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I totally agree with Thrax, this is should include couples as well. One thing that struck me is that as a couple, we do have rules -- but, so does our single male. I'm sure, or at least I'm hoping it's been mentioned before -- I think it needs to be a mutual agreement, just like it would as if we played with a couple. I don't know, we've only had one single male that we play with so we can be quite ignorant on this subject. We've always treated each other with a mutual respect. We're not so vain and arrogant to think this is just about us. We, as a couple need to think of his needs, too. I guess what I'm trying to say is that he's not there to just be our slave and do what we want. We want to make sure he's happy as well and that we've filled his wants and needs at the same time.

Help me understand this. I was a business major. My brain hurt even before I got to any of the philosophy stuff. If all ethics are situational, then there are married individuals (or people in "committed" relationships) who can disregard their commitments of sexual monogamy to their respective spouses/SOs, and they still can be considered as NOT being cheaters in the world of swinging? Please explain. Thanks.

I think cheating in this lifestyle is just as painful as in monogamous relationships. Cheating isn't really about sex so much as it is about betrayal. When a couple is swinging together, it is (or should be) done with the consent and knowledge of the other partner. When one of the partners goes beyond that trust and cheats, it is a betrayal.

One person's bad experiences or intolerances do not make a phenomenon. Personally, and whilst I'm not single, I'll be damned if I'm going to generalise and put in some petty self-opinionated black and white view about single men like some do in posts here. Yes some men are "bastards" just as some women and couples are "bastards". This site, unless I'm mistaken or there is false advertising is for human swingers of all persuasions not just an elite club for married couples and married men who believe they own their wives (permission is two way in a democracy fellas). The advice regarding single males on this site is arguably rather biased if not discriminatory even if it was designed (no doubt based on experience) to try to educate and guide some single men about basic human etiquette and dignity. I think that some married men and women also need education on basic human rights it would seem and not just re single men.