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Our situations had some similarities to yours. We also had a good sex life and my wife also enjoyed amateur group porn. When the idea first came up we looked at is as possibly going to an on-premise swing club that had a "group room" and just going in and watching and playing with each other and not have sex with others. That may be worth discussing. Also we were both very conservative and traditional and the thing that we maintained from our first discussions untill present day is that swinging is just a facet of our love and sex life and when we play with others it is still about our shared experience as a couple. In other words it is not about having sex with other people, we are making love together as a couple, it just happens that there are other people involved. The other people are not the objective. They are just providing additional excitment and stimulation to our sexual experience. If you can make the approach that it is about YOUR experience as a couple rather than just screwing other people it may make a difference. But keep in mind that the vast majority of the world's population is vanilla by choice. Most people choose to be monogamous and really are only interested in traditional marriage and relationships.

I'd just up and tell him you and the hunny have been thinking about having a menage a trois and ask him if he would be interested in joining you. Be honest and keep it simple. People just waste to much perfectly good play time speculating about what others will or wiil not think or will or will not do when a simple question would let you know.

Our first couple of mfm's were with a friend for us it didn't work out to well but this was also due to we were in our late twentys and he was like 22 and well he took it a little to serious and we had to stop. Since then we do it with guys we meet looking for the same

There are many accounts of 3somes with a friend, ex-lover, etc. I'm 'the other guy'. I've been invited by friends actually, but have always said no. I just think that there are too many other variables and potential complications with friends, whereas with strangers, it is pretty one dimensional.

Our doc is fully aware of our kinky activities. I think it is important for the doc to know that information and he always asks if he should include an STD workup when he orders other lab work. We generally alternate and skip STD checks if we haven't engaged in any risky behavior since the previous checks. But the first question should have just stopped after lifestyle. Whether or not he supports it is quite irrelevant. We share pleasures and indulge in fairly moderate BDSM. The staff knows too, we frequently get side questions about different sexual practices. They also always save some Viagra swag for us. But even given all that, the pet name they have for us is 'the lovebirds'. Since we are going on 31 years, I think we must be doing something right.

For me it very simple - anything in the lifestyle that gives me a headache....... The Other Mrs. Menage