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Cheaters gravitate to swingers ad sites! Think about it, what a great place to look for people looking for sex. Problem is these cheaters don't know what swinging really is and they don't care. They also know there will always be other cheaters like themselves looking for the same outlet. Add to that, some swingers will overlook the fact that they are cheating and will play with them anyway. All of these facts make the situation for those of us swingers who want nothing to do with cheaters all the more challenging because we've always got to be on the lookout for any signs that a profile we may view is a cheater's profile. I've got tons of profiles that I've made a note: SUSPECTED CHEATER LM

Also, as a guy who has been in a DP, I would like to add that it seems that a DP works best after one, or both guys have already come once or twice before entering the woman for the DP. Due to the close proximity of all the thrusting and the friction involved, it might be better if the guys had already come. It will make for a longer and more enjoyable experience. I would highly recommend trying this!

Having once been the guy on the bottom and inside the vagina, while she received another guy anally, I can tell you the feelings and the sensations of all that's happening inside of her are incredible. And that's just for you! The woman was excited and willing, though inexperienced, so we all three took it very slowly and everyone agreed that we'd all stop if anyone got to a place where they weren't comfortable. As she climbed on top and I entered her, I could tell she was excited but a little tense about what came next. Fortunately, the other guy was supremely thoughtful and gentle, allowing her to set the pace, the depth and the movements involving his penetration. With a slow and gentle and delicate start, she gradually became more and more accustomed to it and soon she was undulating and gyrating and bobbing up and down and all around... As she got to the stage of wildly moaning excitement, all of us were thrusting and that's when it got truly interesting inside of her as things began to slam and bam off of each other... There were times it felt as if we were actually touching one another's pecker-heads together, but it was just the deal that space inside of her pelvis was at a premium and things sure went bump in the night... Much to all three of our delights, it just happened to work out that the erotic tide swept all of us into orgasm within a few seconds of each other, probably one going in causing the other two to follow suit... I'm sure it doesn't always happen that way, but it was almost as if it were choreographed that time. Haven't done anything even remotely similar since then, but if you have a good friend and a great girl, don't miss this experience.

We second (or third or fourth) what the others said. If there a rule that either one of you wants in effect make it a rule. Do not try to negotiate the rules that you have agreed to and DO NOT ever under any circumstances break a rule that has been made regardless of how drunk or horny you may be at the time. Even if your partner breaks his/her own rule you should still not break the rule before discussing it. In the begining we had so many rules that we actually wrote them down and discussed them. Over the years the rules have diminished to very few and are treated as guidelines more than rules. No cross gender kissing was a big rule until about a year ago. Angel felt that a deep passionate kiss was too intimate and was uncomfortable with it. I on the other hand didn't care but followed it anyway. Last year we were with a new couple and at one point I was on the floor with the wife while Angel was on the couch with the boyfriend sitting on his lap and kissing while she slowly rocked back and forth. Since I love watching her kiss I was not upset but I didn't break the rule. We discussed it on the ride home and she admitted that it just seemed the thing to do right then and since she knew I would not be upset she went with the feeling. She also thanked me for keeping the rules in place even when she didn't. The no kissing rule is now history. No anal was also a rule that is not defunct. If you stay within your set boundries in the begining you will develop a sense of trust and probably find that as you go along some of the more "extreme" rules will slowly go away.

Newbie, we certainly understand the frustration. Like walking into the world's biggest candy store and being told you can have anything you like...as long as it fits in this thimble. Or like putting training wheels on a Harley FatBoy. lol.. I can just hear you now: "Aww, man this sucks!" But would you rather walk out of the candy store having not tried even that thimbleful? First encounters need to be somewhat brief and limited; it limits the number of ways we can hurt each other as two completely unique individuals explore a completely foreign concept. Neither of you knows how you (or, more scary, the other) will react "under fire". Setting rules and sticking by them is important in setting the stage. When your first encounter happens, what you wife will be watching for is just how closely you listened to her, and how much you respect respect her fears and feelings. Yeah, I know you respect her, but she's going to want to know just where her feelings lie on your priority scale. If you let the little head think for you (and believe me, he'll be at his most persuasive), he'll tell you that your sexual satisfaction is more important than some stupid rule that just doesn't make sense anyway! What I'm saying here is, while you might personally think the rule is stupid, why you are still going to follow it is not! Sit down again with your wife and tell her that, while you will still respect any boundary she imposes, you'd like to understand why this act or that act is so uncomfortable for her? You might be even more surprised at her reasons. But don't try to persuade her to drop a boudary. Err on the side of caution and play conservatively. There are likely some boundaries that are going to be absolute for her, but also some that are more of a grey area. Find out what those are. Is it kissing? Oral sex? No touching/caressing the face? No eye contact? Another thing you could also try is setting up a signal system (kinda like baseball) while you're in the middle of things. If either one of you changes your mind about something, you can signal the other "No, don't do that (even if I said it was ok before)." or "Yes, go ahead and try that." Just don't make the signal thing too complex or a) you'll forget the signals, or b) your partners will wonder if you rolled in a patch of poison ivy with all the nose-scratching and ear-tugging etc. Well, we hope your first play encounter is fun and relaxed. Don't let the idea of what you can't do interfere with the fun of what you can. Just remember to remember each other's feelings while you're experiencing your own and you'll be all right. Please keep us updated about your first encounter, too! We're all interested to see how things went

You are going to find 1000's of cheaters, both male and female on the Internet. Many that are single will list their self as couple because many people block singles and they always think they are the one to change a couples mind. You will find many guys that are married, listed as a couple or single but are married guys cheating, you will find some women that do the same thing. Cheating is not swinging and way to many people don't seem to understand that. A cheater is NOT a swinger no matter how they try to explain it away. If someone has their self listed as a couple but is really single, they are a lier and no use dealing with them either. Too many real, great people in this lifestyle to deal with the Trolls of life.