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Now knowing about the ammonia/hot tub, this post probably won't apply here. But it might help anyone else getting into a similar situation.. Right after my second son was born, I got some kind of infection. The smell was AWFUL! I never got used to it, neither did hubby. Maybe because it didn't smell like hot restaurant bread? LOL.. anyways... it was so strong at times that I could smell it through my clothes. I bathed 3-4 times a day, went back to the doc 3 times... nothing. Finally, I switched docs and this one listened to me, smelled me I'm sure, and treated me. But it was months later. Months now, no oral.. waaaa it was horrible! Anyway, our experience is that a very BAD, odd smell is likely infectious in nature, and if you are one to go bareback, might want to pack condoms in the "emergency bag" lol. And not just for hubby... what she has, her hubby has! If it isn't that kind of smell, or urine, then you can probably bet it has to do with diet or her cycle. Other causes can be medications and illnesses. Just as diet changes the taste of sperm, it changes a woman's smell. I can eat seafood weeks on end, but eat shrimp? oooo bad smell lol... Turnip greens.. yuck.... It's not too many foods, mind you, but there are a few. Then there is her cycle.. the closer she is to her period, the stronger the smell. Right after her period, all roses lol... well close! Oh and as for telling them.. I understand what the above links are saying but I don't think it applies here. I don't smell my pus all day long lol, to be desensitized to it. If it is a little "odorous" for the most part it hits me when I sit down to pea. So I have a good many hours of the day I don't smell it, then a nice kick in the nose for a few minutes every several hours. Can't miss it. So if it is a long-standing problem, she knows. And, she should have told you ahead of time - so on that note, I say it isn't worth the stress of telling her. If it's not a long-standing problem, it likely will disappear in a few days.. and why embarass her? Hope that helped some

Thanks for bringing this topic back. As the new year begins, we're thinking more along the lines of finding that "ideal" couple. We sat down together and thought this through. 1. All 4 should be attracted (no taking one for the team), but no MM. Bi-fem is NOT important. 2. Fun, outgoing and light-hearted 3. Flirty and confident 4. Able to travel (clubs, resorts, events, new and exciting destinations) 5. Curvy female 6. Intelligent conversationalists 7. Willing to explore fantasies 8. They have a strong, loving relationship like us 9. Not overly possessive 10. Not heavy drinkers or illegal drug users around us (what they do on their own time is their business) 11. Willing to vocalize their likes/dislikes (not assuming you already know) Wishing everyone luck in finding their ideal playmates this year! Mr. & Mrs. D

Greetings SnozzberryBlu, My husband and I also found polyamory with another couple without having looked for it. I'd be curious to find out how it happened to you, if you'd like to share your story. Also, like you, I hung around on this board a lot before it happened, and then drifted away a bit afterwards... there are a lot of ambivalent feelings toward polyamory on the part of some (not all) people who swing. My husband and I still swing outside of our quad, as do our SO's, just not much at the moment. I still very much enjoy reading SB and sometimes post. We feel a little bit of separation mentally now between us and most swingers, like we're different somehow, but we still love to swing when we meet people who excite us.

I guess we were "poly friendly" from the scratch, and way long before even thinking of swinging. We've allways think the question "who do you love the most, pinapple or light bomb?" doesn't make sense, that a ruler isn't enough to measure love, and we've been very respectfull for each other feelings, and to respect and embrance the love each one of us may feel towards anyone else. As for me, this mean, I am happy by enjoying what my wife have to offer to me, and I don't need to compare it with what she may be oferring to other people. At least for as long as it fulfills my needs, and since it does, well... everithing is fine. We've always said "ok, if you have a crush on someone and want to get laid, go ahead, just, avoid telling me something you know could hurt me... because if you do, the more likely is that you wouldn't be doing that TO YOU, but TO ME". In the other hand, and even when having this permission granted, I didn't mess around, nor she did (as far as I know). We supposed (perhpas from the culture and education) that KNOWING about this would be likely to hurt us. When we started swinging, we realized that knowing didn't hurt, at all. We felt happy to actually know the other was enjoying it and being pleased. In the other hand, the idea of avoiding developing feelings while swinging, even when sound as an advice to avoid unwanted drama, didn't properly fit in our previous mindset (nor we feel affraid of such a drama, meaning we knew anything would be able to damage our bond). Then we swung with this woman, she tured out to be a great friend and we started hanging up togheter, or even doing things between any two of us without a third one present (including having sex), we all felt ok, we talked a lot about this and we started openly extressing our feelings without any deal, nor any drama.

Sure, for some reason our friends know exactly when we are having sex, so they call us then. Heck, I have even talked on the phone during sex...at work...while talking on the phone to a customer.

LOL! No, but I was literally giving birth to our oldest son and Jay's dumb ass answered his cell phone. And I'm talking I'm pushing. LOL. My head spun 360 degrees and I think bile shot across the room...poor Jay LOL, he literally threw the cell phone across the room LOL! I still don't know who the hell called lol.