situation with the neighbor and one that we debated heavily before we started. Unfortunately, neighbor's husband wasn't a great dude and he got put out on his ass. She went through a phase of trying things she felt like she'd missed. One of those things ended up being FMF and Mrs. E found out she could have fun with it. We had to have a couple of talks early on but she's been very cool about keeping it casual. I think, in general, trying to introduce vanilla people who are close to your life into the mix is a recipe for badness, but it's also a thing that happens. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Anon321 524 Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, EastInWest said: Yeah, we were kind of hesitant to go out for NYE at all, but decided that an incredibly early dinner with a table away from the crowd and then a private evening in a hotel were a low-risk activity. We don't want to get sick right now and are avoiding things like airports and busy bars, but a few friends is what it is. We are young and healthy so we are not as concerned about ourselves as we are spreading it to others. I also think that with the vaccines, the less lethal variant now being the dominant strain, we are just more comfortable going back to our normal lives and we are slowly getting there. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
BillyandDebbie 301 Posted January 5, 2022 Our daughter tested positive after returning from our friends over Christmas and their son did too. We were tested and not detected , our friends results are taking longer. Our daughter and their son spent the vacation running around with friends the whole week, then we found out she was more active with him, not just ice skating with friends. Debbie said her friend thinks she was in his room at night. Makes sense that she couldn’t stop talking about him the entire trip home. Mixed feelings as a father, I know how I was at that age. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
njbm 2,901 Posted January 6, 2022 My sister is over 60. Her boyfriend was smart enough to tell our elderly father where they stay for their assignations. Fathers don’t want to hear about their daughters getting banged at any age. It didn’t sit well with my father. I told him it’s her business, disregard it. Quote Share this post Link to post