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Hey Swingers, 

I really love reading your perception on swinging and having a open relationship.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post (it's my first post).

So, I am curious about the lifestyle and would like to explore it as a single man.

However, I've got this question on what do swinger couples look for in single men and how can I potentially come across one and experience the lifestyle. I'm thinking to go to some adult resorts but am open for tips and advices on how you would like a man to be with your wife or gf ?

Thank you. Keep it up folks. 

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My wife likes a nice smile , a good sense of humor and the ability to carry on a real conversation, a quick mind. From what I have seen striking good looks is not even a factor.

 

From my perspective it is very important that he treat her well, with respect. I want top see that they appreciate the gift they are receiving.

I want them to treat me with respect also.

 

 In our marriage she seeks my approval, although she really does not have to.

 

I gave her a perpetual green light from the beginning, but a single guy has to have me like him for her to consider anything, as there is the potential that I will end up spending some of the time reading, and she does not want to wonder how I am doing.

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Hey.

We play mostly with single men.

We choose them carefully.

We don’t like them to be of the hungry type. Being single should not mean you are frustrated, don’t get enough sex, etc.

We like them to have a universe. Not idiots with a nice body. 
I like them 30-55, and my husband not being Bi, I have the final say on the choice.

I like my men the way I like my food: spicy and with good taste :)

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I have a similar swing philosophy with Lips & Tongues. We did swing mostly with single men even if my SO is not bi. I chose our partner for 3somes coming from adult swing sites and my priority was chemistry (not just dick or bod pics); and that we have some deeper connections more than our common desire for play.  It is no different from finding a date with a single guy, for me.

 

Once I decided, I tell SO the profile if he is ok with him. He should be on board too because it is a group activity. We play together but after that, if he is respectful of boundaries, I can play with him alone if I wish to. The downside is there is always that possibility that the guy or myself can develop some attachments that is more than purely play.

 

I describe it as a "downside" because for the general swing community this is not encouraged, however, since my SO and I are poly too so I go with the flow, and let the single person decide how far he is willing to go considering my circumstances. This is how I met my BF, and consequently formed a Vee parallel poly relationship.

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11 hours ago, kittyswinger said:

there is always that possibility that the guy or myself can develop some attachments that is more than purely play.

For me, it's almost mandatory. And I know that this makes my husband extremely horny. We are always surfing at the edge of poly.

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It will vary wildly from couple to couple. Some will want an anonymous stunt cock for a one-and-done experience at a club. Some will want a boyfriend for her or  them up to and including a poly or throuple relationship. And, everything in between... Don't try to act like what you think a couple will want. Act yourself and your couple will find you. Be an interesting person and pay attention to the husband as well as the wife. If the husband isn't comfortable with you it's not going to happen.

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I can only speak from our experiences looking for "stunt cocks", mostly at hotel bars.

 

She is usually looking for someone who is well-groomed and in-shape, but not necessarily excessively fit. She doesn't like salesy types or people who try to play themselves up. (One of the people she's most repulsed by in the world in vanilla life, used to brag up being the decision-maker in firing people. In his mind, he was flashing status and power at people, which probably works with a lot of women. She can't stand that kind of thing.) Humble and respectful, decent sense of humor, something to talk about that shows they have interests and a life, not overly emotive or raunchy.

 

Usually, I will walk away and mingle while she waits for someone to approach her and chat her up. She'll introduce me once it's gotten warm enough that there's no ambiguity that she's flirting. When she introduces me to someone she's interested in, I'm usually watching for signals that they're uncomfortable, lying, or potentially clingy or otherwise weird. She is perhaps less sensitive to that kind of thing than I am, and also, I'm a guy. I know what it's like to be a guy. I think I can tell reasonably well if another guy understands that he's there for sport fucking and understands it's all in fun versus maybe being a jerk trying to finesse their way through something.

 

The last aspect is touch. Mrs. E is very physical and hands-on, she will already be touching and feeling and likes a sense that somebody is responsive and reciprocating appropriately. Hands on arms, hands on knees. We do this far from home and she will move to some more aggressive touching. One thing we've discovered through trial-and-error is that she may as well size-up their erection with a roaming hand before we go anywhere, because if he isn't erect at the bar, he's probably nervous and may struggle once we get to the room. If there's dancing, doubly so.

 

I guess the short version is someone who is confident enough to approach and send clear signals, in-shape and groomed enough that she can infer she'll be happy with his dick in her mouth, fun enough to be entertaining and flirtatious, but mature and restrained enough not to get weird.

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You will get different answers from different people, because just like people that don’t swing everyone has a variety of wants and needs!

 

One thing swingers don’t look for in a single guy is someone who is just in it, because they think it is an easy way to get some!  Women in the lifestyle are no easier to get with then women that are not.  In fact many of them are even more picky, because they already have an amazing man that already ticks all the boxes for them.

 

 We have found over the years that many men seem to think just, because women in the lifestyle are more open minded they will jump into bed with any guy that is available.  We have been as much as told so by some idiots. 
 

If a guy doesn’t have the respect and skill to pick up women in an ordinary situation he isn’t going to have anymore luck with swingers.  
 

Knowing how to talk to both the female and male, keeping yourself in good shape and presenting yourself well are all going to be important factors in whether you have success or not.  You will be up against huge odds as a single male in this lifestyle and will need to stand out from the pack.

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I never thought to find a single man but if I did it might be different from a man I would want to date if I were a single woman looking for a long term relationship. Any man I would meet, even if it was for a one nighter would need still need a personality. I realize personality is not going to be the first thing I will notice, personality takes at least five minutes to figure out. 
I’m not a fan of facial hair, that’s goes to superficial first impression. How he’s dressed, even if those clothes will come off, first impression. Clean smelling, not fruity or overwhelming cologne. Taller than me, trim, not overly muscular. I think I would want someone who appears younger than me, not necessarily way younger, could be older, just not look it. I don’t like men who dye their hair, unlike all women who use color. 
Most of what I would look for in a man is the same I would look for in a woman. I don’t have much experience in searching out sex partners, we were contacted by many men when we stated we weren’t searching for single men. We certainly didn’t need to see penis pictures as we didn’t need to see women’s spread pictures. 
With our limited swinging I think I could deal with any future play partner with a little more open mind and more confidence in getting what I would want, not what a partner wants to do. 

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For us it's very simple - good manners, proper hygiene, and mutual attraction.  In online only environments, for us at least, we've found that good manners eliminates almost all from consideration.  There are of course exceptions but they seem to be harder to find than the elusive unicorn.

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On 1/23/2022 at 6:04 AM, lcmim said:

My wife likes a nice smile , a good sense of humor and the ability to carry on a real conversation, a quick mind. From what I have seen striking good looks is not even a factor.

 

From my perspective it is very important that he treat her well, with respect. I want top see that they appreciate the gift they are receiving.

I want them to treat me with respect also.

 

 In our marriage she seeks my approval, although she really does not have to.

 

I gave her a perpetual green light from the beginning, but a single guy has to have me like him for her to consider anything, as there is the potential that I will end up spending some of the time reading, and she does not want to wonder how I am doing.

Thank you for sharing, I do keep it in mind to take care of these factors 

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On 1/23/2022 at 6:07 AM, Lips & Tongues said:

Hey.

We play mostly with single men.

We choose them carefully.

We don’t like them to be of the hungry type. Being single should not mean you are frustrated, don’t get enough sex, etc.

We like them to have a universe. Not idiots with a nice body. 
I like them 30-55, and my husband not being Bi, I have the final say on the choice.

I like my men the way I like my food: spicy and with good taste :)

I love the way you like you boys !! ❤️

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On 1/23/2022 at 7:08 AM, kittyswinger said:

I have a similar swing philosophy with Lips & Tongues. We did swing mostly with single men even if my SO is not bi. I chose our partner for 3somes coming from adult swing sites and my priority was chemistry (not just dick or bod pics); and that we have some deeper connections more than our common desire for play.  It is no different from finding a date with a single guy, for me.

 

Once I decided, I tell SO the profile if he is ok with him. He should be on board too because it is a group activity. We play together but after that, if he is respectful of boundaries, I can play with him alone if I wish to. The downside is there is always that possibility that the guy or myself can develop some attachments that is more than purely play.

 

I describe it as a "downside" because for the general swing community this is not encouraged, however, since my SO and I are poly too so I go with the flow, and let the single person decide how far he is willing to go considering my circumstances. This is how I met my BF, and consequently formed a Vee parallel poly relationship.

Got it, Thank you for sharing your experience. I myself am a poly too and personally feel that it's okay to develop some feelings or attachments if the couple is willing to take it forward. 

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On 1/23/2022 at 6:43 PM, Lips & Tongues said:

For me, it's almost mandatory. And I know that this makes my husband extremely horny. We are always surfing at the edge of poly.

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On 1/23/2022 at 10:08 PM, bbarnsworth said:

Welcome Iamthebull! You're in the right place!

 

There's a number of things to consider in getting into the lifestyle as a single man. The advice given above is all good. I might repeat some of it, but only to emphasize.

 

It's important to understand that as a single man you are part of a population in which there is very high availability, and nowhere near enough demand. I would guess that the majority of single men in the lifestyle likely never have an encounter. There's ways to make those odds better for you.

 

Understand your role; you are not a single man looking for a relationship. Some are ok with a polyamorous arrangement, but most are not. While it is ok to be affectionate, beginning to feel love/attachment is likely a non-starter unless the couple makes it clear that is ok. It's not that this is a cold and callous encounter. It's understanding the couple are in love with each other, and don't need another love based relationship. Couples can pick up a guy if they want by going to a nightclub. It isn't too hard to find a guy willing to do something like this. The problem is such guys have no idea about their role, and some will try to steal away the wife (as if they could). Couples come to swinger sites for single males because the single males understand their role.

 

Be a true gentleman. As noted above by others, it's very important to be respectful...and not just to the wife of a couple. The husband will be expecting respect as well. After all, you are having sex with his wife. If you're wonderful to her, but not to him, the evening will not last very long at all.

 

In creating a profile on SLS or whatever other platform, understand this is by far your best chance to make a good impression and make a connection with a couple. While you might be able to make connections with couples by reaching out to them directly through an email on such a platform, it's more likely they will contact you. Make your profile perfect. Don't use dick/body pics. You can say you can make them available on request. Show you have some class, some education. Don't have a two line profile. Be modest, but advertise yourself. It might be useful to explain why you are in the lifestyle as a single male, why you're not in a relationship. There's plenty of good reasons. Be honest. Whether you reach out to couples of they reach out to you, thoroughly read their profiles before sending/responding. Have photos on your profile. If you're not comfortable with face pics, have them in a private album you make available on request. Many couples won't engage with you if you don't have photos.

 

Pay for your membership on the site; most couples won't even look at non-paid profiles. As noted above, couples aren't in this for a relationship, so they need to see that a single man understands their role and understands the lifestyle. A big marker for that is whether they have paid for their membership.

 

Couples WILL have their "is he married?" radar on full blast. If couples sense the slightest reason to believe you are married and playing without permission, they will cut you off and never respond again. This is not a game to play. If you are NOT single, please...do us all a favor...go cheat on your wife somewhere other than the lifestyle. We are not in this for cheating. Everybody can cheat. A lot fewer are swingers, and want no part of any drama, either direct or indirect, involved in playing with a "single" male who isn't.

 

If you are invited to meet up with a couple, dress as you would going to a first date. Put your best foot forward. Get a hair cut. Shave upstairs and downstairs; most women don't want to bury their faces into a forest trying to give you head. Make sure your teeth are up to snuff (some women pay very close attention to that). Be courteous. Give the husband a good, relatively firm handshake, and look him in the eye. Give him as much attention as you give her. Don't oggle her; she is not a bag of female parts. She is a human, not a thing. She might be inviting you to be inside of her body. Engage her brain, not her body. If you have a drink as part of the meet up, have just one...and only one...drink. Don't push. If they want to invite you to bed, they will invite you. It's not your place to do so.

 

From the other side; you have to evaluate if a couple is right for you. Are they ready for this? Is the husband comfortable or is he nervous? Are they dressed poorly, bad hygiene, etc.? Are they drinking up a storm? Are they pigs at the table? If they're pigs at the table, you can imagine what it might be like in the bedroom.

 

Find out what their rules are, and let them know what rules you have (if any). Be absolutely respectful of their rules at all times.

 

If you make it as far as the bedroom, always assume condoms. Don't ask not to use them. If they don't want you to use a condom, then you are welcome not to. But, consider the risk of STDs. My wife and I don't allow a guy to not use condoms unless they are a long term regular. Most swinger couples will be the same; STDs are real. I would be very cautious or even end the evening if a couple offered to play without condoms. You should consider getting yourself tested for STDs and have a recent report available. I've never seen a couple or single male ask for it, but having it available and letting the couple know you do shows your maturity and respect in having had it done and available for them to see. You also might be surprised; people sometimes have STDs and have no idea they do.

 

If you have sex with her, don't cum quick unless you're very confident you can cum multiple times. But, first time jitters might make it difficult for you to be fully hard, much less cum. It's a long road to get to the point of having sex with her. If she's enjoying you, she won't want it to be over in 7 minutes. My wife and I (well, she) played with a guy once for six hours, with a couple of breaks in between. He didn't cum until the very end. That was a wonderful session for her. She came away slightly sore, but very satisfied. If you cum in a few minutes, you won't be invited back to play again. Think of what's in it for her, not in it for you. Don't ask for anal sex. Despite what porn tells you, most women don't like anal sex at all. If you like that, wait for her to ask for it. Give her oral sex; it's really about her, not you. Ask her what positions she likes, and do everything you can for her enjoyment...not yours.

 

Ok I've written a small book. If you have questions, let us know. Welcome!

Thank You Man, You covered almost everything. Its about the wife first. 

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On 1/24/2022 at 8:50 PM, EastInWest said:

I can only speak from our experiences looking for "stunt cocks", mostly at hotel bars.

 

She is usually looking for someone who is well-groomed and in-shape, but not necessarily excessively fit. She doesn't like salesy types or people who try to play themselves up. (One of the people she's most repulsed by in the world in vanilla life, used to brag up being the decision-maker in firing people. In his mind, he was flashing status and power at people, which probably works with a lot of women. She can't stand that kind of thing.) Humble and respectful, decent sense of humor, something to talk about that shows they have interests and a life, not overly emotive or raunchy.

 

Usually, I will walk away and mingle while she waits for someone to approach her and chat her up. She'll introduce me once it's gotten warm enough that there's no ambiguity that she's flirting. When she introduces me to someone she's interested in, I'm usually watching for signals that they're uncomfortable, lying, or potentially clingy or otherwise weird. She is perhaps less sensitive to that kind of thing than I am, and also, I'm a guy. I know what it's like to be a guy. I think I can tell reasonably well if another guy understands that he's there for sport fucking and understands it's all in fun versus maybe being a jerk trying to finesse their way through something.

 

The last aspect is touch. Mrs. E is very physical and hands-on, she will already be touching and feeling and likes a sense that somebody is responsive and reciprocating appropriately. Hands on arms, hands on knees. We do this far from home and she will move to some more aggressive touching. One thing we've discovered through trial-and-error is that she may as well size-up their erection with a roaming hand before we go anywhere, because if he isn't erect at the bar, he's probably nervous and may struggle once we get to the room. If there's dancing, doubly so.

 

I guess the short version is someone who is confident enough to approach and send clear signals, in-shape and groomed enough that she can infer she'll be happy with his dick in her mouth, fun enough to be entertaining and flirtatious, but mature and restrained enough not to get weird.

Thanks Man, It helps alot

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For me it is simply attraction and CHEMISTRY!  I enjoy sleeping with men I click with.  I enjoy a man with a strong flirt game cause arousal for a woman is mostly in our heads.  Adventurous is always a plus, and finally you must respect boundaries.  No catching feelings or trying to overstep a strictly sexual relationship.  

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11 hours ago, Aphroditee said:

For me it is simply attraction and CHEMISTRY!  I enjoy sleeping with men I click with.  I enjoy a man with a strong flirt game cause arousal for a woman is mostly in our heads.  Adventurous is always a plus, and finally you must respect boundaries.  No catching feelings or trying to overstep a strictly sexual relationship.  

Gotcha, Thank you for sharing your experience.

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Really great points here. I agree with most of them. There has to be some attraction; nice smile, well groomed, smell nice, and dressed presentably (collared shirts, no ripped/stained pants, wife beaters, track suits, crooked hats). Confidence, not cockiness. Be yourself. Do tell me what you think I want to hear. Can spot that phony crap a mile away. We know your objective is to get in my pants, don’t be obvious, desperate, or pushy about it. 
 

Know how to talk to me and hubby and above all know your place. We are partners in crime, you are our accomplice. 
 

for us, an ID/Handle “I am the bull,” is an instant turn off but that’s not the case with everyone. Self described bull, dom, cuck play…not for us. Looks good in porn, makes a great fantasy/fetish. 
 

As far as our sex life and interest,  our tastes lean toward the vanilla, other than the fact that we engage in those activities with multiple partners. 

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Lol... I find the question to be somewhat humorous.

 

What do couples look for in a single man?

 

Um, the answer, of course, is a varied as the couples involved. The notion that there is some universal description of what "all couples" are looking for in a single man is rather unrealistic.

 

At best, we could offer some guideposts that mostly surround your behavior, dress, personal hygiene, etc. Not coincidentally, this is the same advice we'd offer any man looking to meet up with a single (vanilla or otherwise) or open couple:

 

  • Expect rejection, lots and lots of it (if this thought bothers you, quit while you're ahead)
  • Be a gentleman at all times in your words, deeds, manners, and demeanor
  • Be punctual
  • Be genuine
  • Show interest in her/the couple and don't talk about yourself too much
  • Be sparkling clean, closely shaved, with minty fresh breath, and use cologne sparingly
  • Dress smartly for the occasion, slightly above what might be expected
  • Nobody likes a boozer or drug user (if you do partake in libations, do so in extreme moderation)
  • Have no expectation of sex (it probably won't happen, especially on the first meet up)
  • Always remember the biggest sexual organ is the brain; make her laugh and help her relax, and you're halfway there
  • Give chemistry time to develop and don't be in a hurry
  • The couple always has veto power and they don't owe you an explanation
  • Get tested for the full spectrum of STDs/STIs and be prepared to produce the results when requested
  • Should you be lucky enough to be invited to have sex, always assume a condom is required and bring your own
  • You may have some performance issues (yes, even the Bull God) so bring along a couple of doses of sildenafil (Viagra)
  • Pick up after yourself
  • Don't overstay your welcome
  • A follow-up phone call 48-72 hours later is fine, but don't act like a desperate hound or creep (texting is not acceptable)
  • Never kiss and tell (there is no Expiration Date on your obligation to remain discreet.)

 

Best of luck to you.

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On 1/23/2022 at 10:08 AM, bbarnsworth said:

 

 I would guess that the majority of single men in the lifestyle likely never have an encounter. There's ways to make those odds better for you.

 

 

 

I played as a solo guy for a number of years,  I had decent success, playing at on premises clubs and house parties.  Using my memories ,fingers and toes I came up with 12 home runs and 8 strike outs.  I had a girlfriend that I swung with and didn't include those encounters, those were a shoe in!

 

My success rate was because I dressed nicely, showered, had nice hair, trimmed beard, not drunk, etc.  I wasn't afraid to approach a couple, starting the conversation with the Mr. typically, about mundane things such as jobs, vacations, dogs, etc.   Have a sense of humor.  If you can get the couple laughing, you're 3/4 there.

 

I hung out with a local Vegas couple at one of the clubs there, just talking about this and that, watching some of the action going on for about two hours.  I was thinking about leaving, thinking that it wasn't going anywhere and it was getting late.  It couldn't have hurt to ask, so I asked the gentleman if they would like to play and he said that it was up to her.  She was non committal so I said that I would give  her a massage, there being a massage table in one of the rooms.  I like to think of myself as an unlicensed massage therapist, so I gave it my best for 20-30 minutes.  It was after she flipped onto her back that I got to work on her nether region and she asked if I wanted to fuck.  I said "More that anything in the whole world."  Afterward she said, "You're pretty good with that thing."  She was the hottest girl in the place that night.

 

The point being is that if you approach a couple looking for sex you will probably strike out.  If you are just looking to make friends and have a good time you will have much better success.

 

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